KingBAD said:

TD3 said:

In my humble opinion it's irresponsible to compare the Twin Tower collapse to a 27 story apartment building. . Totally different circumstances... for which we still don't know how the Grenfell Tower caught ablaze. Good gief.

Be that as it may....

As always, follow the money. https://www.theguardian.c...ire-safety

Its being reported that the plastic cladding -which is banned in the US and elsewhere in Europe- was also banned in the UK. Laws and regulations are only make a difference if they are enforced. Regulations are only enforced when there's due diligence. When over-site has the power to bring criminal / legal action when regulations are not followed. .. then we tend to see less of these types of tragedies.

These days we here a lot of talk about removing or weakening laws, regulations, and rules so that business can be more nimble, supposedly increase employment, and contribute to the national treasure. It appears the weakening or removing of safeguards only contribute to lining the pockets of the corporate executive branch and shareholders.

yeah cause i'm sure that if the towers colapsed from the heat of jet fuel over halfway up the buildins

this little apartment buildin should have surely fallen, and although the towers fell in less than two hours, they had... 'survivors' that were ready for interview... yoooooou knooooow, days later...

apparently they are hard to find in london...

https://me.me/i/where-are...e-15605962

[Edited 6/18/17 10:14am]

There is a massive difference. TD3 is right, you cannot compare the two. And yes, another case of business ignoring the law to maximise profit it seems. The whole thing was entirely preventable, that is what makes this so sad. As for the victims - I'm not really sure what you're hinting at but these people have lost absolutely everything. They were not at work. They were left with the clothes on their back - possibly their nightclothes - and they have been judged and ignored. What they want are answers - not to give sensationalist interviews to the press.

https://skwawkbox.org/201...-grenfell/

https://skwawkbox.org/201...l-support/

https://grenfellactiongro...with-fire/

https://www.thecanary.co/...ule-video/

Cloudbuster said:

maplenpg said:

If this is the legitimate site of the action group and the legitimate blog postings then it makes for a damning read. It seems that the blogger was threatened with legal action in 2013 for their inflammatory posts, yet they serve as evidence that this fire was completely preventable.

Curiously there was an application submitted for the demolition of Grenfell Tower three years ago.

https://www.rbkc.gov.uk/b...APR_123520

Cloudbuster said:

maplenpg said:

KingBAD said:

yeah cause i'm sure that if the towers colapsed from the heat of jet fuel over halfway up the buildins

this little apartment buildin should have surely fallen, and although the towers fell in less than two hours, they had... 'survivors' that were ready for interview... yoooooou knooooow, days later...

apparently they are hard to find in london...

https://me.me/i/where-are...e-15605962

[Edited 6/18/17 10:14am]

(1) There is a massive difference. TD3 is right, you cannot compare the two. And yes, another case of business ignoring the law to maximise profit it seems. The whole thing was entirely preventable, that is what makes this so sad. As for the victims - (2) I'm not really sure what you're hinting at but these people have lost absolutely everything. They were not at work. They were left with the clothes on their back - possibly their nightclothes - and they have been judged and ignored. What they want are answers - not to give sensationalist interviews to the press.

(1) the massive difference is the cheap appartment buildin that was slated to be demolished (shoulda been) burned for almost a day and it's skeleton stll stands (the twin towers were built for punishment... hahaha and fell in two)

(2) for only 59 people bein counted as dead (or what ever the number they say that don't include the HUNDREDS (six) that occupied the buildin...) if you had watched the attached vid you'd see the woman is tellin folks THERE ARE WAY MORE DEAD THAN BEIN REPORTED ergo "where are the survivors???

don't confuse me with someone who cares... but i do like to get the stories from the people and NOT the media that erbody seems to think give 'true reports'...

losin 'erthing they got' ain't the issue.... THEY LOST THEY LIVES and folks are tryin to keep the numbers down in the reports so they can collect goods for people who no longer are alive... PERIOD!!!

elites getting shot is more important.

Cloudbuster said:

morningsong said:

I'm sorry but the building in London didn't have a big metal flying object full of jet fuel slam into it. You must add that into your physics equation or your math will be wrong.

Don't be sorry.

http://drjudywood.com/art...crash.html

And on it goes.

maplenpg said:

Cloudbuster said:

Curiously there was an application submitted for the demolition of Grenfell Tower three years ago.

https://www.rbkc.gov.uk/b...APR_123520

Yes, I had seen this. It would make sense as it links with the timing of the redevelopment of the area. I bet a few wish they'd passed it now.

statements like this shows how innoscent the world must be...

this needed to happen FOR the redevelopment and gentrification

of the area....

Cloudbuster said:

https://grenfellactiongro...with-fire/

well knock me down and fuck me. that's intense.

Grenfell Action Group

Posted on November 20, 2016

. . . It is our conviction that a serious fire in a tower block or similar high density residential property is the most likely reason that those who wield power at the KCTMO will be found out and brought to justice! The Grenfell Action Group believe that the KCTMO narrowly averted a major fire disaster at Grenfell Tower in 2013 when residents experienced a period of terrifying power surges that were subsequently found to have been caused by faulty wiring. We believe that our attempts to highlight the seriousness of this event were covered up by the KCTMO with the help of the RBKC Scrutiny Committee who refused to investigate the legitimate concerns of tenants and leaseholders.

We have blogged many times on the subject of fire safety at Grenfell Tower and we believe that these investigations will become part of damning evidence of the poor safety record of the KCTMO should a fire affect any other of their properties and cause the loss of life that we are predicting:

A sad tragedy, i mean it. Are there innocent animals among the victims? i'm afraid the answer will be affirmative.

214 said:

2freaky4church1 said:

elites getting shot is more important.

don't go throwin me unda the bus...

i walk among the regular folks,

you know how easy it is to begin

a mob mentality... especially against

monarchs (and think we all the same)

maplenpg said:

214 said:

A sad tragedy, i mean it. Are there innocent animals among the victims? i'm afraid the answer will be affirmative.

One of the dead would not leave his two dogs behind.

God, i don't know what to say, it's beyond me. Sadly, i guess there are lots of dogs and cats amongst the victims.

Why Greenfell Towers Burn...re Safety.

The New York Times; By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK, DANNY HAKIM and JAMES GLANZJUNE 24, 2017

TD3 said:

Why Greenfell Towers Burn...re Safety.

The New York Times; By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK, DANNY HAKIM and JAMES GLANZJUNE 24, 2017

It's a mess, that's for sure. All other high rises tested so far have come back positive for flammable cladding. Some high rises are being evacuated, although the cynic in me thinks there are other reasons that the danger of fire is a good screen for.

My worry is for schools and hospitals, many of which have been clad because of the age of the buildings. I guess time will tell but someone needs to pay the price for the needless dead. You can be sure the government will do everything they can do avoid admitting to the blood on their hands.

Thank you for posting the article. I spent way too long reading the comments. It's funny what is said about us Brits.

https://skwawkbox.org/201...ding-regs/

XxAxX said:

well knock me down and fuck me.

!!!

https://skwawkbox.org/201...ompetence/

https://www.thecanary.co/...ell-tower/