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Thread started 12/23/17 4:23pm

morningsong

Speaking of great actors , didn't Daniel Day Lewis retire?

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I swear artist and their definition of retiring is different than everybody else's.

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Reply #1 posted 12/23/17 6:10pm

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I think people in the artist field (singers, writers, actors, etc) get burned out after certain products, and make some big pronouncement about never wanting to do it again. Even Prince did that. Madonna said that after Like A Prayer, Dick Tracy and The Blond Ambition Tour. I never quite believe them. They're artists, they'll always want to do something. Besides, you wave enough money in someone's face, they'll show up and show out, smoother than a fresh jar of Skippy.

The one who's actually stuck to her retirement is Tina Turner. She's not made an album since TwentyFourSeven in 1999. She did a final 50th-anniversary tour, recorded a couple of tracks, & stays active otherwise. I remember something about a Broadway show based on her life. I don't know the status of it. She even gave up her U.S. citizenship and is a permanent citizen of Switzerland. She seems happy with Erwin and I'm happy for her. Ol' girl is 70+. She deserves to kick back.

The one person I hope retires is George Lucas. Go make ya stupid arthouse films at Skywalker Ranch, and stay away from releasing movies.

Day-Lewis ain't goin' anywhere. He took a well deserved 5 years off from Lincoln until this. But retired? Nope.

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Reply #2 posted 12/24/17 6:06pm

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Master Lewis definitely retired a few years ago then a few years before that...The Greats claim retirement until a Brilliant script shows up in the mail..Daniel is not a Box-Office King but his amazing Gift makes him a juggernaut...He's paid Handsomely and can easily make one film every 5-10yrs..(once again, the Studios only want Daniel for the Masterpiece scripts, such a fortunate curse)

Daniel wants that FOURTH Oscar for Best Leading Actor (he'll be the first Male to accomplish it)...and he's gonna get that 4th Oscar but not this go'round...

He'll get his 4th Oscar BEFORE Denzel gets his 3rd...Denzel is gonna have to wait 5-10yrs before he gets his 3rd Oscar, but he's gonna rack up some nominations along the way...

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Reply #3 posted 12/25/17 4:03pm

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I can't believe he's gonna retire, because I bet if he was offered a really juicy role in the future that really challenged him, he would do it nod

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Reply #4 posted 12/25/17 6:48pm

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Goddess4Real said:

I can't believe he's gonna retire, because I bet if he was offered a really juicy role in the future that really challenged him, he would do it nod


He didn't, obviously, with the movie coming out. His retirement speech was five years ago.

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Reply #5 posted 12/25/17 9:14pm

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He retired. 11/2017

https://www.wmagazine.com...tom-thread

Phantom Thread was his last film.

Around two years ago, as part of his preparation to play the couturier ­Reynolds Woodcock in Paul Thomas Anderson’s latest film, Phantom Thread, Daniel Day-Lewis re-created a Balenciaga dress. At that time, Day-Lewis could not have predicted that Woodcock would be the last character he would play. He had no sense that this film would engulf him in such a depression that he would be prompted to publicly announce his retirement from acting. On the contrary, he was, as he has always been when he takes on a new part, eager to immerse himself in yet another cinematic identity.


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Day-Lewis has often wanted to quit after emerging from a character. This time, by making a public announcement of his retirement, he sought to make the decision binding. “I knew it was uncharacteristic to put out a statement,” he continued. “But I did want to draw a line. I didn’t want to get sucked back into another project. All my life, I’ve mouthed off about how I should stop acting, and I don’t know why it was different this time, but the impulse to quit took root in me, and that became a compulsion. It was something I had to do.”

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Reply #6 posted 12/26/17 10:56am

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I'm interested in seeing the movie but I don't think this is the type of movie I'd gain the most from watching it in a theater, seems like one of those ones you'd watch in private so that your full focus is on what's going on as oppose to its enjoyment being enhanced by audience reaction.

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Reply #7 posted 01/02/18 9:00am

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You have no idea how filmmaking works, do you?

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Reply #8 posted 01/02/18 10:01am

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Genesia said:

You have no idea how filmmaking works, do you?



Nope, is there a reason why I should know all the ins and outs of filmmaking?

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Reply #9 posted 01/02/18 10:19am

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morningsong said:

Genesia said:

You have no idea how filmmaking works, do you?



Nope, is there a reason why I should know all the ins and outs of filmmaking?


You really only need to know one basic thing: that it is usually months between the time filming wraps and when the movie comes out. So it is perfectly possible for Daniel Day-Lewis to have retired from making films before his last one comes out.

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Reply #10 posted 01/02/18 10:39am

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Genesia said:

morningsong said:



Nope, is there a reason why I should know all the ins and outs of filmmaking?


You really only need to know one basic thing: that it is usually months between the time filming wraps and when the movie comes out. So it is perfectly possible for Daniel Day-Lewis to have retired from making films before his last one comes out.



I understand that. Seems longer than a few months since he announced his retirement. Not like this is a type of film that needs a lot of post-shooting stuff added so the timing did kind of throw me off.



But it does make me want to see the film and not see it. If it was so deep to affect him to that degree, he really put himself in it, which makes it seem worth watching but if it caused him that much depression, I don't know if I want to go that deep.

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Reply #11 posted 01/02/18 11:02am

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morningsong said:

Genesia said:


You really only need to know one basic thing: that it is usually months between the time filming wraps and when the movie comes out. So it is perfectly possible for Daniel Day-Lewis to have retired from making films before his last one comes out.



I understand that. Seems longer than a few months since he announced his retirement. Not like this is a type of film that needs a lot of post-shooting stuff added so the timing did kind of throw me off.



But it does make me want to see the film and not see it. If it was so deep to affect him to that degree, he really put himself in it, which makes it seem worth watching but if it caused him that much depression, I don't know if I want to go that deep.


That's the way he's always worked - and as a fellow actor, I understand it. He's an artist who has devoted years to each of his films - researching and building a life for his characters. (He actually learned couture sewing for Phantom Thread and became a cobbler for another role. And don't get me started on his process for Lincoln.) Because filmmaking is such a disjointed and non-linear process, he feels like he needs to live his part full-time in order for his character to have some kind of continuity while shooting scenes out of order, etc.

I sort of wonder if his process is unique to film - or if he'd approach a role on the stage in the same way.

Thank goodness, he never did a multi-part film like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter. He never would have survived.

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Reply #12 posted 01/02/18 11:15am

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Genesia said:

morningsong said:



I understand that. Seems longer than a few months since he announced his retirement. Not like this is a type of film that needs a lot of post-shooting stuff added so the timing did kind of throw me off.



But it does make me want to see the film and not see it. If it was so deep to affect him to that degree, he really put himself in it, which makes it seem worth watching but if it caused him that much depression, I don't know if I want to go that deep.


That's the way he's always worked - and as a fellow actor, I understand it. He's an artist who has devoted years to each of his films - researching and building a life for his characters. (He actually learned couture sewing for Phantom Thread and became a cobbler for another role. And don't get me started on his process for Lincoln.) Because filmmaking is such a disjointed and non-linear process, he feels like he needs to live his part full-time in order for his character to have some kind of continuity while shooting scenes out of order, etc.

I sort of wonder if his process is unique to film - or if he'd approach a role on the stage in the same way.

Thank goodness, he never did a multi-part film like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter. He never would have survived.



That's interesting to note. I realize some actors live their characters for a while but I didn't put it together with the disjointed way that films are made.

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Reply #13 posted 01/02/18 11:27am

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Missed you Genesia!! Glad you're back!

Genesia said:

morningsong said:



I understand that. Seems longer than a few months since he announced his retirement. Not like this is a type of film that needs a lot of post-shooting stuff added so the timing did kind of throw me off.



But it does make me want to see the film and not see it. If it was so deep to affect him to that degree, he really put himself in it, which makes it seem worth watching but if it caused him that much depression, I don't know if I want to go that deep.


That's the way he's always worked - and as a fellow actor, I understand it. He's an artist who has devoted years to each of his films - researching and building a life for his characters. (He actually learned couture sewing for Phantom Thread and became a cobbler for another role. And don't get me started on his process for Lincoln.) Because filmmaking is such a disjointed and non-linear process, he feels like he needs to live his part full-time in order for his character to have some kind of continuity while shooting scenes out of order, etc.

I sort of wonder if his process is unique to film - or if he'd approach a role on the stage in the same way.

Thank goodness, he never did a multi-part film like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter. He never would have survived.

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Reply #14 posted 01/02/18 2:36pm

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Genesia said:


That's the way he's always worked - and as a fellow actor, I understand it. He's an artist who has devoted years to each of his films - researching and building a life for his characters. (He actually learned couture sewing for Phantom Thread and became a cobbler for another role. And don't get me started on his process for Lincoln.) Because filmmaking is such a disjointed and non-linear process, he feels like he needs to live his part full-time in order for his character to have some kind of continuity while shooting scenes out of order, etc.

I sort of wonder if his process is unique to film - or if he'd approach a role on the stage in the same way.

Thank goodness, he never did a multi-part film like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter. He never would have survived.

I thought I heard where he stays in the role such as Lincoln, even at home.?

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Reply #15 posted 01/02/18 2:50pm

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PennyPurple said:

Genesia said:


That's the way he's always worked - and as a fellow actor, I understand it. He's an artist who has devoted years to each of his films - researching and building a life for his characters. (He actually learned couture sewing for Phantom Thread and became a cobbler for another role. And don't get me started on his process for Lincoln.) Because filmmaking is such a disjointed and non-linear process, he feels like he needs to live his part full-time in order for his character to have some kind of continuity while shooting scenes out of order, etc.

I sort of wonder if his process is unique to film - or if he'd approach a role on the stage in the same way.

Thank goodness, he never did a multi-part film like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter. He never would have survived.

I thought I heard where he stays in the role such as Lincoln, even at home.?


I've heard that, too - but I doubt he actually continues to "be" Lincoln when he isn't working. What would his wife do? Pretend she's Mary Todd? lol

It is possible, though, that he continued to speak in Lincoln's accent and timbre, and maybe adopted some of his movement. For some actors, switching back and forth between accents isn't a simple thing - especially if it's very different from your normal speech pattern - so it's easier to just stay in it. When I do an accent for a role, I generally need at least a couple hours before a performance to "get into" it flawlessly. I'll start running my lines in the car on the way home from work, then stay in the accent while I'm traveling to the theater, in dressing room - on until the final curtain.

If someone is working on a movie and shooting every day, it would just make sense to stay in it - especially given the long time he would have been in make-up, etc.

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Genesia said:

PennyPurple said:

I thought I heard where he stays in the role such as Lincoln, even at home.?


I've heard that, too - but I doubt he actually continues to "be" Lincoln when he isn't working. What would his wife do? Pretend she's Mary Todd? lol

It is possible, though, that he continued to speak in Lincoln's accent and timbre, and maybe adopted some of his movement. For some actors, switching back and forth between accents isn't a simple thing - especially if it's very different from your normal speech pattern - so it's easier to just stay in it. When I do an accent for a role, I generally need at least a couple hours before a performance to "get into" it flawlessly. I'll start running my lines in the car on the way home from work, then stay in the accent while I'm traveling to the theater, in dressing room - on until the final curtain.

If someone is working on a movie and shooting every day, it would just make sense to stay in it - especially given the long time he would have been in make-up, etc.

If he stays in his roles, I would've loved to have been his wife during Last of the Mohicans! lol

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Reply #17 posted 01/02/18 2:57pm

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PennyPurple said:

Genesia said:


I've heard that, too - but I doubt he actually continues to "be" Lincoln when he isn't working. What would his wife do? Pretend she's Mary Todd? lol

It is possible, though, that he continued to speak in Lincoln's accent and timbre, and maybe adopted some of his movement. For some actors, switching back and forth between accents isn't a simple thing - especially if it's very different from your normal speech pattern - so it's easier to just stay in it. When I do an accent for a role, I generally need at least a couple hours before a performance to "get into" it flawlessly. I'll start running my lines in the car on the way home from work, then stay in the accent while I'm traveling to the theater, in dressing room - on until the final curtain.

If someone is working on a movie and shooting every day, it would just make sense to stay in it - especially given the long time he would have been in make-up, etc.

If he stays in his roles, I would've loved to have been his wife during Last of the Mohicans! lol


The line forms behind me, honey. lol

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Reply #18 posted 01/02/18 3:45pm

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Genesia said:

PennyPurple said:

If he stays in his roles, I would've loved to have been his wife during Last of the Mohicans! lol


The line forms behind me, honey. lol

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