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I think I just crapped my pants..Did Bush Actually say I'll take responsibility for the Gov't slow response?!

I know it's a small caveat on his part...tiny...miniscule. I am still in shock that he is admitting responsibility.


Bush Takes Responsibility for Blunders
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer

Tuesday, September 13, 2005


(09-13) 09:46 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) --


President Bush said Tuesday that "I take responsibility" for failures in dealing with Hurricane Katrina and said the disaster raised broader questions about the government's ability to respond to natural disasters as well as terror attacks.


"Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government," Bush said at joint White House news conference with the president of Iraq.


"To the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," Bush said.


The president was asked whether people should be worried about the government's ability to handle another terrorist attack given failures in responding to Katrina.


"Are we capable of dealing with a severe attack? That's a very important question and it's in the national interest that we find out what went on so we can better respond," Bush replied.


He said he wanted to know both what went wrong and what went right.


As for blunders in the federal response, "I'm not going to defend the process going in," Bush said. "I am going to defend the people saving lives."


He praised relief workers at all levels. "I want people in America to understand how hard people worked to save lives down there," he said.


Bush spoke after R. David Paulison, the new acting director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, pledged to intensify efforts to find more permanent housing for the tens of thousands of Hurricane Katrina survivors now in shelters.


It was the closest Bush has come to publicly finding fault with any federal officials involved in the hurricane response, which has been widely criticized as disjointed and slow. Some federal officials have sought to fault state and local officials for being unprepared to cope with the disaster.


Bush planned to address the nation Thursday evening from Louisiana, where he will be monitoring recovery efforts, the White House announced earlier Tuesday.


Paulison, in his first public comments since taking the job on Monday, told reporters: "We're going to get those people out of the shelters, and we're going to move and get them the help they need."


Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff introduced Paulison as the Bush administration tried to deflect criticism for the sluggish initial federal response to the hurricane and its disastrous aftermath.


Chertoff said that while cleanup, relief and reconstruction from Katrina is now the government's top priority, the administration would not let down its guard on other potential dangers.


"The world is not going to stop moving because we are very focused on Katrina," Chertoff said.


Paulison, named to the post on Monday, said he was busy "getting brought up to speed."


He replaced Michael Brown, who resigned on Monday, three days after being removed from being the top onsite federal official in charge of the government's response.


Paulison said Bush called him Monday night and "thanked me for coming on board."


Bush promised that he would have "the full support of the federal government," Paulison said.


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Reply #1 posted 09/13/05 11:56am

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He must be running scared to actually admit failure or that he was wrong. He has never done any such thing in the last 5 years. Also, if you look at the fact that he put Cheney on the ground, these guys need PR help.

Katrina simply popped the boil that had been festering in this country for years nod

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Reply #2 posted 09/13/05 12:17pm

Flashpointe

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

He must be running scared to actually admit failure or that he was wrong. He has never done any such thing in the last 5 years. Also, if you look at the fact that he put Cheney on the ground, these guys need PR help.

Katrina simply popped the boil that had been festering in this country for years nod


What sucks though is that the boil has caused infection in other parts of America's body now, and has spread to other places as an infectious transmittable disease.

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Reply #3 posted 09/13/05 12:17pm

Flashpointe

Even though it popped, now we have to focus on healing everything else.

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Reply #4 posted 09/13/05 12:19pm

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He's just trying to save his approval ratings rolleyes If he had an honest bone in his body he could have never uttered the words, "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job!" neutral

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Reply #5 posted 09/13/05 12:21pm

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PR ploy!


it took his approval rating to drop below 40% for him to admit failure.

it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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Reply #6 posted 09/13/05 12:36pm

SassyBritches

many people f'd up on this; it goes far beyond this administration. i'm glad bush is finally taking responsibility for his involvement (or lack thereof) in the mess. that said, there is no "acceptable" course of action for the president to take. if he didn't take responsibility people would say he is misplacing and skirting blame. now that he has stepped up and taken responsibility people will say/are saying its for PR and approval reasons.

truthfully, there are many people responsible for what happened with this hurricane. the past three administrations knew what could (and eventually would) happen with a major hurricane yet nothing was done. the governor of the state failed her citizens in numerous ways. the mayor has certainly done well placing blame while managing to ignore anything he could have done (differently). there are too many people that could have been involved in a more efficient way to place 100% of the responsibility on the president. i think he did the right thing, however, by putting an end to the very public finger pointing game that has been going on.

unfortunately it is too little, too late. the damage has been done and, quite frankly, i think it is irreversible. this country will feel the effects of "katrina" for quite some time now.

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Reply #7 posted 09/13/05 12:38pm

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CalhounSq said:

He's just trying to save his approval ratings rolleyes If he had an honest bone in his body he could have never uttered the words, "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job!" neutral
This is it in a nutshell.

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Reply #8 posted 09/13/05 12:41pm

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SassyBritches said:

many people f'd up on this; it goes far beyond this administration. i'm glad bush is finally taking responsibility for his involvement (or lack thereof) in the mess. that said, there is no "acceptable" course of action for the president to take. if he didn't take responsibility people would say he is misplacing and skirting blame. now that he has stepped up and taken responsibility people will say/are saying its for PR and approval reasons.

truthfully, there are many people responsible for what happened with this hurricane. the past three administrations knew what could (and eventually would) happen with a major hurricane yet nothing was done. the governor of the state failed her citizens in numerous ways. the mayor has certainly done well placing blame while managing to ignore anything he could have done (differently). there are too many people that could have been involved in a more efficient way to place 100% of the responsibility on the president. i think he did the right thing, however, by putting an end to the very public finger pointing game that has been going on.

unfortunately it is too little, too late. the damage has been done and, quite frankly, i think it is irreversible. this country will feel the effects of "katrina" for quite some time now.


I don't think it was a lose lose at all. had the president shown true leadership instead of lounging on his ranch, cutting birthday cakes and strumming guitars, even I would have given him the praise that he would have deserved had he handled this properly. This was a critical moment for not only the gulf coast but the nation and we deserved to have our President engaged completely and fully from the outset and we did not get that. Let people pay the price all up and down from the city on up, but if we are going to decry local and state officials for their failures and hold them accountable, absolutely we should do the same for the president. And I know you're not sayin we shouldn't hold Bushie accountable so don't get you jock strap in a snit ok? wink

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Reply #9 posted 09/13/05 12:45pm

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Holy crap, talk about "damned if you do..."

I thought you guys wanted him to step up and claim some responsibility. Now you think it's all about approval ratings? Do you want better late than never or not?

confuse

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Reply #10 posted 09/13/05 12:52pm

Rhondab

1313 said:

Holy crap, talk about "damned if you do..."

I thought you guys wanted him to step up and claim some responsibility. Now you think it's all about approval ratings? Do you want better late than never or not?

confuse




yeah...but aren't you the one saying Bush isn't to blame....confuse

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Reply #11 posted 09/13/05 1:02pm

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Rhondab said:

1313 said:

Holy crap, talk about "damned if you do..."

I thought you guys wanted him to step up and claim some responsibility. Now you think it's all about approval ratings? Do you want better late than never or not?

confuse




yeah...but aren't you the one saying Bush isn't to blame....confuse



Did I ever say Bush was clean in all this? I always said he could have done more, but was not to blame for every damn thing.

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Reply #12 posted 09/13/05 1:04pm

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This is ingenious, IMO. Bush FINALLY has found himself in a situation that can't be spun, couched, equivocated or hidden by smoke-in-mirror concocted nonissues because we saw the entire thing played out before our eyes.

The pressure would have mounted to a critical breaking point had he not taken responsibility, and simply by offering a "my bad," he's now taken enough steam out of the pot to shut people up -- or at least reinvigorate an all-forgiving support base that was ready to turn on his ass.

Brilliant!

...Some advisor seriously deserves a pay raise and a blowjob for suggesting this one.

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Reply #13 posted 09/13/05 1:07pm

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Lammastide said:

This is ingenious, IMO. Bush FINALLY has found himself in a situation that can't be spun, couched, equivocated or hidden by smoke-in-mirror concocted nonissues because we saw the entire thing played out before our eyes.

The pressure would have mounted to a critical breaking point had he not taken responsibility, and simply by offering a "my bad," he's now taken enough steam out of the pot to shut people up -- or at least reinvigorate an all-forgiving support base that was ready to turn on his ass.

Brilliant!

...Some advisor seriously deserves a pay raise and a blowjob for suggesting this one.


You really think this will take the heat off of him? lol

The left will never let that happen.

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Reply #14 posted 09/13/05 1:09pm

Flashpointe

1313 said:

Lammastide said:

This is ingenious, IMO. Bush FINALLY has found himself in a situation that can't be spun, couched, equivocated or hidden by smoke-in-mirror concocted nonissues because we saw the entire thing played out before our eyes.

The pressure would have mounted to a critical breaking point had he not taken responsibility, and simply by offering a "my bad," he's now taken enough steam out of the pot to shut people up -- or at least reinvigorate an all-forgiving support base that was ready to turn on his ass.

Brilliant!

...Some advisor seriously deserves a pay raise and a blowjob for suggesting this one.


You really think this will take the heat off of him? lol

The left will never let that happen.


Nope! We sure won't! Bush needs to resign.

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Reply #15 posted 09/13/05 1:12pm

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Flashpointe said:

1313 said:



You really think this will take the heat off of him? lol

The left will never let that happen.


Nope! We sure won't! Bush needs to resign.


Resign for what?

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Reply #16 posted 09/13/05 1:16pm

BananaCologne

I can see where this is heading already

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Reply #17 posted 09/13/05 1:16pm

Flashpointe

1313 said:

Flashpointe said:



Nope! We sure won't! Bush needs to resign.


Resign for what?


Read my thesis.

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Reply #18 posted 09/13/05 1:17pm

Rhondab

1313 said:

Lammastide said:

This is ingenious, IMO. Bush FINALLY has found himself in a situation that can't be spun, couched, equivocated or hidden by smoke-in-mirror concocted nonissues because we saw the entire thing played out before our eyes.

The pressure would have mounted to a critical breaking point had he not taken responsibility, and simply by offering a "my bad," he's now taken enough steam out of the pot to shut people up -- or at least reinvigorate an all-forgiving support base that was ready to turn on his ass.

Brilliant!

...Some advisor seriously deserves a pay raise and a blowjob for suggesting this one.


You really think this will take the heat off of him? lol

The left will never let that happen.



you are really stuck.....everything is either left or right with you huh...lawdy....

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Reply #19 posted 09/13/05 1:20pm

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Rhondab said:

1313 said:



You really think this will take the heat off of him? lol

The left will never let that happen.



you are really stuck.....everything is either left or right with you huh...lawdy....


Because that's how it is. How much balance do you see on this issue?

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Reply #20 posted 09/13/05 1:24pm

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1313 said:

Rhondab said:




you are really stuck.....everything is either left or right with you huh...lawdy....


Because that's how it is. How much balance do you see on this issue?


If you had a show dealing with the holocaust, you don't give airtime to folks who believe it never happened to show that you are "fair and balanced". That is lunacy. At the end of the day when the local and state officials are not either prepared to handle such a disaster or unable to, either through incompetence or the sheer size of the disaster, the federal government is supposed to be there to protect American citizens. Wasn't that one of Bush's main talking points in the last election, that he could protect Americans better than Kerry? Well here was a grand opportunity to do that on American soil, not the middle east, and he failed. It doesn't get much simpler than that nod

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Reply #21 posted 09/13/05 1:25pm

SassyBritches

1313 said:

Lammastide said:

This is ingenious, IMO. Bush FINALLY has found himself in a situation that can't be spun, couched, equivocated or hidden by smoke-in-mirror concocted nonissues because we saw the entire thing played out before our eyes.

The pressure would have mounted to a critical breaking point had he not taken responsibility, and simply by offering a "my bad," he's now taken enough steam out of the pot to shut people up -- or at least reinvigorate an all-forgiving support base that was ready to turn on his ass.

Brilliant!

...Some advisor seriously deserves a pay raise and a blowjob for suggesting this one.


You really think this will take the heat off of him? lol

The left will never let that happen.


forget "the left," my friend, many on the right--including myself--are more than very disgusted with his response timing. i think what bothers so many of us on "the right" is the fact that a "christian" let this go on for so long. don't get me wrong, many of us in the know have understood from day one that bush is only a christian of convenience but, nonetheless, he occasionally does right on the issues that matter most to us.

he did not "do right" at all this time. he has finally done what everyone has been expecting of him, however, and i am glad he has. surely it is in part due to pressure--large part, no doubt--from the public but i don't doubt that he HAS to know he f'd up. those who have been calling on him to step up need not chime in with the "oh, its all for publicity" stuff, though, because it just proves the claims of many of those on "the right" that those on "the left" can't be pleased at all.

sadly, so much of this misery is now going to be exploited to benefit those with a political agenda rather than those who truly need help.

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Reply #22 posted 09/13/05 1:28pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

1313 said:



Because that's how it is. How much balance do you see on this issue?


If you had a show dealing with the holocaust, you don't give airtime to folks who believe it never happened to show that you are "fair and balanced". That is lunacy. At the end of the day when the local and state officials are not either prepared to handle such a disaster or unable to, either through incompetence or the sheer size of the disaster, the federal government is supposed to be there to protect American citizens. Wasn't that one of Bush's main talking points in the last election, that he could protect Americans better than Kerry? Well here was a grand opportunity to do that on American soil, not the middle east, and he failed. It doesn't get much simpler than that nod


Wow, nice to know everyone one else who failed gets off and moves on in life.

By the way, your holocuast comparison is B-A-N-A-N-A-S

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Rhondab

1313 said:

Rhondab said:




you are really stuck.....everything is either left or right with you huh...lawdy....


Because that's how it is. How much balance do you see on this issue?




i'm not talking about what I see, but how you are.....


everything in life isn't black or white....left or right....at least I think I'm a little more evolved than to think just in terms of party lines.

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Reply #24 posted 09/13/05 1:29pm

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SassyBritches said:


sadly, so much of this misery is now going to be exploited to benefit those with a political agenda rather than those who truly need help.


Damn right.

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Reply #25 posted 09/13/05 1:31pm

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1313 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



If you had a show dealing with the holocaust, you don't give airtime to folks who believe it never happened to show that you are "fair and balanced". That is lunacy. At the end of the day when the local and state officials are not either prepared to handle such a disaster or unable to, either through incompetence or the sheer size of the disaster, the federal government is supposed to be there to protect American citizens. Wasn't that one of Bush's main talking points in the last election, that he could protect Americans better than Kerry? Well here was a grand opportunity to do that on American soil, not the middle east, and he failed. It doesn't get much simpler than that nod


Wow, nice to know everyone one else who failed gets off and moves on in life.

By the way, your holocuast comparison is B-A-N-A-N-A-S

If you've paid any attention to what I've been saying you will know I've said that local and state officials should be held accountable for their failings. But Bush is the commander in chief and when the rubber hits the road, we have to know he is set to protect our citizens through action not just phoney rhetoric about protecting Americans from terrorists.

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Reply #26 posted 09/13/05 1:31pm

1313

Rhondab said:

1313 said:



Because that's how it is. How much balance do you see on this issue?




i'm not talking about what I see, but how you are.....


everything in life isn't black or white....left or right....at least I think I'm a little more evolved than to think just in terms of party lines.


I'm not saying everything is black and white, only that in the public eye, there is an unbelievable amount of unfairness and game playing going on, and most of the unfairness is coming from the left wing Bush haters.

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1313 said:

Rhondab said:





i'm not talking about what I see, but how you are.....


everything in life isn't black or white....left or right....at least I think I'm a little more evolved than to think just in terms of party lines.


I'm not saying everything is black and white, only that in the public eye, there is an unbelievable amount of unfairness and game playing going on, and most of the unfairness is coming from the left wing Bush haters.


hah! Sure hah!

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Reply #28 posted 09/13/05 1:33pm

SassyBritches

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

1313 said:



Wow, nice to know everyone one else who failed gets off and moves on in life.

By the way, your holocuast comparison is B-A-N-A-N-A-S

If you've paid any attention to what I've been saying you will know I've said that local and state officials should be held accountable for their failings. But Bush is the commander in chief and when the rubber hits the road, we have to know he is set to protect our citizens through action not just phoney rhetoric about protecting Americans from terrorists.

i agree with this. its like any other managerial position. you answer to the boss for your employees f ups. WE are his boss. he needed to take responsibility. on the other hand, however, the mayor and governor are also hired by the people and they, too, need to be stepping up right alongside the commander in chief.

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Reply #29 posted 09/13/05 1:34pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

1313 said:



Wow, nice to know everyone one else who failed gets off and moves on in life.

By the way, your holocuast comparison is B-A-N-A-N-A-S

If you've paid any attention to what I've been saying you will know I've said that local and state officials should be held accountable for their failings. But Bush is the commander in chief and when the rubber hits the road, we have to know he is set to protect our citizens through action not just phoney rhetoric about protecting Americans from terrorists.



I know you've distributed the blame, and I think that's cool. But just because Bush is on top of the food chain, that doesn't mean those under him should get a free pass to get off.

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