The other self-locked. So to continue.





Well I'm thinking he didn't have as large of crew as the other captians, so for every person he lost his percentage would list as higher. Both Archer and Janeway were in unknown territory and encountered more unfriendly circumstances also. ya know with that in mind I think I'm changing my mind about us earthlings just willy nilly contacting anything out there.

morningsong said:

The other self-locked. So to continue.

kpowers said: Yeah I watched all 4 seasons of Enterprise and it doesn't seem like 67% of his crew died.

Well I'm thinking he didn't have as large of crew as the other captians, so for every person he lost his percentage would list as higher. Both Archer and Janeway were in unknown territory and encountered more unfriendly circumstances also. ya know with that in mind I think I'm changing my mind about us earthlings just willy nilly contacting anything out there.

I think Janeway lost most of her crew when Voyager was propelled to the Delta Quadrant.

morningsong said:

The other self-locked. So to continue.

kpowers said: Yeah I watched all 4 seasons of Enterprise and it doesn't seem like 67% of his crew died.

Well I'm thinking he didn't have as large of crew as the other captians, so for every person he lost his percentage would list as higher. Both Archer and Janeway were in unknown territory and encountered more unfriendly circumstances also. ya know with that in mind I think I'm changing my mind about us earthlings just willy nilly contacting anything out there.

What exactly do you mean?

Well there are the Romulans, Klingons and of course the Cardassian types, that are kept in check by basically military might. And to borrow from StarGate you have the Goa'uld and the Wraith, Theyr're kind of nasty. Hell the Wraith really creeped me out.

But mostly its from listening to a podcast talking about life on Enceladus.

morningsong said:

Well there are the Romulans, Klingons and of course the Cardassian types, that are kept in check by basically military might. And to borrow from StarGate you have the Goa'uld and the Wraith, Theyr're kind of nasty. Hell the Wraith really creeped me out. But mostly its from listening to a podcast talking about life on Enceladus.

Oh yeah the Borg and the Wraith are the scraiest bad guys aliens.

The Vidians on Star Trek Voyager were pretty scary too with them capturing people for their organs

kpowers said:

Oh yeah.

morningsong said:

The other self-locked. So to continue.

kpowers said: Yeah I watched all 4 seasons of Enterprise and it doesn't seem like 67% of his crew died.

Well I'm thinking he didn't have as large of crew as the other captians, so for every person he lost his percentage would list as higher. Both Archer and Janeway were in unknown territory and encountered more unfriendly circumstances also. ya know with that in mind I think I'm changing my mind about us earthlings just willy nilly contacting anything out there.

Well if Archer had 100 crew members I don't remember 67 crew members dying.

Have you seen this on youtube Starfleet Accademy, made up of clips from a video game

kpowers said:

morningsong said:

The other self-locked. So to continue. Well I'm thinking he didn't have as large of crew as the other captians, so for every person he lost his percentage would list as higher. Both Archer and Janeway were in unknown territory and encountered more unfriendly circumstances also. ya know with that in mind I think I'm changing my mind about us earthlings just willy nilly contacting anything out there.

Well if Archer had 100 crew members I don't remember 67 crew members dying.

I don't know. It does seem that a lot of the crew did get killed though. I don't think he had even 100 crew members but I can't say for sure.

morningsong said:

kpowers said:

Well if Archer had 100 crew members I don't remember 67 crew members dying.

I don't know. It does seem that a lot of the crew did get killed though. I don't think he had even 100 crew members but I can't say for sure.

Really? When. Seemed more died on the original series.

kpowers said:

Have you seen this on youtube Starfleet Accademy, made up of clips from a video game

I did see this listed on YT but I didn't watch it because I'm not familiar with video games in general to even know what I'm looking at so I just left it alone. But I'll look a bit later.

kpowers said:

morningsong said:

I don't know. It does seem that a lot of the crew did get killed though. I don't think he had even 100 crew members but I can't say for sure.

Really? When. Seemed more died on the original series.

I keep reading the the Xindi wars pushed up the totals.

morningsong said:

kpowers said:

Have you seen this on youtube Starfleet Accademy, made up of clips from a video game

I did see this listed on YT but I didn't watch it because I'm not familiar with video games in general to even know what I'm looking at so I just left it alone. But I'll look a bit later.

Yeah me too. It's two hours long. I'm gonna check it out since Kirk/Sulu/Chekov are in it.

morningsong said:

kpowers said:

Really? When. Seemed more died on the original series.

I keep reading the the Xindi wars pushed up the totals.

Well yeah on the attack on Earth, but not on Enterprise. Could be wrong. Seem kinda unbelieveable Earth only had 2 ships (Columbia) to defend Earth against the Xindi threat

kpowers said:

morningsong said:

I don't know. It does seem that a lot of the crew did get killed though. I don't think he had even 100 crew members but I can't say for sure.

Really? When. Seemed more died on the original series.

If I'm reading this right a total of 57 casualties out of a crew of 85 in Enterprise. Most during the Xindi war (27) and then another large amount at Azati Prime(15) and then the remainder(15) scattered throughout the series. In TOS Kirk had a crew of 400+ Picard had over 1,000. I don't remember Janeway's but I'm sure it was larger than 85.


http://memory-alpha.wikia...d_century)

kpowers said:

morningsong said:

I keep reading the the Xindi wars pushed up the totals.

Well yeah on the attack on Earth, but not on Enterprise. Could be wrong. Seem kinda unbelieveable Earth only had 2 ships (Columbia) to defend Earth against the Xindi threat

That first Xindi attack on Earth (Florida) was scary and spectacular.

Maybe I should say memorable instead of spectacular. It was definitely jaw dropping. Those mofos were not playing.

[Edited 10/3/16 17:51pm]

Found this article on-line 5 stupid things about Star Trek

Transporters


Simultaneously one of the coolest and least-reliable pieces of technology in the Star Trek universe is the transporter. Seriously, everything messes with a transporter's main function. Whether it's shields, atmospheric interference, or radiation, people are taking their lives into their hands whenever they step onto those transporter pads. The crew might end up with objects embedded in their bodies, split into good and evil versions of themselves, or transported to a mirror universe which sends their goateed evil counterparts to wreak havoc on the Enterprise. You want to know how to avoid all of those issues? Hop in a shuttlecraft.

All the aliens look alike


How is it that nearly every single alien encountered by the crews of the Enterprise, Voyager, or Deep Space Nine is somehow sporting the same physical structure? Two arms, two legs, one head, and standing upright is the way Star Trek has always liked its aliens. Throughout all of the series, something like over 50 alien species bear an exact or near exact resemblance to humans. It's not as if the human bipedal form is the greatest or most advantageous from an evolutionary perspective. Star Trek writers even attempted to acknowledge this in an episode of The Next Generation called "The Chase" that claimed that billions of years prior to the story, some race of ur-humanoids had seeded all the planets with their own DNA. This is a weak deus ex machina that is used to cover up for one thing: budget limits. Think about the rich variety of aliens in other science fiction properties like Dr. Who, or Star Wars. Star Trek should be more cognizant of this and take the time and money to get creative.

Humans are always right


It seems like nearly every episode of Star Trek features an alien race doing something based out of superstition, self-destructive impulses, bigotry, or misogyny. Every episode features a self-righteous scolding by the entirely unbiased and exceedingly decent crew of the Enterprise. In all the worlds that the crew encounters, can't they be taught something? They are, after all, supposed to be on a voyage of discovery "seeking out strange new worlds." Is that only so they can wag a finger at civilizations throughout the universe? The only person who ever seems to "learn" anything is Data, and he just continually discovers how being human is so awesome. That's a very flat learning curve. From the original 1960s series to its more contemporary peers, humans have seemed to have all the answers, even when they have come across omnipotent, omniscient antagonists like a Q.

The characters don't grow

Picture this: you're traveling through space (and occasionally through time) and seeing all sorts of amazing, once-in-a-lifetime events. Don't you think that would leave a lasting impression on you? And yet, the characters never seem to change to account for all of their extraordinary experiences. Kirk, McCoy, Picard, Riker, Laforge, Scott, etc. never change. It's like someone just hits the reset button after every adventure. That's not a story. It's a video game.




The stories are repeated again and again

You would think that traveling through the cosmos at faster-than-light speeds, seeking out strange new life forms would make for an interesting workday. And yet, the Star Trek writers' room must have a basket of character names, basic plots, and resolutions that they draw from in order to make all of the episodes. The repetitive nature of the plots with only minor permutations makes sitting down to watch an entire series a labor of love only for those obsessed with completing each series, not matter how hard the slog.

kpowers said:

So it looks like S1E2 Enterprise introduces the existance of The Ancient Ones that Krall in ST Beyond "inherited" his tech from.