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Thread started 05/05/17 9:40am

domainator2010

Humanity after the Internet

... as you guys probably know, I spend a lot of time ruminating on these type of thoughts,.... I think the time has come, for ALL of us *as humanity*, no matter which field we are employed in, or walk of life we come from, to ask, and hopefully answer, these questions.

Here are some of them:

1) Where will humanity be after automation, ie. after computers (and robots) take our jobs over? To what extent has this already happened in YOUR country (please mention which country you come from), and what is the future? And to what extent are YOU, personally, affected by it? (since there are people here like RodeoSchro who are in the corporate arena, and ThisOne also mentioned a boardroom recently, didn't she...?)

Where do you personally STAND on this issue? Do you think humans SHOULD, at all, do things machines can do? Isn't it BENEATH us?? smile

2) To what extent has e-commerce replaced physical shops in YOUR place of residence? Where is all this going? Will physical shops go away altogether?? A very pertinent question for a *Prince* board, I might add. smile

3) To what extent has the web replaced traditional media like paper newspapers/magazines, TV, radio, etc? Where do YOU, personally, get your news from? Do you like, or favour, the web?

...those are *some*. Feel free to ask more questions of your own...

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Reply #1 posted 05/05/17 1:25pm

morningsong

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domainator2010 said:

... as you guys probably know, I spend a lot of time ruminating on these type of thoughts,.... I think the time has come, for ALL of us *as humanity*, no matter which field we are employed in, or walk of life we come from, to ask, and hopefully answer, these questions.

Here are some of them:

1) Where will humanity be after automation, ie. after computers (and robots) take our jobs over? To what extent has this already happened in YOUR country (please mention which country you come from), and what is the future? And to what extent are YOU, personally, affected by it? (since there are people here like RodeoSchro who are in the corporate arena, and ThisOne also mentioned a boardroom recently, didn't she...?)

Where do you personally STAND on this issue? Do you think humans SHOULD, at all, do things machines can do? Isn't it BENEATH us?? smile

2) To what extent has e-commerce replaced physical shops in YOUR place of residence? Where is all this going? Will physical shops go away altogether?? A very pertinent question for a *Prince* board, I might add. smile

3) To what extent has the web replaced traditional media like paper newspapers/magazines, TV, radio, etc? Where do YOU, personally, get your news from? Do you like, or favour, the web?

...those are *some*. Feel free to ask more questions of your own...



Check this guy out. He'll give you some idea where things are headed.

Ray Kurzweil

It'll probably scare the living daylights out of you but at least you won't be all shocked and oblivious when much of it comes to pass.


It would be nice if we'd all work together to help solve all the bad problems of the world but that doesn't work, it never has so I'm no longer rumenating about such ideas. I'll do what I can in my little neck of the woods and hopefully that'll make somekind of ripple that helps more.

I'm all for moving outwards, flaws and all.



“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
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Reply #2 posted 05/05/17 1:43pm

CynicKill

The internet might be the least of our worries.

What's gonna happen to humanity after the oil runs out.

It looks like we're coming up on the end of oil in about 50 years if estimations are correct.

It's shocking that for something that took a few hundred million years to produce, something so valuable, will be used up in a few short centuries.

People fail to realize that it's a non renewable fuel source, and WAY undervalued.

They say money rules the world. They're wrong.

Oil rules the world.

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Reply #3 posted 05/06/17 12:29am

domainator2010

morningsong said:



Check this guy out. He'll give you some idea where things are headed.

Ray Kurzweil

I've heard that name, but - I want YOUR thoughts, as a general member of the public. Not his.
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Reply #4 posted 05/06/17 3:48am

EmmaMcG

domainator2010 said:

... as you guys probably know, I spend a lot of time ruminating on these type of thoughts,.... I think the time has come, for ALL of us *as humanity*, no matter which field we are employed in, or walk of life we come from, to ask, and hopefully answer, these questions.


Here are some of them:


1) Where will humanity be after automation, ie. after computers (and robots) take our jobs over? To what extent has this already happened in YOUR country (please mention which country you come from), and what is the future? And to what extent are YOU, personally, affected by it? (since there are people here like RodeoSchro who are in the corporate arena, and ThisOne also mentioned a boardroom recently, didn't she...?)


Where do you personally STAND on this issue? Do you think humans SHOULD, at all, do things machines can do? Isn't it BENEATH us?? smile


2) To what extent has e-commerce replaced physical shops in YOUR place of residence? Where is all this going? Will physical shops go away altogether?? A very pertinent question for a *Prince* board, I might add. smile


3) To what extent has the web replaced traditional media like paper newspapers/magazines, TV, radio, etc? Where do YOU, personally, get your news from? Do you like, or favour, the web?



...those are *some*. Feel free to ask more questions of your own...



I don't have any questions to add at the moment but I do have a few answers to the three you posed.

1. Machines will never fully replace humans in the workplace. In certain areas, machines can replace humans but machines will always rely on humans for maintenance and such so whereas some jobs will be lost to machines, others will be created for humans in other fields.
Personally, I'm not affected by machines and if anything, technology has only helped my line of work.

2. The likes of Amazon and iTunes has all but crippled the record store business. I can see how the ease of these services could possibly put other businesses in trouble and really it's just a matter of time.

3. Newspapers and such are also in decline thanks to the quick fix nature that the likes of Twitter has brought about. The problem with these instant news sources is that they can be totally wrong though so whereas newspapers have been known to make mistakes, it happens less often due to editors and fact checkers making sure the information is correct before printing. For that reason, I don't think newspapers will completely die out, at least not within the next 100 years, but their sales will continue to decline.
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Reply #5 posted 05/06/17 2:51pm

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Do not worry, we won't saty here for long. So we won'thave the chance to see that.

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Reply #6 posted 05/06/17 4:15pm

morningsong

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domainator2010 said:

morningsong said:




Check this guy out. He'll give you some idea where things are headed.



Ray Kurzweil




I've heard that name, but - I want YOUR thoughts, as a general member of the public. Not his.



To be honest I'm influenced by what I've read and heard. What sticks out the most to me is the possibility of the individual cloud. I think about that a lot these days. The idea that each person being able to download information directly into their brain similar to how we download information to our individual devices. A bit unnerving.

But as unnerving as new technology is there is no point in history that a machine has been more destructive to large groups of people like groups of people destroy or damage each other. There is no comparison at all. Our biggest issues are the crap we do to each other . We need to stop blaming our failings on technology.
“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
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Reply #7 posted 05/07/17 6:04am

domainator2010

EmmaMcG said: Personally, I'm not affected by machines and if anything, technology has only helped my line of work.

Interesting you say this - in fact, I'm still quite hazy as to what you actually do, but you've *mentioned* modelling at least, in the past, I've wondered this about you - if Pinstagram, and Interest, or whatever those things are called, and Facebook, and Faceparty, and blah blah blah, are Free - then who will pay you for your picture??!! Are you scared??

If you're an actress, then - um, I think the net has definitely *changed* your field beyond recognition - if you wanna make a TV show, you can simply *upload* to Youtube, and potentially make a million bucks!! - beats hunting around for a "deal", right? smile S'your opinion?

Amazon and itunes are a minute %age of what I was talking about - what about clothes shops, and shoe shops, and book shops, and phone shops, etc, etc, etc.??!! Which ones remain in YOUR city?? Which ones will?

...and what IS Twitter, btw? Can you explain it to me? YOU seem to get it, at least....?

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Reply #8 posted 05/07/17 6:33am

EmmaMcG

domainator2010 said:



EmmaMcG said: Personally, I'm not affected by machines and if anything, technology has only helped my line of work.




Interesting you say this - in fact, I'm still quite hazy as to what you actually do, but you've *mentioned* modelling at least, in the past, I've wondered this about you - if Pinstagram, and Interest, or whatever those things are called, and Facebook, and Faceparty, and blah blah blah, are Free - then who will pay you for your picture??!! Are you scared??


If you're an actress, then - um, I think the net has definitely *changed* your field beyond recognition - if you wanna make a TV show, you can simply *upload* to Youtube, and potentially make a million bucks!! - beats hunting around for a "deal", right? smile S'your opinion?



Amazon and itunes are a minute %age of what I was talking about - what about clothes shops, and shoe shops, and book shops, and phone shops, etc, etc, etc.??!! Which ones remain in YOUR city?? Which ones will?



...and what IS Twitter, btw? Can you explain it to me? YOU seem to get it, at least....?


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I've done a very small amount of modelling when I was in my late teens. I modelled lipstick and hair dye in a cosmetics brochure as well as a coat for the Littlewoods website. But they were about 8 years ago and I have no interest in modelling again because I found it to be very boring so I don't consider myself a model. I do still act from time to time in stage productions. I was in Grease and The Rocky Horror Show in recent years and I was also an extra in Fair City (an Irish soap opera) but I have no interest in pursuing more TV or movie work because again, I find it boring, not to mention time consuming. Luckily, I'm good with money so I can afford to work whenever I want so I can kind of pick and choose what I do. I also enjoy teaching drama classes at my old school and next year I'll be doing that again, as well as helping out with the music classes. So for those reasons, the internet hasn't changed my working habits.

Dublin is full of clothes shops so I don't see them going anytime soon. Same with shoe shops but if you're to believe my cousin, I'm personally responsible for keeping them in business. There are a number of big book shops around so again, they're not in danger, even if they may not do as much business as they used to. And there are more phone shops now than ever so again, no danger there.

As for Twitter, I don't see the point in people like you or I using it. I can see why the likes of musicians or companies would use it because it's a great tool for free advertising. But I don't get why regular people think others care what they're doing at any given time, or why they're so carefree about putting personal information online for all to see.
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Reply #9 posted 05/07/17 10:57am

domainator2010

I meant those questions in the abstract - not YOU specifically, necessarily. What will models IN GENERAL do? Do they have a livelihood after the internet?? There are hot chix available on the net in the thousands....? Will modelling as a *profession* disappear??


Do you think there is a reason for physical, say, clothes shops to survive? - where do YOU, personally, do YOUR shopping, in fact? (Physically or online?) And WHY? What about other items? How do you decide between the two?

Twitter - so that's what it is? You can post what you're doing right now on it? I don't gettit, and das da trooth - seems like the HUGEST bunch of STINKING BULLSHIT to me....?!! Why is that worth hundreds of millions of dollars??!!

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Reply #10 posted 05/07/17 11:20am

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..hey - I just Googled "fair city" - was just wondering whether it was a teen soap or not - doesn't appear to be....? I've often wondered whether things like this would work in India, with these kind of storylines n all.....so, fascinating to talk to somebody who's actually been in one.... smile

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Reply #11 posted 05/07/17 11:52am

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I think no matter how reliant we get on the internet, there will always be someone out there who will offer an alternative to all of it ... probably because that someone will be looking to make a buck or two.

I can picture it now ... hipsters in a hundred years time thinking how cool and kitsch it is to go to a 'shop' to make a purchase 'over the counter' ... "Ooo, look how cool and alternative we are. I might even use actual cash like they did in the old days".

You'll never completely eliminate shops anyway. Online is convenient but you'll always have the need for a pint of milk right there and then when you're on the drive home, or that late night kebab when you're on the way home from the pub.

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Reply #12 posted 05/07/17 11:57am

EmmaMcG

domainator2010 said:

I meant those questions in the abstract - not YOU specifically, necessarily. What will models IN GENERAL do? Do they have a livelihood after the internet?? There are hot chix available on the net in the thousands....? Will modelling as a *profession* disappear??




Do you think there is a reason for physical, say, clothes shops to survive? - where do YOU, personally, do YOUR shopping, in fact? (Physically or online?) And WHY? What about other items? How do you decide between the two?




Twitter - so that's what it is? You can post what you're doing right now on it? I don't gettit, and das da trooth - seems like the HUGEST bunch of STINKING BULLSHIT to me....?!! Why is that worth hundreds of millions of dollars??!!


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Well, I can only really speak for myself.

I don't think models are worried about the internet. If anything, it just affords them more exposure.

I personally never buy clothes online because if I'm going to spend extravagant sums of money on clothes, I'll want to try them on first. You can't do that over the net.

I'm not on Twitter myself but I think the reason it's worth so much is because there are millions, maybe billions (I don't know the exact numbers) of people who are and they are all available to be advertised at. Which makes Twitter a very valuable commodity for advertising agencies and businesses.
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Reply #13 posted 05/07/17 11:59am

EmmaMcG

domainator2010 said:

..hey - I just Googled "fair city" - was just wondering whether it was a teen soap or not - doesn't appear to be....? I've often wondered whether things like this would work in India, with these kind of storylines n all.....so, fascinating to talk to somebody who's actually been in one.... smile



I know this is off topic but quite frankly, I'm surprised Fair City has lasted as long as it has. It's terrible. Even by soap standards. The writing is laughable and the acting is very unconvincing. You should think yourself lucky that you don't have that kind of thing in India.
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Reply #14 posted 05/08/17 7:20am

domainator2010

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You'll never completely eliminate shops anyway. Online is convenient but you'll always have the need for a pint of milk right there and then when you're on the drive home, or that late night kebab when you're on the way home from the pub.

True - but what it has done to India is beyond belief!! We've jumped over one stage of human development, basically, and gone straight from unorganised sector small shops, jumping over corporate physical retail (ie. supermarkets and department stores),... - straight to online!! It's almost UNBELIEVABLE to see and experience what's happening around these parts!

...couldn't have been MORE welcome! smile

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Reply #15 posted 05/08/17 7:22am

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Reply #16 posted 05/08/17 7:23am

domainator2010

EmmaMcG said:

I'm not on Twitter myself but I think the reason it's worth so much is because there are millions, maybe billions (I don't know the exact numbers) of people who are and they are all available to be advertised at. Which makes Twitter a very valuable commodity for advertising agencies and businesses.

Hang on Hang on! - start from the beginning and explain to me what it IS first - AS I SAID.

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Reply #17 posted 05/08/17 10:06am

EmmaMcG

domainator2010 said:



EmmaMcG said:


I'm not on Twitter myself but I think the reason it's worth so much is because there are millions, maybe billions (I don't know the exact numbers) of people who are and they are all available to be advertised at. Which makes Twitter a very valuable commodity for advertising agencies and businesses.


Hang on Hang on! - start from the beginning and explain to me what it IS first - AS I SAID.



We've already established what it is. It's a "social" network for people who to post nonsense about their lives but is primarily used by businesses to promote and advertise.

But if you don't want to read what's already been written in this thread, a simple Google search will give you the information you're looking for.
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Reply #18 posted 05/08/17 10:29am

domainator2010

We haven't established anything - a "social network for people who to post nonsense about their lives" sounds like THIS site, and a hundred other sites out there.... what makes *Twitter* different? If people know that it is, in fact, NONSENSE that's being posted, then why would they read it??

I need a clearer explanation of the site's functionality - how do people there find each other, for instance? If I sign up, and there are 99999999 others there, how'm I supposed to find a friend, the one or ones *I* want to be friends with?? Can you query it, no. 2) ? - "How many crazy Irish girls out here like RED shoes?" smile ....stuff like that?

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Reply #19 posted 05/08/17 10:32am

domainator2010

...and most importantly, can these people not all simply TALK to each other, FACE TO FACE, in the FIRST place??!!!

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Reply #20 posted 05/08/17 11:38am

EmmaMcG

domainator2010 said:

We haven't established anything - a "social network for people who to post nonsense about their lives" sounds like THIS site, and a hundred other sites out there.... what makes *Twitter* different? If people know that it is, in fact, NONSENSE that's being posted, then why would they read it??


I need a clearer explanation of the site's functionality - how do people there find each other, for instance? If I sign up, and there are 99999 others there, how'm I supposed to find a friend, the one or ones *I* want to be friends with?? Can you query it, no. 2) ? - "How many crazy Irish girls out here like RED shoes?" smile ....stuff like that?



Sign up to it and see for yourself.
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Reply #21 posted 05/09/17 6:08am

domainator2010

I fail to see how I'm to make that decision without knowing anything about it....! Btw - you or anybody else: What does "following" someone mean?

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Reply #22 posted 05/10/17 10:34am

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^ Legalized stalking with boundaries.


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Reply #23 posted 05/11/17 2:27am

domainator2010

...and also, just to point out - Emma, in the same thread where you railed against people posting private information about themselves, you've written down just about your entire life history! - or at least, your *work* history!! Not the wisest move, girlfriend!

Edit it.

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Reply #24 posted 05/11/17 7:32am

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domainator2010 said:

...and also, just to point out - Emma, in the same thread where you railed against people posting private information about themselves, you've written down just about your entire life history! - or at least, your *work* history!! Not the wisest move, girlfriend!


Edit it.



I hardly "railed against it" but what little information I've given here is freely available elsewhere online so I'm hardly worried about it. Besides, that's only a fraction of my work history.
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Reply #25 posted 05/11/17 11:30am

domainator2010

...on the topic of which - WHY EXACTLY are our posts here Googlable?? How do we get them to stop it?

I also see that "GD" stops at PAge 2 and has for some time - does that mean that posts beyond Page 2 simply get deleted from the server? Actually I, personally would have no problems with that - but as it seems now, it seems the worst possible situation has come about: *I* can't read my old posts, (excepting using the Google search box maybe) but Google can!!!!!

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Reply #26 posted 05/11/17 12:07pm

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domainator2010 said:

...on the topic of which - WHY EXACTLY are our posts here Googlable?? How do we get them to stop it?


I also see that "GD" stops at PAge 2 and has for some time - does that mean that posts beyond Page 2 simply get deleted from the server? Actually I, personally would have no problems with that - but as it seems now, it seems the worst possible situation has come about: *I* can't read my old posts, (excepting using the Google search box maybe) but Google can!!!!!



It only stops at page two if you limit threads to the last 10 days. Change it to 90 days for example and there'll be more pages
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Reply #27 posted 05/12/17 5:53am

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ah you're right! thanks! smile

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