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Thread started 07/26/06 12:19pm

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Andrea Yates - Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

http://www.cnn.com/2006/L...index.html

What a pile of s---!

I'm usually torn on the death penalty(because of race & class inequities), but not when it comes to scum who murder children. Some humans don't belong on the planet - Andrea Yates is one of them. If there is a hell, I say send her there.

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Reply #1 posted 07/26/06 2:29pm

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Actually, I remember thinking back when it first happened that if this bitch ain't insane, nobody is.

I mean, most women who kill their kids have some kind of motive. Susan Smith killed her kids for the love of a man. Darlie Routier killed her kids for money. And in both cases, each woman tried to cover up their crime. Andrea Yates drowned her kids, for reasons I can't begin to fathom. She had a history of depression. She made no attempt to cover up the crime.

That, for me, is the very definition of insanity.

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Reply #2 posted 07/26/06 8:38pm

Emotions

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I question her craziness

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Reply #3 posted 07/26/06 9:19pm

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Emotions said:

I question her craziness


That's what I'm saying. Just read the testimonies of Dr. Welner & Dr. Dietz. She waited until her husband left for work to kill her kids, covered them with a sheet and called 911? Come on.

Her ex-husband is just as nuts as she is. Dude's a f-n robot.

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Reply #4 posted 07/27/06 1:37am

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that is tragic sad

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And stifle me?
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Reply #5 posted 07/27/06 6:08am

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I am disgusted that this woman has been able to basically get up and walk free.. She is going to be deemed "insane" and skip going to prison but spend time in a psych ward until the court "deems fit for her to leave"..

BULL SHIT! Bottom line, if she is sick and "insane", then she should be there for life, NO RELEASE! And what about her disgusting husband. If he knew she was sick and depressed or whatever for an extended of period of time and i assume he could SEE she wasn't herself since they lived together then why in gods name did he ever leave her alone with all those kids and moreover, never get her help. He basically went about his merry way and then these children are put through this crap!

I was sick when i initially read that story and still feel the same way every time i hear her name. It is a tragedy!

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Reply #6 posted 07/27/06 8:13am

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Revoke her right to life. Show her the same mercy she showed her children.

Put her husband in jail for life.

Thank god anyone is allowed to have children but you need a license to run a fishing boat.



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Reply #7 posted 07/27/06 10:19am

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shouldn't the death penalty -- if used at all -- be used on someone with no hope of rehabilitation? why are people so blood thirsty? it doesn't bring anyone back and it doesn't change anything.

i rarely believe in the insanity defense...the bottom line is if you hid it, you knew what you did was wrong and insanity is out the window. this woman's case seemed different. i'd hate to see someone who has an illness (and is no doubt suffering emotionally because she killed her own children due to that illness) be killed because of that illness.

a psych ward is the right place for her. and when she's healthy enough to live in society i wish her the best. some people are a little loose and, one day, they just go crazy. people aren't dogs, you don't just kill them for getting ill.

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Reply #8 posted 07/27/06 10:25am

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sallysassalot said:

shouldn't the death penalty -- if used at all -- be used on someone with no hope of rehabilitation? why are people so blood thirsty? it doesn't bring anyone back and it doesn't change anything.

i rarely believe in the insanity defense...the bottom line is if you hid it, you knew what you did was wrong and insanity is out the window. this woman's case seemed different. i'd hate to see someone who has an illness (and is no doubt suffering emotionally because she killed her own children due to that illness) be killed because of that illness.

a psych ward is the right place for her. and when she's healthy enough to live in society i wish her the best. some people are a little loose and, one day, they just go crazy. people aren't dogs, you don't just kill them for getting ill.


And ten years from now when she out and "healthy" and she is married with children again and kills her children again what will be your defense for keeping her on this planet?

And that is not hypothetical, it happens everyday, because we protect the criminals rights above the victims in this society.

Life is precious and when you abuse the lives of innocents so brutally you have revoked your right to life.

Saying, "sorry, I wasn't feeling well then but I'm better now." Is bullshit.

"What a lovely fat beat with a zompige baslijn"
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Reply #9 posted 07/27/06 10:28am

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Her husband did have his mother watching here, but since she was "doing better" the mother-in-law left her alone for an hour. She was just biding her time so she could get the right moment to kill them. The husband is an accomplice and should have been charged as well. He is not innocent. I would never leave my children with the other parent, if I thought it was unsafe. They probably thought they could pray the problem away

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Reply #10 posted 07/27/06 10:35am

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Emotions said:

Her husband did have his mother watching here, but since she was "doing better" the mother-in-law left her alone for an hour. She was just biding her time so she could get the right moment to kill them. The husband is an accomplice and should have been charged as well. He is not innocent. I would never leave my children with the other parent, if I thought it was unsafe. They probably thought they could pray the problem away


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Send the pig to jail for life. He had a responsibility to protect those children. The only part he seemed interested in was making them.

"What a lovely fat beat with a zompige baslijn"
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Reply #11 posted 07/27/06 10:36am

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roanmairin said:

sallysassalot said:

shouldn't the death penalty -- if used at all -- be used on someone with no hope of rehabilitation? why are people so blood thirsty? it doesn't bring anyone back and it doesn't change anything.

i rarely believe in the insanity defense...the bottom line is if you hid it, you knew what you did was wrong and insanity is out the window. this woman's case seemed different. i'd hate to see someone who has an illness (and is no doubt suffering emotionally because she killed her own children due to that illness) be killed because of that illness.

a psych ward is the right place for her. and when she's healthy enough to live in society i wish her the best. some people are a little loose and, one day, they just go crazy. people aren't dogs, you don't just kill them for getting ill.


And ten years from now when she out and "healthy" and she is married with children again and kills her children again what will be your defense for keeping her on this planet?

And that is not hypothetical, it happens everyday, because we protect the criminals rights above the victims in this society.

Life is precious and when you abuse the lives of innocents so brutally you have revoked your right to life.

Saying, "sorry, I wasn't feeling well then but I'm better now." Is bullshit.

the repeat offender is usually someone who went into prison, got no rehabilitative therapy, and was released. the percentage of repeat offenses made by individuals who went through the restorative justice process is very low.

and nobody is saying to let her walk away or forget about the victims or say, "sorry, it won't happen again" and end it there. nobody's running out to join a psych ward cheerleading team, ya know. she's got a lot of work ahead of her but the numbers favor that she won't harm anyone again.

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Reply #12 posted 07/27/06 10:39am

sallysassalot

roanmairin said:

Emotions said:

Her husband did have his mother watching here, but since she was "doing better" the mother-in-law left her alone for an hour. She was just biding her time so she could get the right moment to kill them. The husband is an accomplice and should have been charged as well. He is not innocent. I would never leave my children with the other parent, if I thought it was unsafe. They probably thought they could pray the problem away


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Send the pig to jail for life. He had a responsibility to protect those children. The only part he seemed interested in was making them.

how have you come to this conclusion? and if that's the case...if you're right...i guess we should put every parent in jail who makes a bad judgment about their kids. i don't know about you but my parents NEVER made a mistake that could have put me in harm's way without even realizing it. NEVER. they were perfect. rolleyes

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Reply #13 posted 07/27/06 10:42am

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sallysassalot said:


the repeat offender is usually someone who went into prison, got no rehabilitative therapy, and was released. the percentage of repeat offenses made by individuals who went through the restorative justice process is very low.

and nobody is saying to let her walk away or forget about the victims or say, "sorry, it won't happen again" and end it there. nobody's running out to join a psych ward cheerleading team, ya know. she's got a lot of work ahead of her but the numbers favor that she won't harm anyone again.


Wholly shit!

sallysassalot said:

the numbers favor that she won't harm anyone again.


Why take that chance? Are you betting on her not recommiting? That is some cold shit.

What does she have to offer us other than stories of how she murdered her five helpless babies in cold blood?

How bad of a crime does someone have to commit too become to dangeruos to risk having them around anymore?

Where is the fear and compassion for the children she could harm in the future?

At the very least she should be sterilized.

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Reply #14 posted 07/27/06 11:32am

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Emotions said:

Her husband did have his mother watching here, but since she was "doing better" the mother-in-law left her alone for an hour. She was just biding her time so she could get the right moment to kill them. The husband is an accomplice and should have been charged as well. He is not innocent. I would never leave my children with the other parent, if I thought it was unsafe. They probably thought they could pray the problem away



Exactly my point.. if she was biding her time, she KNEW what she was planning and waiting to do.. That isn't insanity, that is pre-meditated murder.. and the bitch should rot in jail for life..Let someone stick her head in a pool of water for a few hours.. Show the bitch how it feels!

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