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Reply #30 posted 09/29/17 3:59am

OnlyNDaUsa

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MoBettaBliss said:

i think my mother-in-law might be an alien eek

my stepmother is an alien!

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #31 posted 09/29/17 4:01am

OnlyNDaUsa

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Graycap23 said:

XxAxX said:



i love that this stuff is finally coming out.

I hope it is disclosed sooner rather than later.

I am not sure it should be...but I am more sure there is not much to tell.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #32 posted 09/29/17 7:56am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Graycap23 said:

I hope it is disclosed sooner rather than later.

I am not sure it should be...but I am more sure there is not much to tell.

No one is sure....that is the whole point.

Humans are still praying to invisible Gods that by definition are ALIEN.

Humans aren't sure of practically ANYTHING.

[Edited 9/29/17 10:43am]

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Reply #33 posted 09/29/17 5:41pm

morningsong


We all can agree...what we know vs. what we know we don't know vs what we don't know, we don't know, is a major difference.
Image result for what we know vs what we don't know



Still no closer to being convinced there is some international government cover-up though.

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Reply #34 posted 09/29/17 6:49pm

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morningsong said:


We all can agree...what we know vs. what we know we don't know vs what we don't know, we don't know, is a major difference.
Image result for what we know vs what we don't know



Still no closer to being convinced there is some international government cover-up though.

we do not know anywhere near that much

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Reply #35 posted 09/29/17 6:54pm

morningsong

^^I agree. I was hoping to find the one with a dot, then a big circle around the dot.

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Reply #36 posted 09/30/17 4:44pm

XxAxX

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Graycap23 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I am not sure it should be...but I am more sure there is not much to tell.

No one is sure....that is the whole point.

Humans are still praying to invisible Gods that by definition are ALIEN.

Humans aren't sure of practically ANYTHING.

[Edited 9/29/17 10:43am]


not to jack this off topic and into the P&R forum since this relates only a bit to the actual topic of this thread which is not religious or political at all; i always thought this bit was intriguing:

Genesis 6.2 version King James Bible - And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-6-2/

[Edited 9/30/17 16:44pm]

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Reply #37 posted 09/30/17 6:16pm

Graycap23

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XxAxX said:

Graycap23 said:

No one is sure....that is the whole point.

Humans are still praying to invisible Gods that by definition are ALIEN.

Humans aren't sure of practically ANYTHING.

[Edited 9/29/17 10:43am]


not to jack this off topic and into the P&R forum since this relates only a bit to the actual topic of this thread which is not religious or political at all; i always thought this bit was intriguing:

Genesis 6.2 version King James Bible - And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-6-2/

[Edited 9/30/17 16:44pm]

The bible thumpers IGNORE that part.

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Reply #38 posted 10/01/17 11:45am

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FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #39 posted 10/01/17 10:37pm

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XxAxX said:

Graycap23 said:

No one is sure....that is the whole point.

Humans are still praying to invisible Gods that by definition are ALIEN.

Humans aren't sure of practically ANYTHING.

[Edited 9/29/17 10:43am]


not to jack this off topic and into the P&R forum since this relates only a bit to the actual topic of this thread which is not religious or political at all; i always thought this bit was intriguing:

Genesis 6.2 version King James Bible - And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-6-2/

[Edited 9/30/17 16:44pm]

That certiainly makes ancient folks more interesting in those day, doesn't it!

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Reply #40 posted 10/02/17 1:28am

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Futurama certainly got it right.

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge"" ~ Isaac Asimov
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Reply #41 posted 10/02/17 6:35am

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Lianachan said:

Graycap23 said:

I hope it is disclosed sooner rather than later.


We have always been teetering on the brink of Great Revelations and Disclosures about the truth about aliens, and suchlike.


There remains absolutely no evidence whatsoever that aliens exist anywhere, let alone have been kicking about on Earth with the knowledge and assistance of any Gubmints.

Hear hear

[Edited 10/2/17 6:36am]

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Reply #42 posted 10/02/17 6:57am

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leecaldon said:

Lianachan said:


We have always been teetering on the brink of Great Revelations and Disclosures about the truth about aliens, and suchlike.


There remains absolutely no evidence whatsoever that aliens exist anywhere, let alone have been kicking about on Earth with the knowledge and assistance of any Gubmints.

Hear hear

[Edited 10/2/17 6:36am]

I'm not is disagreement with u.

That is why the subject of disclosure is so important.

I can say the same thing about God & Jesus.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #43 posted 10/02/17 7:20am

Lianachan

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Graycap23 said:

leecaldon said:

Hear hear

[Edited 10/2/17 6:36am]

I'm not is disagreement with u.

That is why the subject of disclosure is so important.

I can say the same thing about God & Jesus.



Disclosure of evidence would be great, but there has been none of that. Just the selling of bullshit.

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Reply #44 posted 10/02/17 7:50am

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Lianachan said:

Graycap23 said:

I'm not is disagreement with u.

That is why the subject of disclosure is so important.

I can say the same thing about God & Jesus.



Disclosure of evidence would be great, but there has been none of that. Just the selling of bullshit.

Like I said.......I agree.

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Reply #45 posted 10/02/17 3:02pm

morningsong

XxAxX said:

Graycap23 said:

No one is sure....that is the whole point.

Humans are still praying to invisible Gods that by definition are ALIEN.

Humans aren't sure of practically ANYTHING.

[Edited 9/29/17 10:43am]


not to jack this off topic and into the P&R forum since this relates only a bit to the actual topic of this thread which is not religious or political at all; i always thought this bit was intriguing:

Genesis 6.2 version King James Bible - And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-6-2/

[Edited 9/30/17 16:44pm]



Personally, I have zero frame of reference of what those writers meant 4 or 5,000 years ago that applies to my world. I've heard many different thoughts about it over the years but nothing really resonates with me.

But I thought this was about whether there is a government coverup of aliens giving humanity life saving technology not whether people believe in the possibility of aliens existing in this universe????? Which way are we going here?

[Edited 10/2/17 15:12pm]

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Reply #46 posted 10/02/17 5:12pm

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morningsong said:

XxAxX said:


not to jack this off topic and into the P&R forum since this relates only a bit to the actual topic of this thread which is not religious or political at all; i always thought this bit was intriguing:

Genesis 6.2 version King James Bible - And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-6-2/

[Edited 9/30/17 16:44pm]



Personally, I have zero frame of reference of what those writers meant 4 or 5,000 years ago that applies to my world. I've heard many different thoughts about it over the years but nothing really resonates with me.

But I thought this was about whether there is a government coverup of aliens giving humanity life saving technology not whether people believe in the possibility of aliens existing in this universe????? Which way are we going here?

[Edited 10/2/17 15:12pm]



well, your confusion over my side remark to Graycap is exactly why i prefaced my comment with the disclaimer above: not to jack this off topic and into the P&R forum since this relates only a bit to the actual topic of this thread which is not religious or political at all

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Reply #47 posted 10/02/17 7:10pm

morningsong

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:



Personally, I have zero frame of reference of what those writers meant 4 or 5,000 years ago that applies to my world. I've heard many different thoughts about it over the years but nothing really resonates with me.

But I thought this was about whether there is a government coverup of aliens giving humanity life saving technology not whether people believe in the possibility of aliens existing in this universe????? Which way are we going here?

[Edited 10/2/17 15:12pm]



well, your confusion over my side remark to Graycap is exactly why i prefaced my comment with the disclaimer above: not to jack this off topic and into the P&R forum since this relates only a bit to the actual topic of this thread which is not religious or political at all



Yeah, I understood that, just answered it from a personal perspective.

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Reply #48 posted 10/03/17 10:53am

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Lianachan said:

Graycap23 said:

I'm not is disagreement with u.

That is why the subject of disclosure is so important.

I can say the same thing about God & Jesus.



Disclosure of evidence would be great, but there has been none of that. Just the selling of bullshit.

but that assumes they are hiding something

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #49 posted 10/03/17 11:08am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Lianachan said:



Disclosure of evidence would be great, but there has been none of that. Just the selling of bullshit.

but that assumes they are hiding something



Do you think that's the only explanation is to why no evidence has been forthcoming? Apply Occam's Razor!

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Reply #50 posted 10/03/17 11:11am

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Lianachan said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

but that assumes they are hiding something



Do you think that's the only explanation is to why no evidence has been forthcoming? Apply Occam's Razor!

I am applying it. I am saying the reason why none has been released is because there is none to release.

I am saying there is no evidence to ETs to disclose.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #51 posted 10/03/17 1:29pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



Lianachan said:




OnlyNDaUsa said:





but that assumes they are hiding something





Do you think that's the only explanation is to why no evidence has been forthcoming? Apply Occam's Razor!




I am applying it. I am saying the reason why none has been released is because there is none to release.



I am saying there is no evidence to ETs to disclose.



Ah, ok, and absolutely. I hadn't picked that up from your post, sorry.
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Reply #52 posted 10/04/17 3:10pm

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i thought neil degrasse tyson said one very interesting thing in regards to questioning alien sightings, he said that they all have two eyes, nose, ears, two arms and legs and that an alien would probably not be like us in those ways. i have to agree with him. i've known several people who think they saw an ufo, some people think they are demons or creatures from a future.

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Reply #53 posted 10/04/17 3:16pm

PeteSilas

Lianachan said:

Graycap23 said:

I'm not is disagreement with u.

That is why the subject of disclosure is so important.

I can say the same thing about God & Jesus.



Disclosure of evidence would be great, but there has been none of that. Just the selling of bullshit.

i understand why you say that but some of the astronauts, who i think should be given some credence, have said they have seen things.

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Reply #54 posted 10/04/17 3:54pm

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PeteSilas said:

Lianachan said:



Disclosure of evidence would be great, but there has been none of that. Just the selling of bullshit.

i understand why you say that but some of the astronauts, who i think should be given some credence, have said they have seen things.

Several People including Nasa.

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Reply #55 posted 10/04/17 3:57pm

morningsong

PeteSilas said:

Lianachan said:



Disclosure of evidence would be great, but there has been none of that. Just the selling of bullshit.

i understand why you say that but some of the astronauts, who i think should be given some credence, have said they have seen things.




Jane Goodall believes in Big Foot but she's never seen one. All kinds of people believe all kinds of things. Nothing new in that.

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Reply #56 posted 10/04/17 4:34pm

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PeteSilas said:

Lianachan said:



Disclosure of evidence would be great, but there has been none of that. Just the selling of bullshit.

i understand why you say that but some of the astronauts, who i think should be given some credence, have said they have seen things.



I know many actual astronauts, including one that recently finished six months on the International Space Station, I've asked each of my friends if they've ever seen anything out there that they could not explain.

Each said no.

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Reply #57 posted 10/04/17 4:54pm

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RodeoSchro said:

PeteSilas said:

i understand why you say that but some of the astronauts, who i think should be given some credence, have said they have seen things.



I know many actual astronauts, including one that recently finished six months on the International Space Station, I've asked each of my friends if they've ever seen anything out there that they could not explain.

Each said no.

fair enough, i only brought them up because i think they deserve a little more of a listen than the rednecks who are famous for having them land on their farm or whatever. astronauts are pretty smart men, above average easily and they don't seem easily given to superstition or the paranormal.

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Reply #58 posted 10/05/17 2:56pm

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I believe people have seen UFOs but one has to consider that UFO doesn't spell space alien. Any organization from anywhere could be working on any number of projects, many fail and are never seen again, others receive grants and get all spiffy and polished up and don't look so "unusual" after it's rolled out for the public eye.

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Reply #59 posted 10/05/17 3:13pm

PeteSilas

morningsong said:

I believe people have seen UFOs but one has to consider that UFO doesn't spell space alien. Any organization from anywhere could be working on any number of projects, many fail and are never seen again, others receive grants and get all spiffy and polished up and don't look so "unusual" after it's rolled out for the public eye.

i think it was buzz aldrn who claimed to see a ufo but he added the definition as a caveat, he saw an unidentified flying object, not a ship, not an alien, something he couldn't identify. one of the other astronauts is a lot more sure of alien existence, he grew up in roswell and was there when the whole thing went down, great interviews on youtube. I had a close friend who swore she saw an alien in a grocery store, she just thought this one guy looked really waxy and inhuman, like an alien in disguise, I knew another guy who claimed to see a ufo in arizona, a seeming hotspot for them. Who knows what they might be, they might be creatures advanced far ahead of us, maybe time or dimension travellers. I don't think that we can explain away everything by everyone. Neil Tyson dismisses them all by saying eyewitness testimony is the most unreliable, but if you want to, you can rationalize any kind of belief, including the belief scientists put in their field. It's not all that different.

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