https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan

Yes

I keep seeing ads for this documentary of hers on Netflix. There is something about it that just rubs me wrong. I'm all about MeToo etc etc., but it feels like Rose has crossed the line from activist to opportunist.

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I don't even have to read her twitter. The answer is "Yes". I've never really seen any interviews with her. Only when she was on The View a few weeks ago and was wondering if she has always been like that?

Agreed, she's full blown crazy. And a drug addict. #mememe

If u dated Marilyn Manson it has to affect u in some way or another!!!

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no. she's bitter and vengeful over the fact that she had endure rape then stand by and watch while a disgusting fuck blighted her career for resisting his sexual advances. i'd say she's angry, not tra la la crazy. as far as her theatrics go, that's just for show imo

XxAxX said:

no. she's bitter and vengeful over the fact that she had endure rape then stand by and watch while a disgusting fuck blighted her career for resisting his sexual advances.

XxAxX, she took a cash payout and signed an NDA instead of giving potential "victims" a heads-up. For this reason, I found it galling that she had the balls to stand up and present herself as a crusader for the sisterhood.

And "blighted her career"? She went on to work with him afterwards.

kpowers said:

And, yes - she is "a wacko".

Ace said:

XxAxX said:

no. she's bitter and vengeful over the fact that she had endure rape then stand by and watch while a disgusting fuck blighted her career for resisting his sexual advances.

XxAxX, she took a cash payout and signed an NDA instead of giving potential "victims" a heads-up. For this reason, I found it galling that she had the balls to stand up and present herself as a crusader for the sisterhood.

And "blighted her career"? She went on to work with him afterwards.

you've introduced elements of her life and behavior that you disapprove of and that is quite a laundry list of resentment you hold against her for her past actions.

in my opinion, however, your post doesn't really support an argument of whether Rose is "nuts" or not but rather speaks more to your disapproval of her life and the choices she's made therein instead of whether or not she is mentally stable.

if you need to judge her from afar then so be it - i can see that she has not passed your standards, the 'Ace' test.

but in my opinion, her behavior and actions speak to trauma arising from emotional and psychological damage - or maybe she is a snarky beast personality-wise - rather than to her being "nuts" or "wacko".

ps: just my opinion, nothing to get hung about.

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XxAxX said:

Ace said:

XxAxX, she took a cash payout and signed an NDA instead of giving potential "victims" a heads-up. For this reason, I found it galling that she had the balls to stand up and present herself as a crusader for the sisterhood.

And "blighted her career"? She went on to work with him afterwards.

you've introduced elements of her life and behavior that you disapprove of and that is quite a laundry list of resentment you hold against her for her past actions.

I have no resentment towards the woman. I'm merely pointing out that her actions have been inconsistent with her statements.

in my opinion, however, your post doesn't really support an argument of whether Rose is "nuts" or not but rather speaks more to your disapproval of her life and the choices she's made therein instead of whether or not she is mentally stable.

I think that anyone who gets up on a soapbox to preach about silence in the face of (alleged) abuse - and, in fact, accuses others (see Meryl Streep, et al.) of being complicit - after allowing her silence to be bought? I'm no clinician, but - to me - yes, that is "nuts".

if you need to judge her from afar then so be it - i can see that she has not passed your standards, the 'Ace' test.

Are you not judging her from afar? And I have no "need" to do so. But the question was posed and I felt I was as qualified as anyone else here to weigh in. And wouldn't you say that these aren't my standards, but the standards of reasonable debate?

but in my opinion, her behavior and actions speak to trauma arising from emotional and psychological damage - or maybe she is a snarky beast personality-wise - rather than to her being "nuts" or "wacko".

I find this trend of ascribing all inconsistent behavior to PTSD to be a worrying one. It's saying that all actions that are inconsistent with allegations being made may be excused. I would leave it to the professionals to determine whether or not someone has actually suffered from such a condition and whether or not that condition can adequately explain said actions.

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^ great post.

okay. thank you for sharing your viewpoint. on one thing we agree - i too, "would leave it to the professionals to determine whether or not someone has actually suffered from such a condition and whether or not that condition can adequately explain said actions".

and as you rightly pointed out i'm certainly not qualified to judge ms. mccowan either. i could be wrong, for all i know.

and as you've pointed out in past i am not the world's finest critic to begin with so i'll refrain from speaking on anything other than my personal opinion when it comes to the subject of ms. mccowan's psychological status....

Ace said:

XxAxX said:

Are you not judging her from afar? And I have no "need" to do so. But the question was posed and I felt I was as qualified as anyone else here to weigh in. And wouldn't you say that these aren't my standards, but the standards of reasonable debate?

but in my opinion, her behavior and actions speak to trauma arising from emotional and psychological damage - or maybe she is a snarky beast personality-wise - rather than to her being "nuts" or "wacko".

I find this trend of ascribing all inconsistent behavior to PTSD to be a worrying one. It's saying that all actions that are inconsistent with allegations being made may be excused. I would leave it to the professionals to determine whether or not someone has actually suffered from such a condition and whether or not that condition can adequately explain said actions.

morningsong said:

She'll hold a special place in my heart regardless of whatever demons she s working through.

And she guest starred in my all-time fav Law & Order: SVU season 12, episode 19 called "Bombshell" (2011) she should have gotten an Emmy for it.

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I liked her on Charmed

Isn't it interesting that people who would never dream of using the word "fag" to refer to someone who may (or may not) be gay or "n*****" to refer to someone of African descent think it's perfectly fine to refer to someone who may (or may not) be mentally ill as "wacko"?

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Genesia said:

Isn't it interesting that people who would never dream of using the word "fag" to refer to someone who may (or may not) be gay or "n*****" to refer to someone of African descent think it's perfectly fine to refer to someone who may (or may not) be mentally ill as "wacko"?

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i was thinking the same thing - held back, but glad you didn't.

if rose does have a mental illness, then she deserves sympathy, because it's not something she asked for.

she doesn't deserve to be laughed at or ridiculed for something she doesn't control. she needs help & understanding.

that atrocious plastic surgury is proof enough

luvsexy4all said:

that atrocious plastic surgury is proof enough

Rose McGowan addressed those plastic surgery rumors — even though she shouldn't have to https://hellogiggles.com/...oir-brave/

luvsexy4all said:

that atrocious plastic surgury is proof enough

That really is a shaming technique which delves into ad hominem. The real question is - is Rose McGowan mentally unstable in some regard? Is she having a public meltdown? Is she in a good place or no?

To me, her actions go way beyond the MeToo movement. It reeks of being, as I stated earlier, an opportunist. However, maybe she really is that traumatized that she comes across unhinged in subsequent interviews.

XxAxX said:

and as you've pointed out in past i am not the world's finest critic to begin with

I don't recall what you're referring to, but if I did say something like that, it was probably because I thought an opinion of yours was dangerous.

You seem like a very kind-hearted, well-intentioned person. But - as I've learned via my own mistakes - the kind-hearted can sometimes let their good intentions be co-opted by ideologies that (I sincerely feel) are ultimately harmful.

I would suggest investigating Dr. Jordan B. Peterson's work. If you do so with an open mind, I think you'll find that he has some keen insights into the "social justice warrior" mindset and to where it can lead.

If I've previously said anything that hurt you, I apologize for that. That was not my intention.

TrivialPursuit said:

To me, her actions go way beyond the MeToo movement. It reeks of being, as I stated earlier, an opportunist.

That's my feeling,too, TrivialPursuit.

Ace said:

XxAxX said:

and as you've pointed out in past i am not the world's finest critic to begin with

I don't recall what you're referring to, but if I did say something like that, it was probably because I thought an opinion of yours was dangerous.

You seem like a very kind-hearted, well-intentioned person. But - as I've learned via my own mistakes - the kind-hearted can sometimes let their good intentions be co-opted by ideologies that (I sincerely feel) are ultimately harmful.

I would suggest investigating Dr. Jordan B. Peterson's work. If you do so with an open mind, I think you'll find that he has some keen insights into the "social justice warrior" mindset and to where it can lead.

If I've previously said anything that hurt you, I apologize for that. That was not my intention.

Ace, first of all what a comer you are. one has to admire at least that.

second of all thanks but no. i'm not interested in your reading recommendations. i've formed my own opinion quite capably already and believe my opinion is accurate with respect to Ms. McGowan.

and lastly, you called Ms. McCowan a "wacko" above while simultaneously admonishing and advising me that only professionals can make a determination as to someone's mental status.

hypocrite much?

tell you what Ace, this topic might just be best left with the professionals.

XxAxX said:

Ace said:

I don't recall what you're referring to, but if I did say something like that, it was probably because I thought an opinion of yours was dangerous.

You seem like a very kind-hearted, well-intentioned person. But - as I've learned via my own mistakes - the kind-hearted can sometimes let their good intentions be co-opted by ideologies that (I sincerely feel) are ultimately harmful.

I would suggest investigating Dr. Jordan B. Peterson's work. If you do so with an open mind, I think you'll find that he has some keen insights into the "social justice warrior" mindset and to where it can lead.

If I've previously said anything that hurt you, I apologize for that. That was not my intention.

Ace, first of all what a comer you are. one has to admire at least that.

second of all thanks but no. i'm not interested in your reading recommendations. i've formed my own opinion quite capably already and believe my opinion is accurate with respect to Ms. McGowan.

and lastly, you called Ms. McCowan a "wacko" above while simultaneously admonishing and advising me that only professionals can make a determination as to someone's mental status.

hypocrite much?

tell you what Ace, this topic might just be best left with the professionals.

No, I said that it should be left to professionals to determine if she's suffering from some kind of PTSD and (if so) whether or not that would explain away the inconsistencies in her statements and behavior. I will say that everything I know about the subject says that it would not.

We were asked here to give our (obviously non-professional) opinions as to whether Rose McGowan is "a wacko". Genesia and damo have posted things that have made me reconsider using these kinds of words. But I stand by my opinion that she's mentally unstable. And that opinion is not an uninformed one.

You seem to feel that my last post had ulterior motives. It didn't. I genuinely meant every word.

I wish you nothing but happiness. As I said, you seem like a very kind-hearted, well-intentioned person.