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SupaFunkyOrgan
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For those who don't believe in abortion. Would you support overturning RoeV Wade if it meant we'd have to execute women?

You scored a big victory with this election. Congratulations. You now have a president that would like to see the abolishmnet of abortion. You also have a congress that increasingly supports this. And with one Supreme Court justice very ill and others likely to retire, there is a good chance that the right to choose will be overturned.

In the event that Roe V. Wade is overturned, should we start killing women who have abortions?

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Reply #1 posted 11/03/04 12:42pm

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The death penalty, yee-haw! *shoots rifle*

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Reply #2 posted 11/03/04 12:42pm

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How about we just keep our legs closed if we're not ready to deal with the consequences. Abortion is a sad thing. Steps should be taken long before that "choice" ever has to be considered.

edit: and regarding rape, incest, etc. -- we still should consider the alternatives before "choosing" murder
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Snap said:

How about we just keep our legs closed if we're not ready to deal with the consequences. Abortion is a sad thing. Steps should be taken long before that "choice" ever has to be considered.


What a surprising answer bored

Answer the question. Should we start killing women who have abortions?

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Reply #4 posted 11/03/04 12:46pm

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how about we all make a vow, as a community, to help one another so that abortions are not necessary.

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Reply #5 posted 11/03/04 12:47pm

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SassierBritches said:

how about we all make a vow, as a community, to help one another so that abortions are not necessary.


All this talk about women keeping their legs shut and community vows will not eliminate unwanted pregnancies.

Answer the question. Is killing women who kill their babies the answer?

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SassierBritches said:

how about we all make a vow, as a community, to help one another so that abortions are not necessary.


Answer the question. Is killing women who kill their babies the answer?

the question becomes irrelevant if people abide by the law and help one another.

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Reply #7 posted 11/03/04 12:49pm

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Snap and what alternatives do you propose?

Snap said:

How about we just keep our legs closed if we're not ready to deal with the consequences. Abortion is a sad thing. Steps should be taken long before that "choice" ever has to be considered.

edit: and regarding rape, incest, etc. -- we still should consider the alternatives before "choosing" murder
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Reply #8 posted 11/03/04 12:50pm

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Hell no. Every women should have a right to her body




SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SassierBritches said:

how about we all make a vow, as a community, to help one another so that abortions are not necessary.


All this talk about women keeping their legs shut and community vows will not eliminate unwanted pregnancies.

Answer the question. Is killing women who kill their babies the answer?

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Reply #9 posted 11/03/04 12:50pm

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SassierBritches said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Answer the question. Is killing women who kill their babies the answer?

the question becomes irrelevant if people abide by the law and help one another.

The question is not irrelivant because no amount of legislated crackdown will eliminate abortions. When it used to be illegal, women had them and if it becomes illegal again women will continue having them.

Don't be a coward and answer the question.

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Reply #10 posted 11/03/04 12:52pm

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abid by the law what the hell kind of statment is that?

SassierBritches said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Answer the question. Is killing women who kill their babies the answer?

the question becomes irrelevant if people abide by the law and help one another.

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Reply #11 posted 11/03/04 12:56pm

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leosqtpie said:

abid by the law what the hell kind of statment is that?

SassierBritches said:


the question becomes irrelevant if people abide by the law and help one another.


A very naive one nod As long as men exist on this planet they will want to get their rocks off. Telling women to shut their legs only ignores one part of the equation.

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SassierBritches said:


the question becomes irrelevant if people abide by the law and help one another.

The question is not irrelivant because no amount of legislated crackdown will eliminate abortions. When it used to be illegal, women had them and if it becomes illegal again women will continue having them.

Don't be a coward and answer the question.

perhaps those who have abortions due to careless behaviour should not be cowards and step to the responsibility?

but, since i have ot leave for class, i will play your game and answer the question.

no, i don't believe in humans being the arbiters of life and death. i would certainly not take the life of a person because they took the life of a person. the logic isn't there in my opinion. i think there are other things those women could do to repay their debt to society just as i think there are other options for current prisoners serving sentences of death. if the death penalty exists, however, and the woman is aware that her actions can bring about a sentence of death she would be committing the crime with the understanding of its consequences should she be caught.

i've worked with several organizations trying to get the death penalty abolished in the states. regardless of that, i still understand that if i were to commit murderin my state i would be eligible for the death chamber. i would not commit murder and then fight the punishment. i will choose not to commit murder and avoid the consequences altogether.

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leosqtpie said:

abid by the law what the hell kind of statment is that?

SassierBritches said:


the question becomes irrelevant if people abide by the law and help one another.

confuse

i'm not from canada so i may be incorrect but i thought you guys had laws there. and if you break the law you go to jail or prison. is this not the case?

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Reply #14 posted 11/03/04 1:01pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

In the event that Roe V. Wade is overturned, should we start killing women who have abortions?

No.

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Reply #15 posted 11/03/04 1:01pm

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SassierBritches said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


The question is not irrelivant because no amount of legislated crackdown will eliminate abortions. When it used to be illegal, women had them and if it becomes illegal again women will continue having them.

Don't be a coward and answer the question.

perhaps those who have abortions due to careless behaviour should not be cowards and step to the responsibility?

but, since i have ot leave for class, i will play your game and answer the question.

no, i don't believe in humans being the arbiters of life and death. i would certainly not take the life of a person because they took the life of a person. the logic isn't there in my opinion. i think there are other things those women could do to repay their debt to society just as i think there are other options for current prisoners serving sentences of death. if the death penalty exists, however, and the woman is aware that her actions can bring about a sentence of death she would be committing the crime with the understanding of its consequences should she be caught.

i've worked with several organizations trying to get the death penalty abolished in the states. regardless of that, i still understand that if i were to commit murderin my state i would be eligible for the death chamber. i would not commit murder and then fight the punishment. i will choose not to commit murder and avoid the consequences altogether.


Do you consider taking a pill so that a fertilized egg does not implant the same as murder? If so, should we lock up these women for taking birth control pills?

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Reply #16 posted 11/03/04 1:04pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SassierBritches said:


perhaps those who have abortions due to careless behaviour should not be cowards and step to the responsibility?

but, since i have ot leave for class, i will play your game and answer the question.

no, i don't believe in humans being the arbiters of life and death. i would certainly not take the life of a person because they took the life of a person. the logic isn't there in my opinion. i think there are other things those women could do to repay their debt to society just as i think there are other options for current prisoners serving sentences of death. if the death penalty exists, however, and the woman is aware that her actions can bring about a sentence of death she would be committing the crime with the understanding of its consequences should she be caught.

i've worked with several organizations trying to get the death penalty abolished in the states. regardless of that, i still understand that if i were to commit murderin my state i would be eligible for the death chamber. i would not commit murder and then fight the punishment. i will choose not to commit murder and avoid the consequences altogether.


Do you consider taking a pill so that a fertilized egg does not implant the same as murder? If so, should we lock up these women for taking birth control pills?

i'm not against birth control. i don't think i've ever given the impression that i am. i just hop eyour not comparing birth control to abortion...because abortion is NO kind of birth control. it scares me that you would lump the two in the same category.

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SassierBritches said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Do you consider taking a pill so that a fertilized egg does not implant the same as murder? If so, should we lock up these women for taking birth control pills?

i'm not against birth control. i don't think i've ever given the impression that i am. i just hop eyour not comparing birth control to abortion...because abortion is NO kind of birth control. it scares me that you would lump the two in the same category.

I wasn't comparing it to birth control, but some staunch anti-choice proponents do equate birth control with murder.

If the GOP is successful in overturning Roe V. Wade and the punishment for abortions is the execution of women, which you have to admit many "pro-lifers" support, would you still support the abolishment of abortion?

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Reply #18 posted 11/03/04 1:09pm

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Yes we have laws here but having an abortion here is not a law see were a free country and we can do whatever we like. So you think that people who have abortions should go to jail?


SassierBritches said:

leosqtpie said:

abid by the law what the hell kind of statment is that?


confuse

i'm not from canada so i may be incorrect but i thought you guys had laws there. and if you break the law you go to jail or prison. is this not the case?

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Reply #19 posted 11/03/04 1:09pm

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I say no BECAUSE...."technically" the baby is considered a fetus until it is viable outside of the womb. This is a touchy area, but a good question. If the baby reaches a viable stage, then that's a whole other game...I know, I know...there are women who abort when they are up to 8 months, that's late term abortion, I believe it's called. I personally look at it as killing if the baby is viable, and even more so if it is late term as I stated above. I truly believe EVERY woman has a right to choose ..if it's up to a certain point.Then they should have to give the child up for adoption OR let the father take it if he wants the child. I guess it's a very very hard thing to truly say what you would do unless you are in that position. The only thing I have a huge problem with are all those who oppose, oopse,oppose.....but don't sit back & think about who will take care of all these unwanted babies??? I don't see them stepping up to bat, sure they are right there to give "advice" or "criticize" , but where are they when it comes down to actually doing something??? I know I will probably get some slack for my opinion, but oh well...no matter who gives their opinion, someone will have to add their twocents but that's ok..I respect others opinions too. Mine doesn't reflect upon anyone here.

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Reply #20 posted 11/03/04 1:10pm

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you are definatly right



SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SassierBritches said:


i'm not against birth control. i don't think i've ever given the impression that i am. i just hop eyour not comparing birth control to abortion...because abortion is NO kind of birth control. it scares me that you would lump the two in the same category.

I wasn't comparing it to birth control, but some staunch anti-choice proponents do equate birth control with murder.

If the GOP is successful in overturning Roe V. Wade and the punishment for abortions is the execution of women, which you have to admit many "pro-lifers" support, would you still support the abolishment of abortion?

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Reply #21 posted 11/03/04 1:11pm

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Kellie I was just about to say all of what you said



Kellie said:

I say no BECAUSE...."technically" the baby is considered a fetus until it is viable outside of the womb. This is a touchy area, but a good question. If the baby reaches a viable stage, then that's a whole other game...I know, I know...there are women who abort when they are up to 8 months, that's late term abortion, I believe it's called. I personally look at it as killing if the baby is viable, and even more so if it is late term as I stated above. I truly believe EVERY woman has a right to choose ..if it's up to a certain point.Then they should have to give the child up for adoption OR let the father take it if he wants the child. I guess it's a very very hard thing to truly say what you would do unless you are in that position. The only thing I have a huge problem with are all those who oppose, oopse,oppose.....but don't sit back & think about who will take care of all these unwanted babies??? I don't see them stepping up to bat, sure they are right there to give "advice" or "criticize" , but where are they when it comes down to actually doing something??? I know I will probably get some slack for my opinion, but oh well...no matter who gives their opinion, someone will have to add their twocents but that's ok..I respect others opinions too. Mine doesn't reflect upon anyone here.

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Reply #22 posted 11/03/04 1:11pm

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Regardless of how many lives BUSH took, I don't think he should be killed. An abortion is between the mother, father and God. It doesn't affect anyone else and isn't anyone else's business.

Bush represents America and Americans. A woman who has an abortion does not represent America or Americans. The right to choose should represent America.

hmmm Maybe that's why Bush won. Those who support him keep breeding. doh! I guess we better get started having babies and get on welfare too!

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VinaBlue said:

Regardless of how many lives BUSH took, I don't think he should be killed. An abortion is between the mother, father and God. It doesn't affect anyone else and isn't anyone else's business.

Bush represents America and Americans. A woman who has an abortion does not represent America or Americans. The right to choose should represent America.

hmmm Maybe that's why Bush won. Those who support him keep breeding. doh! I guess we better get started having babies and get on welfare too!


My wiener works! I just need some viagra. Who wants to breed with me? Vina? lol

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Reply #24 posted 11/03/04 1:17pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

You scored a big victory with this election. Congratulations. You now have a president that would like to see the abolishmnet of abortion. You also have a congress that increasingly supports this. And with one Supreme Court justice very ill and others likely to retire, there is a good chance that the right to choose will be overturned.

In the event that Roe V. Wade is overturned, should we start killing women who have abortions?


heck no! i don't believe in the death penalty.

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Reply #25 posted 11/03/04 1:18pm

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you are so funny you totally crack me up nutty


SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

VinaBlue said:

Regardless of how many lives BUSH took, I don't think he should be killed. An abortion is between the mother, father and God. It doesn't affect anyone else and isn't anyone else's business.

Bush represents America and Americans. A woman who has an abortion does not represent America or Americans. The right to choose should represent America.

hmmm Maybe that's why Bush won. Those who support him keep breeding. doh! I guess we better get started having babies and get on welfare too!


My wiener works! I just need some viagra. Who wants to breed with me? Vina? lol

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Reply #26 posted 11/03/04 1:26pm

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So far, I'm heartened to see that 3 of the most vocal advocates against abortion do not support this insane belief that women should be murdered for their decision to abort. I know people who do seriously believe it and I know it's not an uncommon thought in the right to life movement.

Heiin, Sassy, and Thunder. Would you support a reversal of Roe V. Wade if the punishment were death of the mother. I ask this in seriousness because someone somewhere will enteretain this notion when they attempt to overturn the right to choose.

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Reply #27 posted 11/03/04 1:27pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

VinaBlue said:

Regardless of how many lives BUSH took, I don't think he should be killed. An abortion is between the mother, father and God. It doesn't affect anyone else and isn't anyone else's business.

Bush represents America and Americans. A woman who has an abortion does not represent America or Americans. The right to choose should represent America.

hmmm Maybe that's why Bush won. Those who support him keep breeding. doh! I guess we better get started having babies and get on welfare too!


My wiener works! I just need some viagra. Who wants to breed with me? Vina? lol


Sure. I like you. You're smart, cute and sexy. horny We're gonna have to put some quick-grow on the babies for the next election though...

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

So far, I'm heartened to see that 3 of the most vocal advocates against abortion do not support this insane belief that women should be murdered for their decision to abort. I know people who do seriously believe it and I know it's not an uncommon thought in the right to life movement.

Heiin, Sassy, and Thunder. Would you support a reversal of Roe V. Wade if the punishment were death of the mother. I ask this in seriousness because someone somewhere will enteretain this notion when they attempt to overturn the right to choose.

It sounds like you mean mandatory death penalty, and I don't think that's ever going to happen.

I tell you what. If you're going to assume certain beliefs go hand-in-hand, start entertaining the possibility that some people don't want anyone to die.

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Reply #29 posted 11/03/04 1:32pm

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They wont respond to you there to scared



SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

So far, I'm heartened to see that 3 of the most vocal advocates against abortion do not support this insane belief that women should be murdered for their decision to abort. I know people who do seriously believe it and I know it's not an uncommon thought in the right to life movement.

Heiin, Sassy, and Thunder. Would you support a reversal of Roe V. Wade if the punishment were death of the mother. I ask this in seriousness because someone somewhere will enteretain this notion when they attempt to overturn the right to choose.

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