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ehh..its a free market....people can go somewhere else and buy there pills..... Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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sosgemini said: ehh..its a free market....people can go somewhere else and buy there pills.....
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applekisses said:[quote]Fabens pharmacist won't fill orders for birth control pills
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kisscamille said: The pharmacist in this case is a fucking idiot and should be stripped of his licence. This is what fanatical religious beliefs can do. It makes me sick. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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Standing up for your right to Religion, or lack thereof, does include the freedom of others to act on theirs. If it is a privately owned establishment, He should have the right to sell or not sell whatever he chooses.
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seekingtruth said: Standing up for your right to Religion, or lack thereof, does include the freedom of others to act on theirs. If it is a privately owned establishment, He should have the right to sell or not sell whatever he chooses.
Is there a rep for Walgreen's out there? This city is taking bids. we agree on something? Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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sosgemini said: seekingtruth said: Standing up for your right to Religion, or lack thereof, does include the freedom of others to act on theirs. If it is a privately owned establishment, He should have the right to sell or not sell whatever he chooses.
Is there a rep for Walgreen's out there? This city is taking bids. we agree on something? According to some of the posts you put up, we agree on quite a bit; just maybe not lawyers and doctors bears; oh my. True genius is knowing how little
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Can we evacuate all the smart people and nuclear bomb the south already?
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sosgemini said: ehh..its a free market....people can go somewhere else and buy there pills.....
I don't think so. In this specific case, this woman has access to one pharmacy where she lives. Why should she have to travel an exorbitant distance to get a legal prescription? What if she doesn't have transportation? Why should she have to jump through hoops of fire? Free market has nothing to do with this. The pharmacist is in the business of filling prescriptions, not instituting his morality. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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I don't understand this shit "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Can we evacuate all the smart people and nuclear bomb the south already?
I heard a story on NPR the other day in which these nurses would not distribute the morning after pill because they felt it was the same as abortion. 2 days worth of divided cells is nothing more than 2 days of divided cells. Get out of the healthcare profession if you can't care for patients! HELL YES! Measure in Love
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: sosgemini said: ehh..its a free market....people can go somewhere else and buy there pills.....
I don't think so. In this specific case, this woman has access to one pharmacy where she lives. Why should she have to travel an exorbitant distance to get a legal prescription? What if she doesn't have transportation? Why should she have to jump through hoops of fire? Free market has nothing to do with this. The pharmacist is in the business of filling prescriptions, not instituting his morality. I was thinking the same thing. Measure in Love
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It has everything to do with free market.
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seekingtruth said: It has everything to do with free market.
The fact that this city lacks the convenience of another pharmacy is in no way the responsibility of the one that does exist. I am sure that it is inconvenient to drive, but sometimes, that's life. If this inconvenience is causing enough demand, I am sure they could get another one in there. I used to live in a small town that only had a McDonald's; I had no right to be upset with Ronald that he would not sell me a Whopper. There is a big fuckin difference between an artery clogging fat drenched sandwhich, which frankly your body can live without, and birth control pills that actually help people to control their reproductive future. Surely you can see the staggering difference in the ramifications of only having one McDonalds that provides junk food and one pharmacy that provides healthcare services. The market has nothing to do with this. Pharmacists are in the business of providing patients with the services that their doctors have deemed necessary. They are not in the business to force their moral beliefs on others. Just because people are obsessed with other peoples eggs does not give them the right to take away or reduce someone's LEGAL choices and options. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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I actually have to agree with the free market issue.
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I honestly cannot wait until such time that the "free market" dictates that people have to worship their gods in underground caves because you won't be singing that tune then. As an owner of a business the issue of free market enters the scene, however as a licensed pharmacist he should have his license yanked because it's not his free decision as a provider of healthcare services to force his beliefs on an individual who has made their legal choices in conjunction with their doctor. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Notice how the free market only counts as valid only when it conforms to fantatical beliefs? But when the free market wants something they don't agree with, they need to resort to underhanded tactics to force their beliefs on others? It's truly sickening. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: seekingtruth said: It has everything to do with free market.
The fact that this city lacks the convenience of another pharmacy is in no way the responsibility of the one that does exist. I am sure that it is inconvenient to drive, but sometimes, that's life. If this inconvenience is causing enough demand, I am sure they could get another one in there. I used to live in a small town that only had a McDonald's; I had no right to be upset with Ronald that he would not sell me a Whopper. There is a big fuckin difference between an artery clogging fat drenched sandwhich, which frankly your body can live without, and birth control pills that actually help people to control their reproductive future. Surely you can see the staggering difference in the ramifications of only having one McDonalds that provides junk food and one pharmacy that provides healthcare services. The market has nothing to do with this. Pharmacists are in the business of providing patients with the services that their doctors have deemed necessary. They are not in the business to force their moral beliefs on others. Just because people are obsessed with other peoples eggs does not give them the right to take away or reduce someone's LEGAL choices and options. sorry sup, there are other alternatives for this individual...she can recieve her prescription via the mail... this is soo not a martyr issue.....and this issue is soo *not* life threatening.....to suggest that this pharmacists liscense should be revolked is a bit extreme.... she has options..... Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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sosgemini said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: There is a big fuckin difference between an artery clogging fat drenched sandwhich, which frankly your body can live without, and birth control pills that actually help people to control their reproductive future. Surely you can see the staggering difference in the ramifications of only having one McDonalds that provides junk food and one pharmacy that provides healthcare services. The market has nothing to do with this. Pharmacists are in the business of providing patients with the services that their doctors have deemed necessary. They are not in the business to force their moral beliefs on others. Just because people are obsessed with other peoples eggs does not give them the right to take away or reduce someone's LEGAL choices and options. sorry sup, there are other alternatives for this individual...she can recieve her prescription via the mail... this is soo not a martyr issue.....and this issue is soo *not* life threatening.....to suggest that this pharmacists liscense should be revolked is a bit extreme.... she has options..... It doesn't matter if her life is threatened. Her options should include being able to go to the local pharmacy to fill her legal prescription. This guys fucking morals don't belong in his performance of his job. You guys are out of your minds justifying this bullshit. His license as a provider of healthcare should be revoked if he cannot perform the services he's obligated to. Perhaps pharmacists are out of the scope of the hypocratic oath? Even so, as a person in the healthcare industry his job shouldn't be to make judgement calls. His job is to fill a legal prescription and if he can't or won't perform that job he doesn't deserve to have it. . [This message was edited Tue Aug 17 11:22:40 2004 by SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: sosgemini said: sorry sup, there are other alternatives for this individual...she can recieve her prescription via the mail... this is soo not a martyr issue.....and this issue is soo *not* life threatening.....to suggest that this pharmacists liscense should be revolked is a bit extreme.... she has options..... It doesn't matter if her life is threatened. Her options should include being able to go to the local pharmacy to fill her legal prescription. This guys fucking morals don't belong in his performance of his job. You guys are out of your minds justifying this bullshit. His license as a provider of healthcare should be revoked if he cannot perform the services he's obligated to. Perhaps pharmacists are out of the scope of the hypocratic oath? Even so, as a person in the healthcare industry his job shouldn't be to make judgement calls. His job is to fill a legal prescription and if he can't or won't perform that job he doesn't deserve to have it. baby, you are turning me on with your passion.... however, i still disagree....i am assuming this pharmacists are operating within the guidelines to which they are obligated to...that would be an interesting point to discover..... and while i respect your frustration...and i respect a womans right to choice..i also respect a individuals right *not* to participate in the process.... Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: sosgemini said: sorry sup, there are other alternatives for this individual...she can recieve her prescription via the mail... this is soo not a martyr issue.....and this issue is soo *not* life threatening.....to suggest that this pharmacists liscense should be revolked is a bit extreme.... she has options..... It doesn't matter if her life is threatened. Her options should include being able to go to the local pharmacy to fill her legal prescription. This guys fucking morals don't belong in his performance of his job. You guys are out of your minds justifying this bullshit. His license as a provider of healthcare should be revoked if he cannot perform the services he's obligated to. Perhaps pharmacists are out of the scope of the hypocratic oath? Even so, as a person in the healthcare industry his job shouldn't be to make judgement calls. His job is to fill a legal prescription and if he can't or won't perform that job he doesn't deserve to have it. . [This message was edited Tue Aug 17 11:22:40 2004 by SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy] Dude, nobody's justifying anything. It's just a fact that nothing can really be done since he's the owner. If it were my wife, she'd most certainly be pissed, because we use birth control too. I'd simply go the other route and make sure he gets none of my $$ in the future. | |
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sosgemini said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: It doesn't matter if her life is threatened. Her options should include being able to go to the local pharmacy to fill her legal prescription. This guys fucking morals don't belong in his performance of his job. You guys are out of your minds justifying this bullshit. His license as a provider of healthcare should be revoked if he cannot perform the services he's obligated to. Perhaps pharmacists are out of the scope of the hypocratic oath? Even so, as a person in the healthcare industry his job shouldn't be to make judgement calls. His job is to fill a legal prescription and if he can't or won't perform that job he doesn't deserve to have it. baby, you are turning me on with your passion.... however, i still disagree....i am assuming this pharmacists are operating within the guidelines to which they are obligated to...that would be an interesting point to discover..... and while i respect your frustration...and i respect a womans right to choice..i also respect a individuals right *not* to participate in the process.... I'm obviously ignorant on the actual requirements that a pharmacist holds in their profession. A doctor cannot simply deny service to someone because they are an atheist, or a racist or because they disagree with any other such moral stance. The decisions have already been made by the woman and her doctor. He is not involved in the decision process. He is in the profession of providing people with the medicine, medications etc that are deemed necessary by their doctors. Is birth control absolutely necessary and a life or death situation? No. But that shouldn't matter if the person has chosen to take their reproductive future in their own hands. I mean it is just appalling and sickening that right to lifers would rather deny birth control, which increases the chance that an unwanted pregnancy will occurr, which increases the likelyhood that an abortion will take place, rather than leave people be to make the choices that are right for their life. These people are mentally ill. If this guy doesn't want to participate in the process, he should quit. Leave, take up a cross and nail himself to it. In many cases these people will not even refer someone to another place that will provide the service! Why should a person be held hostage to someone's fanaticism? He said he's lost a lot of business so there is the market for the service! You guys are totally wrong on this. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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OdysseyMiles said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: It doesn't matter if her life is threatened. Her options should include being able to go to the local pharmacy to fill her legal prescription. This guys fucking morals don't belong in his performance of his job. You guys are out of your minds justifying this bullshit. His license as a provider of healthcare should be revoked if he cannot perform the services he's obligated to. Perhaps pharmacists are out of the scope of the hypocratic oath? Even so, as a person in the healthcare industry his job shouldn't be to make judgement calls. His job is to fill a legal prescription and if he can't or won't perform that job he doesn't deserve to have it. . [This message was edited Tue Aug 17 11:22:40 2004 by SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy] Dude, nobody's justifying anything. It's just a fact that nothing can really be done since he's the owner. If it were my wife, she'd most certainly be pissed, because we use birth control too. I'd simply go the other route and make sure he gets none of my $$ in the future. You are justifying it with this lame ass free market argument. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: sosgemini said: baby, you are turning me on with your passion.... however, i still disagree....i am assuming this pharmacists are operating within the guidelines to which they are obligated to...that would be an interesting point to discover..... and while i respect your frustration...and i respect a womans right to choice..i also respect a individuals right *not* to participate in the process.... I'm obviously ignorant on the actual requirements that a pharmacist holds in their profession. A doctor cannot simply deny service to someone because they are an atheist, or a racist or because they disagree with any other such moral stance. The decisions have already been made by the woman and her doctor. He is not involved in the decision process. He is in the profession of providing people with the medicine, medications etc that are deemed necessary by their doctors. Is birth control absolutely necessary and a life or death situation? No. But that shouldn't matter if the person has chosen to take their reproductive future in their own hands. I mean it is just appalling and sickening that right to lifers would rather deny birth control, which increases the chance that an unwanted pregnancy will occurr, which increases the likelyhood that an abortion will take place, rather than leave people be to make the choices that are right for their life. These people are mentally ill. If this guy doesn't want to participate in the process, he should quit. Leave, take up a cross and nail himself to it. In many cases these people will not even refer someone to another place that will provide the service! Why should a person be held hostage to someone's fanaticism? He said he's lost a lot of business so there is the market for the service! You guys are totally wrong on this. we are not living in the dark ages.....she can log onto her puter and find another pharmacy... and you know what would work? boycott him!!! thats an effective way that this community can respond to his decision.....but i still think he has the right to run his business the way he sees fit... Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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sosgemini said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I'm obviously ignorant on the actual requirements that a pharmacist holds in their profession. A doctor cannot simply deny service to someone because they are an atheist, or a racist or because they disagree with any other such moral stance. The decisions have already been made by the woman and her doctor. He is not involved in the decision process. He is in the profession of providing people with the medicine, medications etc that are deemed necessary by their doctors. Is birth control absolutely necessary and a life or death situation? No. But that shouldn't matter if the person has chosen to take their reproductive future in their own hands. I mean it is just appalling and sickening that right to lifers would rather deny birth control, which increases the chance that an unwanted pregnancy will occurr, which increases the likelyhood that an abortion will take place, rather than leave people be to make the choices that are right for their life. These people are mentally ill. If this guy doesn't want to participate in the process, he should quit. Leave, take up a cross and nail himself to it. In many cases these people will not even refer someone to another place that will provide the service! Why should a person be held hostage to someone's fanaticism? He said he's lost a lot of business so there is the market for the service! You guys are totally wrong on this. we are not living in the dark ages.....she can log onto her puter and find another pharmacy... and you know what would work? boycott him!!! thats an effective way that this community can respond to his decision.....but i still think he has the right to run his business the way he sees fit... If it was up to this guy, we would live in the dark ages. I agree, boycott his ass and revoke his license so he can't play terrorist with other peoples lives. BTW I did not know you could get prescriptions over the net. Does the ban on that only apply to narcotics?? . [This message was edited Tue Aug 17 11:56:14 2004 by SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Depending on your profession or the kind of store you run there are rules you have to follow, even if you are owner of the store. I don't know what a pharmacy-licence requires, but to me it would seem locig that it is required to supply all medication that is correctly prescribed by a doctor. "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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SpcMs said: Depending on your profession or the kind of store you run there are rules you have to follow, even if you are owner of the store. I don't know what a pharmacy-licence requires, but to me it would seem locig that it is required to supply all medication that is correctly prescribed by a doctor.
And that is the point I'm making! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: sosgemini said: we are not living in the dark ages.....she can log onto her puter and find another pharmacy... and you know what would work? boycott him!!! thats an effective way that this community can respond to his decision.....but i still think he has the right to run his business the way he sees fit... If it was up to this guy, we would live in the dark ages. I agree, boycott his ass and revoke his license so he can't play terrorist with other peoples lives. BTW I did not know you could get prescriptions over the net. Does the ban on that only apply to narcotics?? you can get presciptions via the net...and please dont be condescending...i still love ya, even if we disagree on this subject... Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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