Alej said:

214 said:

De dónde eres, México, España, Argentina?

Mexico

Qué bien, un fan mexicano de Prince, yo también soy mexicano.

214 said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

Adorecream said:

Our language is full of a lot of transliterations as it was stone age, and only synthesised in the 1820s. Maori did not have Princes or Kings, merely high chiefs (Ariki), lesser chiefs (Rangatira), Commoners (Tangata) Slaves (Taurekareka) or Priests (Tohunga). Other transliterations include

Kamaputu = Gumboots, Kemihi = Chemist, Kingi = Kingi, Kuini Wikitoria = Queen Victoria. However like many Stone age languages, everyday words and words about nature, things and grammar were not made up.

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Another one = Mikaere Hakona (You should get that one )

I'm trying to imagine a banner advertising a concert of "Hakona 5" in New Zealand

It's okay, Maori is only spoken by 26% of Maori and virtually all Maori speak English as their main language with the xception of bush kuias (Old ladies who live in the deep forests of the Ureweras and the East Coast region). Many young children have kura kaupapa (Maori immersion learning, but realise Moari is fairly useless outside New Zealand, the fact most Europeans, Americans and Asian have never heard of it speaks volumes.

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It is one of the 3 official languages of NZ - English (British English with British spellings), Maori and Sign Language (No I can not do it). We have a 4th language called Kiwi Vernacular English which is our local accent that sounds fairly similar to Australian English but with many Maori borrow nouns like Kiwi, Kaka, Marae, Hangi etc and local expressions like chur (Yeah), Sweet (Good), bro (Brother) and Munted (Broken/ruined), wop wops (Back country).

NorthC said:

No, I do NOT think that the fact that the majority of Europeans, Americans and Asians have not heared of the Maori language speaks volumes. (Except about their ignorance maybe.) How many have heared about Siksika, Lakota, Quechua, Guarani, Nahuatl... Yeah, all native American languages, North and South. And they were all oppressed by the colonizers. Colonized Mind, anyone? If you try to suppress a people's language, you suppress their soul.

Quechua is one of Bolivia's official languages IIRC.

Please get back to the original issue of this thread. Do not spoil my party.

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NorthC said:

I can say I love you in Kikuyu and Swahili if that counts. Well, anyone who's heared Michael Jacksons Liberian Girl will recognize "naku penda", which is kinda strange because they don't speak Swahili in Liberia at all.

I love that song, the music is great but not the lyrics, not that much, though.

NorthC said:

No, I do NOT think that the fact that the majority of Europeans, Americans and Asians have not heared of the Maori language speaks volumes. (Except about their ignorance maybe.) How many have heared about Siksika, Lakota, Quechua, Guarani, Nahuatl... Yeah, all native American languages, North and South. And they were all oppressed by the colonizers. Colonized Mind, anyone? If you try to suppress a people's language, you suppress their soul.

A group of young Maori activists known as "Nga Tamatoa" - the young warriors, revived it in the 1970s. Maori was learned and lexiographed in the 1820s, but by the 1870s it was believed the Maori was dying out and the language would also disappear. Also as many whites had hostile feelings given the 1860s Moari wars were not a victory for the whites, but a stalemate. The Maori land and Kingite movement was only suppressed around 1885 and large tracts of the North Island were out of bounds for whites until the early 1900s.

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Population declined until 1906 when it began to rise, however interbreeding between races was encouraged and the assimilation of Maori into the white working class carried on. Maori was suppressed in education until the 1970s, as late as the 1960s childen were caned at school for speaking Maori, yet most rural Maori spoke it at home, with English becoming the main language of Maori only when the movement of the cities began in the 1940s.

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In 1975 Maori was made an official language and promotion of it began by the Government. In 1982 the first Kohanga Reo (Language nests began) and by 1990 Maori was commonplace. But yes it was the soul of the people that kept the language alive. But today the surviving Maori are all mixed race and no pure Maori remain alive, plus the language is a mish mash of tribal dialects standardised in the 1950s with many English borrow words.

NorthC said:

That's very interesting, AdoreCream... I don't know much about New Zealand's history, but... Maybe you can help me with something... Do you know if there were a lot of films made about the Maori Wars? I remember seeing a film on the BBC years ago, somewhere in the 90s that was a bit like a Western, but in New Zealand. I remember a lot of blue uniforms and a lot of bloodshed, but I can't for the life of me remember the title of the film or the name of any actor who played in it. I admit my description of this flick is pretty vague, so if you don't have a clue what I'm talking about, that's fine, but who knows, maybe you do know some period/war films about your country that were made in the 80s/90s. (Sorry, 214, for hijacking your thread. ) [Edited 5/30/16 15:51pm]

Hi NorthC

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I think the movie you may be referring to is UTU (Maori for revenge/cost) and it was made in 1983. It is based on the New Zealand wars of the 1860s.

Otherwise it may be the 2006 movie River Queen also set in the 1860s.

EmmaMcG said:

KoolEaze said:

Isn´t it actually called Gaelic ? Is Irish the official name of that language?

Gaeilge is the Irish word for Irish but since the rest of my post was in English, I thought it would make more sense if I just said Irish. For what it's worth though, it's very rare that you'll actually hear an Irish person say "Gaeilge", and I've never heard an Irish person say "Gaelic" in a serious conversation when referring to the Irish language. We just say "Irish".

"Irish" is what you speak, "Gaelic" is what I speak.

i use to know these girls, when i was a kid,

and they had one like piglatin (i belaieve)

but instead of the (for instance) simple 'ay'

sound that would end the word theirs were

'itta' 'otta' 'utta' and like that and i believe

it ended with a 'ka'....

and body else familiar with this???

(come on black girls)

Hola, mi hermano Mexicano.

Bonne journee.

2freaky4church1 said:

Hola, mi hermano Mexicano.

Hola, hablas español?

Un poco de Espanol. Nyemnogo ruskovo yazika. Very rusty on both.

Adorecream said:

NorthC said:

That's very interesting, AdoreCream... I don't know much about New Zealand's history, but... Maybe you can help me with something... Do you know if there were a lot of films made about the Maori Wars? I remember seeing a film on the BBC years ago, somewhere in the 90s that was a bit like a Western, but in New Zealand. I remember a lot of blue uniforms and a lot of bloodshed, but I can't for the life of me remember the title of the film or the name of any actor who played in it. I admit my description of this flick is pretty vague, so if you don't have a clue what I'm talking about, that's fine, but who knows, maybe you do know some period/war films about your country that were made in the 80s/90s. (Sorry, 214, for hijacking your thread. ) [Edited 5/30/16 15:51pm]

Hi NorthC

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I think the movie you may be referring to is UTU (Maori for revenge/cost) and it was made in 1983. It is based on the New Zealand wars of the 1860s.

Otherwise it may be the 2006 movie River Queen also set in the 1860s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utu_(film)

NorthC said:

No, I do NOT think that the fact that the majority of Europeans, Americans and Asians have not heared of the Maori language speaks volumes. (Except about their ignorance maybe.) How many have heared about Siksika, Lakota, Quechua, Guarani, Nahuatl... Yeah, all native American languages, North and South. And they were all oppressed by the colonizers. Colonized Mind, anyone? If you try to suppress a people's language, you suppress their soul.

Man, I would LOVE to learn Guarani. If I'm very lucky with my academic career, I might end up in Paraguay at some point in the next few years, and hopefully I'll be able to get some lessons.

I completely agree with you about the suppresion of languages too. I live in Spain, and you wouldn't believe some of the stupid opinions a lot of people have with regards to the country's regional languages (Basque, Catalan, Galician) and their respective dialects.

OT: English is my native language. Apart from that, I'm fluent in Spanish, Portuguese and Galician. I can also hold a conversation in Polish and French, though I'm far from fluent in either of them.

I wonder if anyone speaks Esperanto, this invented language was a fad in the early 20th century and a few countries like USSR even issued stamps in Esperanto in 1927 and I have several postcards from a circle of people exchanging them in the 1920s.

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Esperanto was made up of several European languages (Of course back then, they thought European languages were the only relevant ones forget any African, Pacific, Asian, Aboriginal or Native american ones - pie eyed racism of 100 years ago) and was to be a big global linguistic gumbo so all of the people of the world could understand each other.

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It never went past a few thousand intellectuals and proved that proper languages have evolved over thousands of years and can not be invented in the space of a few years. In fact language is still a fluid concept evoloving all the time (Or in the case of English devolving in my opinion - selfies, textspeak, Princebonics etc). I did a few linguistics papers at University as part of my Cultural Anthropology studies.

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I speak English.
I also speak Long Island English ("lawn guyland Ing-lish")

I am fluent in Spanish (Este thread me gusta mucho)
I can conversate in Honduran Spanish (¡No jodás voz, está pijúdo éste thread!)

And I can say "Hello" in Garifuna (idabiña!)

Si.

PurpleJedi said:

I speak English.
I also speak Long Island English ("lawn guyland Ing-lish")

I am fluent in Spanish (Este thread me gusta mucho)
I can conversate in Honduran Spanish (¡No jodás voz, está pijúdo éste thread!)

And I can say "Hello" in Garifuna (idabiña!)

Pero, cuál es tu lengua madre?

214 said:

PurpleJedi said:

I speak English.
I also speak Long Island English ("lawn guyland Ing-lish")

I am fluent in Spanish (Este thread me gusta mucho)
I can conversate in Honduran Spanish (¡No jodás voz, está pijúdo éste thread!)

And I can say "Hello" in Garifuna (idabiña!)

Pero, cuál es tu lengua madre?

Pues, el español, ya que mi madre me crió hablando en su lengua natal. Y por supuesto, con todos los modismos de los hondureños.