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Thread started 12/07/17 9:11am

paisleypark4

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Shameless Appreciation

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Can we just talk about Shameless and how much we love this show?
Favorite moments...scenes?

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Reply #1 posted 12/07/17 9:54am

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paisleypark4 said:

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Can we just talk about Shameless and how much we love this show?
Favorite moments...scenes?

The first few series of the UK version were fantastic. Sadly they went on to long with it. Seems wierd seeing the characters cast for the US version.

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Reply #2 posted 12/07/17 11:29am

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I've loved the US version since day one. I started to almost simultaneously watch the UK version when the US version hit the airwaves. It was a bit too much deja vu, so I nixed the UK series and stuck with the US. I think for the most part every season has been really well done. I love how every other season is either a winter setting or a hot summer setting. I miss Joan Cusack on the show. But I think her character was probably played to the fullest.

I actually don't care much about Frank at this point. He's such an extraneous character by now and it actually irritates me when he gets involved with Carl or Debbie. When Debbie goes off and decides to have a baby with a boy or tries to push herself into adulthood because she has no control over anything else in her life, that's good television. When Carl shackles someone in the basement based on his patriotism (which is irony in itself), that's good storytelling. Pushing gender and sexuality boundaries with Ian and Lip, or rooting for Fiona to actually do something more than hustle at a bar is great storytelling. Pepper in V and Kevin's hustle with the Russian, which is such a great metaphor for collusion, yet started way before Trump's problems were evident, Liam ingesting cocaine, or Monica's bipolar disorder - it really dips into some heady topics without being preachy.

I do think Jimmy/Steve (Justin Chatwin) making an appearance right now would be pretty sweet. And while Mickey was a fun bad boy for Ian to get muddled down with, I sorta feel like his living-on-the-edge character might have been played to the most like Joan's character was played. They've run their course.

It has maintained the ability to have great seasons every year with an engaging and suspenseful storyline, whether it was them losing the house then getting it back, or whatever - I don't think they've had a bad season yet.

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Reply #3 posted 12/07/17 12:36pm

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I love this show as we can all see parts of ourself in these characters, or been through something they are going through. Being the oldest of four I have felt Fiona's pain of feeling the brunt of having to take on all the siblings drama, or having one alcoholic parent make a mess out of your life while you are trying to do whats right like go to college (like Lip).

Agree that they have done SO MUCH in the show and I am only on season 5 playing catch up. Started watching the UK version as well because the US version was not on Netflix until season 6.

Agree that Jimmy's character would be very refreshing this far in as Fiona's legal troubles could really use a boost, however I did sneak in and see that she is doing better and getting in the real estate business. I was very tired of Jimmy though by season 3. His antics were getting annoying, and character was in the way of Ian's development...since he wasnt around much.

Don't see Frank's antics helping the family out anymore..now he's just drug addicted and getting in the way of the others. I saw that Debbie had a baby (with whom I dont know). Veronica letting Kevin sleep with her mom to have a baby was HILARIOUS I can't think of another show I have seen so much silliness in one setting.


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Reply #4 posted 12/07/17 6:22pm

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Oh thanks, I have to catch up on season 6. I definitely love the US version better, the UK version was pretty good, and I did see it first but I think the fact they kept losing cast members made it hard to keep up.

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Reply #5 posted 12/08/17 3:44am

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I didn't even know an American version existed...
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Reply #6 posted 12/08/17 8:55am

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I didn't even know an American version existed...


I mean.... really? Although, maybe you don't live in the U.S? (I forget.)

But yeah, it's in its 8th season/series. They had to really fight to not have it be a comedy. When producers pitched it to Showtime & other networks, everyone wanted it to be just white trash comedy and have them be a caricature of poor people. The producers fought to have it be a drama and show that these type of people exist and that living under the tracks is a reality for many folks struggling to make it in life. I think they felt like networks wanted to do a grittier Roseanne or King of Queens. Had it been that, it probably would not have lasted so long, nor would I have watched it either.

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Reply #7 posted 12/08/17 9:38am

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EmmaMcG said:


I didn't even know an American version existed...


I mean.... really? Although, maybe you don't live in the U.S? (I forget.)

But yeah, it's in its 8th season/series. They had to really fight to not have it be a comedy. When producers pitched it to Showtime & other networks, everyone wanted it to be just white trash comedy and have them be a caricature of poor people. The producers fought to have it be a drama and show that these type of people exist and that living under the tracks is a reality for many folks struggling to make it in life. I think they felt like networks wanted to do a grittier Roseanne or King of Queens. Had it been that, it probably would not have lasted so long, nor would I have watched it either.



I live in Ireland. I only vaguely remember the English one because my sister is a big fan of it but I never heard her mention an American version.
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Reply #8 posted 12/08/17 10:26am

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I live in Ireland. I only vaguely remember the English one because my sister is a big fan of it but I never heard her mention an American version.


That's right. You've mentioned that before, but it was just escaping me.

The US version is great. As I mentioned, I had started watching the UK version when I started the US version, but they were so identical I gave up on the UK one. It was too much deja vu. I don't know how much they changed as time went on.

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Reply #9 posted 12/08/17 1:11pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



EmmaMcG said:


I live in Ireland. I only vaguely remember the English one because my sister is a big fan of it but I never heard her mention an American version.


That's right. You've mentioned that before, but it was just escaping me.

The US version is great. As I mentioned, I had started watching the UK version when I started the US version, but they were so identical I gave up on the UK one. It was too much deja vu. I don't know how much they changed as time went on.




A lot because the US version still has all of its main characters, the UK version had to bring in several new characters to replace the ones they lost. For instance Fiona left after the 2nd season in the UK version.
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Reply #10 posted 12/08/17 5:11pm

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Emma Kenney is playing Darlene's daughter on the Roseanne reboot.

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I fell behind on Shameless during season 5, but loved the first four seasons. During season 4 I was so addicted to it I briefly had it as my top show of all time.

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