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Reply #90 posted 06/11/18 9:47am

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Depression, for many, is not a temporary problem...but death comes to us all, sooner or later. The trick is to try to find value in this life and a reason to continue on and not rush to what is a permanent end.

It's not a temporary problem, it doesn't go just go away. There might be good days but sometimes the bad days out number the good...well..a lot of the time.

I often wonder if the ones who commit suicide, like my grandmother thinks of the ones that will be left behind? Because I know my Grandma wouldn't want to leave the devistation that she did for her grandkids. If they would just think of their loved ones then maybe she wouldn't have done it.


32 years later and I'm still really mad at her. She missed out on so much and it was by her own doing and that makes me mad.


She also made us miss out on so much.

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Reply #91 posted 06/11/18 9:48am

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2045RadicalMattZ said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

He loved Sid.

Did not know this....

I thought most people knew Sid Vicious was a moron.

Either way, this adds something else (possibly) to a motive. If directed at Bourdain (and not in praise of Bourdain somehow... if he was known as a Sid Vicious of the culinary show) this would be a direct link. Heartbroken guy, replaced for younger lookalike (somewhat)... possibility.

Some people dont like being made an ass of. Could that have been the last straw? Any details on that?

Have you read the rest of the thread yet?

My guess is that may have been his shirt.

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Reply #92 posted 06/11/18 9:48am

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poppys said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Depression, for many, is not a temporary problem...but death comes to us all, sooner or later. The trick is to try to find value in this life and a reason to continue on and not rush to what is a permanent end.


I'm not saying I agree with the meme or not but there's a good discussion around it.

Something similar I've said before about suicide is you're going to die anyway. Comes with the birth certificate. Not sure if people in that state consider it that way. Think it's ending the pain in their life more than wanting death.

I agree with you. The part that is hard is trying to convince people in that state of mind that there IS still something worth living for...and that if they just hang on a little longer, the burden will lighten. (And I'm not talking about people who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness and don't have long to live--that's a different issue).

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Reply #93 posted 06/11/18 9:51am

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purplethunder3121 said:

poppys said:


I'm not saying I agree with the meme or not but there's a good discussion around it.

Something similar I've said before about suicide is you're going to die anyway. Comes with the birth certificate. Not sure if people in that state consider it that way. Think it's ending the pain in their life more than wanting death.

I agree with you. The part that is hard is trying to convince people in that state of mind that there IS still something worth living for...and that if they just hang on a little longer, the burden will lighten. (And I'm not talking about people who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness and don't have long to live--that's a different issue).

Agree.

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Reply #94 posted 06/11/18 9:53am

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This is the little girl that will suffer from it.

Our little girl had her concert today. She was amazing. So strong and brave. She wore the boots you bought her. I hope you are having a good trip, wherever you are.
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  • ottaviabourdainOur little girl had her concert today. She was amazing. So strong and brave. She wore the boots you bought her. I hope you are having a good trip, wherever you are.
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Reply #95 posted 06/11/18 9:56am

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^^ OUCH!

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Reply #96 posted 06/11/18 9:57am

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PennyPurple said:

This is the little girl that will suffer from it.

Our little girl had her concert today. She was amazing. So strong and brave. She wore the boots you bought her. I hope you are having a good trip, wherever you are.
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  • ottaviabourdainOur little girl had her concert today. She was amazing. So strong and brave. She wore the boots you bought her. I hope you are having a good trip, wherever you are.
© 2018 Instagram

I feel bad for her; I hope she has a good supportive community in her life...

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Reply #97 posted 06/11/18 10:05am

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poppys said:

2045RadicalMattZ said:

Did not know this....

I thought most people knew Sid Vicious was a moron.

Either way, this adds something else (possibly) to a motive. If directed at Bourdain (and not in praise of Bourdain somehow... if he was known as a Sid Vicious of the culinary show) this would be a direct link. Heartbroken guy, replaced for younger lookalike (somewhat)... possibility.

Some people dont like being made an ass of. Could that have been the last straw? Any details on that?

Have you read the rest of the thread yet?

My guess is that may have been his shirt.

I think if it were his shirt it would be a size too big for Asia to wear.

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Reply #98 posted 06/11/18 10:06am

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Then there's this, poor Mom. bawl

https://www.nytimes.com/2...-dead.html

His mother, Gladys Bourdain, who was a longtime editor at The New York Times, said she had no indication that Mr. Bourdain might have been thinking of suicide. “He is absolutely the last person in the world I would have ever dreamed would do something like this,” Ms. Bourdain said.

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Reply #99 posted 06/11/18 10:11am

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poppys said:

Have you read the rest of the thread yet?

My guess is that may have been his shirt.

I think if it were his shirt it would be a size too big for Asia to wear.

Ok. She is not the focus of this thread anyway.

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Reply #100 posted 06/11/18 10:13am

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poppys said:

2045RadicalMattZ said:

Did not know this....

I thought most people knew Sid Vicious was a moron.

Either way, this adds something else (possibly) to a motive. If directed at Bourdain (and not in praise of Bourdain somehow... if he was known as a Sid Vicious of the culinary show) this would be a direct link. Heartbroken guy, replaced for younger lookalike (somewhat)... possibility.

Some people dont like being made an ass of. Could that have been the last straw? Any details on that?

Have you read the rest of the thread yet?

My guess is that may have been his shirt.

Yes I have... and some very very speculative and possibly insane reddit threads (insane or on the spot)... rabbit hole stuff... for a guy who toured the world, who did various drugs, etc etc.

It's a lot to think of. I will just observe... I have no horse in this...

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Reply #101 posted 06/11/18 10:14am

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poppys said:

Then there's this, poor Mom.

https://www.nytimes.com/2...-dead.html

His mother, Gladys Bourdain, who was a longtime editor at The New York Times, said she had no indication that Mr. Bourdain might have been thinking of suicide. “He is absolutely the last person in the world I would have ever dreamed would do something like this,” Ms. Bourdain said.


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It's heartbreaking.


I'm actually wondering if it wasn't suicide. I haven't heard of any note being left. Could it be a sexual thing, like David Carradine died of?

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Reply #102 posted 06/11/18 10:17am

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poppys said:

Have you read the rest of the thread yet?

My guess is that may have been his shirt.

Yes I have... and some very very speculative and possibly insane reddit threads (insane or on the spot)... rabbit hole stuff... for a guy who toured the world, who did various drugs, etc etc.

It's a lot to think of. I will just observe... I have no horse in this...


Yeah, it's a mess. Everyone is processing. You are welcome to post anytime you want here. Did not mean to cut you off.

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Reply #103 posted 06/11/18 10:21am

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PennyPurple said:

poppys said:

Then there's this, poor Mom. bawl

https://www.nytimes.com/2...-dead.html

His mother, Gladys Bourdain, who was a longtime editor at The New York Times, said she had no indication that Mr. Bourdain might have been thinking of suicide. “He is absolutely the last person in the world I would have ever dreamed would do something like this,” Ms. Bourdain said.


It's heartbreaking.


I'm actually wondering if it wasn't suicide. I haven't heard of any note being left. Could it be a sexual thing, like David Carradine died of?


Somebody said that early in the thread. IDK. Maybe more will come out in the investigation. Not sure if they could determine that as a fact or not. Nothing has been said about a note that I see, but the investigation is in France. Don't know their protocol. The news this am said they are waiting on toxicology and then he will come back to the States.

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Reply #104 posted 06/11/18 10:37am

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poppys said:

PennyPurple said:

It's heartbreaking.


I'm actually wondering if it wasn't suicide. I haven't heard of any note being left. Could it be a sexual thing, like David Carradine died of?


Somebody said that early in the thread. IDK. Maybe more will come out in the investigation. Not sure if they could determine that as a fact or not. Nothing has been said about a note that I see, but the investigation is in France. Don't know their protocol. The news this am said they are waiting on toxicology and then he will come back to the States.

[Edited 6/11/18 10:33am]

I wonder how long the toxicology will take?

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Reply #105 posted 06/11/18 10:41am

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PennyPurple said:

poppys said:


Somebody said that early in the thread. IDK. Maybe more will come out in the investigation. Not sure if they could determine that as a fact or not. Nothing has been said about a note that I see, but the investigation is in France. Don't know their protocol. The news this am said they are waiting on toxicology and then he will come back to the States.


I wonder how long the toxicology will take?

They said a few days if that is correct, guess they are faster than US.

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Reply #106 posted 06/11/18 10:59am

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I don´t know what to make of all this but this Rolling Stone article is quite informative;

https://www.rollingstone....de-w521378

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Reply #107 posted 06/11/18 11:49am

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KoolEaze said:

I don´t know what to make of all this but this Rolling Stone article is quite informative;

https://www.rollingstone....de-w521378

If I remember correctly, McGowan has had her own battles with depression (correct me if I'm wrong). But, she is right--it was Bourdain's choice and cannot be blamed on his partner, who, it appears, also suffers from the illness. It also seems like Bourdain wanted to be self-sufficient and didn't reach out for help when he most needed it (from the article).

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Reply #108 posted 06/11/18 12:19pm

purplefam99

This article about Anthony was interesting especially in relation to Prince
And number 5 on the list. I believe some here speculated about Prince
Maybe having this disorder. Apparently Anthony self diagnosed himself
With narsassitic personality disorder.

https://www.yahoo.com/lif..._test=2_02
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“If you do not trust that you can depend on people for love, for caring, connection, you're going to have to soothe yourself some other way. You can soothe yourself with narcissism, you can soothe yourself with a drug addiction.”
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Reply #109 posted 06/11/18 12:32pm

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KoolEaze said:



poppys said:




2045RadicalMattZ said:



Did not know this....

I thought most people knew Sid Vicious was a moron.

Either way, this adds something else (possibly) to a motive. If directed at Bourdain (and not in praise of Bourdain somehow... if he was known as a Sid Vicious of the culinary show) this would be a direct link. Heartbroken guy, replaced for younger lookalike (somewhat)... possibility.

Some people dont like being made an ass of. Could that have been the last straw? Any details on that?



Have you read the rest of the thread yet?

My guess is that may have been his shirt.



I think if it were his shirt it would be a size too big for Asia to wear.




Are the rips in the shirt fashion or indicative of something else?
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Reply #110 posted 06/11/18 12:40pm

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purplefam99 said:

KoolEaze said:

I think if it were his shirt it would be a size too big for Asia to wear.

Are the rips in the shirt fashion or indicative of something else?

It's a punk rock thing.

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Reply #111 posted 06/11/18 12:42pm

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poppys said:



purplefam99 said:


KoolEaze said:


I think if it were his shirt it would be a size too big for Asia to wear.



Are the rips in the shirt fashion or indicative of something else?

It's a punk rock thing.




Yep that is what I was assuming.
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Reply #112 posted 06/11/18 1:02pm

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KoolEaze said:

I don´t know what to make of all this but this Rolling Stone article is quite informative;

https://www.rollingstone....de-w521378


Oh jay-sus. Rose McGowan is a drama grabber and Rolling Stone loves the click bait. Bourdain's death is not about Argento or McGowan or Harvey Fucking Weinstein, it's about Anthony Bourdain. But she managed to glom it all in there. Argento requested privacy, now we're told Rose was asked to write that. Most of it is about them, not Anthony Bourdain. Not even one personal story or remembrance of him from Rose.

Personally, I don't need to know how old McGowan's father was when he died right now. And the line about Argento going to work to put food on her children's table - according to wiki she's worth 16 million. It chaps me when rich people talk about needing to feed their children, like they live hand to mouth. Shut up already.

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Reply #113 posted 06/11/18 1:27pm

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Healthy people take their live on impulse...if only they would wait untl the next day!

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Reply #114 posted 06/11/18 1:41pm

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purplethunder3121 said:


Healthy people take their live on impulse...if only they would wait untl the next day!


Or go to dinner. He isolated. One of his best friends was in the same building. Whatever happened, including an external trigger, it would probably have been less horrible if he told somebody. He went for it as they say. I feel sorry for the hotel too. What a bummer to be that place.


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Reply #115 posted 06/11/18 2:06pm

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how come that fine ass he was tappin didnt help him or cheer him up

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Reply #116 posted 06/11/18 2:30pm

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luvsexy4all said:

how come that fine ass he was tappin didnt help him or cheer him up

Same question, different guy...??

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Reply #117 posted 06/11/18 2:37pm

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purplefam99 said:

luvsexy4all said:

how come that fine ass he was tappin didnt help him or cheer him up

Same question, different guy...??

?? im talkin argento...

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Reply #118 posted 06/11/18 2:50pm

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poppys said:

KoolEaze said:

I don´t know what to make of all this but this Rolling Stone article is quite informative;

https://www.rollingstone....de-w521378


Oh jay-sus. Rose McGowan is a drama grabber and Rolling Stone loves the click bait. Bourdain's death is not about Argento or McGowan or Harvey Fucking Weinstein, it's about Anthony Bourdain. But she managed to glom it all in there. Argento requested privacy, now we're told Rose was asked to write that. Most of it is about them, not Anthony Bourdain. Not even one personal story or remembrance of him from Rose.

Personally, I don't need to know how old McGowan's father was when he died right now. And the line about Argento going to work to put food on her children's table - according to wiki she's worth 16 million. It chaps me when rich people talk about needing to feed their children, like they live hand to mouth. Shut up already.

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Oh, I absolutely agree with you that they both make it about themselves rather than about Tony.

I just thought it´s still an article that might be interesting to some.

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Reply #119 posted 06/11/18 3:22pm

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maybe his suicide is a reaction to open relationships

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