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Reply #60 posted 05/29/16 7:30am

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What I find shocking is how everybody defends Johnny Depp and blames the victim.


Why is domestic abuse excusable when it is executed by Johnny Depp?


He can abuse his wife because he is pretty?


The general response in the media of victim blaming really surprises me. And shows how the reality is for women. If you get abused as a woman and finally have the courage to stand up against your abuser, you get blamed and shamed and targeted.


This really baffles me.


Thank you...

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Reply #61 posted 05/29/16 7:39pm

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Here is the latest. At the moment his daughter and Vanessa are defending Johnny http://linkis.com/www.dai...o.uk/3BDmb I feel for them too rose this hurts everyone sad

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Reply #62 posted 05/29/16 7:49pm

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Here is the latest. At the moment his daughter and Vanessa are defending Johnny http://linkis.com/www.dai...o.uk/3BDmb I feel for them too rose this hurts everyone sad




How dare they defend him and not support the victim.
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Reply #63 posted 05/29/16 8:16pm

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If I was Amber's mother I would have advised her to not get involved with a man who is more than 5 yrs older than her. She would have more in common with a 30-35 year old. Maybe she was looking for a father figure?

A man in his 50's gets involved with a 30 year old because of her looks not her personality or intellect!
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Reply #64 posted 05/29/16 8:31pm

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Dalia11 said:

If I was Amber's mother I would have advised her to not get involved with a man who is more than 5 yrs older than her. She would have more in common with a 30-35 year old. Maybe she was looking for a father figure? A man in his 50's gets involved with a 30 year old because of her looks not her personality or intellect!




Based on this website I'm not saying anything.

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Reply #65 posted 05/29/16 8:31pm

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Now u got people claiming to be "friends" of the couple with the inside scoop with headlines like

"Johnny Depp Is Being Blackmailed by Amber Heard – Here’s How I Know (Guest Column)"

oh lordy shrug http://www.thewrap.com/jo...st-column/

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Reply #66 posted 05/30/16 7:35am

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dJJ said:

missfee said:

dJJ said: Again, how do you know that she's in fact a victim? An accusation doesn't automatically mean that a person is a victim. There's been many cases of fabricated abuse. It's unfortunate as it makes those who have been in truly abusive situations lives more difficult, but fabricated abuse stories do exist and people have done this. I think the correlation between Mr. Depp's situation and Mr. Cosby's is an unfair comparison and two completely different situations entirely. Although he seems guilty enough, it has to be pointed out that Mr. Cosby has not been convicted of anything...yet. Johnny Depp isn't accused of drugging other women and sexually taking advantage of them, he is only being accused of domestic abuse.




Not true accusations happen rarely. It gets a lot of attention in the news, that is why people think it is common. Surely, there needs to be more clarity, but I don't think she hit herself in order to make that photo.

so, changes that she made it up, are less likely that she is telling the truth. She has proof in the picture.

Depp has a history of physical outbursts.

So, why do so many here jump to the conclusion she is the fraudulent person in this case?

I'm responding to the general opinion of blaming her. So, that you are acusing me of an preliminary opinion is not a very good argument.

Depp has a historry of physical outburts but not towards women. You are the one jumping to conclusions

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Reply #67 posted 05/30/16 8:32am

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morningsong said:

Dalia11 said:

If I was Amber's mother I would have advised her to not get involved with a man who is more than 5 yrs older than her. She would have more in common with a 30-35 year old. Maybe she was looking for a father figure? A man in his 50's gets involved with a 30 year old because of her looks not her personality or intellect!




Based on this website I'm not saying anything.




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Reply #68 posted 05/30/16 8:40am

Dalia11

There is a pic of Miss Amber laughing. The article states the pic was taken after she saw her divorce lawyer. Some legal experts are speculating that she may get 20 Million.
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Reply #69 posted 05/30/16 9:39am

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I'm not a big fan of Johnny's, but I certainly don't dislike the guy, but I think he's a idiot for marrying her in the first place. I'm sure it was mostly ego driven. Having said that, I don't blame her for laughing. I'd be laughing too if I was expecting millions from a 15 month marriage. It will be interesting when the truth comes out.

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Reply #70 posted 05/30/16 11:07am

morningsong

Dalia11 said:

There is a pic of Miss Amber laughing. The article states the pic was taken after she saw her divorce lawyer. Some legal experts are speculating that she may get 20 Million.



Poor little frail put upon Amber.
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Reply #71 posted 05/30/16 12:38pm

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Reply #72 posted 05/30/16 2:15pm

Dalia11

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I'm not a big fan of Johnny's, but I certainly don't dislike the guy, but I think he's a idiot for marrying her in the first place. I'm sure it was mostly ego driven. Having said that, I don't blame her for laughing. I'd be laughing too if I was expecting millions from a 15 month marriage. It will be interesting when the truth comes out.

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True! He can't be that bad of a guy. He wanted to get married. He could have stayed single, which alot of men opt to do.
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Reply #73 posted 05/30/16 3:48pm

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According to an article online, their spat started because John's Children did not want Amber(their stepmother) at his Dying Mother's
bedside.
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Reply #74 posted 05/30/16 8:22pm

morningsong

Looks like battle lines are being drawn. It's not going to be nothing nice.
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Reply #75 posted 05/30/16 10:30pm

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morningsong said:

Looks like battle lines are being drawn. It's not going to be nothing nice.

Yep, according to People Amber Heard Slams Comedian Accusing Her of Blackmailing Johnny Depp

http://www.people.com/article/amber-heard-johnny-depp-blackmail-allegations?xid=socialflow_twitter_peoplemag

I wonder if she is gonna comment of the support Johnny has received from Vanessa and Lily Rose?

Even Terry Gilliam has joined in (I didn't know he was on twitter)

19h19 hours ago

Like many of Johnny Depp's friends I'm discovering that Amber is a better actress than I thought.. if only the...

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Reply #76 posted 05/30/16 10:41pm

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Stars Support Amber Heard After Johnny Depp Domestic Abuse Allegations Cause Media Backlash

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3942377

Some of these people I have never heard of. I don't know if it has something to do being a holiday in the US, but it's rather interesting how their hasn't been a large response from major celebs over this story compared to Keisha.....are they playing the wait and see game?

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Reply #77 posted 05/31/16 4:39am

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i just never trusted her. she put her little doggies at risk in australia. wherever she goes she ALWAYS looks like she is posing for the camera. IMO that kind of perpetual self-awareness, that kind of calculated'poise' imo seems to be the hallmark of a manipulator. because i worked in legal, i know that women can and do make false assault allegations in the context of a divorce. despite my inclination to rail against domestic abuse, in THIS case, i do not believe heard's allegations. vanessa paradis and depp's children know him best. his friend knows him best http://www.thewrap.com/jo...st-column/

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Reply #78 posted 05/31/16 10:48am

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I agree with XxAxX --- I think abusive men are HORRIBLE and my sister dated one that was a monster, but, this Amber Heard, and the picture of her laughing as she came out of her lawyers office, no no no, I mean, even if she is getting tons of money, if you were abused and had been through that sort of ordeal, you would not be laughing. Plus, if she really cared for him she would care that his mother has just passed. She seems like a manipulating woman and those kind of women are dangerous and evil.
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Reply #79 posted 05/31/16 5:43pm

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I think this interesting E! online article is trying to explain both sides of the story so far http://www.eonline.com/ne...it-matters

Also there is an article about her finances, which really surprised me (especially how much she got from Magic Mike 2) being that she is a high profile actress who gets alot of mag covers, and who will be in the next Justice League film. http://radaronline.com/ce...es-income/ and this one from People http://www.people.com/art...d-revealed

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Reply #80 posted 05/31/16 7:08pm

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Looks like a triple whammy for Johnny Depp:

Have audiences gone off Johnny Depp? Alice Through The Looking Glass bombs at box office

Alice Through The Looking GlassAlice Through The Looking Glass

Johnny Depp’s latest film, the Disney sequel Alice Through The Looking Glass, has had a disappointing opening weekend at the US box office.

According to figures released today (via Sky News), the film, which opened in cinemas on Friday, made a total of $28.1 million across the weekend in the US.

Ahead of the release, projected takings for the $170 million sequel, a follow-up to Tim Burton’s 2010 Alice in Wonderland, had been significantly higher: the film was expected to make at least $60 million.

Johnny Depp at the Alice Through the Looking Glass premiere on May 23Johnny Depp at the Alice Through the Looking Glass premiere on May 23
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Fifty-two-year-old Depp is currently being divorced by his wife of just over a year, Amber Heard, who last week made allegations that the Pirates of the Caribbean star had been physically and verbally abusive towards her throughout their marriage. On Friday, Heard was granted a restraining order against her husband.

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Depp has not commented on the claims, but it has been suggested that the negative attention may have helped turn audiences away from the fantasy sequel, which was being billed as a family-friendly adventure, and in which he stars as the Mad Hatter.

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"These allegations, if true, pose a serious threat to the box-office longevity of Johnny Depp," box office analyst Jeff Bock told The Hollywood Reporter yesterday. "Obviously time heals all wounds, but this is certainly having a toll on Depp and Alice. Alice in Blunderland is more like it."

Fans and supporters of Amber Heard have also called for a boycott of the movie.

I’m in full support of people printing up #ImWithAmber stickers and putting them on Alice in Wonderland posters at theaters

Amber Heard leaves the Superior Court of Los Angeles on May 27, with what appears to be a bruise on her right cheek after obtaining a restraining order against husband Johnny DeppAmber Heard leaves the Superior Court of Los Angeles on May 27, with what appears to be a bruise on her right cheek after obtaining a restraining order against husband Johnny Depp
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That said, it’s also worth noting that the Lewis Carrol-inspired movie, directed by James Bobin and starring Mia Wasikowska as a grown-up Alice, has received a predominantly negative reaction from critics. On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, for instance, it has a rating of just 30%.

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Burton’s 2010 film, which made $116 million on its opening weekend, has a rating of 52%.

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Reply #81 posted 05/31/16 7:15pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

Looks like a triple whammy for Johnny Depp:

Have audiences gone off Johnny Depp? Alice Through The Looking Glass bombs at box office

Alice Through The Looking GlassAlice Through The Looking Glass

Johnny Depp’s latest film, the Disney sequel Alice Through The Looking Glass, has had a disappointing opening weekend at the US box office.

According to figures released today (via Sky News), the film, which opened in cinemas on Friday, made a total of $28.1 million across the weekend in the US.

Ahead of the release, projected takings for the $170 million sequel, a follow-up to Tim Burton’s 2010 Alice in Wonderland, had been significantly higher: the film was expected to make at least $60 million.

Johnny Depp at the Alice Through the Looking Glass premiere on May 23Johnny Depp at the Alice Through the Looking Glass premiere on May 23
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Fifty-two-year-old Depp is currently being divorced by his wife of just over a year, Amber Heard, who last week made allegations that the Pirates of the Caribbean star had been physically and verbally abusive towards her throughout their marriage. On Friday, Heard was granted a restraining order against her husband.

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Depp has not commented on the claims, but it has been suggested that the negative attention may have helped turn audiences away from the fantasy sequel, which was being billed as a family-friendly adventure, and in which he stars as the Mad Hatter.

.

"These allegations, if true, pose a serious threat to the box-office longevity of Johnny Depp," box office analyst Jeff Bock told The Hollywood Reporter yesterday. "Obviously time heals all wounds, but this is certainly having a toll on Depp and Alice. Alice in Blunderland is more like it."

Fans and supporters of Amber Heard have also called for a boycott of the movie.

I’m in full support of people printing up #ImWithAmber stickers and putting them on Alice in Wonderland posters at theaters

Amber Heard leaves the Superior Court of Los Angeles on May 27, with what appears to be a bruise on her right cheek after obtaining a restraining order against husband Johnny DeppAmber Heard leaves the Superior Court of Los Angeles on May 27, with what appears to be a bruise on her right cheek after obtaining a restraining order against husband Johnny Depp
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That said, it’s also worth noting that the Lewis Carrol-inspired movie, directed by James Bobin and starring Mia Wasikowska as a grown-up Alice, has received a predominantly negative reaction from critics. On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, for instance, it has a rating of just 30%.

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Burton’s 2010 film, which made $116 million on its opening weekend, has a rating of 52%.

Thanks, I watched the film on Friday, it wasn't bad I prefer the first one (that had the added 3D which also helped at the box office) and I also think another reason it didin't do well is because I think people are getting tired of the fairy tale reboots. I saw the trailer for Beauty and the Beast and I'm like why did it need to be remade when the animated one was so perfect?

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Reply #82 posted 05/31/16 11:30pm

morningsong

Nah, this issue isn't what's wrong with the movie.

Anyhow, Johnny's going to pay for this one. That's for sure.

Hope the movie he's working on now isn't suffering.
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Reply #83 posted 06/01/16 3:41am

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well, IMO, yet another remake of alice in wonderland is not going to help ANYone's career....

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Reply #84 posted 06/01/16 3:56am

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I wonder how many of the people commenting (general public, not just here) on the appropriate behavior of domestic abuse victims to validate their claims of abuse have ever been abused by a domestic partner. And of those who have, I wonder why they might assume there is one single appropriate way to respond to it.

I am Johnny Depp indifferent, maybe seen one of his movies ever, and I had never heard of Amber Heard before now. I have no idea what happened, but nothing that has been presented here is out of the realm of normal behavior for victims of violence.
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Reply #85 posted 06/01/16 3:57am

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apparently, at the time heard called in the alleged assault, responding officers found "no trace" of any injury on her face.

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i really do not know which of them to believe. ms. heard keeps prducing fairly convincing evidence that depp has done some things....

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Reply #86 posted 06/01/16 4:03am

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Discussing evidence or even character is different from, "a person who experiences abuse would do _____ and never _____."
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Reply #87 posted 06/01/16 4:27am

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Horsefeathers said:

I wonder how many of the people commenting (general public, not just here) on the appropriate behavior of domestic abuse victims to validate their claims of abuse have ever been abused by a domestic partner. And of those who have, I wonder why they might assume there is one single appropriate way to respond to it. I am Johnny Depp indifferent, maybe seen one of his movies ever, and I had never heard of Amber Heard before now. I have no idea what happened, but nothing that has been presented here is out of the realm of normal behavior for victims of violence.

speaking for myself and also projecting on domestic abuse statistics: i think it would be a mistake to assume that those of us posting have zero experience with this issue. i think it is safe to assume that at least some of us have been there, one way or another

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Reply #88 posted 06/01/16 4:36am

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I didn't assume anything one way or the other hence "I wonder." I still wholly reject one size fits all application of standards of behavior for victims.
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Reply #89 posted 06/01/16 4:38am

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I didn't assume anything one way or the other hence "I wonder." I still wholly reject one size fits all application of standards of behavior for victims.

oh, okay. yeah. i wouldn't say one size fits anything when it comes to cases like this one

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