ufoclub said:

I want to more about the idea of his screening process when he comes back into the office after an assignment. What's the philosophy behind the question answer rapid fire thing?

I'll see what I can pull up from the book

For more originality Downsizing looks much better.

ufoclub said:

I want to more about the idea of his screening process when he comes back into the office after an assignment. What's the philosophy behind the question answer rapid fire thing?

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/10/14/the-poetry-of-blade-runner-2049

The Poetry Of BLADE RUNNER 2049

By Priscilla Page Oct. 14, 2017

“…you can’t disprove the existence of conscious experiences by proving that they are only an appearance disguising the underlying reality, because where consciousness is concerned, the existence of the appearance is the reality.” - John Searle, The Construction of Social Reality

“But in the case / Of my white fountain what it did replace / Perceptually was something that, I felt, / Could be grasped only by whoever dwelt / In the strange world where I was a mere stray.” - Vladimir Nabokov, Pale Fire

“…blood-black nothingness began to spin / A system of cells interlinked within / Cells interlinked within cells interlinked / Within one stem. And dreadfully distinct / Against the dark, a tall white fountain played.” These lines from Blade Runner 2049’s post-traumatic baseline test come from Vladimir Nabokov’s novel Pale Fire. In Pale Fire, the fictional poet John Shade sees a tall white fountain during a near-death experience - the image’s “presence always would / Console [him] wonderfully.” Later Shade reads about a woman in a magazine who came close to death, who visited “the Land Beyond the Veil” and also glimpsed a “tall white fountain” there. Shade finds the woman to share this with her, only to discover it was a misprint - it was not a “fountain” but a “mountain” that she saw. But the error changes nothing: the image of the tall white fountain had meaning not because it had some objective significance, not because it was empirical proof of an afterlife, but because Shade ascribed meaning to it. The fictional scholar annotating John Shade’s poem, Dr. Charles Kinbote, writes: “We all are, in a sense, poets.”

the Baseline Test

"A blood black nothingness began to spin.

Began to spin.

Let's move on to system. System.

Feel that in your body. The system.

What does it feel like to be part of the system. System.

Is there anything in your body that wants to resist the system? System.

Do you get pleasure out of being a part of the system? System.

Have they created you to be a part of the system? System.

Is there security in being a part of the system? System.

Is there a sound that comes with the system? System.

We're going to go on. Cells.

They were all put together at a time. Cells.

Millions and billions of them. Cells.

Were you ever arrested? Cells.

Did you spend much time in the cell? Cells.

Have you ever been in an instituion? Cells.

Do they keep you in a cell? Cells.

When you're not performing your duties do they keep you in a little box? Cells.

Interlinked.

What's it like to hold the hand of someone you love? Interlinked.

Do they teach you how to feel finger to finger? Interlinked.

Do you long for having your heart interlinked? Interlinked.

Do you dream about being interlinked?

Have they left a place for you where you can dream? Interlinked.

What's it like to hold your child in your arms? Interlinked.

What's it like to play with your dog? Interlinked.

Do you feel that there's a part of you that's missing? Interlinked.

Do you like to connect to things? Interlinked.

What happens when that linkage is broken? Interlinked.

Have they let you feel heartbreak? Interlinked.

Did you buy a present for the person you love? Within cells interlinked.

Why don't you say that three times? Within cells interlinked. Within cells interlinked. Within cells interlinked.

Where do you go when you go within? Within.

Has anyone ever locked you out of a room? Within.

Within.

Where do you go to when you go within? Within.

Where is the place in the world you feel the safest? Within.

Do you have a heart? Within.

Stem.

Did you pick asparagus stems?

What comes from something else? Stem.

Have you been to the source of a river? Stem.

When's the first time you gave a flower to a girl? Stem.

What did she look like? Stem.

Is it a slang word for people's legs? Stem.

Have you planeted things in the ground? Stem.

Have you ever been in a legal battle? Stem.

Within one stem.

Dreadfully.

Is that an old fashioned word? Dreadfully.

Did you ever want to live in the nineteenth century? Dreadfully.

What's it like to be filled with dread? Dreadfully.

Do you think you could find out all the answers to all the questions? Dreadfully.

Distinct.

How good are your eyes? Distinct.

Do you have a particular personality? Distinct.

What separates somebody from somebody else? Distinct.

Who do you admire most in the world? Distinct.

What was your most shameful moment? Distinct.

Dreadfully distinct.

Dark.

Were you afraid of the dark whan you were little? Dark.

What's it like to hide under a bed? Dark.

Did they keep you in a drawer when they were building you? Dark?

Was it dark in there? Dark.

Do you have dark thoughts? Dark?

Did they program you to have dark thoughts? Dark?

Do you think it's some kind of corruption these dark thoughts? Dark.

Maybe it's a spot of rust or something? Dark.

Who's the darkest person you know? Dark.

What is it like when someone gives you the silent treatment. Dark.

Who did you get your darkness from? Dark.

Against the dark.

What kind of power do you have against the dark. Against the dark.

Do you think there is such a thing as evil? Against the dark.

Do you think you can protect people against the dark. Against the dark.

Why are these things happening? Against the dark.

Do you prefer the day or the night? Against the dark.

When is the last time you saw a starry sky? Against the dark.

What's your favorite part of the moon? Against the dark.

Fountain.

Have you seen the Trevi fountain in Rome? Fountain.

Have you ever seen the fountain in Lincoln center? Fountain.

Have you seen fountains out in the wild? Fountain.

What's it like when you have an orgasm. Fountain.

Have you read the Fountainhead? Fountain.

White Fountain.

Is it pure white? White Fountain.

Is that a metaphor? White Fountain.

How did the white Fountain make you feel? White Fountain.

A tall white fountain played.

When you were little did you ever fall into a Fountain? A Tall White Fountain.

Do you like fire, earth, air or water. A Tall White Fountain.

Do you like skipping around in the water? A Tall White Fountain.

A blood black nothingness.

A system of cells.

Within cells interlinked.

Within one stem.

And dreadfully distinct.

Against the dark.

A tall white fountain played."

Thanks for the info from the book!

Great info! thanks! I loved that scene.

I have not seen Blade Runner in a very long time....I can't even remember the plot....Should I see it before checking out 2049?

Chancellor said:

I have not seen Blade Runner in a very long time....I can't even remember the plot....Should I see it before checking out 2049?

No, watch this one first, then watch the 1982 Blade Runner

OldFriends4Sale said:

EmmaMcG said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

No, watch this one first, then watch the 1982 Blade Runner

I disagree. If you don't remember the plot of the first movie then there will be parts of the sequel you won't understand. You'd definitely be better off watching the Final Cut of the original (which this is a sequel to) before seeing the new one. Doesn't make sense to watch it backwards.

Indeed, the moment when theyre listening to the test Deckard did with Rachael gave me goosbumps.

Chancellor said:

I have not seen Blade Runner in a very long time....I can't even remember the plot....Should I see it before checking out 2049?

Definitely watch The Final Cut version of the original movie first especially if you don't remember the plot.

EmmaMcG said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

No, watch this one first, then watch the 1982 Blade Runner

I disagree. If you don't remember the plot of the first movie then there will be parts of the sequel you won't understand. You'd definitely be better off watching the Final Cut of the original (which this is a sequel to) before seeing the new one. Doesn't make sense to watch it backwards.

the reason I say watch this one first is

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this movie can also stand alone. I'm teaching myself to do that so I'm not disappointed. I had to do that with SW the Force Awakens

This movie is good enough elicite questions that will make a person want to look at BL1982

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Also I think the 1982 version is CLASSIC and unless you haven't seen it before, it will reawaken the romance of the movie. And might cause you to compare too much.

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I was going to watch Blade Runner 1982 again before I went to see BL2049. I'm glad I didn't

Chancelor saw the 1982 BR already, just not in a long time. So he can watch BL2049 first and rewatch BL1982 afterwards if he cannot get around to the former.

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I'll share some concept art

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I just came back from watching it and loved every single one of its 168 minutes... Visually stunning, it completely recaptures the atmosphere of the first one, while being an original story that stands on its own. There were some nice touches that provide continuity, such as the Pan Am ads or the references to the USSR, and altogether the story felt like a logical continuation of the first one. If I had to find some criticism, and even though I din't have any issues with the pace of the film, it felt that the first half is very slow and by comparison the second half felt a bit rushed. Still, I think it did justice to one of my favourite films of all time (not very original, I know) and I shall be watching it again in the near future.

Silvertongue7 said:

y'all made some valid points...Good arguments....I Love Harrison Ford like the rest of the world..

OldFriends4Sale said:

I'll share some concept art

Wow, they've used this is Spielberg's A.I.: Artificial Intelligence!

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Oh wait, I see that that concept art IS from A.I.
The pic is AI -The Toll Gate-
Wrong movie art

JorisE73 said:

Oh wait, I see that that concept art IS from A.I.
The pic is AI -The Toll Gate-
Wrong movie art

yep WRONG concept art lol

AI is a classic.

movies like this have wonderful imagery