kitbradley said:

phunkdaddy said:

kitbradley said:

I have to do something. I refuse to join spotify or whatever else is out there and pay a monthly fee to listen to music I already own.

You can join Spotify for free and listen to music for free. With your mobile phone you're limited to only shuffle play with 4 skips. With your tablet or home computer you can listen to albums in its entirety straight through or any song anyway you want. Also free Spotify you're subjected to commercials. To go commercial free or shuffle free with your mobile phone it will cost you 7.99 a month. Free works just fine for me.

The days of me listening or watch commercials really for anything are over. Yes, I blame the Internet for my evolving short attention span. Seriously.

I can't deal with commercials I need total control of what I want to listen to, when I wanna hear a song, and the freedom to create my own playllist. My brothers subs to Spodify, I'm not impressed at all.

TD3 said:

domainator2010 said:

on a WHAT connected to the Internet?

...and on that note, check out this:

www.mediagoblin.org

Tell everyone about it!!

I though I mentioned this before...

You can either purchase a NAS server, that's gonna cost you about $300 plus a year to run 24/7. Or you can purchase a Singal Board Computer, connect a 2gb or more HDD/SSD to the S.B.C. vie USB ports. Yo uconnect S.B.C to your home router Ethernet port. You can setup was your S.B.C streams to upteem ways.

My setup , ODROID xu4 is connected to my home router via Ethernet, I can access movies and music. via my iPad, iPod & iPhone. I have Raspberr Pi on every TV in our home, I can stream movies/movies to those TV's as well. In my case I have two ODROID XU4's running as medai servers & Raspberry Pi running as a cloud sever.

examples: https://www.youtube.com/w...dqJ_vgLGjI

examples: https://www.youtube.com/w...wNDOzthNIg This is what I have connected to my router. To see those servers move video time line 2:48

Oh for God's sake - what are trying to DO? What is it that you want to ACCOMPLISH? You want to listen to YOUR music over the Internet?

domainator2010 said:

TD3 said:

I though I mentioned this before...

You can either purchase a NAS server, that's gonna cost you about $300 plus a year to run 24/7. Or you can purchase a Singal Board Computer, connect a 2gb or more HDD/SSD to the S.B.C. vie USB ports. Yo uconnect S.B.C to your home router Ethernet port. You can setup was your S.B.C streams to upteem ways.

My setup , ODROID xu4 is connected to my home router via Ethernet, I can access movies and music. via my iPad, iPod & iPhone. I have Raspberr Pi on every TV in our home, I can stream movies/movies to those TV's as well. In my case I have two ODROID XU4's running as medai servers & Raspberry Pi running as a cloud sever.

examples: https://www.youtube.com/w...dqJ_vgLGjI

examples: https://www.youtube.com/w...wNDOzthNIg This is what I have connected to my router. To see those servers move video time line 2:48

Oh for God's sake - what are trying to DO? What is it that you want to ACCOMPLISH? You want to listen to YOUR music over the Internet?

You're the one who's making as if what's been talked about is rocket science. Why is this?

Yes, you will be streaming this over the internet.... if a server is connect to router and you can access the data via your phone, computer and/or tablet. I think that's call streaming, no? Good-grief.

phunkdaddy said:

kitbradley said:

I have to do something. I refuse to join spotify or whatever else is out there and pay a monthly fee to listen to music I already own.

You can join Spotify for free and listen to music for free. With your mobile phone you're limited to only shuffle play with 4 skips. With your tablet or home computer you can listen to albums in its entirety straight through or any song anyway you want. Also free Spotify you're subjected to commercials. To go commercial free or shuffle free with your mobile phone it will cost you 7.99 a month. Free works just fine for me.

the objection I have about that is I'm assuming when you say I can listen to spodify for free, you're talking about their radio? So, if I'm in the mood to listen to say, Janet Jackson, the system will play Janet Jackson and artists they consider to be similar. which means I will be subjected people like Beyonce and Rhianna. Neither one of these artist I have ZERO desire to listen to.

The thing I love about Google Play Music, when I'm listening to music, especially when I'm driving in my car, I have 100% control over what I'm listening to. The system does not choose for me unless I'm listening to their radio shuffle. I don't have to listen to Beyonce, Rhianna or Rick James' "Super Freak" for the twelvth million time. Everything I listen to is from my own personal music collection. I would lose that ability with Spodify. Yes?

[Edited 5/11/18 13:21pm]

TD3 said:

domainator2010 said:

Oh for God's sake - what are trying to DO? What is it that you want to ACCOMPLISH? You want to listen to YOUR music over the Internet?

You're the one who's making as if what's been talked about is rocket science. Why is this?

Yes, you will be streaming this over the internet.... if a server is connect to router and you can access the data via your phone, computer and/or tablet. I think that's call streaming, no? Good-grief.

I'm failing to understand why he or she can't just put their music (MP3 files) ONTO the phone...?!! Surely Android has an MP3 player?? (dont' use smartphones myself).

kitbradley said:

phunkdaddy said:

kitbradley said: You can join Spotify for free and listen to music for free. With your mobile phone you're limited to only shuffle play with 4 skips. With your tablet or home computer you can listen to albums in its entirety straight through or any song anyway you want. Also free Spotify you're subjected to commercials. To go commercial free or shuffle free with your mobile phone it will cost you 7.99 a month. Free works just fine for me.

the objection I have about that is I'm assuming when you say I can listen to spodify for free, you're talking about their radio? So, if I'm in the mood to listen to say, Janet Jackson, the system will play Janet Jackson and artists they consider to be similar. which means I will be subjected people like Beyonce and Rhianna. Neither one of these artist I have ZERO desire to listen to.

The thing I love about Google Play Music, when I'm listening to music, especially when I'm driving in my car, I have 100% control over what I'm listening to. The system does not choose for me unless I'm listening to their radio shuffle. I don't have to listen to Beyonce, Rhianna or Rick James' "Super Freak" for the twelvth million time. Everything I listen to is from my own personal music collection. I would lose that ability with Spodify. Yes?

Bingo! Though domainator appears to not understand this concept ( I'm missing with you ): Setup up your own music and/or media server and you are in total control your shit, for "free". Its 2018 and these assholes are still attempting control how people wanna listen to their music.

domainator2010 said:

TD3 said:

You're the one who's making as if what's been talked about is rocket science. Why is this?

Yes, you will be streaming this over the internet.... if a server is connect to router and you can access the data via your phone, computer and/or tablet. I think that's call streaming, no? Good-grief.

I'm failing to understand why he or she can't just put their music (MP3 files) ONTO the phone...?!! Surely Android has an MP3 player?? (dont' use smartphones myself).

Know I do other things with my smartphone, media gobbles a whole lot of space. I love the fact my music is ion a server and on my own cloud sever; nextcloud.

TD3 said:

domainator2010 said:

I'm failing to understand why he or she can't just put their music (MP3 files) ONTO the phone...?!! Surely Android has an MP3 player?? (dont' use smartphones myself).

Know I do other things with my smartphone, media gobbles a whole lot of space. I love the fact my music is ion a server and on my own cloud sever; nextcloud.

Maybe an SD card would be the solution....? The biggest ones today are 256 gigs, if I'm correct - that's a WHOLE lot of MP3s...?!! It's highly likely his/her entire music collection will fit into one..?

domainator2010 said:

There ya go - thank you!

domainator2010 said:

TD3 said:

Know I do other things with my smartphone, media gobbles a whole lot of space. I love the fact my music is ion a server and on my own cloud sever; nextcloud.

Maybe an SD card would be the solution....? The biggest ones today are 256 gigs, if I'm correct - that's a WHOLE lot of MP3s...?!! It's highly likely his/her entire music collection will fit into one..?

NOPE. I have 5,850 albums/CD's on my HDD, plus up-team different mixed play-list I've created over a decade. SD cards fail rates are high. SD cards can't stand the wear or tear of someone who access their media constantly. As I mentioned we are audiophiles... you won't hardware that's reliable, and can sustain long-term play and use. Putting music on a SD card is nothing short of play Russian roulette. Besides, music files aren't MP3 fiels, all of my music are Flac files.

Either you go with the classic data sever, NAS with a Cloud option with several HDD's or you can go with a single board computer attached to a HDD/SSD. Or you could go with some of the mediaplayers that allow to access your media via you computer to your smartphone or tablet.

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[Edited 5/14/18 6:17am]

..it just occurs to me that if Orgers take your advice, there's gonna be a whole lot of people, all uploading the same songs to some server....that's a lot of Wasted Drive Space. Isn't there some way that ONE person can upload his or her collection, and subsequent people can upload only the part of theirs that's not already there, to avoid duplication....?

I'm just trying to Optimise things....

However - this may be illegal of course, for obvious reasons.

Btw - is this NExtcloud thing conceptually the same thing as Dropbox? ..just took a cursory look.

domainator2010 said:

..it just occurs to me that if Orgers take your advice, there's gonna be a whole lot of people, all uploading the same songs to some server....that's a lot of Wasted Drive Space. Isn't there some way that ONE person can upload his or her collection, and subsequent people can upload only the part of theirs that's not already there, to avoid duplication....?

I'm just trying to Optimise things....

However - this may be illegal of course, for obvious reasons.

Btw - is this NExtcloud thing conceptually the same thing as Dropbox? ..just took a cursory look.

In the United State ripping ones music or moving ones music files to another device isn't illegal. Ripping movies and moving them to a server or to Kodi, Plex, OwnCloud, Nextcloud, is illegal. Yet people have ripped their movie collection as I've done Just like people continue to rip Youtube videos of all sorts. I doubt the F.B.I. is going to kick down my door or anyone else because we've ripped movies to Kodi / media server.

As far a creating duplicaste that's a moot point. If you already have a percentage of you music ripped to mp3 or flac, all you do is move connect your servers HDD/SDD to you computer and move the files. . There's an application within iTunes already you can find duplicates and remove them, then move the music folder from iTunes to a HDD/SSD. At that there's free software to tag your music ( name, year, and artist) organize it and check for duplicates. You have your music on a central HDD / SDD to access it anywhere at anytime. You have your music in a central location, you aren't hoggin space on your computer or devices.

https://is.gd/bwNaQb

...and THIS is the news today! :

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/...ences.html

Oops sorry - didn't see the thread above ^.

[Edited 5/17/18 23:45pm]

Bloody hell!!! That's what I was afraid of.

"Taking customers away from their existing streaming music service is tough. Consumers have established playlists and music libraries, for example, which means they need to start fresh when they begin a new service."

[Edited 5/18/18 7:16am]