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Reply #30 posted 08/17/04 12:07pm

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If it was up to this guy, we would live in the dark ages.

I agree, boycott his ass and revoke his license so he can't play terrorist with other peoples lives. BTW I did not know you could get prescriptions over the net. Does the ban on that only apply to narcotics??





you can get presciptions via the net...and please dont be condescending...i still love ya, even if we disagree on this subject...


I'm not being condescending. That was a serious question. I did not know you could get pills over the net. I've never tried. biggrin

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Reply #31 posted 08/17/04 12:22pm

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There is always a lowest common denominator to every issue. Usually not popular.
The LCD in this case is that this guy owns a private business.
His private business is free to sell anything legal he wants to sell and to not sell anything that he does not want to sell.
I do not have any problems with birth control, but I do have a problem with someone telling a private business owner how to conduct his business.

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Reply #32 posted 08/17/04 12:26pm

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Can someone more adept at Google searches see if they can determine whether or not there is a legal requirement for a licensed pharmacist to provide services as deemed by a physician. I can't find anything.

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Reply #33 posted 08/17/04 12:27pm

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seekingtruth said:

There is always a lowest common denominator to every issue. Usually not popular.
The LCD in this case is that this guy owns a private business.
His private business is free to sell anything legal he wants to sell and to not sell anything that he does not want to sell.
I do not have any problems with birth control, but I do have a problem with someone telling a private business owner how to conduct his business.


Well I have a problem with private business owners strong arming and terrorising others because they can in the guise of private business rights.

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Reply #34 posted 08/17/04 12:30pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

seekingtruth said:

There is always a lowest common denominator to every issue. Usually not popular.
The LCD in this case is that this guy owns a private business.
His private business is free to sell anything legal he wants to sell and to not sell anything that he does not want to sell.
I do not have any problems with birth control, but I do have a problem with someone telling a private business owner how to conduct his business.


Well I have a problem with private business owners strong arming and terrorising others because they can in the guise of private business rights.


I am sure that this pharmacy owner gave that much thought to it.
I am positive that this pharmacy is the epicenter of all types of conspiracy.

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Reply #35 posted 08/17/04 12:51pm

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Supa,
It is possible to get drugs online. In fact, there was a report on my local news not too long ago discussing how easy it is.
You can get anything from vicodine to anabolic steroids. I'm thinkin' of beefin' up for the winter. giggle

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Reply #36 posted 08/17/04 12:54pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Can someone more adept at Google searches see if they can determine whether or not there is a legal requirement for a licensed pharmacist to provide services as deemed by a physician. I can't find anything.

Google is your friend:

Gay Dodson, executive director of the Texas State Board of Pharmacy, said state law allows pharmacists to decline filling prescriptions if the medication could harm the patient.

"The law does not say that the pharmacy can decline because of moral ground," she said.

CNN-link: http://edition.cnn.com/20...rotest.ap/

So apparently state law in Texas (of all places) seems to agree that a pharmacy is not just 'any other business'. And i'm sure they gave that good thought also wink

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Reply #37 posted 08/17/04 12:55pm

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OdysseyMiles said:

Supa,
It is possible to get drugs online. In fact, there was a report on my local news not too long ago discussing how easy it is.
You can get anything from vicodine to anabolic steroids. I'm thinkin' of beefin' up for the winter. giggle


What if she doesn't have a computer?

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Reply #38 posted 08/17/04 12:57pm

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SpcMs said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Can someone more adept at Google searches see if they can determine whether or not there is a legal requirement for a licensed pharmacist to provide services as deemed by a physician. I can't find anything.

Google is your friend:

Gay Dodson, executive director of the Texas State Board of Pharmacy, said state law allows pharmacists to decline filling prescriptions if the medication could harm the patient.

"The law does not say that the pharmacy can decline because of moral ground," she said.

CNN-link: http://edition.cnn.com/20...rotest.ap/

So apparently state law in Texas (of all places) seems to agree that a pharmacy is not just 'any other business'. And i'm sure they gave that good thought also wink


So he is not justified in his position! As a pharmacist he has no say on whether or not a drug can or will harm a patient. That is determined between the doctor and the patient.

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Reply #39 posted 08/17/04 1:03pm

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Reply #40 posted 08/17/04 1:16pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SpcMs said:


Google is your friend:

Gay Dodson, executive director of the Texas State Board of Pharmacy, said state law allows pharmacists to decline filling prescriptions if the medication could harm the patient.

"The law does not say that the pharmacy can decline because of moral ground," she said.

CNN-link: http://edition.cnn.com/20...rotest.ap/

So apparently state law in Texas (of all places) seems to agree that a pharmacy is not just 'any other business'. And i'm sure they gave that good thought also wink


So he is not justified in his position! As a pharmacist he has no say on whether or not a drug can or will harm a patient. That is determined between the doctor and the patient.



not that i agree with this but he could easily claim that the unborn embryo is a life and that *that* would be harmed.....

not that i agree with it.. shrug

hey, i respect the law as written though and if this guy is violating any laws then he should be prosecuted...

however, i still think that the laws should reflect his right as a business owner...

but thats just my lil ole opinion.....

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Reply #41 posted 08/17/04 1:27pm

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SpcMs said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Can someone more adept at Google searches see if they can determine whether or not there is a legal requirement for a licensed pharmacist to provide services as deemed by a physician. I can't find anything.

Google is your friend:

Gay Dodson, executive director of the Texas State Board of Pharmacy, said state law allows pharmacists to decline filling prescriptions if the medication could harm the patient.

"The law does not say that the pharmacy can decline because of moral ground," she said.

CNN-link: http://edition.cnn.com/20...rotest.ap/

So apparently state law in Texas (of all places) seems to agree that a pharmacy is not just 'any other business'. And i'm sure they gave that good thought also wink


If that is the case, then I am sure that the courts of that state or county will deal with it.

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Reply #42 posted 08/17/04 1:44pm

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What I was saying in my post is that it is more than likely this guy is running a business and he has belief issues that restrict him from selling birth control; I doubt very seriously that it is his purpose to keep anyone else from their rights.

Turning this into another class war is not even intelligible if that was supa's intent.

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Reply #43 posted 08/17/04 1:49pm

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Bottom line is that this fucker is preventing women from getting healthcare. It's not up to him to decide who should have birth control pills and for what. His licence should be revoked!

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Reply #44 posted 08/17/04 1:51pm

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seekingtruth said:

What I was saying in my post is that it is more than likely this guy is running a business and he has belief issues that restrict him from selling birth control; I doubt very seriously that it is his purpose to keep anyone else from their rights.

Turning this into another class war is not even intelligible if that was supa's intent.



BUT HE IS!

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Reply #45 posted 08/17/04 1:53pm

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applekisses said:

Bottom line is that this fucker is preventing women from getting healthcare. It's not up to him to decide who should have birth control pills and for what. His licence should be revoked!



calling birthcontrol "healthcare" is a stretch...

and im a pro-choicer.....

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Reply #46 posted 08/17/04 1:55pm

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Bottom line is that this fucker is preventing women from getting healthcare. It's not up to him to decide who should have birth control pills and for what. His licence should be revoked!


He is not deciding what healthcare anyone should get. He deciding what kind of 'healthcare' that he wants to provide through his business. Big difference

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Reply #47 posted 08/17/04 1:58pm

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sosgemini said:

applekisses said:

Bottom line is that this fucker is preventing women from getting healthcare. It's not up to him to decide who should have birth control pills and for what. His licence should be revoked!



calling birthcontrol "healthcare" is a stretch...

and im a pro-choicer.....



Technically it is...

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Reply #48 posted 08/17/04 2:00pm

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seekingtruth said:

applekisses said:

Bottom line is that this fucker is preventing women from getting healthcare. It's not up to him to decide who should have birth control pills and for what. His licence should be revoked!


He is not deciding what healthcare anyone should get. He deciding what kind of 'healthcare' that he wants to provide through his business. Big difference



He owns the only pharmacy in town. Therefore, he is deciding what healthcare the women of that town should get. His behavior is outrageous and his licence should be revoked.

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Reply #49 posted 08/17/04 2:03pm

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applekisses said:

sosgemini said:




calling birthcontrol "healthcare" is a stretch...

and im a pro-choicer.....



Technically it is...



its selective care.....you woman have control of your reproductive organs but that doesnt constitute it as a neccessity ...

what next? doctors *have* to give boob jobs?

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Reply #50 posted 08/17/04 2:03pm

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seekingtruth said:



He is not deciding what healthcare anyone should get. He deciding what kind of 'healthcare' that he wants to provide through his business. Big difference



He owns the only pharmacy in town. Therefore, he is deciding what healthcare the women of that town should get. His behavior is outrageous and his licence should be revoked.


ACTUALLY IF THERE ENOUGH DEMAND

SOMEONE ELSE OPEN PHARMACY SOON AND MAKE ALL BIRTH CONTROL SALE


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Reply #51 posted 08/17/04 2:06pm

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applekisses said:

sosgemini said:




calling birthcontrol "healthcare" is a stretch...

and im a pro-choicer.....



Technically it is...


I'll give you an example...

I get horrible migraines that are connected to my cycle. My doctor suggested that I go on the pill to control hormone fluctuations. This asshole Texan said he WOULD fill birth control pill prescriptions that were used for other medical reasons besides birth control. NOW...I am within child-bearing age...SO technically no matter what I take the pill for it will still be used by my body as birth control.
So...if I lived in that God-forsaken town...I would be denied healthcare by that fucker.

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Reply #52 posted 08/17/04 2:08pm

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applekisses said:




Technically it is...



its selective care.....you woman have control of your reproductive organs but that doesnt constitute it as a neccessity ...

what next? doctors *have* to give boob jobs?



Read the response I just posted.
And, there is a BIG difference between a "boob job" and a woman taking responsibilty for her own reproduction. A BOOB JOB doesn't result in a CHILD.

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Reply #53 posted 08/17/04 2:13pm

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sosgemini said:

applekisses said:




Technically it is...



its selective care.....you woman have control of your reproductive organs but that doesnt constitute it as a neccessity ...

what next? doctors *have* to give boob jobs?



Oh, and btw, that was really fucking sexist.

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Reply #54 posted 08/17/04 2:26pm

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applekisses said:

sosgemini said:




its selective care.....you woman have control of your reproductive organs but that doesnt constitute it as a neccessity ...

what next? doctors *have* to give boob jobs?



Oh, and btw, that was really fucking sexist.



its not sexist..it wasnt intended and apologies if you felt it was...however, i could easily have used a nose-job or any other selective surgery....and i stand by my opinion that b-control pills are not a health neccessity.....its an option....sure, the option to take them reduces your chances of pregnancy...but its a choice...your individual choice....dont put that on this entire world...take pride that you have that choice...but i dont see it fair that this person has to be involved in what comes down to your own business....find an alternative way of getting your pills.....there out there...

and the reasoning for your b-control use is hormone related, is it not? could you not recieve hormone pills versus b-control pills?

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Reply #55 posted 08/17/04 2:27pm

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sosgemini said:

applekisses said:

Bottom line is that this fucker is preventing women from getting healthcare. It's not up to him to decide who should have birth control pills and for what. His licence should be revoked!



calling birthcontrol "healthcare" is a stretch...

and im a pro-choicer.....


It's absolutely not a stretch. If birthcontrol had nothing to do with healthcare, doctors would not be prescrbing it and it would be available over the counter like Halls cough drops.

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Reply #56 posted 08/17/04 2:34pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

sosgemini said:




calling birthcontrol "healthcare" is a stretch...

and im a pro-choicer.....


It's absolutely not a stretch. If birthcontrol had nothing to do with healthcare, doctors would not be prescrbing it and it would be available over the counter like Halls cough drops.



its "managed" by doctors because of the active ingredients and the need to regulate the amount of hormones it contains...

following that logic are we to believe that rogaine is healthcare?

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Reply #57 posted 08/17/04 2:34pm

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applekisses said:

seekingtruth said:

What I was saying in my post is that it is more than likely this guy is running a business and he has belief issues that restrict him from selling birth control; I doubt very seriously that it is his purpose to keep anyone else from their rights.

Turning this into another class war is not even intelligible if that was supa's intent.



BUT HE IS!


Absolutely that is his intent. To infringe on a woman's right to make the medical decisions she and her doctor deem necessary for herself.

What is unintelligible here is the failure to recognize that the class war is being fought by the pharmacist, not me. The class war is started by people who insist on infringing on other's ability and right to recieve the authorized and LEGAL medicine their docrtor has prescribed. I'm only standing up for what is legal in this country. To be prescribed birth control and have it filled by a pharmacist. That's not against the law. And it's not the pharmacists place to say whether or not this woman recieves it.

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Reply #58 posted 08/17/04 2:36pm

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sosgemini said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



It's absolutely not a stretch. If birthcontrol had nothing to do with healthcare, doctors would not be prescrbing it and it would be available over the counter like Halls cough drops.



its "managed" by doctors because of the active ingredients and the need to regulate the amount of hormones it contains...

following that logic are we to believe that rogaine is healthcare?


Now who's stretching? Big time difference between maintaining and controlling your reproductive choices and putting hair on your head. To the point that mental health is considered a part of "healthcare", forcing women to not have the option to care for their own bodies can cause a person undue distress.

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Reply #59 posted 08/17/04 2:42pm

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Oh, and btw, that was really fucking sexist.



its not sexist..it wasnt intended and apologies if you felt it was...however, i could easily have used a nose-job or any other selective surgery....and i stand by my opinion that b-control pills are not a health neccessity.....its an option....sure, the option to take them reduces your chances of pregnancy...but its a choice...your individual choice....dont put that on this entire world...take pride that you have that choice...but i dont see it fair that this person has to be involved in what comes down to your own business....find an alternative way of getting your pills.....there out there...

and the reasoning for your b-control use is hormone related, is it not? could you not recieve hormone pills versus b-control pills?


Birth control pills are the "option" with the highest rate of success in preventing pregancy. How do you feel about putting a bunch of unwanted children on the world?
Also, my DOCTOR prescribed birth control pills (not hormone pills) for my migraines. She is a specialist in her field. She did not prescribe them to me for birth control.

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