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Thread started 09/24/16 9:21pm

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House of Healing: The Myth of the Angry Woman

Listen, I'm just a white gay dude in the northeast. But this series that Iyanla VanZant is doing on OWN on Fix My Life is just amazing.

It basically has a large group of black women who are labeled as angry. One is a girl I remember from a season of America's Next Top Model. Another is a former girlfriend of Rick Ross (the youngest of the women). Iyanla also pulls in black men who date white women, purposely bypassing the angry black woman, to do a few exercises.

Most of the women have unfinished emotional business from being molested as girls, impregnated, or otherwise abused. It's a fascinating journey. It's 4 parts total, and I think part 3 is tonight (Saturday). The 4th is next Saturday.

For me, I think there are some universal truths in there that anyone can benefit from. I've always said, the truth is the truth no matter where you hear it. And whether you like Iyanla or not, there is truth in these shows.

Anyone else watching it?

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Reply #1 posted 09/24/16 11:21pm

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Iyanla VanZant is awesome. I have one of her books.

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Reply #2 posted 09/25/16 5:45am

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TrivialPursuit said:

Listen, I'm just a white gay dude in the northeast. But this series that Iyanla VanZant is doing on OWN on Fix My Life is just amazing.

It basically has a large group of black women who are labeled as angry. One is a girl I remember from a season of America's Next Top Model. Another is a former girlfriend of Rick Ross (the youngest of the women). Iyanla also pulls in black men who date white women, purposely bypassing the angry black woman, to do a few exercises.

Most of the women have unfinished emotional business from being molested as girls, impregnated, or otherwise abused. It's a fascinating journey. It's 4 parts total, and I think part 3 is tonight (Saturday). The 4th is next Saturday.

For me, I think there are some universal truths in there that anyone can benefit from. I've always said, the truth is the truth no matter where you hear it. And whether you like Iyanla or not, there is truth in these shows.

Anyone else watching it?

I have a couple of thoughts about this....

I remember seeing Ms. VanZant when she was a regular on Ms. Winfrey talk show. I vaguely

remember her first show produced by Ms. Winfrey's, Harpo Productions. A couple of decades ago

HBO documentary revealed a non to flattering expose' of daytime talk shows (post Donahue era) format. Many of these shows aren't really concerned about helping anyone,... they exploit, manipulate, and use people pain and/or ignorance for a ratings and a paycheck. In other words, the pain and misfortune of others are well edited and scripted for drama. wink

Having said that...

I don't have the time or the space to in depth about Race, Gender, and Politcs of Anger. The trope of the angry black woman first became popularized on television on The Amos ’n’ Andy Show. The program, which was first serialized as a radio show and later brought to the small screen, featured the character Sapphire, the emasculating wife of George “Kingfish” Stevens. The finger-waving, neck-snapping Sapphire complained incessantly about her husband’s shortcomings. Amos ’n’ Andy, with its dim-witted, bumbling, oblivious black male characters and angry black wife, was a clean-faced, 20th-century version of the blackface performances first depicted in minstrel shows.

The face that Ms. VanZant pimped this deeply entrenched stereotype for "healing" purpose is pathetic. Welcome to the pseudo-psychological babbling of a women who's old enough to know better. Historically, Black men dressing up in drag portraying, salty tongue, take no prisoners "strong" Black women leaves me curious to what's really not being said. In order for some Black Men to find their backbone they have to put on a skirt? As a whole Black men in 2016 don't stand up for themselves, far too many don't bother to plan to take care of themselves.

My mother generation (born in 1920's) use to make excuses for Black men, my generation stopped listening to the "Woa Is Me", a long time ago.

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Reply #3 posted 09/25/16 12:22pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

Listen, I'm just a white gay dude in the northeast. But this series that Iyanla VanZant is doing on OWN on Fix My Life is just amazing.

It basically has a large group of black women who are labeled as angry. One is a girl I remember from a season of America's Next Top Model. Another is a former girlfriend of Rick Ross (the youngest of the women). Iyanla also pulls in black men who date white women, purposely bypassing the angry black woman, to do a few exercises.

Most of the women have unfinished emotional business from being molested as girls, impregnated, or otherwise abused. It's a fascinating journey. It's 4 parts total, and I think part 3 is tonight (Saturday). The 4th is next Saturday.

For me, I think there are some universal truths in there that anyone can benefit from. I've always said, the truth is the truth no matter where you hear it. And whether you like Iyanla or not, there is truth in these shows.

Anyone else watching it?



Thank you for the heads up. I will check it out.

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Reply #4 posted 09/29/16 9:24pm

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So far, I have watched all three episodes, and they have been very eye-opening. I can't wait to see the final episode.
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