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"An Open Letter to Europe" "An Open Letter to Europe"
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I love Europe and I love many Europeans, but I couldn't give a fuck what they think about us. We're the most powerful and the most supportive country in the world. And after 9/11 we have an outlook on life that many people will never understand. Maybe when Europe contributes as much to to the world as we do or fights terrorism as much as we do, then maybe I'll consider giving a rats ass what they think.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: I love Europe and I love many Europeans, but I couldn't give a fuck what they think about us. We're the most powerful and the most supportive country in the world. And after 9/11 we have an outlook on life that many people will never understand. Maybe when Europe contributes as much to to the world as we do or fights terrorism as much as we do, then maybe I'll consider giving a rats ass what they think.
Good article by the way. It's a disgusting and hypocritical article that illustrates everything that is wrong with the US these days. Europe contributes far more to the world than the US does. And while the US 'fights' against terrorism a lot more, it could be argued that Europe 'wins' against terrorism a lot more. "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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SpcMs said: It's a disgusting and hypocritical article that illustrates everything that is wrong with the US these days. No, it illustrates the fact that many Europeans are a bunch of judgemental, pompous assholes who talk a lot of shit. Europe contributes far more to the world than the US does. Maybe combined it might seem that way, but no other country in the world gives as much as we do. And while the US 'fights' against terrorism a lot more, it could be argued that Europe 'wins' against terrorism a lot more. Appeasing terrorists is not winning. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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Ok, i cant resist, for the fun of it, the most ridiculous quotes:
many of the Muslims on your own continent...make one nasty crack about them and you're likely to get six bullets pumped into your head and a knife plunged into your chest
religion should remain at the center of life
One of the best for a Bushie: that the rule of law cannot be set aside when it becomes inconvenient.
We recognize that other people see things differently, and we are tolerant of their views.
the beliefs that powered Western Europe - you - from the Middle Ages into the Renaissance, on to the Enlightenment, and forward into the modern world. They are the beliefs that made Europe itself the glory of Western civilization
Euhm...what is it he wants? Religion at the center of life, or Enlightenment? You have ceased to be a Judeo-Christian culture, and have become instead a secular culture. And a secular culture quickly goes from being "un-religious" to anti-religious. Indeed, your hostility to the basic concepts of Judaism and Christianity has literally been written into your new European Union constitution, despite the Pope's heroic efforts to the contrary.
"Your rate of marriage is at an all-time low, and the number of abortions in Europe is at an all-time high. Indeed, your birth rates are so far below replacement levels that in 30 years or so there will be 70 million fewer Europeans alive than are alive today. Europe is literally dying. And of the children you do manage to produce, all too few will be raised in stable, two-parent households.
Oh common, some random numbers: Divorce rates (1999, per 1000): Europe: 2 US: 4 Teen pregnancies (per 1000) Europe: <20 US: 48 Abortion rates (number of abortion per woman): Europe: 0.5 US: 0.69 Incarceration rate (per 100K): Europe: 60 US: 666 Homicide rate (per 100K): Europe: 2.5 US: 8.2 "Your economy is stagnant because your government regulators make it just about impossible for your entrepreneurs to succeed - except by fleeing to the United States, where we welcome them and celebrate their success.
yeah, your economy is doing just great lately. Not to mention Europe's social security and general well-being index beats that of the US "And your armed forces are a joke. With the notable exception of Great Britain, you no longer have the military strength to defend yourselves. Alas, you no longer have the will to defend yourselves.
American military has been pretty funny themselves, from Iraq to their Star Wars failures. "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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EvilWhiteMale said: SpcMs said: It's a disgusting and hypocritical article that illustrates everything that is wrong with the US these days. No, it illustrates the fact that many Europeans are a bunch of judgemental, pompous assholes who talk a lot of shit. >>>While the jackass who wrote this article is not?? 
Europe contributes far more to the world than the US does. Maybe combined it might seem that way, but no other country in the world gives as much as we do. >>>Duh. And you have 100000 times more abortions and poor people and illiterates and murderers than Luxembourg. How silly do you have to be not to compare things per capita or per BNP? And while the US 'fights' against terrorism a lot more, it could be argued that Europe 'wins' against terrorism a lot more. Appeasing terrorists is not winning. >>>It beats breeding them while you throw your army and funds down some irrelevant and bottomless pit, imho. "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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EvilWhiteMale said: I love Europe and I love many Europeans, but I couldn't give a fuck what they think about us. We're the most powerful and the most supportive country in the world. And after 9/11 we have an outlook on life that many people will never understand. Maybe when Europe contributes as much to to the world as we do or fights terrorism as much as we do, then maybe I'll consider giving a rats ass what they think.
Good article by the way. Great to see you back EWM! "Always blessings, never losses......"
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Sowhat said: "An Open Letter to Europe"
Written by Herbert E. Meyer on November 11, 2004 "Hi. Are you nuts? "Forgive me for being so blunt, but your reaction to our reelection of President Bush has been so outrageous that I'm wondering if you have quite literally lost your minds. One of Britain's largest newspapers ran a headline asking "How Can 59 Million Americans Be So Dumb?", and commentators in France all seemed to use the same word - bizarre -- to explain the election's outcome to their readers. In Germany the editors of Die Tageszeitung responded to our vote by writing that "Bush belongs at a war tribunal - not in the White House." And on a London radio talk show last week one Jeremy Hardy described our President and those of us who voted for him as "stupid, crazy, ignorant, bellicose Christian fundamentalists." "Of course, you are entitled to whatever views about us that you care to hold. (And lucky for you we Americans aren't like so many of the Muslims on your own continent; as the late Dutch film maker Theo van Gogh just discovered, make one nasty crack about them and you're likely to get six bullets pumped into your head and a knife plunged into your chest). But before you write us off as just a bunch of sweaty, hairy-chested, Bible-thumping morons who are more likely to break their fast by dipping a Krispy Kreme into a diet cola than a biscotti into an espresso - and who inexplicably have won more Nobel prizes than all other countries combined, host 25 or 30 of the world's finest universities and five or six of the world's best symphonies, produce wines that win prizes at your own tasting competitions, have built the world's most vibrant economy, are the world's only military superpower and, so to speak in our spare time, have landed on the moon and sent our robots to Mars -- may I suggest you stop frothing at the mouth long enough to consider just what are these ideas we hold that you find so silly and repugnant? "We believe that church and state should be separate, but that religion should remain at the center of life. We are a Judeo-Christian culture, which means we consider those ten things on a tablet to be commandments, not suggestions. We believe that individuals are more important than groups, that families are more important than governments, that children should be raised by their parents rather than by the State, and that marriage should take place only between a man and a woman. We believe that rights must be balanced by responsibilities, that personal freedom is a privilege we must be careful not to abuse, and that the rule of law cannot be set aside when it becomes inconvenient. We believe in economic liberty, and in the right of purposeful and industrious entrepreneurs to run their businesses – and thus create jobs - with a minimum of government interference. We recognize that other people see things differently, and we are tolerant of their views. But we believe that our country is worth defending, and if anyone decides that killing us is an okay thing to do we will go after them with everything we've got. "If these beliefs seem strange to you, they shouldn't. For these are precisely the beliefs that powered Western Europe—you—from the Middle Ages into the Renaissance, on to the Enlightenment, and forward into the modern world. They are the beliefs that made Europe itself the glory of Western civilization and - not coincidentally - ignited the greatest outpouring of art, literature, music and scientific discovery the world has ever known including Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Shakespeare, Bach, Isaac Newton and Descartes. "It is your abandonment of these beliefs that has created the gap between Europe and the United States. You have ceased to be a Judeo-Christian culture, and have become instead a secular culture. And a secular culture quickly goes from being "un-religious" to anti-religious. Indeed, your hostility to the basic concepts of Judaism and Christianity has literally been written into your new European Union constitution, despite the Pope's heroic efforts to the contrary. "Your rate of marriage is at an all-time low, and the number of abortions in Europe is at an all-time high. Indeed, your birth rates are so far below replacement levels that in 30 years or so there will be 70 million fewer Europeans alive than are alive today. Europe is literally dying. And of the children you do manage to produce, all too few will be raised in stable, two-parent households. "Your economy is stagnant because your government regulators make it just about impossible for your entrepreneurs to succeed - except by fleeing to the United States, where we welcome them and celebrate their success. "And your armed forces are a joke. With the notable exception of Great Britain, you no longer have the military strength to defend yourselves. Alas, you no longer have the will to defend yourselves. "What worries me even more than all this is your willful blindness. You refuse to see that it is you, not we Americans, who have abandoned Western Civilization. It's worrisome because, to tell you the truth, we need each other. Western Civilization today is under siege, from radical Islam on the outside and from our own selfish hedonism within. It's going to take all of our effort, our talent, our creativity and, above all, our will to pull through. So take a good, hard look at yourselves and see what your own future will be if you don't change course. And please, stop sneering at America long enough to understand it. After all, Western Civilization was your gift to us, and you ought to be proud of what we Americans have made of it." Speaking as a Brit, I think this article makes quite a few fair and valid points. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. 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Shapeshifter said: Speaking as a Brit, I think this article makes quite a few fair and valid points.
Such as? "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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EvilWhiteMale said:[quote]I love Europe and I love many Europeans, but I couldn't give a fuck what they think about us.
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SpcMs said: Shapeshifter said: Speaking as a Brit, I think this article makes quite a few fair and valid points.
Such as? Let's start here: "Your rate of marriage is at an all-time low, and the number of abortions in Europe is at an all-time high. Indeed, your birth rates are so far below replacement levels that in 30 years or so there will be 70 million fewer Europeans alive than are alive today. Europe is literally dying. And of the children you do manage to produce, all too few will be raised in stable, two-parent households. "Your economy is stagnant because your government regulators make it just about impossible for your entrepreneurs to succeed - except by fleeing to the United States, where we welcome them and celebrate their success. "And your armed forces are a joke. With the notable exception of Great Britain, you no longer have the military strength to defend yourselves. Alas, you no longer have the will to defend yourselves". [Edited 1/5/05 11:17am] There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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SpcMs said: Shapeshifter said: Speaking as a Brit, I think this article makes quite a few fair and valid points.
Such as? And I liked the gist of this too: "What worries me even more than all this is your willful blindness. You refuse to see that it is you, not we Americans, who have abandoned Western Civilization. It's worrisome because, to tell you the truth, we need each other. Western Civilization today is under siege, from radical Islam on the outside and from our own selfish hedonism within. It's going to take all of our effort, our talent, our creativity and, above all, our will to pull through. So take a good, hard look at yourselves and see what your own future will be if you don't change course. And please, stop sneering at America long enough to understand it. After all, Western Civilization was your gift to us, and you ought to be proud of what we Americans have made of it." There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Shapeshifter said: Sowhat said: "An Open Letter to Europe"
Written by Herbert E. Meyer on November 11, 2004 "Hi. Are you nuts? "Forgive me for being so blunt, but your reaction to our reelection of President Bush has been so outrageous that I'm wondering if you have quite literally lost your minds. One of Britain's largest newspapers ran a headline asking "How Can 59 Million Americans Be So Dumb?", and commentators in France all seemed to use the same word - bizarre -- to explain the election's outcome to their readers. In Germany the editors of Die Tageszeitung responded to our vote by writing that "Bush belongs at a war tribunal - not in the White House." And on a London radio talk show last week one Jeremy Hardy described our President and those of us who voted for him as "stupid, crazy, ignorant, bellicose Christian fundamentalists." "Of course, you are entitled to whatever views about us that you care to hold. (And lucky for you we Americans aren't like so many of the Muslims on your own continent; as the late Dutch film maker Theo van Gogh just discovered, make one nasty crack about them and you're likely to get six bullets pumped into your head and a knife plunged into your chest). But before you write us off as just a bunch of sweaty, hairy-chested, Bible-thumping morons who are more likely to break their fast by dipping a Krispy Kreme into a diet cola than a biscotti into an espresso - and who inexplicably have won more Nobel prizes than all other countries combined, host 25 or 30 of the world's finest universities and five or six of the world's best symphonies, produce wines that win prizes at your own tasting competitions, have built the world's most vibrant economy, are the world's only military superpower and, so to speak in our spare time, have landed on the moon and sent our robots to Mars -- may I suggest you stop frothing at the mouth long enough to consider just what are these ideas we hold that you find so silly and repugnant? "We believe that church and state should be separate, but that religion should remain at the center of life. We are a Judeo-Christian culture, which means we consider those ten things on a tablet to be commandments, not suggestions. We believe that individuals are more important than groups, that families are more important than governments, that children should be raised by their parents rather than by the State, and that marriage should take place only between a man and a woman. We believe that rights must be balanced by responsibilities, that personal freedom is a privilege we must be careful not to abuse, and that the rule of law cannot be set aside when it becomes inconvenient. We believe in economic liberty, and in the right of purposeful and industrious entrepreneurs to run their businesses – and thus create jobs - with a minimum of government interference. We recognize that other people see things differently, and we are tolerant of their views. But we believe that our country is worth defending, and if anyone decides that killing us is an okay thing to do we will go after them with everything we've got. "If these beliefs seem strange to you, they shouldn't. For these are precisely the beliefs that powered Western Europe—you—from the Middle Ages into the Renaissance, on to the Enlightenment, and forward into the modern world. They are the beliefs that made Europe itself the glory of Western civilization and - not coincidentally - ignited the greatest outpouring of art, literature, music and scientific discovery the world has ever known including Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Shakespeare, Bach, Isaac Newton and Descartes. "It is your abandonment of these beliefs that has created the gap between Europe and the United States. You have ceased to be a Judeo-Christian culture, and have become instead a secular culture. And a secular culture quickly goes from being "un-religious" to anti-religious. Indeed, your hostility to the basic concepts of Judaism and Christianity has literally been written into your new European Union constitution, despite the Pope's heroic efforts to the contrary. "Your rate of marriage is at an all-time low, and the number of abortions in Europe is at an all-time high. Indeed, your birth rates are so far below replacement levels that in 30 years or so there will be 70 million fewer Europeans alive than are alive today. Europe is literally dying. And of the children you do manage to produce, all too few will be raised in stable, two-parent households. "Your economy is stagnant because your government regulators make it just about impossible for your entrepreneurs to succeed - except by fleeing to the United States, where we welcome them and celebrate their success. "And your armed forces are a joke. With the notable exception of Great Britain, you no longer have the military strength to defend yourselves. Alas, you no longer have the will to defend yourselves. "What worries me even more than all this is your willful blindness. You refuse to see that it is you, not we Americans, who have abandoned Western Civilization. It's worrisome because, to tell you the truth, we need each other. Western Civilization today is under siege, from radical Islam on the outside and from our own selfish hedonism within. It's going to take all of our effort, our talent, our creativity and, above all, our will to pull through. So take a good, hard look at yourselves and see what your own future will be if you don't change course. And please, stop sneering at America long enough to understand it. After all, Western Civilization was your gift to us, and you ought to be proud of what we Americans have made of it." Speaking as a Brit, I think this article makes quite a few fair and valid points. Thank you. I may not agre 100% with the whole article, it does bring up some great points. "Always blessings, never losses......"
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Shapeshifter said: "Your rate of marriage is at an all-time low, and the number of abortions in Europe is at an all-time high. Indeed, your birth rates are so far below replacement levels that in 30 years or so there will be 70 million fewer Europeans alive than are alive today. Europe is literally dying. And of the children you do manage to produce, all too few will be raised in stable, two-parent households.
Divorce rated and abortion rates are way higher in the US. I agree the baby-boom generation dying will be a problem in Europe, but that will also be the case in the US. So whatever problems Europeans have, Americans have it also, or worse. Hardly a reason to put us down. "Your economy is stagnant because your government regulators make it just about impossible for your entrepreneurs to succeed - except by fleeing to the United States, where we welcome them and celebrate their success.
This is true. It's only part of the story though. Europeans value other things over economic growth: better social security, less working hours, less poverty, ... And compared to the US economy in recent years, we aren't doing that bad. But i'll admit there is room for improvement. "And your armed forces are a joke. With the notable exception of Great Britain, you no longer have the military strength to defend yourselves. Alas, you no longer have the will to defend yourselves".
What is it? The will or the strength? We are bringing democracy to many eastern-European countries. Turkey is changing radically to become part of the European Union. We resolved our internal differences from the last century. We fought in Afghanistan alongside the US against the Taliban after 9/11. I think we're doing just fine. "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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SpcMs said: What is it? The will or the strength? We are bringing democracy to many eastern-European countries. Turkey is changing radically to become part of the European Union. We resolved our internal differences from the last century. We fought in Afghanistan alongside the US against the Taliban after 9/11. I think we're doing just fine.
You are bringing democracy to many eastern-european contries are the US did. Who defeated the Soviet Union in the cold war? Wasn't it the US? And didn't that open the door for all this reform? If the Soviet Union was still around there would be no hope for democracy in these easter-euorpean contries, right or wrong? "Always blessings, never losses......"
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SpcMs said: ...I agree the baby-boom generation dying will be a problem in Europe, but that will also be the case in the US...
Now who is blowing smoke out of their ass????? It's not any particualar generation dying out, it's birth rates that determine population. And you can find no proof anywhere that the US birth rates are going down or are below US death rates. "Always blessings, never losses......"
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Shapeshifter said: Sowhat said: "An Open Letter to Europe"
Written by Herbert E. Meyer on November 11, 2004 "Hi. Are you nuts? "Forgive me for being so blunt, but your reaction to our reelection of President Bush has been so outrageous that I'm wondering if you have quite literally lost your minds. One of Britain's largest newspapers ran a headline asking "How Can 59 Million Americans Be So Dumb?", and commentators in France all seemed to use the same word - bizarre -- to explain the election's outcome to their readers. In Germany the editors of Die Tageszeitung responded to our vote by writing that "Bush belongs at a war tribunal - not in the White House." And on a London radio talk show last week one Jeremy Hardy described our President and those of us who voted for him as "stupid, crazy, ignorant, bellicose Christian fundamentalists." "Of course, you are entitled to whatever views about us that you care to hold. (And lucky for you we Americans aren't like so many of the Muslims on your own continent; as the late Dutch film maker Theo van Gogh just discovered, make one nasty crack about them and you're likely to get six bullets pumped into your head and a knife plunged into your chest). But before you write us off as just a bunch of sweaty, hairy-chested, Bible-thumping morons who are more likely to break their fast by dipping a Krispy Kreme into a diet cola than a biscotti into an espresso - and who inexplicably have won more Nobel prizes than all other countries combined, host 25 or 30 of the world's finest universities and five or six of the world's best symphonies, produce wines that win prizes at your own tasting competitions, have built the world's most vibrant economy, are the world's only military superpower and, so to speak in our spare time, have landed on the moon and sent our robots to Mars -- may I suggest you stop frothing at the mouth long enough to consider just what are these ideas we hold that you find so silly and repugnant? "We believe that church and state should be separate, but that religion should remain at the center of life. We are a Judeo-Christian culture, which means we consider those ten things on a tablet to be commandments, not suggestions. We believe that individuals are more important than groups, that families are more important than governments, that children should be raised by their parents rather than by the State, and that marriage should take place only between a man and a woman. We believe that rights must be balanced by responsibilities, that personal freedom is a privilege we must be careful not to abuse, and that the rule of law cannot be set aside when it becomes inconvenient. We believe in economic liberty, and in the right of purposeful and industrious entrepreneurs to run their businesses – and thus create jobs - with a minimum of government interference. We recognize that other people see things differently, and we are tolerant of their views. But we believe that our country is worth defending, and if anyone decides that killing us is an okay thing to do we will go after them with everything we've got. "If these beliefs seem strange to you, they shouldn't. For these are precisely the beliefs that powered Western Europe—you—from the Middle Ages into the Renaissance, on to the Enlightenment, and forward into the modern world. They are the beliefs that made Europe itself the glory of Western civilization and - not coincidentally - ignited the greatest outpouring of art, literature, music and scientific discovery the world has ever known including Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Shakespeare, Bach, Isaac Newton and Descartes. "It is your abandonment of these beliefs that has created the gap between Europe and the United States. You have ceased to be a Judeo-Christian culture, and have become instead a secular culture. And a secular culture quickly goes from being "un-religious" to anti-religious. Indeed, your hostility to the basic concepts of Judaism and Christianity has literally been written into your new European Union constitution, despite the Pope's heroic efforts to the contrary. "Your rate of marriage is at an all-time low, and the number of abortions in Europe is at an all-time high. Indeed, your birth rates are so far below replacement levels that in 30 years or so there will be 70 million fewer Europeans alive than are alive today. Europe is literally dying. And of the children you do manage to produce, all too few will be raised in stable, two-parent households. "Your economy is stagnant because your government regulators make it just about impossible for your entrepreneurs to succeed - except by fleeing to the United States, where we welcome them and celebrate their success. "And your armed forces are a joke. With the notable exception of Great Britain, you no longer have the military strength to defend yourselves. Alas, you no longer have the will to defend yourselves. "What worries me even more than all this is your willful blindness. You refuse to see that it is you, not we Americans, who have abandoned Western Civilization. It's worrisome because, to tell you the truth, we need each other. Western Civilization today is under siege, from radical Islam on the outside and from our own selfish hedonism within. It's going to take all of our effort, our talent, our creativity and, above all, our will to pull through. So take a good, hard look at yourselves and see what your own future will be if you don't change course. And please, stop sneering at America long enough to understand it. After all, Western Civilization was your gift to us, and you ought to be proud of what we Americans have made of it." Speaking as a Brit, I think this article makes quite a few fair and valid points. Are you sure you are not American!? 
The article became a joke to me when the writer hoped to play on the typical ignorance of the general American public. 25 of top 30 universities in the world!?!?! 5 of the six best symphonies!?! As for the wine!?!?!?!?!?!?! Anyone want to argue!?!?!?! It goes on. But the best bit? We should be grateful for what the US has done with "western civilisation (which they spelt wrong)? Tell that to the larger world. Its just the usual story. The Americans can't take critisism. This writer simply tried to puff up the chest of his readers and get them to agreee with his article throught simple ignorant patriotism. Funny thing is, it works wonders. . | |
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SpcMs said: And while the US 'fights' against terrorism a lot more,
When did the US start fighting terrorism? It burns when I obtain
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Wow, whoever wrote this is a fucking idiot. Where'd you lift it from, www.judeochristianpower.com? | |
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i like most europeans, but fuck what they think, plus the media fucks everything up | |
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SquirrelMeat said: Funny thing is, it works wonders.
It aint funny  2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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Here's a similar piece from the Westboro Baptist Church:
"It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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Funny.
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