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Thread started 04/26/18 9:44am

kitbradley

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YouTube Remix could mean the end of Google Play Music

Shit! I have hundreds of my CDs uploaded into Google's music locker system. Now, I run the risk of losing all of that. Another reason why I will never get rid of my CDs.

Google will reportedly shutter Google Play Music as part of a long-rumored audio and video cleanup. According to Droidlife, the subscription streaming service — a rival to Spotify, Apple Music and others — will be replaced by YouTube Remix later this year. The new offering will reportedly offer both on-demand music and video clips sourced from YouTube. In short, it'll be Play Music and YouTube Music (the fate of which is still unclear) mashed together. YouTube Remix has been teased since mid-2017 and was slated for a March 2018 release by Bloomberg last December. (Obviously, that didn't happen.) Droidlife is now reporting that Google Play Music users will be forced to migrate by the end of 2018.

The death of Google Play Music will be a disappointment to some. It's a capable service with smart, personalized playlists, a decent web interface, and a "locker" system for streaming your personal library. The latter feature is quite rare — Amazon is ending its equivalent service, leaving Apple Music as the only realistic alternative. For diehard record collectors, this could be a huge problem if Google decides to axe its own locker system with the introduction of YouTube Remix. Still, the rumored app is (another) opportunity for Google to simplify its music and video services. It's unclear, though, if that will be enough to close the gap with Spotify.

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Reply #1 posted 04/26/18 1:22pm

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And that is why I keep physical CDs and back up my digital files on an external HD.

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Reply #2 posted 04/29/18 6:31am

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What exactly is Google Play? Do you buy stuff from it, or do you store your *own* MP3s or whatever, on to it?

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Reply #3 posted 04/29/18 7:25am

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I'm almost certain Org members are audiophiles, music lovers. Whether you purchase physical formats and/or digital,l its times to setup and create your on in-home streaming system, that can be accessed via your compute, phone, tablet, and TV. People won't be held hostage to these types of services. Google Play is going to be killed, you'll have to pony up a paid sub from know on.

luv4u has been kind to create a sticky for Tech: As I attempt to get my shit together... I'll talk about how to can take your current collection, rip it, calibrate CD, MP3, Vinyl sound, and put on a Single Board Computer and connect to your router. No, its not complicated. More and more free streaming music are being squeezed out.

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Reply #4 posted 04/30/18 10:32am

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domainator2010 said:

What exactly is Google Play? Do you buy stuff from it, or do you store your *own* MP3s or whatever, on to it?



Both!
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Reply #5 posted 04/30/18 10:35am

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TD3 said:

I'm almost certain Org members are audiophiles, music lovers. Whether you purchase physical formats and/or digital,l its times to setup and create your on in-home streaming system, that can be accessed via your compute, phone, tablet, and TV. People won't be held hostage to these types of services. Google Play is going to be killed, you'll have to pony up a paid sub from know on.



luv4u has been kind to create a sticky for Tech: As I attempt to get my shit together... I'll talk about how to can take your current collection, rip it, calibrate CD, MP3, Vinyl sound, and put on a Single Board Computer and connect to your router. No, its not complicated. More and more free streaming music are being squeezed out.


I have to do something. I refuse to join spotify or whatever else is out there and pay a monthly fee to listen to music I already own.
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Reply #6 posted 04/30/18 1:51pm

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I don't have enough room on my computer to rip every CD (a format in which I continue to buy)

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Reply #7 posted 04/30/18 2:19pm

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Cinny said:

I don't have enough room on my computer to rip every CD (a format in which I continue to buy)

Hey Cinny smile


4TB HDD can hold 850,000 singles, you' need NAS - https://www.pcmag.com/art...086,00.aspp

If Price is an issue, I like this one: https://www.cnet.com/prod...n-ds214se/

Or, you can get a Single Board Computer (ODROID-X4 plus NAS BOX), 2TB HDD can hold 4,000 albums.

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Reply #8 posted 04/30/18 11:58pm

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kitbradley said:

domainator2010 said:

What exactly is Google Play? Do you buy stuff from it, or do you store your *own* MP3s or whatever, on to it?

Both!



I'm not in favour of this "computer scientists taking over the world" shit. What the fuck does a search engine have to do with music?? Has everyone gone Mad?!!

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Reply #9 posted 05/03/18 8:58am

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domainator2010 said:

kitbradley said:

domainator2010 said: Both!



I'm not in favour of this "computer scientists taking over the world" shit. What the fuck does a search engine have to do with music?? Has everyone gone Mad?!!

lol Google has morphed into something way more than just a search engine. It is THE BEAST! lol

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Reply #10 posted 05/03/18 3:16pm

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TD3 said:

Cinny said:

I don't have enough room on my computer to rip every CD (a format in which I continue to buy)

Hey Cinny smile


4TB HDD can hold 850,000 singles, you' need NAS - https://www.pcmag.com/art...086,00.aspp

If Price is an issue, I like this one: https://www.cnet.com/prod...n-ds214se/

Or, you can get a Single Board Computer (ODROID-X4 plus NAS BOX), 2TB HDD can hold 4,000 albums.


drool I have some friends that have gaming servers set up like this but it all kinda blows my mind.

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Reply #11 posted 05/05/18 6:40am

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kitbradley said:

domainator2010 said:



I'm not in favour of this "computer scientists taking over the world" shit. What the fuck does a search engine have to do with music?? Has everyone gone Mad?!!

lol Google has morphed into something way more than just a search engine. It is THE BEAST! lol


It's too bad that this is a side-effect of the net. Is there anything Sundar about Mr. Pichai? smile

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Reply #12 posted 05/05/18 10:49am

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Get with it Beverly.

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Reply #13 posted 05/07/18 2:55pm

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Cinny said:

TD3 said:

Hey Cinny smile


4TB HDD can hold 850,000 singles, you' need NAS - https://www.pcmag.com/art...086,00.aspp

If Price is an issue, I like this one: https://www.cnet.com/prod...n-ds214se/

Or, you can get a Single Board Computer (ODROID-X4 plus NAS BOX), 2TB HDD can hold 4,000 albums.


drool I have some friends that have gaming servers set up like this but it all kinda blows my mind.

How many CD's/records would you estimate you have Cinny?

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Reply #14 posted 05/08/18 7:48am

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TD3 said:

Cinny said:


drool I have some friends that have gaming servers set up like this but it all kinda blows my mind.

How many CD's/records would you estimate you have Cinny?


Thousands of each, in every room. neutral

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Reply #15 posted 05/08/18 9:25am

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I have around 2500 CDs and it's taken me 4 years to upload half of them into Google Play Music. Unless you're at home a lot and have a lot of idle time on your hands, it's painfully time consuming to upload entire albums when you own that large of a music collection. I have no desire to start that process all over again.


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Reply #16 posted 05/08/18 11:00am

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kitbradley said:

I have around 2500 CDs and it's taken me 4 years to upload half of them into Google Play Music. Unless you're at home a lot and have a lot of idle time on your hands, it's painfully time consuming to upload entire albums when you own that large of a music collection. I have no desire to start that process all over again.


I started to do this around 2013 for just Prince and ran out of room on my Macbook. So I got an external HD for my iTunes but when I opened my library it said I had ZERO songs until I pointed to my hard drive everytime. So I said smoker fuck it

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Reply #17 posted 05/08/18 1:26pm

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Cinny said:

kitbradley said:

I have around 2500 CDs and it's taken me 4 years to upload half of them into Google Play Music. Unless you're at home a lot and have a lot of idle time on your hands, it's painfully time consuming to upload entire albums when you own that large of a music collection. I have no desire to start that process all over again.


I started to do this around 2013 for just Prince and ran out of room on my Macbook. So I got an external HD for my iTunes but when I opened my library it said I had ZERO songs until I pointed to my hard drive everytime. So I said smoker fuck it

lol lol lol You could've used a Linux ("live") DVD or USB thumbdrive to retrieve those songs. Sometimes zero menus thought the HDD didn't boot up, those albums/songs are still on the drive. You could just moved them over to another drive.

The other thing you could kitbradley is purchase a DVD CD MULTI-DISC DUPLICATOR COPIER BURNER. They have a bunch on sale on eBay. Or see if you find one at a garage sale, estate sale, or goodwill. I found one at a estate sale, 15 CDS's at a time for 90 bucks. Since we are collectors, I'd recommend all audiophile should have one.


The best and easiest way to organize your music - like iTunes - would be Easy-tag software. Apple, Linux, & Windows. You'll have to type in the missing info about the Artist, Genre. year, and other band-mates... if that info is missing. Everytime you go through your Prince albums, to make sure the info is correct. Easy go will place the album in the Prince folder. After that you could easily move the enter database to another computer or a computer server. This are some of the ways you can build your own home streaming media.

Plex ; https://www.tomsguide.com...18589.html ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqwgkQaCp-A

The cool thing about Plex it fill data automatically no need to use Easy-go.

Raspberry Pi Home Network Music System: https://www.youtube.com/w...ErJLMjRhfM

Volumio: https://volumio.org/



You can use a credit size single board computert(s): Raspberry Pi 2, 3, Zero o... new 3 B+ or an ODROID C2 or XU4 / XU4 (older one but works just as well as the newer version)

I keep coming back to these S.B.C. because the use less power and its Linux. Over time Linux just works and runs with very few glitches are systems crashing or data missing. I had a server that cost $400 a year, to run 24/7. My Odroid and Raspberry Pi cost me about $14.00 bucks a year. I'll show you guys how to set one of these things up in the future.

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Reply #18 posted 05/08/18 1:48pm

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15 Disc DVD CD Multi Disc Duplicator Copier Burner??? eek No, I never heard of that. Geez, I wish I would have known about that 4 years ago! confused I will definately check that out. Thanks! thumbs up!

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Reply #19 posted 05/09/18 6:09am

domainator2010

...OK, I'm trying to decipher TD's post, but....something's wrong, my heads not working or something....TD, adn you guys, could you start from the beginning and explain to me exactly what you're trying to do....? Please keep in mind, I have zero knowledge about iTunes and, as said above, Google play...

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Reply #20 posted 05/09/18 6:10am

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Btw, TD, have u used XBMC?

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Reply #21 posted 05/09/18 8:30am

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Droid Life reported last week that YouTube Remix will launch by the end of the year, and Google Play Music will cease to exist and all users will be migrated. YouTube didn’t challenge that report, saying in a statement that “nothing will change for users today and we’ll provide plenty of notice before any changes are made.”

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Download all the shit hop that you can for your kids, neices, nephews, and their friends also. That will prevent them from going out and buying it and will prevent some shit hop sales. Every little bit helps - Andy
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Reply #22 posted 05/09/18 12:03pm

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Btw, TD, have u used XBMC?

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Yes, I'm running XBMC, now known as KODI... streaming films (10, 000 films) & albu bems ( 5,345 albums) collection. I also plan to setup a Volumio because I want a decdicated music server tooI which can controedl via my tablet & smartphone..

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Reply #23 posted 05/09/18 10:58pm

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...I still don't get it - you want to put the CDs you've bought on the Internet??

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...I still don't get it - you want to put the CDs you've bought on the Internet??

No, I've put my music collection albums / CD's on a connected to my router so I can steam my collection on all TV's, my phone, & tablet. My thoughts were if your an audiophile like many of use are on the org. Why would you pay a streaming service when have the same music? lol :



Initial post kitbradley voice a concern, that the current Google Play format is going to push people like him - who've download their own music to Google play, will be pushed out. Google says nothings going to change but it will.... all these streaming services are moving to pay to play and listen format.

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Reply #25 posted 05/10/18 8:27am

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on a WHAT connected to the Internet?

...and on that note, check out this:

www.mediagoblin.org

Tell everyone about it!!

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Reply #26 posted 05/10/18 8:51am

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paisleypark4 said:

Droid Life reported last week that YouTube Remix will launch by the end of the year, and Google Play Music will cease to exist and all users will be migrated. YouTube didn’t challenge that report, saying in a statement that “nothing will change for users today and we’ll provide plenty of notice before any changes are made.”

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But no one if verifying if the current users libraries will definately migrate over to this new system. That's my prime concern. It sounds like in all probablity, that will happen. If not, Google is going to have a lot of very pissed off users.

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Reply #27 posted 05/10/18 11:15am

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kitbradley said:

paisleypark4 said:

Droid Life reported last week that YouTube Remix will launch by the end of the year, and Google Play Music will cease to exist and all users will be migrated. YouTube didn’t challenge that report, saying in a statement that “nothing will change for users today and we’ll provide plenty of notice before any changes are made.”

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But no one if verifying if the current users libraries will definately migrate over to this new system. That's my prime concern. It sounds like in all probablity, that will happen. If not, Google is going to have a lot of very pissed off users.

I am hoping so! Will the app dissappear or get changed etc. It wont happen until December of 2018 so there is still plenty of time. I will cancel my subscription if it does not include my own library and just pick my ipod back up again

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Reply #28 posted 05/10/18 12:05pm

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on a WHAT connected to the Internet?

...and on that note, check out this:

www.mediagoblin.org

Tell everyone about it!!

I though I mentioned this before...

You can either purchase a NAS server, that's gonna cost you about $300 plus a year to run 24/7. Or you can purchase a Singal Board Computer, connect a 2gb or more HDD/SSD to the S.B.C. vie USB ports. Yo uconnect S.B.C to your home router Ethernet port. You can setup was your S.B.C streams to upteem ways.

My setup , ODROID xu4 is connected to my home router via Ethernet, I can access movies and music. via my iPad, iPod & iPhone. I have Raspberr Pi on every TV in our home, I can stream movies/movies to those TV's as well. In my case I have two ODROID XU4's running as medai servers & Raspberry Pi running as a cloud sever.

examples: https://www.youtube.com/w...dqJ_vgLGjI


examples: https://www.youtube.com/w...wNDOzthNIg This is what I have connected to my router. To see those servers move video time line 2:48



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Youtube Remix will probably follow the same plan as 8tracks. I loaded music there as well but 8tracks now limits how many hours a week you can listen to your library or anyone else music. If you want to listen to musi without limits you must sub.


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