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AncestryDNA - yay or nay? How do you all feel about AncestryDNA? By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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I'm wary of anything like that. Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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I've read you have to be careful about which company.
Maybe this will help. https://isogg.org/wiki/Li..._companies the beware site http://www.genealogyjunki...links.html [Edited 8/9/17 1:15am] | |
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I've used AncestrybyDNA & African Ancestry. The results were eye-opening. | |
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My brother did it, the results didn't come out like we expected. Our oral family history says we have a lot of Cherokee in us. His DNA came back as NO native american. My son also did it and NO native american. | |
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Is anyone worried about a company "owning" your DNA? By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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I'm curious what the results would be if someone sent a sample to AncestryDNA and compared it to a sample processed by a private lab. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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PurpleJedi said: Is anyone worried about a company "owning" your DNA? I think there is a element of that. But personally I've already signed a waiver with one company years ago allowing them to use my DNA, so I'm already in somebody's database. And since DNA is in ever cell, someone beinging shady could still collect from people without them knowing, if there are neferious intentions that is, so I don't see how not taking the test "protects" one from aHoles. | |
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Co-sign! Just a way to make money and I wouldn't trust the results they sent me. | |
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I start to turn into a paranoid conspiracy theorist when it comes to my data. I don't even go near any of these health apps that track your fitness and tell you what to do, as I imagine these as a ruse to gather and illicitly sell a wealth of actuarial data that will surely damn me somewhere along the line. (Starting with the moment they realise I don't actually have an exercise regime....) "Not everything that is faced can be changed; but nothing can be changed until it is faced." - James Baldwin | |
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Until the day that DNA cannot be copyrighted by anyone other than the DNA holder, I'll wait on sending in my sample. Too weird providing such personal info to a corporate entity that might one day misuse the info embedded in DNA, imo | |
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Hmm... does DNA dictate personality? How much can be predicted. To what extent nature vs nurture.
The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days... | |
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sorry! i misspoke myself - the applicable word is patent, not copyright. it seems like a very murky issue right now and it makes me uneasy. i guess i'm not ready to voluntarily submit this kind of specifically personal DNA information to an entity for the purposes of an ancestry report. it's a blueprint for me and i am the only copy. you're right, thre high courts have been overturning patent claims on naturally occurring genes which is great news for us paranoiacs
http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/landmark-high-court-ruling-on-brca1-gene-patent-as-pensioner-wins-legal-case-20151006-gk2wvu.html A 69 year-old pensioner from Queensland has succeeded in a David-and-Goliath battle against a multinational corporation that claimed a patent over the "breast cancer" gene. Australia's highest court has unanimously ruled that a mutated gene that causes cancer cannot be subject to a patent, or the right to control use of the gene. The decision has been hailed as a "revolution in intellectual property" and a victory for public health and medical research. The case is a massive win for cancer survivor and grand...nne D'Arcy and the law firm that represented her, Maurice Blackburn, which took the case all the way to the High Court after repeated losses in the Federal Court. It argued that mutations in the so-called "breast cancer gene" BRCA1 were naturally occurring component of the human body that had been discovered, rather than an invention that could be patented.
http://www.preservearticles.com/2011120618179/patenting-of-human-genes-moral-and-ethical-issues.html INTRODUCTION “If you have got at least one kidney, a company called biogen owns the patent for atleast (sic) one of your genes, it’s called the KIM gene, and the kidney uses it in the process of self-repair. And if we can taste things with our tongue, the university of California owns the rights to three of our genes, called TCP-1, 2 and 3: it’s not clear in the patent application what the owners plan to do with their rights to these genes”. The conflicts between science and the law prevails from centuries and have greatly intensified with rapid progress and has shaped our world reliable on technologies to make our lives more efficient. In the early days, science and law came into conflict because scientific theories and the prevailing concepts of law were highly divergent and different. The conflict we face today is not whether scientific postulates that are contrary to rule of law should prevail, but it’s whether and to what extent law, or government, should or should not influence scientific progress. People, in their mind need to keep society under control, and this will continue to strive towards establishing a balance between the extremes of scientific innovation and the established rules of law. continued at link above | |
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I know when a company wants to do something they do it so I not banking it's a forever thing. On June 13, 2013, in the case of the Association for Molecular Pathology v. Myriad Genetics, Inc., the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that human genes cannot be patented in the U.S. because DNA is a "product of nature." The Court decided that because nothing new is created when discovering a gene, there is no intellectual property to protect, so patents cannot be granted. Prior to this ruling, more than 4,300 human genes were patented. The Supreme Court's decision invalidated those gene patents, making the genes accessible for research and for commercial genetic testing. The Supreme Court's ruling did allow that DNA manipulated in a lab is eligible to be patented because DNA sequences altered by humans are not found in nature. The Court specifically mentioned the ability to patent a type of DNA known as complementary DNA (cDNA). This synthetic DNA is produced from the molecule that serves as the instructions for making proteins (called messenger RNA). https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/p...enepatents All laboratories that perform health-related testing, including genetic testing, are subject to federal regulatory standards called the Clinical Laboratory Improvement Amendments (CLIA) or even stricter state requirements. CLIA standards cover how tests are performed, the qualifications of laboratory personnel, and quality control and testing procedures for each laboratory. By controlling the quality of laboratory practices, CLIA standards are designed to ensure the analytical validity of genetic tests. | |
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I always thought I had more Indigenous American than European DNA, but it's the opposite:
64% sub-Saharan African 18% European 16% Indigenous American 2% Asian | |
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Oh, yeah how could I let my memory lapse so. I just watched the doc on this a few months ago. smh Henrietta Lacks (born Loretta Pleasant; August 1, 1920 – October 4, 1951)[2] was an African American woman whose cancer cells were the source of the HeLa cell line, the first immortalized cell line and one of the most important cell lines in medical research. An immortalized cell line will reproduce indefinitely under specific conditions, and the HeLa cell line continues to be a source of invaluable medical data to the present day.[3] Lacks was the unwitting source of these cells from a tumor biopsied during treatment for cervical cancer at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland, U.S. in 1951. These cells were then cultured by George Otto Gey who created the cell line known as HeLa, which is still used for medical research.[4] As was then the practice, no consent was obtained to culture her cells, nor was she or her family compensated for their use. | |
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I've purchased an Ancestry subscription and have been satisfied with the value so far. [Edited 8/26/17 7:57am] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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21% Ivory Coast/Ghana 17% Nigeria 13% Cameroon 13% Ireland 9% UK ...With traces of other West African and Mediterranean European markers.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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My sister recently did it and a few of my other family members. I will be getting the kit eventually. | |
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I was beginning to think that maybe there was a mailman or milkman somewhere down the line, that my Momma didn't tell us about. | |
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PurpleJedi!!! you should definitely do it. I did it and it's pretty cool. I think everyone should do it. Especially if you are Black. Most black people have so many gaps in their family tree. I've learned a lot about my family. I also confirmed who my father was. His family actually contacted me when it was discovered we were a dna match. I've found out that I was related to some major historical figures in my tree on my white side of my family. I found some long lost photos of long lost descendents and some interesting stories. Be prepared for some surprise in your family tree. You can choose your friends but not who you are related to. For those of you who are paranoid about releasing your dna. Which i totally understand. You can always buy a credit card gift card and use that to buy your dna kit. You can use a fake name. You can also send your kit to a family member, friend, or a P.O. Box if your are concerned with privacy.
When doing your dna just remember your inherit half of your dna from your mother and half from your father. Your siblings don't always inherit the same portions of their parents dna. For example you may find native american in your dna and your full sibling may not. So if you are specifically looking for native american dna you may want to test both parents if they are living. If your parents arent available test all of your siblings and older aunts and uncles or grandparents.
The dna part is definitley cool, but you may have to atleast get a basic 6 month membership to get full access to alot of information. You can always cancel after 6 months. If you are tracing family in foreign countries you may need a world wide membership which is a little more. But with a basic membership often times you can get alot of info and photos of other people from looking at their family trees. you can compare your tree to other people that you are distantly related to. Lastly, you can load your ancestry dna information on to GED match and compare your dna to people who used other testing companies like 23andme and heritage. GED match is 100% free. Good luck everybody on the org who is interested. Make sure you share your findings.
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I've been curious about this but something in the back of my mind always told me it was probably a scam. I always said if I had some extra money to throw away, I would send in my cat's DNA and see what kind of results come back. "It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
"The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing." - Socrates | |
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Ok, you've motivated me. This weekend, I'm going to start, I'm doing both 23&me and AncestryDNA. | |
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