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Reply #60 posted 03/28/17 3:31pm

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I just hope the next season to be the penultimate season or the last. Story is getting tired by now

That could change quickly for me if they continue the story and show what´s going on in other areas and especially in the big cities but I guess that would be pretty expensive for a TV show.

I´m really curious if they´ll find a cure or if they´ll show how other places are coping with the apocalypse.

That´s why I´m one of the few fans here who actually don´t mind FTWD because it´s a different timeline and it shows other areas than the South and southern eastcoast.

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Reply #61 posted 03/28/17 3:35pm

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DaveT said:

214 said:

What's wrong with you boys, have you lost you love and interest for TWD? yesterday's episode was a great one, very exiting and wait for the extended finale, looks amazing.


I'm still really enjoying the show, but then I'm a big fan of the comics and the genre. However, I can see how some people have been turned off by this season. It shares the same issues as Season 2, story progress has been quite slow.

You could list the big plot points from the last 15 episodes and they wouldn't really be enough to sustain that amount of TV ... there's definitely been a fair bit of filler (which I've still enjoyed but its not to everyone's taste).

My concern now is that its not going to be justified by a big enough finale. Judging by the success they had with the Negan cliffhanger last summer I think they will repeat the same trick and leave us hanging ... again. I think the big 'twist' will be a zombified Sasha released back to Rick's group with a bag on her head ... bag comes off, someone gets bitten, episode fades to black ...

Agree, the show has become a tad slow but it´s nowhere near as slow as that forgettable season 2.

I like that there are so many different communities now and so many interesting main characters such as Negan , Ezekiel and the Oceanside community . I´m really curious as to what happens next.

I like your idea of a zombiefied Sasha but I think that they won´t get rid of her anytime soon.

I really liked the last episode but Rick and his people came across as real assholes this time. I mean, they acted almost like Negan and the Saviors...just terrorizing people and stealing their stuff instead of talking and negotiating at least a little bit.

Negan is starting to become more and more likeable to me and I like his anti-rape stance.

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Wonder what those scrapyard folks are up to...they are a bit weird. Rick doesn´t even know whether they are good fighters. Sure, he needs the numbers but they don´t mean much if those scrapyard people don´t know how to fight.

And with all those weapons, who can tell that they won´t turn against the other communities?

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Reply #62 posted 03/28/17 4:18pm

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They're still walking.

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Reply #63 posted 03/28/17 6:22pm

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They're still walking.

Ahaha that was funny man.

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Reply #64 posted 03/28/17 6:23pm

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KoolEaze said:

DaveT said:


I'm still really enjoying the show, but then I'm a big fan of the comics and the genre. However, I can see how some people have been turned off by this season. It shares the same issues as Season 2, story progress has been quite slow.

You could list the big plot points from the last 15 episodes and they wouldn't really be enough to sustain that amount of TV ... there's definitely been a fair bit of filler (which I've still enjoyed but its not to everyone's taste).

My concern now is that its not going to be justified by a big enough finale. Judging by the success they had with the Negan cliffhanger last summer I think they will repeat the same trick and leave us hanging ... again. I think the big 'twist' will be a zombified Sasha released back to Rick's group with a bag on her head ... bag comes off, someone gets bitten, episode fades to black ...

Agree, the show has become a tad slow but it´s nowhere near as slow as that forgettable season 2.

I like that there are so many different communities now and so many interesting main characters such as Negan , Ezekiel and the Oceanside community . I´m really curious as to what happens next.

I like your idea of a zombiefied Sasha but I think that they won´t get rid of her anytime soon.

I really liked the last episode but Rick and his people came across as real assholes this time. I mean, they acted almost like Negan and the Saviors...just terrorizing people and stealing their stuff instead of talking and negotiating at least a little bit.

Negan is starting to become more and more likeable to me and I like his anti-rape stance.

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Wonder what those scrapyard folks are up to...they are a bit weird. Rick doesn´t even know whether they are good fighters. Sure, he needs the numbers but they don´t mean much if those scrapyard people don´t know how to fight.

And with all those weapons, who can tell that they won´t turn against the other communities?

[Edited 3/28/17 15:46pm]

I loved that as well.

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Reply #65 posted 03/28/17 8:12pm

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KoolEaze said:

DaveT said:


I'm still really enjoying the show, but then I'm a big fan of the comics and the genre. However, I can see how some people have been turned off by this season. It shares the same issues as Season 2, story progress has been quite slow.

You could list the big plot points from the last 15 episodes and they wouldn't really be enough to sustain that amount of TV ... there's definitely been a fair bit of filler (which I've still enjoyed but its not to everyone's taste).

My concern now is that its not going to be justified by a big enough finale. Judging by the success they had with the Negan cliffhanger last summer I think they will repeat the same trick and leave us hanging ... again. I think the big 'twist' will be a zombified Sasha released back to Rick's group with a bag on her head ... bag comes off, someone gets bitten, episode fades to black ...

Agree, the show has become a tad slow but it´s nowhere near as slow as that forgettable season 2.

I like that there are so many different communities now and so many interesting main characters such as Negan , Ezekiel and the Oceanside community . I´m really curious as to what happens next.

I like your idea of a zombiefied Sasha but I think that they won´t get rid of her anytime soon.

I really liked the last episode but Rick and his people came across as real assholes this time. I mean, they acted almost like Negan and the Saviors...just terrorizing people and stealing their stuff instead of talking and negotiating at least a little bit.

Negan is starting to become more and more likeable to me and I like his anti-rape stance.

.

Wonder what those scrapyard folks are up to...they are a bit weird. Rick doesn´t even know whether they are good fighters. Sure, he needs the numbers but they don´t mean much if those scrapyard people don´t know how to fight.

And with all those weapons, who can tell that they won´t turn against the other communities?

[Edited 3/28/17 15:46pm]



this is part of the reason why i stopped enjoying the show as much, some of the things Rick & Co. have done to 'survive' are more or less the same as the things that Negan & Co. have done and are doing. personally, rather than going to war i'd prefer just move on and find a place where Negan doesn't live, although no matter where one goes i suppose there will always be 'Negans' in this violent new world just as there are in our world today.

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Reply #66 posted 03/28/17 8:13pm

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214 said:

KoolEaze said:

Agree, the show has become a tad slow but it´s nowhere near as slow as that forgettable season 2.

I like that there are so many different communities now and so many interesting main characters such as Negan , Ezekiel and the Oceanside community . I´m really curious as to what happens next.

I like your idea of a zombiefied Sasha but I think that they won´t get rid of her anytime soon.

I really liked the last episode but Rick and his people came across as real assholes this time. I mean, they acted almost like Negan and the Saviors...just terrorizing people and stealing their stuff instead of talking and negotiating at least a little bit.

Negan is starting to become more and more likeable to me and I like his anti-rape stance.

.

Wonder what those scrapyard folks are up to...they are a bit weird. Rick doesn´t even know whether they are good fighters. Sure, he needs the numbers but they don´t mean much if those scrapyard people don´t know how to fight.

And with all those weapons, who can tell that they won´t turn against the other communities?

[Edited 3/28/17 15:46pm]

I loved that as well.

i think Negan is still kind of a rapist; he doesn't seem to leave the women much choice about becoming his "wife"

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Reply #67 posted 03/28/17 8:37pm

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214 said:

I loved that as well.

i think Negan is still kind of a rapist; he doesn't seem to leave the women much choice about becoming his "wife"

True.

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Reply #68 posted 03/29/17 1:41am

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214 said:

I just hope the next season to be the penultimate season or the last. Story is getting tired by now


The Whisperer War which is the next big story arc in the comics which if done properly could give them another 3 season after this one ... one more season to wrap up All Out War with Negan, two more to cover the Whisperer storyline.


The Whisperers are quite cool villains the likes of which the show hasn't done before ... but they're only believable as a clan of bad guys because of a time jump in the storyline (2 or 3 years I think); without that passing of time they aren't really viable. Would be interesting to see the time jump as well if they choose to keep it in.

Negan's continued story is also pretty cool. This is of course making the assumption that the show continues to follow the comic in broad terms ... it might not.

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Reply #69 posted 03/30/17 2:20am

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DaveT said:

214 said:

I just hope the next season to be the penultimate season or the last. Story is getting tired by now


The Whisperer War which is the next big story arc in the comics which if done properly could give them another 3 season after this one ... one more season to wrap up All Out War with Negan, two more to cover the Whisperer storyline.


The Whisperers are quite cool villains the likes of which the show hasn't done before ... but they're only believable as a clan of bad guys because of a time jump in the storyline (2 or 3 years I think); without that passing of time they aren't really viable. Would be interesting to see the time jump as well if they choose to keep it in.

Negan's continued story is also pretty cool. This is of course making the assumption that the show continues to follow the comic in broad terms ... it might not.

I don´t follow the comics but I have heard and read about the Whisperers. But why would they be more believable as villains after a time jump? Couldn´t they just show them a little bit first and then introduce them properly after a few more episodes?

By the way, I can´t believe that this season is almost over. I understand that they needed a couple of episodes to build up some tension before the big war against Negan but now there´s only ONE episode left. I meam, how much can happen in just one episode for them to create a good cliffhanger?

Do you have any theories why FTWD is so unpopular even though it´s basically the same team behind that storyline as the TWD team? I quite like FTWD but most fans seem to hate it with a passion. lol

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Reply #70 posted 03/30/17 3:30am

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KoolEaze said:

DaveT said:


The Whisperer War which is the next big story arc in the comics which if done properly could give them another 3 season after this one ... one more season to wrap up All Out War with Negan, two more to cover the Whisperer storyline.


The Whisperers are quite cool villains the likes of which the show hasn't done before ... but they're only believable as a clan of bad guys because of a time jump in the storyline (2 or 3 years I think); without that passing of time they aren't really viable. Would be interesting to see the time jump as well if they choose to keep it in.

Negan's continued story is also pretty cool. This is of course making the assumption that the show continues to follow the comic in broad terms ... it might not.

I don´t follow the comics but I have heard and read about the Whisperers. But why would they be more believable as villains after a time jump? Couldn´t they just show them a little bit first and then introduce them properly after a few more episodes?

By the way, I can´t believe that this season is almost over. I understand that they needed a couple of episodes to build up some tension before the big war against Negan but now there´s only ONE episode left. I meam, how much can happen in just one episode for them to create a good cliffhanger?

Do you have any theories why FTWD is so unpopular even though it´s basically the same team behind that storyline as the TWD team? I quite like FTWD but most fans seem to hate it with a passion. lol


If you've not read the comics and you like the TV show you should definitely give them a look. It'll be an interesting take on storylines you're already familiar with.

The Whisperers behaviour is quite extreme in terms of shedding their humanity. I don't think this sort of turn would be believable unless significant time had passed since 'normal' life collapsed. Bit like the weird speech patterns the junkyard clan have ... surely it would take years for people to alter their behaviour this way.

This season has motored by!! I thought we could have done with maybe one or two more Negan episodes to try and understand him a bit better ... I love the character and JDM's performance but he's still a bit too two-dimensional at the mo. We'll have to see what the finale brings.

I don't think FTWD is as bad as folks say, but its no WD. To me its missing that great mix of light and dark moments, a bit of hope to keep you going ... its all bad news which can get a bit depressing. The biggest difference though is the cast. I think WD got lightning in a bottle with the actors they've been able to secure, and it can't be repeated. That more than anything makes WD stand out, the performances of the amazing cast.

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Reply #71 posted 03/30/17 9:21am

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Agree with the lightning in a bottle characterization of the cast of TWD. And I think that's what I've been missing this past season - that group feeling where they are all involved, playing off each other with that amazing chemistry.

This latest season has split them up geographically and the episodes jump back and forth between their individual storylines which to me felt tedious.

Anyway I think we all know by now there is NO chance they will wrap up the plot this Sunday, so, another annoying cliff hanger for sure
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Reply #72 posted 03/30/17 9:50am

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rOuwEYTvYk

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Reply #73 posted 03/31/17 2:51pm

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DaveT said:

214 said:

I just hope the next season to be the penultimate season or the last. Story is getting tired by now


The Whisperer War which is the next big story arc in the comics which if done properly could give them another 3 season after this one ... one more season to wrap up All Out War with Negan, two more to cover the Whisperer storyline.


The Whisperers are quite cool villains the likes of which the show hasn't done before ... but they're only believable as a clan of bad guys because of a time jump in the storyline (2 or 3 years I think); without that passing of time they aren't really viable. Would be interesting to see the time jump as well if they choose to keep it in.

Negan's continued story is also pretty cool. This is of course making the assumption that the show continues to follow the comic in broad terms ... it might not.

An what happens with Negan?

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Reply #74 posted 04/01/17 12:25pm

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214 said:

DaveT said:


The Whisperer War which is the next big story arc in the comics which if done properly could give them another 3 season after this one ... one more season to wrap up All Out War with Negan, two more to cover the Whisperer storyline.


The Whisperers are quite cool villains the likes of which the show hasn't done before ... but they're only believable as a clan of bad guys because of a time jump in the storyline (2 or 3 years I think); without that passing of time they aren't really viable. Would be interesting to see the time jump as well if they choose to keep it in.

Negan's continued story is also pretty cool. This is of course making the assumption that the show continues to follow the comic in broad terms ... it might not.

An what happens with Negan?


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After both sides lose alot of folk, Rick appeals to Negan that they can't go on fighting. The penny finally drops with Negan and he gets it, and it looks like he's about to come to an agreement with Rick to end all the hostility. Negan and Rick go to shake hands and at the last moment Rick cuts his throat with a concealed knife (or so you think)...

... jump to two/three years later. Negan survived and is in 'jail' at Hilltop. He has a chance to escape but doesnt take it as he's trying to prove to Rick he can be trusted now. Eventually the Whisperer War kicks off and Rick lets him out under Dwight's guard because they need fighters. Negan then fights alongside Ricks group, which is pretty awesome ... especially the moment he is finally reunited with Lucille biggrin

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Reply #75 posted 04/02/17 3:03pm

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214 said:

An what happens with Negan?


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After both sides lose alot of folk, Rick appeals to Negan that they can't go on fighting. The penny finally drops with Negan and he gets it, and it looks like he's about to come to an agreement with Rick to end all the hostility. Negan and Rick go to shake hands and at the last moment Rick cuts his throat with a concealed knife (or so you think)...

... jump to two/three years later. Negan survived and is in 'jail' at Hilltop. He has a chance to escape but doesnt take it as he's trying to prove to Rick he can be trusted now. Eventually the Whisperer War kicks off and Rick lets him out under Dwight's guard because they need fighters. Negan then fights alongside Ricks group, which is pretty awesome ... especially the moment he is finally reunited with Lucille biggrin

Interesting, but what else? he got back his Lucille and...

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Reply #76 posted 04/03/17 3:35pm

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Nope didn't watch, but yeah I know already, now I don't know if I'm ever going back. neutral

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Reply #77 posted 04/03/17 5:01pm

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i dunno. mixed feelings about that finale. when people go to war, everyone loses.

history has proven again and again that when we smack down a negan, another asshole dictator type will pop up just as sure as the sun rises.

but then again, all it takes for 'evil' to prevail is for people of good conscience to do nothing and let it happen.

can't really say i'm looking forward to season eight. hope they stop involving animals in these blood soaked festivities. horses in battle has never been fair to horses, using Shiva as a weapon isn't fair either. not cool.

i guess it always has been and always will be about who can bite the hardest, the longest. bah. this nature of life thing is tiresome.

ps: wasn't Daryl hot???? smile

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Reply #78 posted 04/03/17 5:25pm

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XxAxX said:

i dunno. mixed feelings about that finale. when people go to war, everyone loses.

history has proven again and again that when we smack down a negan, another asshole dictator type will pop up just as sure as the sun rises.

but then again, all it takes for 'evil' to prevail is for people of good conscience to do nothing and let it happen.

can't really say i'm looking forward to season eight. hope they stop involving animals in these blood soaked festivities. horses in battle has never been fair to horses, using Shiva as a weapon isn't fair either. not cool.

i guess it always has been and always will be about who can bite the hardest, the longest. bah. this nature of life thing is tiresome.

ps: wasn't Daryl hot???? smile

It is. I'm sad for Sasha,actually this last episode was more all about Sasha. I'm sorry for her, but thanks to her sacrifice they got saved. Beautiful song the one that Sasha was listening to.

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Reply #79 posted 04/04/17 1:16am

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214 said:

DaveT said:


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After both sides lose alot of folk, Rick appeals to Negan that they can't go on fighting. The penny finally drops with Negan and he gets it, and it looks like he's about to come to an agreement with Rick to end all the hostility. Negan and Rick go to shake hands and at the last moment Rick cuts his throat with a concealed knife (or so you think)...

... jump to two/three years later. Negan survived and is in 'jail' at Hilltop. He has a chance to escape but doesnt take it as he's trying to prove to Rick he can be trusted now. Eventually the Whisperer War kicks off and Rick lets him out under Dwight's guard because they need fighters. Negan then fights alongside Ricks group, which is pretty awesome ... especially the moment he is finally reunited with Lucille biggrin

Interesting, but what else? he got back his Lucille and...


They are involved in a big battle with the Whisperers. Negan is facing off with their leader, this massive guy ... Dwight sees him struggling so shouts over and throws Lucille to him. Negan catches it and is 'reunited', then goes to town on this guy turning the tide of the fight. But just as he goes to finish the guy off Lucille cracks and snaps in half.

Lucille being named after his wife who died of cancer at the outset of the troubles, Negan is pretty upset and he has a burial for 'her' where he gets to say goodbye.

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Reply #80 posted 04/04/17 1:30am

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XxAxX said:

i dunno. mixed feelings about that finale. when people go to war, everyone loses.

history has proven again and again that when we smack down a negan, another asshole dictator type will pop up just as sure as the sun rises.

but then again, all it takes for 'evil' to prevail is for people of good conscience to do nothing and let it happen.

can't really say i'm looking forward to season eight. hope they stop involving animals in these blood soaked festivities. horses in battle has never been fair to horses, using Shiva as a weapon isn't fair either. not cool.

i guess it always has been and always will be about who can bite the hardest, the longest. bah. this nature of life thing is tiresome.

ps: wasn't Daryl hot???? smile


I don't see it like that. Ezekial saved Shiva's life, so I see it as Shiva returning the favour and going to battle for the people she cares about ... even if she is just a tiger! biggrin And lets best honest, it was super cool seeing a tiger take it to the Saviours!!

Mixed feelings about the finale. Most of the 'twists' you could see coming. It was obvious Sasha was for the chop, that the Junkyard crew weren't all they seemed, that nothing was going to happen to Carl or Rick, and Hilltop and Kingdom would turn up last minute to save the day.

It was also a total eyeroll moment when no one was able to get a shot in on Negan despite how exposed he was, no one saw a massive tiger coming in to battle until she was pretty much on top of one of the Saviours, and Rick seemed to magically heal from his gunshot wound ... very poor writing there.



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This season has been shite. Really Shite.



The producers have made the mistake of taking it towards the Fear the Walking Dead style, which is a mistake because taht show is terrible.



They have been doing too mch touchy feely shite between the characters, cdrawing out emotional love scenes and shit like that, tha's not why people watch the walking dead.



The zombies have stopped being a threat ,they are dispatched with such ease that they may as well not be there, and the humans they keep coming across, in seemingly the most populated few miles on the planet, are just silly pantomime vilains with tigers and shit and silly language that has taken abouit a year to evolve.

And let's not mention the fact that they have stretched at most 7 shows out into a full season, with a mid season break in the middle of it. The pacing is glacial, padded out beyond belief, there are too many elements now to dedicate a full show to one thing,. Especially when it's padded out with mills and boon touchy feely shit about characters you couldn't give a flying fuck about.



And the fact that they chickened out of stoving Carl's head in speaks volumes.



I have been watching since season 1, I won't be watching the next season.

[Edited 4/4/17 3:45am]

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RicoN said:



This season has been shite. Really Shite.



The producers have made the mistake of taking it towards the Fear the Walking Dead style, which is a mistake because taht show is terrible.



They have been doing too mch touchy feely shite between the characters, cdrawing out emotional love scenes and shit like that, tha's not why people watch the walking dead.



The zombies have stopped being a threat ,they are dispatched with such ease that they may as well not be there, and the humans they keep coming across, in seemingly the most populated few miles on the planet, are just silly pantomime vilains with tigers and shit and silly language that has taken abouit a year to evolve.

And let's not mention the fact that they have stretched at most 7 shows out into a full season, with a mid season break in the middle of it. The pacing is glacial, padded out beyond belief, there are too many elements now to dedicate a full show to one thing,. Especially when it's padded out with mills and boon touchy feely shit about characters you couldn't give a flying fuck about.



And the fact that they chickened out of stoving Carl's head in speaks volumes.



I have been watching since season 1, I won't be watching the next season.

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I don't think you can say they 'chickened out' of that ... it was never written that way on the page so its not like they backed away from it.

Carl is a major play in upcoming storylines, so killing him would knacker a lot of the future material. And if Negan had done it people would just moan that it was a repeat of what they did to Glenn and Abe in the season opener.

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Reply #83 posted 04/04/17 5:11am

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DaveT said:

RicoN said:



This season has been shite. Really Shite.



The producers have made the mistake of taking it towards the Fear the Walking Dead style, which is a mistake because taht show is terrible.



They have been doing too mch touchy feely shite between the characters, cdrawing out emotional love scenes and shit like that, tha's not why people watch the walking dead.



The zombies have stopped being a threat ,they are dispatched with such ease that they may as well not be there, and the humans they keep coming across, in seemingly the most populated few miles on the planet, are just silly pantomime vilains with tigers and shit and silly language that has taken abouit a year to evolve.

And let's not mention the fact that they have stretched at most 7 shows out into a full season, with a mid season break in the middle of it. The pacing is glacial, padded out beyond belief, there are too many elements now to dedicate a full show to one thing,. Especially when it's padded out with mills and boon touchy feely shit about characters you couldn't give a flying fuck about.



And the fact that they chickened out of stoving Carl's head in speaks volumes.



I have been watching since season 1, I won't be watching the next season.

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I don't think you can say they 'chickened out' of that ... it was never written that way on the page so its not like they backed away from it.

Carl is a major play in upcoming storylines, so killing him would knacker a lot of the future material. And if Negan had done it people would just moan that it was a repeat of what they did to Glenn and Abe in the season opener.



but you agree about the rest.

your point raises the complete absence of peril from the show now though. I don't think any of the main characters are going to die (I don't read the comics by the way).

And Carl being a major player probably cements my decision not to watch any more!

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Reply #84 posted 04/04/17 6:02am

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I don't think you can say they 'chickened out' of that ... it was never written that way on the page so its not like they backed away from it.

Carl is a major play in upcoming storylines, so killing him would knacker a lot of the future material. And if Negan had done it people would just moan that it was a repeat of what they did to Glenn and Abe in the season opener.



but you agree about the rest.

your point raises the complete absence of peril from the show now though. I don't think any of the main characters are going to die (I don't read the comics by the way).

And Carl being a major player probably cements my decision not to watch any more!


I'd agree that the pacing this year has been a hot mess, the zombies are now superfluous to the story and might as well not be there, and the decision to have the Junkyard gang talk like cave people was the worst decision they've made to date. Despite this, a bad TWD season is still better than 95% of other televsiion.

I really like the emotional scenes to. The acting is top notch and I don't mind my heart strings getting tugged; the Maggie/Daryl root cellar scene where Daryl finally broke down was superb, as was Morgan's breakdown and Carol's exile.

Re. the main characters dying, without giving too much away from having read the comics, no one is safe other than Rick and Carl. I can accept this central conceit; its Rick and Carl's story so killing them off, while shocking, wouldn't make alot of sense ... it would be like doing a Batman TV show and killing him off halfway through. Having invested this much time in their story, killing them cheaply for shock value would be a complete waste.

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Reply #85 posted 04/04/17 6:34am

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prior to this season, from the beginning we were given a feeling of comradere & family among the evolving group. Leading up to Alexandria, the group was individually fleshed out, we got great background peaks into peoples lives, and then seeing them connect as human in that world. So by the time they got to Alexandria. There was a good feeling. They had homes. And there were other good people there. But now it is all busted up, everyone is scattered, Glenn is gone, it is sorta loosing the glue.

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Reply #86 posted 04/04/17 6:42am

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DaveT said:

RicoN said:



but you agree about the rest.

your point raises the complete absence of peril from the show now though. I don't think any of the main characters are going to die (I don't read the comics by the way).

And Carl being a major player probably cements my decision not to watch any more!


I'd agree that the pacing this year has been a hot mess, the zombies are now superfluous to the story and might as well not be there, and the decision to have the Junkyard gang talk like cave people was the worst decision they've made to date. Despite this, a bad TWD season is still better than 95% of other televsiion.

I really like the emotional scenes to. The acting is top notch and I don't mind my heart strings getting tugged; the Maggie/Daryl root cellar scene where Daryl finally broke down was superb, as was Morgan's breakdown and Carol's exile.

Re. the main characters dying, without giving too much away from having read the comics, no one is safe other than Rick and Carl. I can accept this central conceit; its Rick and Carl's story so killing them off, while shocking, wouldn't make alot of sense ... it would be like doing a Batman TV show and killing him off halfway through. Having invested this much time in their story, killing them cheaply for shock value would be a complete waste.



So Machone dies then?

Don't answer, just don't say anything about the future at all! smile

The show has had it's time, it needs to move away from people and do more about the environment. People need to struggle for bog roll and cigarettes etc.



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Reply #87 posted 04/04/17 6:54am

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RicoN said:

DaveT said:


I'd agree that the pacing this year has been a hot mess, the zombies are now superfluous to the story and might as well not be there, and the decision to have the Junkyard gang talk like cave people was the worst decision they've made to date. Despite this, a bad TWD season is still better than 95% of other televsiion.

I really like the emotional scenes to. The acting is top notch and I don't mind my heart strings getting tugged; the Maggie/Daryl root cellar scene where Daryl finally broke down was superb, as was Morgan's breakdown and Carol's exile.

Re. the main characters dying, without giving too much away from having read the comics, no one is safe other than Rick and Carl. I can accept this central conceit; its Rick and Carl's story so killing them off, while shocking, wouldn't make alot of sense ... it would be like doing a Batman TV show and killing him off halfway through. Having invested this much time in their story, killing them cheaply for shock value would be a complete waste.



So Machone dies then?

Don't answer, just don't say anything about the future at all! smile

The show has had it's time, it needs to move away from people and do more about the environment. People need to struggle for bog roll and cigarettes etc.



LoL biggrin No more spoilers from me!

Worth pointing out though that in the comic Michonne and Rick haven't shacked up. In the comic Andrea is still alive and has been in a relationship with Rick since they first arrived at Alexandria. Michonne has a thing with Ezekial, but she leaves, doing the whole 'I don't deserve happiness' thing.

You'd have thought bog roll would be well up the list of priorities but seemingly not. But then there are a few glaring logistic inaccuracies the show has gotten away with ... wouldn't have all the cars on the side of the road have seized up by now?

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Reply #88 posted 04/04/17 7:39am

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DaveT said:

RicoN said:



So Machone dies then?

Don't answer, just don't say anything about the future at all! smile

The show has had it's time, it needs to move away from people and do more about the environment. People need to struggle for bog roll and cigarettes etc.



LoL biggrin No more spoilers from me!

Worth pointing out though that in the comic Michonne and Rick haven't shacked up. In the comic Andrea is still alive and has been in a relationship with Rick since they first arrived at Alexandria. Michonne has a thing with Ezekial, but she leaves, doing the whole 'I don't deserve happiness' thing.

You'd have thought bog roll would be well up the list of priorities but seemingly not. But then there are a few glaring logistic inaccuracies the show has gotten away with ... wouldn't have all the cars on the side of the road have seized up by now?

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Well that is one bonus, I fooking hated Andrea!

I try not to concern myself too much with the bog roll principle, but it would make the show so much better

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Reply #89 posted 04/04/17 8:33am

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prior to this season, from the beginning we were given a feeling of comradere & family among the evolving group. Leading up to Alexandria, the group was individually fleshed out, we got great background peaks into peoples lives, and then seeing them connect as human in that world. So by the time they got to Alexandria. There was a good feeling. They had homes. And there were other good people there. But now it is all busted up, everyone is scattered, Glenn is gone, it is sorta loosing the glue.




Alexandria makes absolutely no sense now. They were an isolated community that had no clue about the dangers that exist in the outside world until Rick and Co arrive. Then you get massive hoards, the Wolves, several other communities that do trading, and Negan's massive group. How the heck did Alexandria remain so isolated and clueless for so long especially if they had their own scouts who went out foraging frequently?
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