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The VCR is dead. RIP VCR

Some sad news of sorts coming out of the news wires. While the media has been focused on the political conventions, various shootings around the USA and the world, some important news has surfaced from Japan that the last manufacturing of videocassette recorders is scheduled to conclude at the end of the month. After that, the last remaining manufacturer of VCR's, Funai Electric, will cease production.

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Reply #1 posted 07/23/16 12:12pm

domainator2010

Really? They waited that long....? I haven't used one in 15 years!!!.....

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Reply #2 posted 07/23/16 12:38pm

PliablyPurple

I thought I had read a few years ago that production of the blanks stopped, too. RIP, you inconvenient motherfucker.

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Reply #3 posted 07/23/16 2:02pm

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You can't even find blank videos tapes so it makes sense.

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Reply #4 posted 07/23/16 2:47pm

HuMpThAnG

gotta transfer my family home videos to dvd bawl!!!!

haven't own a VCR in decades bawl!!!!

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Reply #5 posted 07/23/16 2:49pm

HuMpThAnG

kpowers said:

You can't even find blank videos tapes so it makes sense.

i still have few

hell, i even have a rewinder still lol

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Reply #6 posted 07/23/16 3:01pm

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Well I still have my Beta machine and tapes lol RIP VCR sad

Image result for beta machine

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Reply #7 posted 07/23/16 3:11pm

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Last time i played a vhs wss in 2004 i think,
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

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Reply #8 posted 07/23/16 3:11pm

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HuMpThAnG said:

gotta transfer my family home videos to dvd bawl!!!!

haven't own a VCR in decades bawl!!!!

I got all my Prince stuff I recorded off the TV with my VHS transfer to DVD about 10 years ago. Good thing because I popped those old VHS tapes in and the picture and sound quality is horrible now. Tape don't last.

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Reply #9 posted 07/23/16 3:14pm

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HuMpThAnG said:

kpowers said:

You can't even find blank videos tapes so it makes sense.

i still have few

hell, i even have a rewinder still lol

I too but they have deteriorated over the years

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Reply #10 posted 07/25/16 3:07am

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I still have a Sony I bought in 2004. I still use it on occasion just to
record stuff when I'm away from home and I know I'm only gonna watch once and
erase. I have some stuff to transfer from vas to DVD but I damn sure not not gonna pay anyone else. I have to use 25 cords it seems like to transfer.
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Reply #11 posted 07/25/16 3:41am

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They said the same thing about 8-track players and you can still buy them today...VCR's ain't going anywhere...

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Reply #12 posted 07/25/16 7:07pm

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Chancellor said:

They said the same thing about 8-track players and you can still buy them today...VCR's ain't going anywhere...





eek

Must be online. lol
You sure you're not referring to cassette players?
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Reply #13 posted 07/26/16 10:26am

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HuMpThAnG said:

kpowers said:

You can't even find blank videos tapes so it makes sense.

i still have few

hell, i even have a rewinder still lol

Who you tellin! Me too! I even have a passel of blank VHS tapes, or did I throw them away? I can't remember. I was cleaning out my basement and found a rewinder new in the box.

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Reply #14 posted 07/26/16 10:40am

PliablyPurple

Remember when new movies on VHS were around a hundred bucks?


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Reply #15 posted 07/26/16 11:06am

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I finally got rid of my videotapes two years ago... razz lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #16 posted 07/26/16 11:24am

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Chancellor said:

They said the same thing about 8-track players and you can still buy them today...VCR's ain't going anywhere...

Where? I see them maybe at a garage sale or at a vintage independent record store. The tapes I see are from albums of the 70's. Do they put new music on 8 tracks??

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Reply #17 posted 07/26/16 11:55am

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PliablyPurple said:

Remember when new movies on VHS were around a hundred bucks?



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I remember seeing rental VHS for those prices. Imagine if they had DVDs and Blu Rays at that price now. I still use a VCR!. I guess it's the nostalgia factor and the fact you can find concerts and movies etc not on DVD etc or have edits etc. Plus they are easy to use and yeah the picture and sound isn't great but I think like with vinyl it's part of its charm.
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Reply #18 posted 07/26/16 12:03pm

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I paid $100 for I, Claudius on videotape... rolleyes lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #19 posted 07/26/16 12:12pm

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kpowers said:



Chancellor said:


They said the same thing about 8-track players and you can still buy them today...VCR's ain't going anywhere...



Where? I see them maybe at a garage sale or at a vintage independent record store. The tapes I see are from albums of the 70's. Do they put new music on 8 tracks??



There is absolutely no new music on 8 track. lol
Hell not even on cassette.
To my knowledge 1984 or 1985 was probably the last year music came out on 8 track.
My grandfather was a Gap Band fan and he had Gap Band 4 on 8 track. lol
That album was released in 1982.
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Reply #20 posted 07/26/16 12:26pm

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phunkdaddy said:

kpowers said:

Where? I see them maybe at a garage sale or at a vintage independent record store. The tapes I see are from albums of the 70's. Do they put new music on 8 tracks??

There is absolutely no new music on 8 track. lol Hell not even on cassette. To my knowledge 1984 or 1985 was probably the last year music came out on 8 track. My grandfather was a Gap Band fan and he had Gap Band 4 on 8 track. lol That album was released in 1982. [Edited 7/26/16 12:13pm]

Wrong! There IS new music on cassette!

Forget Vinyl, Let's Talk About The Cassette Comeback

jed shepherd and HETTIE

top me if you’ve heard this one: Vinyl is making a serious comeback. Ah, you have? Fair enough! Then let’s grab a seat on the beach, juice up the boombox with 8 “D” batteries, pop my new mix into the deck, and chat about the inevitable resurgence of cassette tapes.

In 2014 National Audio Company, one of the largest and busiest cassette manufacturers in the US, produced more than 10 million tapes. In 2015 their duplicated cassette sales increased 31% over 2014. So far in 2016, according to a company spokesperson, they’re well ahead of 2015.

Then you’ve got popular artists such as Eminem reissuing classic albumslike The Slim Shady LP on cassette, or Blink 182 producing cassette reissues of four of their earlier albums.

Artists like Blink 182 and Eminem are reissuing some of their classic albums on cassette | Image: SRCVinyl

Artists like Blink 182 and Eminem are reissuing some of their classic albums on cassette | Image: SRCVinyl

Peering beyond the mainstream, though, we’re seeing a surge of record labels popping up that are devoted almost exclusively to the cassette medium. And they’re thriving. One such label is London-based Post/Pop Records, founded and operated by Jed Shepherd.

I stumbled across Jed in the /CassetteCulture subreddit, where he was promoting a band called GUNSHIP. Their cassette release piqued my interest immediately. Why? Nevermind that its the perfect 80′s synthwave album that happened to be recorded in 2015, or that the band produces incredibly retro-tastic game inspired videos. The B side of the album wasn’t music at all. It was a playable version of a game calledAttack of the Mutant Camels for Commodore 64. Talk about unique!

GUNSHIP: My favorite album from 2015 | Photos: Jason Evangelho

GUNSHIP: My favorite album from 2015 | Photos: Jason Evangelho

In the process of writing this article, I had a wonderful chat with Shepherd about why cassettes matter, and how they’re still influencing music from both cultural and business sides of the fence.

I’ll be publishing the entirety of the interview soon, so stick around for that!

Tangibility:

I have always loved tapes, and still made mixtape for friends, but I wanted new music released on tape too,” Shepherd tells me. “I just love the analogue sound and the connection you get to the music from the physicality of the format. I really don’t think that will stop people buying analog because as long as humans have ears and hands, we will want to touch the things we listen to.”

We’re fast evolving into a culture that primarily downloads and consumes entertainment digitally. In 2014 digital music revenue eclipsed physical CD sales for the first time in history. It’s estimated that paid Spotify subscriptions are hovering at 25 million or better, andApple AAPL -0.52% Music is already boasting 10 million paid subscribers.

As the surprise resurgence of vinyl has already shown us, a large percentage of music lovers still long for that physical connection.

Post/Pop has a wildly diverse catalog of cassette releases

Post/Pop has a wildly diverse catalog of cassette releases

Listening to music used to be a deliberate, almost ritualistic experience. Looking at the album art, pulling the record out of its sleeve, or popping the tape in the deck and pressing play. You connected with the album, tethered to your audio equipment, listening to each track successively. And those tracks were good because they were written to be consumed one album at a time, not one track at a time.

Now, music is so frequently relegated to background noise. Disposable. Rewritable. We have one night stands with single tracks. We’re not as selective because space isn’t a concern. But that nostalgia, that tangibility, is only one of the many reasons cassettes are still appealing.

Affordability:

“Making tapes is a fraction of the cost of vinyl, therefore you have the ability to release more frequently and cheaply,” Shepherd explains. “It’s also a really good way for bands to make some fast cash on tour. People want analogue but don’t want to spend £30 on the vinyl, so a very good alternative is a £5 cassette with very similar sound qualities.”

I actually started a new tape collection last year because the medium is so affordable. | Photo: Jason Evangelho

I actually started a new tape collection last year because the medium is so affordable. | Photo: Jason Evangelho

I polled multiple bands and labels about the cost of producing a tape, and the magic median number seems to be about $2 each. Compare this to a vinyl pressing which costs between $4 and $6 per record depending on the quantity being produced. Often it’s even higher. For small and independent bands, breaking even on a vinyl release is a challenge. Profiting on a cassette release is practically guaranteed because the production costs are cheaper, and if they’re selling tapes under $10 it becomes an impulse purchase at a show or online.

Which brings us to another advantage cassettes have over vinyl.

Immediacy:

“The best thing about releasing music on tapes is the turnaround,” Shepherd says. “You can find a band, and release a tape within a week if you want to, whereas vinyl can take up to 6 months (thanks to Record Store Day). It gives you the ability to react to the market and be spontaneous, rather than waiting so long, you lose passion for the project.”

This is a crucial factor for both labels and emerging bands, and of course for impatient music fans. Shepherd could theoretically discover a band at a gig, get them into the studio, and turn a cassette release around on Post/Pop within a few weeks. If the band already has music recorded, that window shrinks even more.

Shepherd has more to offer on the immediacy of tapes: “There has always been a cassette culture among people in bands. Tapes are handy and cheap. Getting down demo ideas, sharing them with bandmates and friends can be a lot easier than using a computer to record. An extension of that is then making the tapes available at your gigs, and then eventually online. It’s very easy to start a tape collection by accident, just by wanting to support local bands. I guess it did go away for the general public though, and that’s the demographic we really need to convince that cassettes are a viable option again.”


I’m not going to try convincing you that cassettes will ever go mainstream again; only that they’re still an important part of the landscape, and a growing part of the conversation.

If you love music and have an affinity for analog, definitely check outPost/Pop Records‘ library of releases. The passion Shepherd has for running a label shines through, and their entire catalog is dripping with talent.

Seriously though, this one song will absolutely sell you on GUNSHIP. What a fantastic band!

[Edited 7/26/16 12:27pm]

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #21 posted 07/26/16 12:36pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

phunkdaddy said:

kpowers said: There is absolutely no new music on 8 track. lol Hell not even on cassette. To my knowledge 1984 or 1985 was probably the last year music came out on 8 track. My grandfather was a Gap Band fan and he had Gap Band 4 on 8 track. lol That album was released in 1982. [Edited 7/26/16 12:13pm]

Wrong! There IS new music on cassette!

Forget Vinyl, Let's Talk About The Cassette Comeback

jed shepherd and HETTIE

top me if you’ve heard this one: Vinyl is making a serious comeback. Ah, you have? Fair enough! Then let’s grab a seat on the beach, juice up the boombox with 8 “D” batteries, pop my new mix into the deck, and chat about the inevitable resurgence of cassette tapes.

In 2014 National Audio Company, one of the largest and busiest cassette manufacturers in the US, produced more than 10 million tapes. In 2015 their duplicated cassette sales increased 31% over 2014. So far in 2016, according to a company spokesperson, they’re well ahead of 2015.

Then you’ve got popular artists such as Eminem reissuing classic albumslike The Slim Shady LP on cassette, or Blink 182 producing cassette reissues of four of their earlier albums.

Artists like Blink 182 and Eminem are reissuing some of their classic albums on cassette | Image: SRCVinyl

Artists like Blink 182 and Eminem are reissuing some of their classic albums on cassette | Image: SRCVinyl

Peering beyond the mainstream, though, we’re seeing a surge of record labels popping up that are devoted almost exclusively to the cassette medium. And they’re thriving. One such label is London-based Post/Pop Records, founded and operated by Jed Shepherd.

I stumbled across Jed in the /CassetteCulture subreddit, where he was promoting a band called GUNSHIP. Their cassette release piqued my interest immediately. Why? Nevermind that its the perfect 80′s synthwave album that happened to be recorded in 2015, or that the band produces incredibly retro-tastic game inspired videos. The B side of the album wasn’t music at all. It was a playable version of a game calledAttack of the Mutant Camels for Commodore 64. Talk about unique!

GUNSHIP: My favorite album from 2015 | Photos: Jason Evangelho

GUNSHIP: My favorite album from 2015 | Photos: Jason Evangelho

In the process of writing this article, I had a wonderful chat with Shepherd about why cassettes matter, and how they’re still influencing music from both cultural and business sides of the fence.

I’ll be publishing the entirety of the interview soon, so stick around for that!

Tangibility:

I have always loved tapes, and still made mixtape for friends, but I wanted new music released on tape too,” Shepherd tells me. “I just love the analogue sound and the connection you get to the music from the physicality of the format. I really don’t think that will stop people buying analog because as long as humans have ears and hands, we will want to touch the things we listen to.”

We’re fast evolving into a culture that primarily downloads and consumes entertainment digitally. In 2014 digital music revenue eclipsed physical CD sales for the first time in history. It’s estimated that paid Spotify subscriptions are hovering at 25 million or better, andApple AAPL -0.52% Music is already boasting 10 million paid subscribers.

As the surprise resurgence of vinyl has already shown us, a large percentage of music lovers still long for that physical connection.

Post/Pop has a wildly diverse catalog of cassette releases

Post/Pop has a wildly diverse catalog of cassette releases

Listening to music used to be a deliberate, almost ritualistic experience. Looking at the album art, pulling the record out of its sleeve, or popping the tape in the deck and pressing play. You connected with the album, tethered to your audio equipment, listening to each track successively. And those tracks were good because they were written to be consumed one album at a time, not one track at a time.

Now, music is so frequently relegated to background noise. Disposable. Rewritable. We have one night stands with single tracks. We’re not as selective because space isn’t a concern. But that nostalgia, that tangibility, is only one of the many reasons cassettes are still appealing.

Affordability:

“Making tapes is a fraction of the cost of vinyl, therefore you have the ability to release more frequently and cheaply,” Shepherd explains. “It’s also a really good way for bands to make some fast cash on tour. People want analogue but don’t want to spend £30 on the vinyl, so a very good alternative is a £5 cassette with very similar sound qualities.”

I actually started a new tape collection last year because the medium is so affordable. | Photo: Jason Evangelho

I actually started a new tape collection last year because the medium is so affordable. | Photo: Jason Evangelho

I polled multiple bands and labels about the cost of producing a tape, and the magic median number seems to be about $2 each. Compare this to a vinyl pressing which costs between $4 and $6 per record depending on the quantity being produced. Often it’s even higher. For small and independent bands, breaking even on a vinyl release is a challenge. Profiting on a cassette release is practically guaranteed because the production costs are cheaper, and if they’re selling tapes under $10 it becomes an impulse purchase at a show or online.

Which brings us to another advantage cassettes have over vinyl.

Immediacy:

“The best thing about releasing music on tapes is the turnaround,” Shepherd says. “You can find a band, and release a tape within a week if you want to, whereas vinyl can take up to 6 months (thanks to Record Store Day). It gives you the ability to react to the market and be spontaneous, rather than waiting so long, you lose passion for the project.”

This is a crucial factor for both labels and emerging bands, and of course for impatient music fans. Shepherd could theoretically discover a band at a gig, get them into the studio, and turn a cassette release around on Post/Pop within a few weeks. If the band already has music recorded, that window shrinks even more.

Shepherd has more to offer on the immediacy of tapes: “There has always been a cassette culture among people in bands. Tapes are handy and cheap. Getting down demo ideas, sharing them with bandmates and friends can be a lot easier than using a computer to record. An extension of that is then making the tapes available at your gigs, and then eventually online. It’s very easy to start a tape collection by accident, just by wanting to support local bands. I guess it did go away for the general public though, and that’s the demographic we really need to convince that cassettes are a viable option again.”


I’m not going to try convincing you that cassettes will ever go mainstream again; only that they’re still an important part of the landscape, and a growing part of the conversation.

If you love music and have an affinity for analog, definitely check outPost/Pop Records‘ library of releases. The passion Shepherd has for running a label shines through, and their entire catalog is dripping with talent.

Seriously though, this one song will absolutely sell you on GUNSHIP. What a fantastic band!

[Edited 7/26/16 12:27pm]

No, don't gloss over the issue of there is still 8-Track out there no no no!

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Reply #22 posted 07/26/16 1:14pm

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phunkdaddy said:

Chancellor said:

They said the same thing about 8-track players and you can still buy them today...VCR's ain't going anywhere...

eek Must be online. lol You sure you're not referring to cassette players?

Chancellor right, VCR aren't going anywhere... eBay has a ton of them. lol You can still buy VCR tapes at the Dollar Store.

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Reply #23 posted 07/26/16 1:22pm

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TD3 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Chancellor said: eek Must be online. lol You sure you're not referring to cassette players?

Chancellor right, VCR aren't going anywhere... eBay has a ton of them. lol You can still by VCR tapes at the Dollar Store.

Well you can buy anything old on-line (EBAY). But yes VHS players are being phased out. Not sure about a DVD/VHS combo which I have.

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Reply #24 posted 07/28/16 5:38pm

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can get them for 3 bucks at any secondhand store. I still have dozens and dozens of old tapes with prince stuff, boxing, other music stuff on them. I coulda done without dvd's people are so stupid, they can't even figure out that they are constantly milked for every last penny. now they got blue rays and shit. totally unneccesary if you ask me. Yes, i know quality, yada yada, i don't care.

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Reply #25 posted 08/02/16 4:08pm

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728huey said:

Some sad news of sorts coming out of the news wires. While the media has been focused on the political conventions, various shootings around the USA and the world, some important news has surfaced from Japan that the last manufacturing of videocassette recorders is scheduled to conclude at the end of the month. After that, the last remaining manufacturer of VCR's, Funai Electric, will cease production.

https://www.washingtonpos.../#comments







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The 3rd picture is of a laserdisc player, not a vcr.
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Reply #26 posted 08/02/16 8:08pm

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They will probably make a comeback like the vinyl has. Hipsters will eat it up for a few years and then on to the next phase.

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Reply #27 posted 08/05/16 2:01pm

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VHS was the worst format when it came to media... renting movies from a videoclub and play dirty tapes in a nice clean machine... my point is lazy fuckers never cleaned their VHS machines.

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Reply #28 posted 08/05/16 2:55pm

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3rdeyedude said:

They will probably make a comeback like the vinyl has. Hipsters will eat it up for a few years and then on to the next phase.

But vinyl can actually sound great. VHS never looked or sounded very good.

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Reply #29 posted 08/05/16 3:06pm

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VHS had a shitty sound when it came to the stantard machines (Mono)... NICAM made the difference which was improved with the sound (all depends on the tape) but was crappy when it came to the tracking... I am glad DVD took over because it all about the picture quality in front of the TV... VHS will never match Vinyl and Cassette because it was never near it with poor quality playback.

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