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Thread started 10/25/05 1:05pm

shausler

the difference between CNN and FoxNews

CNN:

U.S. death toll in Iraq hits 2,000




FoxNews:

Military: 2,000 Dead an Artificial Mark

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Reply #1 posted 10/25/05 1:18pm

SassyBritches

the difference between the two is nothing more than the demographic that is each network's core audience. they each package their news in a way that will get a specific viewership and response.

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Reply #2 posted 10/25/05 1:38pm

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SassyBritches said:

the difference between the two is nothing more than the demographic that is each network's core audience. they each package their news in a way that will get a specific viewership and response.



but one is simply stating the fact while the other is voicing an opinion...

isnt that a huge difference from a news perspective?

Maybe Fox should call themselves The Fox Commentary Station or something.

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Reply #3 posted 10/25/05 1:42pm

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fair and balanced
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Reply #4 posted 10/25/05 3:21pm

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I agree with sassyBritches.

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Reply #5 posted 10/25/05 3:24pm

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missmad said:

I agree with sassyBritches.


But he just stated a truism. What are their respective demographics and what is the nature of their "packaging."

This could be a potentially interesting discussion.

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Reply #6 posted 10/25/05 4:21pm

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shausler said:

CNN:

U.S. death toll in Iraq hits 2,000




FoxNews:

Military: 2,000 Dead an Artificial Mark


Gotta love that defense!

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Reply #7 posted 10/25/05 4:32pm

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sosgemini said:

SassyBritches said:

the difference between the two is nothing more than the demographic that is each network's core audience. they each package their news in a way that will get a specific viewership and response.



but one is simply stating the fact while the other is voicing an opinion...

isnt that a huge difference from a news perspective?

Maybe Fox should call themselves The Fox Commentary Station or something.



Actually, if that were an actual headline or story, then Fox News is quoting the military ....however I can find no such story on Fox News.com...

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Reply #8 posted 10/26/05 5:05am

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This is a good website that monitors FOX

http://www.newshounds.us/

"Free the West Memphis three"

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Reply #9 posted 10/26/05 5:33am

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CNN = JOURNALISM

FOX NEWS = PROPAGANDA

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Reply #10 posted 10/26/05 5:43am

Heiress

I think Fox News you kind of have to take with a grain of salt.

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Reply #11 posted 10/26/05 6:18am

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Heiress said:

I think Fox News you kind of have to take with a grain of salt.



Exactly.This newschannel is all about "spin",trying to downplay the fact that 2000 of our soldiers have died in this war.They never give people the real facts.

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Reply #12 posted 10/26/05 12:51pm

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Heiress said:

I think Fox News you kind of have to take with a grain of salt.


Exactly what you want from a cable news network

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Reply #13 posted 10/26/05 1:06pm

Universaluv

foxnews is also carrying a story with the headline "U.S. Death in Iraq Toll Climbs Above 2,000"

http://www.foxnews.com/st...30,00.html

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Reply #14 posted 10/26/05 1:17pm

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Universaluv said:

foxnews is also carrying a story with the headline "U.S. Death in Iraq Toll Climbs Above 2,000"

http://www.foxnews.com/st...30,00.html



then they just put that up, because an hour ago they said on air that the death toll "might be near 2000, according to some reports."

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Reply #15 posted 10/26/05 1:24pm

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Fox News is right. It is an artificial mark becuase it only counts service members...it does not count US contractors killed in Iraq. neutral

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Reply #16 posted 10/26/05 1:46pm

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Stax said:

Fox News is right. It is an artificial mark becuase it only counts service members...it does not count US contractors killed in Iraq. neutral



or the number of soliders wounded for life

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Reply #17 posted 10/26/05 1:49pm

shausler

ehuffnsd said:

Stax said:

Fox News is right. It is an artificial mark becuase it only counts service members...it does not count US contractors killed in Iraq. neutral



or the number of soliders wounded for life



its just horendous

truly an asault to my every good sence

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Reply #18 posted 10/26/05 2:17pm

Universaluv

bluesbaby said:

Universaluv said:

foxnews is also carrying a story with the headline "U.S. Death in Iraq Toll Climbs Above 2,000"

http://www.foxnews.com/st...30,00.html



then they just put that up, because an hour ago they said on air that the death toll "might be near 2000, according to some reports."


They've also got this story

"U.S. Military Deaths Reach 2,000 in Iraq "
http://www.foxnews.com/st...67,00.html

and this one

"U.S. Death Toll Hits 2,000"
http://www.foxnews.com/st...34,00.html

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Reply #19 posted 10/26/05 2:27pm

Flashpointe

FoxNews:

Military: 2,000 Dead an Artificial Mark


The mark of the beast for Fox peeps.

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Reply #20 posted 10/26/05 2:39pm

uPtoWnNY

PBS News >>>>> the rest. No joking around, no spin-doctoring, just straight-up news.

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Reply #21 posted 10/27/05 6:08am

Abrazo

Universaluv said:

bluesbaby said:




then they just put that up, because an hour ago they said on air that the death toll "might be near 2000, according to some reports."


They've also got this story

"U.S. Military Deaths Reach 2,000 in Iraq "
http://www.foxnews.com/st...67,00.html

and this one

"U.S. Death Toll Hits 2,000"
http://www.foxnews.com/st...34,00.html


But all those stories are AP copied articles, which btw is good Fox also posts those.

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Reply #22 posted 10/27/05 6:11am

Abrazo

The difference is FOX is owned by rupert Murdoch who is a very staunchy Bush/war supporter.

As for "CNN = journalism"... well, let me just say, not always. And let's not forget that also CNN didn't raise one word of doubt in the run up to the war, nor for a long time thereafter. Only now they are beginning to become a little tiny bit more critical of the Bush adm, which in my view still doesn't make them any more than a White house lapdog that is a little pissed off. But CNN a watchdog like they are supposed to be? No way jose.

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Reply #23 posted 10/27/05 9:17am

Universaluv

Abrazo said:

Universaluv said:



They've also got this story

"U.S. Military Deaths Reach 2,000 in Iraq "
http://www.foxnews.com/st...67,00.html

and this one

"U.S. Death Toll Hits 2,000"
http://www.foxnews.com/st...34,00.html


But all those stories are AP copied articles, which btw is good Fox also posts those.


And the"Artificial Mark" story is an AP copied story also. So...?

http://www.foxnews.com/st...17,00.html

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Reply #24 posted 10/27/05 10:07am

Abrazo

Universaluv said:

Abrazo said:



But all those stories are AP copied articles, which btw is good Fox also posts those.


And the"Artificial Mark" story is an AP copied story also. So...?

http://www.foxnews.com/st...17,00.html




So that is also good and the 'opinion' in that article is 'just' the opnion of the military. It's still typical tho' for them to make that the first headline when the news hit.

Oh and btw FOX still sucks for their ridiculous support of the war and blackballing of anything and everyone 'liberal'. They are not independend, they are in the business of government propoganda and money making off illegal wars they helped convince the public should be fought with their extreme bias and lies.

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Reply #25 posted 10/27/05 11:04am

Universaluv

Abrazo said:

Universaluv said:



And the"Artificial Mark" story is an AP copied story also. So...?

http://www.foxnews.com/st...17,00.html




So that is also good and the 'opinion' in that article is 'just' the opnion of the military. It's still typical tho' for them to make that the first headline when the news hit.


Actually, yesterday it was the second headline, after "Death Toll Reaches 2000".

I'm all for criticisizing Fox news, I usually can't stand them. There just doesn't seem to be a reason to do so here.

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Reply #26 posted 10/27/05 11:41am

Elephants

Might be a chance to open things up here. Basically, what do we want from our news? Don't we want the necessary information that allows us to make informed decisions about our own lives? Shouldn't journalists be demanding that people in power explain themselves? Why can't our news programmes explain to us how things work? What I'm saying is that neither Fox NOR CNN do any of this stuff. Consequently, our masters continue to lie to us to get us to support their empire-building while the news channels report all the gossip and market related events that are important to the rich folks. And as I'm typing this on a computer, that includes me.

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Reply #27 posted 10/27/05 11:42am

Abrazo

Universaluv said:

Abrazo said:





So that is also good and the 'opinion' in that article is 'just' the opnion of the military. It's still typical tho' for them to make that the first headline when the news hit.


Actually, yesterday it was the second headline, after "Death Toll Reaches 2000".

I'm all for criticisizing Fox news, I usually can't stand them. There just doesn't seem to be a reason to do so here.


I agree.

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Reply #28 posted 10/27/05 11:46am

Abrazo

Elephants said:

Might be a chance to open things up here.
With the emphasis on MIGHT lol

Basically, what do we want from our news? Don't we want the necessary information that allows us to make informed decisions about our own lives?
Apparantly not many, judging by the masses of Americans who only watch FOXnews for their info.

Shouldn't journalists be demanding that people in power explain themselves?
Yes, definitly so. They should be the governments watchdog. If they are intentionally refusing, like they have and many still are, they are bad journalists, no matter the circumstances, war or not.

Why can't our news programmes explain to us how things work?
Because that would make people see the truth?

What I'm saying is that neither Fox NOR CNN do any of this stuff.
Agreed.

Consequently, our masters continue to lie to us to get us to support their empire-building while the news channels report all the gossip and market related events that are important to the rich folks. And as I'm typing this on a computer, that includes me.
Sad isn't it? i don't think you can call yourself a functioning democracy with such a press.

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Reply #29 posted 10/28/05 9:55am

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Sassy Britches is correct. They both pander to an audience, though CNN will never get a medal for being that much better than Fox News. When I was in undergrad we called CNN, "half the news all the time." That network is as big of a joke as Fox News.

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