Oh, I forgot...I used to try and videotape all the episodes of Star Trek: Next Generation and Star Trek: Voyager back in the '90s--my son was in LUV with Sevenofnine!

purplethunder3121 said:

onlyforaminute said:

I just read an article that states this seasons GoT is going to be a serious game changer, $10 million per episode is being spent. Which means other tv shows are going to be pushing that envelope even higher. So I do see services ramping it up because obviously enough people will keep paying for it. I've just hit my ceiling on paying for tv so I'm just going to have to make do. I'll just keep watching old ST shows, there's a lot of them. Orville is still free.

Yeah, but it's one thing paying for one site like Netflix to view stuff you wanna see on...and another to pay many sites to see what may be only one thing that you like on that one site/service... And I ain't gonna do it. I've never paid for cable TV or any other service besides Netflix to this day (and I quit paying for that a few years ago)...and I never will. I find a way to watch what I want to watch when I want to watch it.

That made me giggle so hard. If there is a will there is a way, still works.

Young Jeri Ryan on Who's the Boss

kpowers said:

Yeah, the woman I really wanted to hate but ended up really liking in the show. She was cool and played the hell out of that role.

onlyforaminute said:

kpowers said:

Yeah, the woman I really wanted to hate but ended up really liking in the show. She was cool and played the hell out of that role.

Why was that?

My favorite species are the Klingons and all their stuff. The culture, the looks, technology/ships, the mixed species, religion etc

Would a Star Trek show/movie that focuses on Klingons work?

https://www.amazon.com/St...B000FEBWTY

Are these just a different species of Klingon?

They look reptilian.

As one of Star Trek's most beloved alien races, the warriors known as Klingons have been redesigned a number times since they were first introduced in The Original Series.

The species has been updated yet again for Star Trek: Discovery—the latest chapter in the Star Trekfranchise—by the prominent prosthetics and creature makeup house Alchemy Studios, which helped bring the Klingons to life for modern audiences.

STREAM: Full Episodes Of Star Trek: Discovery On CBS All Access



"With the Klingons, it's got to be something that we've not seen before, yet you know it's a Klingon," Creature and Concept Designer Neville Page says in a new featurette detailing their process.

In order to achieve this massive undertaking, the studio used a combination of sculpting and 3D-printing techniques to hone in on a look that best suited their take on the species.

"They are very inspired by probably one of my favorite creature artists ever, H.R. Giger," Neville notes.

Watch the video above for more on how Alchemy reimagined the Klingons.



When it came to the new Klingon armor and ship designs, Alchemy took a highly detailed approach, drawing from both the old shows and real-life historical empires.

Regarding the intricate craftsmanship, Creature and Makeup Designer Glenn Hetrick explains, "We looked at pieces of costuming in the past, and tried to expand upon that ... It's Byzantine, it's Mongolian—when you're looking at it, it's very much Klingon, but it feels real."

"Anything that we do that is ornate, it has reference and relevance based on Klingon lore," Neville adds.



Hetrick continues, "The first time I saw [our] Klingons—the wardrobe, the makeup, and the ship—that synthesis of ideas, and shapes, and colors, it is absolutely awe-inspiring. I get goosebumps just thinking about it."

https://www.cbs.com/shows/star-trek-discovery/news/1007645/how-the-klingons-were-reimagined-for-star-trek--discovery/

kpowers said:

onlyforaminute said:

Yeah, the woman I really wanted to hate but ended up really liking in the show. She was cool and played the hell out of that role.

Why was that?

Because she was put in as eye candy and was supposedly overshadowing the other female characters for the most part and it was many years after that series aired I actually got to see it, so I went in with some preconceived ideas of what her role was. But as I said, I ended up really liking her despite the fact she was eye candy she also had a lot depth to her storyline.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Are these just a different species of Klingon?

They look reptilian.

How The Klingons Were Reimagined For Star Trek: Discovery

Learn how Alchemy Studios drew inspiration from previous series and ancient empires to create Discovery's iconic warrior race.

As one of Star Trek's most beloved alien races, the warriors known as Klingons have been redesigned a number times since they were first introduced in The Original Series.

The species has been updated yet again for Star Trek: Discovery—the latest chapter in the Star Trekfranchise—by the prominent prosthetics and creature makeup house Alchemy Studios, which helped bring the Klingons to life for modern audiences.

STREAM: Full Episodes Of Star Trek: Discovery On CBS All Access



"With the Klingons, it's got to be something that we've not seen before, yet you know it's a Klingon," Creature and Concept Designer Neville Page says in a new featurette detailing their process.

In order to achieve this massive undertaking, the studio used a combination of sculpting and 3D-printing techniques to hone in on a look that best suited their take on the species.

"They are very inspired by probably one of my favorite creature artists ever, H.R. Giger," Neville notes.

Watch the video above for more on how Alchemy reimagined the Klingons.



When it came to the new Klingon armor and ship designs, Alchemy took a highly detailed approach, drawing from both the old shows and real-life historical empires.

Regarding the intricate craftsmanship, Creature and Makeup Designer Glenn Hetrick explains, "We looked at pieces of costuming in the past, and tried to expand upon that ... It's Byzantine, it's Mongolian—when you're looking at it, it's very much Klingon, but it feels real."

"Anything that we do that is ornate, it has reference and relevance based on Klingon lore," Neville adds.



Hetrick continues, "The first time I saw [our] Klingons—the wardrobe, the makeup, and the ship—that synthesis of ideas, and shapes, and colors, it is absolutely awe-inspiring. I get goosebumps just thinking about it."

https://www.cbs.com/shows/star-trek-discovery/news/1007645/how-the-klingons-were-reimagined-for-star-trek--discovery/

Their new concept looks fine IF it were another scifi, but it makes it harder explaining her existance.


Of course the whole concept of humaniods interbreeding in the ST uni seems really off when you think about too much.

SMH

OldFriends4Sale said:

Are these just a different species of Klingon?

They look reptilian.

How The Klingons Were Reimagined For Star Trek: Discovery

Learn how Alchemy Studios drew inspiration from previous series and ancient empires to create Discovery's iconic warrior race.

As one of Star Trek's most beloved alien races, the warriors known as Klingons have been redesigned a number times since they were first introduced in The Original Series.

The species has been updated yet again for Star Trek: Discovery—the latest chapter in the Star Trekfranchise—by the prominent prosthetics and creature makeup house Alchemy Studios, which helped bring the Klingons to life for modern audiences.

STREAM: Full Episodes Of Star Trek: Discovery On CBS All Access



"With the Klingons, it's got to be something that we've not seen before, yet you know it's a Klingon," Creature and Concept Designer Neville Page says in a new featurette detailing their process.

In order to achieve this massive undertaking, the studio used a combination of sculpting and 3D-printing techniques to hone in on a look that best suited their take on the species.

"They are very inspired by probably one of my favorite creature artists ever, H.R. Giger," Neville notes.

Watch the video above for more on how Alchemy reimagined the Klingons.



When it came to the new Klingon armor and ship designs, Alchemy took a highly detailed approach, drawing from both the old shows and real-life historical empires.

Regarding the intricate craftsmanship, Creature and Makeup Designer Glenn Hetrick explains, "We looked at pieces of costuming in the past, and tried to expand upon that ... It's Byzantine, it's Mongolian—when you're looking at it, it's very much Klingon, but it feels real."

"Anything that we do that is ornate, it has reference and relevance based on Klingon lore," Neville adds.



Hetrick continues, "The first time I saw [our] Klingons—the wardrobe, the makeup, and the ship—that synthesis of ideas, and shapes, and colors, it is absolutely awe-inspiring. I get goosebumps just thinking about it."

https://www.cbs.com/shows/star-trek-discovery/news/1007645/how-the-klingons-were-reimagined-for-star-trek--discovery/

They look more Stargate then Star Trek

kpowers said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Are these just a different species of Klingon?

They look reptilian.

How The Klingons Were Reimagined For Star Trek: Discovery

Learn how Alchemy Studios drew inspiration from previous series and ancient empires to create Discovery's iconic warrior race.

As one of Star Trek's most beloved alien races, the warriors known as Klingons have been redesigned a number times since they were first introduced in The Original Series.

The species has been updated yet again for Star Trek: Discovery—the latest chapter in the Star Trekfranchise—by the prominent prosthetics and creature makeup house Alchemy Studios, which helped bring the Klingons to life for modern audiences.

STREAM: Full Episodes Of Star Trek: Discovery On CBS All Access



"With the Klingons, it's got to be something that we've not seen before, yet you know it's a Klingon," Creature and Concept Designer Neville Page says in a new featurette detailing their process.

In order to achieve this massive undertaking, the studio used a combination of sculpting and 3D-printing techniques to hone in on a look that best suited their take on the species.

"They are very inspired by probably one of my favorite creature artists ever, H.R. Giger," Neville notes.

Watch the video above for more on how Alchemy reimagined the Klingons.



When it came to the new Klingon armor and ship designs, Alchemy took a highly detailed approach, drawing from both the old shows and real-life historical empires.

Regarding the intricate craftsmanship, Creature and Makeup Designer Glenn Hetrick explains, "We looked at pieces of costuming in the past, and tried to expand upon that ... It's Byzantine, it's Mongolian—when you're looking at it, it's very much Klingon, but it feels real."

"Anything that we do that is ornate, it has reference and relevance based on Klingon lore," Neville adds.



Hetrick continues, "The first time I saw [our] Klingons—the wardrobe, the makeup, and the ship—that synthesis of ideas, and shapes, and colors, it is absolutely awe-inspiring. I get goosebumps just thinking about it."

https://www.cbs.com/shows/star-trek-discovery/news/1007645/how-the-klingons-were-reimagined-for-star-trek--discovery/

They look more Stargate then Star Trek

LOL now that you mentioned it. It Does!

onlyforaminute said:

kpowers said:

They look more Stargate then Star Trek

LOL now that you mentioned it. It Does!

OldFriends4Sale said:

Are these just a different species of Klingon?

They look reptilian.

How The Klingons Were Reimagined For Star Trek: Discovery

on TNG there was this rather silly epsisode 'Genesis' where everyone turned into some prior evolutionary form/species, already then Worf turned into some reptilian creature




anyway the new design is stupid.
after many yearfs and decades they finally explained the morphing and different appearances of Klingons over various films and series in Enterprise within canon, and now poof!! same problem all over again

Dancelot said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Are these just a different species of Klingon?

They look reptilian.

How The Klingons Were Reimagined For Star Trek: Discovery

on TNG there was this rather silly epsisode 'Genesis' where everyone turned into some prior evolutionary form/species, already then Worf turned into some reptilian creature




anyway the new design is stupid.
after many yearfs and decades they finally explained the morphing and different appearances of Klingons over various films and series in Enterprise within canon, and now poof!! same problem all over again

Yeah I don't like the way they look. Nothing special about this look.

purplethunder3121 said:

onlyforaminute said:

LOL now that you mentioned it. It Does!

OldFriends4Sale said:

Dancelot said:

on TNG there was this rather silly epsisode 'Genesis' where everyone turned into some prior evolutionary form/species, already then Worf turned into some reptilian creature




anyway the new design is stupid.
after many yearfs and decades they finally explained the morphing and different appearances of Klingons over various films and series in Enterprise within canon, and now poof!! same problem all over again

Yeah I don't like the way they look. Nothing special about this look.

Not supposed to

kpowers said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yeah I don't like the way they look. Nothing special about this look.

Not supposed to

Well I think that they changed the look was ment to be something kinda special. It is definately an interesting look. Almost like a different species of Klingon, but I love my Klingons with hair

OldFriends4Sale said:

kpowers said:

Not supposed to

Well I think that they changed the look was ment to be something kinda special. It is definately an interesting look. Almost like a different species of Klingon, but I love my Klingons with hair

The Klingons only needed to be changed one time, from what they look liked from the original series

To the new look from the motion picture, which was pretty much how they look through out the decades

Star trek Enterprise did a good job in explaining the obivious differences

kpowers said:

Star trek Enterprise did a good job in explaining the obivious differences

that's what I said. though until Enterprise, for many many years, I was perfectly happy with the explanation given by Worf in the DS9 tribbles episode:
"We do not discuss it with outsiders."

I just loved that




it was the first time withiin ST the inconsistency was acknowledged and "explained". simple and short. and that was good enough for me

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I agree

kpowers said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Well I think that they changed the look was ment to be something kinda special. It is definately an interesting look. Almost like a different species of Klingon, but I love my Klingons with hair

The Klingons only needed to be changed one time, from what they look liked from the original series

To the new look from the motion picture, which was pretty much how they look through out the decades

Star trek Enterprise did a good job in explaining the obivious differences

Ok finished Star Trek Voyager (onto season 1 of Discovery). First I'm glad Janeway and Chakotay never hooked up. So sick of fans wanting them to. I also didn't want Scully and Mulder to hook up. Millions of men and women work together and never hook up but on TV it's like 99.99999999999% they do.

Now since the show was coming to an end some felt that Seven and Chakotay relationship was rushed. Maybe but I was ok with it. It kinda let you know that once they got back to Earth they would start a relationship.

Welp, got my 1st season of DSC, hopefully I'll start it this weekend.

Like all the Fan Collective DVD collections, the Klingons set is fantastic. Even though we have all the individual complete series on DVD, I found the Fan Collective sets real cheap a few years ago and the wife and I love having them if we're in the mood for Q or Time Travel, etc. It's cool having them all together. She was just talking about watching the Borg set again earlier this evening actually


Although I enjoy Discivery very much, I do have some serious issues with it and the changes for the klingons is high on that list. Completely unnecesary, unwanted and unsuccessful. Still a good show though.

Haven't picked up season 1 on bluray yet. Was hoping it would be under the tree Tuesday, but no such luck. Looking forward to season 2 and iirc, The Orville returns this Sunday!!

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[Edited 12/28/18 5:57am]

Is that DS9????