As i mentioned here before. I'm working at Vitamin Shoppe in addition to my work at Sony. And i can't believe how petty people are over the littlest fucking thing's.

That is a thing right now in Cali. And the health store i work at charges 10 cents for a bag. And people go absolutely ape shit about it. I got called a faggot ass hoe bitch for asking if a customer wanted a 10 cent bag. And another one threatened to sue the entire company because ''y'all done lied about the bags and don't care about customers.

Today this fool came in and bought $200 dollars worth of shit. Then said ''oh you must hate me as a customer. Perhaps I'll take my money somewhere else then since you want me to pay for a bag. When i want to give you my money and you want me to spend money'' this motherfucker spent 5 minutes crying like a little bitch over a ten cent bag. Held up the fucking like and everything! not to mention i gave him a free bag so we could speed this along here. And the tucan sam looking chump chang motherfucker kept ranting -.-

I also had an old lady call me an asshat for asking. Basically everyday i get yelled at for the ten cent bag thing. And i don't see why people are so damn upset. Yeah... it sucks you get charged for bags. But they act like i, Gunsnhalen. Went and proposed this law to be passed. And that i got out of bed to personally ruin and cum all over their day. I pray to all GODS they find some inner peace.

Wow - it's really too bad we live in a world today when companies have to charge extra for a bag... but even worse when the public harasses the employees about the policy. You even go so far as to ASK people if they want the 10-cent bag. There are many stores going this way, so people by now shouldn't get all bent out of shape about it!


I would hope that your workplace has the bag fee posted on the door as people come in. If they don't, maybe you could suggest it. That way customers can get a friendly reminder as they walk through the doors that they will have to either BRING IN THEIR OWN DAMN BAGS from their SUV they haul their children in (those ones people buy, thinking they will be all earth-friendly, only to completely forget about them whenever they go places) or BE CHARGED 10 CENTS for a bag that says Vitamin Shoppe on it. Let's face it, people are all into labels. You would think they would go gaga over the circular blue, gold, and white Vitamin Shoppe logo on their plastic bag... that they can use again and again at their own discretion. Hell, they can even be encourage to "collect them all!" Seriously, put up some signs: on the door, going out the door ("thank you for buying a 10-cent VS bag" or "Thank you for bringing your own bag in to help save the environment!"), and certainly one at the cash register. Have it printed right on the receipt they never look at, unless they are questioning whether or not they overpaid for something (and checking that YOU rang-up their items correctly - those bitches!).




When people give you crap, you can also say the bag policy was not your invention (mention that "they don't pay you enough for your creative ideas") and remind them that there is no need to use HOMOPHOBIC language to blame you for their cheapness. After all, you work there as an employee with equal human rights that should protect you against "hurtful speech," "bullying," and "name-calling." After all, you don't find fault with those CHEAP-ASS MOTHERFUCKERS and outrightly call them such to their faces. You might remind them that you'd be happy to call the police if they continue to harass you while you are simply trying to do your job.


If they refuse to pay the 10-cents, great - they don't get a bag and will hopefully develop some muscles on those puny sticks they call arms, carrying out their goods. Be sure to remind them that without charging a small fee, prices would likely have to go up to offset the costs being passed onto the consumer (then stand back and watch people unload!), and that your company is trying to adopt an earth-friendly policy to help cut-down on all the bags in the world that don't decompose, choke wild animals that somehow stumble on discarded bags they have found in the wilderness ("And you wouldn't want a bear to choke on a bag, now would you sir?"), and that your employer wants to help eliminate excess bags - like those gray or blue ones from Wal-Mart you always see stuck in a tree or blowing down the street like a tumbleweed - that other people who don't care about the earth use, only to pollute the planet with their refuse. Be sure to remind them that there won't be a planet for their children or children's children if Mother Earth is suffocated in plastic from discarded bags people insist on using BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO IGNORANT OR CHEAP to care.


Good luck, and don't let those bastards ruin your day. Kill 'em with kindness, if you can't use your bare hands.

FormerlyKnownAs said:

I would hope that your workplace has the bag fee posted on the door as people come in. If they don't, maybe you could suggest it. That way customers can get a friendly reminder as they walk through the doors that they will have to either BRING IN THEIR OWN DAMN BAGS from their SUV they haul their children in (those ones people buy, thinking they will be all earth-friendly, only to completely forget about them whenever they go places) or BE CHARGED 10 CENTS for a bag that says Vitamin Shoppe on it.

You got that right. Problem solved. Me personally, that's what i do. I got so many bags from Wal-mart, Target, the local Carnicería/Taco Shop/Supermarket, etc, that i could probably go a few months without purchasing new ones. I will admit though. I was pissed off when that bag law went into effect. Then i realized that sometimes a person has to do things that they don't want to do(like pay 10 cents for a bag). I realized that in haggling over a 10 cent bag, i looked like a idiot.

Anyway, i feel for you Guns. I'd probably slap the wig off of one of them belligerent dummies.

i´m used for paying for bags, can´t believe people would make a fuss about it.

If you don´t want to pay, bring your own damn bag!

It's just a result of our "angry" phase.

Don't take it personal, and it's not the bags themselves.

Americans right now are just ANGRY. We have no real threats to our security, no real threats of pestilence, famine or (real) war. So we've PASSED the stage of complacency, and people in general are walking around spewing their inner angst to others in the form of anger.

Not to mention that we've also become a society of Entitlement. People feel as if they are ENTITLED to walk through life without so much as a blemish on their plastic lives.

Turn on the television. What do you see? Reality shows about fucked-up lives. Crime shows with all sorts of murder, lunacy, serial killers, and conspiracies. Even fairy tales are now DARK and BROODING (Grimm, Supernatural, Once, etc.). We're living in very heavy, dark, brooding times.

So when that guy went off on you for having to pay the equivalent of a half-sip of a cup of coffee to buy an environmentally-damaging plastic bag, he's really just venting all of that pent-up frustration and anger that's swelling up within.

I realize that it's not fair, and I commend you for not grabbing him by the throat and throwing him out the door...but think of it THIS way; you probably saved some other poor sould from being shot in a fit of road rage.

PurpleJedi said:

It's just a result of our "angry" phase.

Don't take it personal, and it's not the bags themselves.

Americans right now are just ANGRY. We have no real threats to our security, no real threats of pestilence, famine or (real) war. So we've PASSED the stage of complacency, and people in general are walking around spewing their inner angst to others in the form of anger.

Not to mention that we've also become a society of Entitlement. People feel as if they are ENTITLED to walk through life without so much as a blemish on their plastic lives.

Turn on the television. What do you see? Reality shows about fucked-up lives. Crime shows with all sorts of murder, lunacy, serial killers, and conspiracies. Even fairy tales are now DARK and BROODING (Grimm, Supernatural, Once, etc.). We're living in very heavy, dark, brooding times.

So when that guy went off on you for having to pay the equivalent of a half-sip of a cup of coffee to buy an environmentally-damaging plastic bag, he's really just venting all of that pent-up frustration and anger that's swelling up within.

I realize that it's not fair, and I commend you for not grabbing him by the throat and throwing him out the door...but think of it THIS way; you probably saved some other poor sould from being shot in a fit of road rage.

i totally agree! and i think americans have a LOT of reasons to be angry. the industrial age should have ushered in a better lifestyle for everyone, and yet, it has benefited mostly the upper classes in terms of more and more profits.

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meanwhile, our jobs are disappearing right and left, never to return. receptionist positions are replaced by automated 'press one now' lines; manufacturing/factory sector jobs have moved overseas, artifical intelligence and robotics look to be taking jobs that used to go to those who could not afford school, the so-called 'unskilled labor' market.

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even the 'skilled' labor market is set to disappear; for example, software that can transcribe spoken words and electronic filing capability with major court systems will someday replace legal secretaries, for example.

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people are afraid, desperate and yes, angry. as they should be. corporate interests have ruined small farmers, only factory farms remain, at the cost of the environment.

i hate to say it but i think america has truly become the evil empire...

XxAxX said:

PurpleJedi said:

It's just a result of our "angry" phase.

Don't take it personal, and it's not the bags themselves.

Americans right now are just ANGRY. We have no real threats to our security, no real threats of pestilence, famine or (real) war. So we've PASSED the stage of complacency, and people in general are walking around spewing their inner angst to others in the form of anger.

Not to mention that we've also become a society of Entitlement. People feel as if they are ENTITLED to walk through life without so much as a blemish on their plastic lives.

Turn on the television. What do you see? Reality shows about fucked-up lives. Crime shows with all sorts of murder, lunacy, serial killers, and conspiracies. Even fairy tales are now DARK and BROODING (Grimm, Supernatural, Once, etc.). We're living in very heavy, dark, brooding times.

So when that guy went off on you for having to pay the equivalent of a half-sip of a cup of coffee to buy an environmentally-damaging plastic bag, he's really just venting all of that pent-up frustration and anger that's swelling up within.

I realize that it's not fair, and I commend you for not grabbing him by the throat and throwing him out the door...but think of it THIS way; you probably saved some other poor sould from being shot in a fit of road rage.

i totally agree! and i think americans have a LOT of reasons to be angry. the industrial age should have ushered in a better lifestyle for everyone, and yet, it has benefited mostly the upper classes in terms of more and more profits.

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meanwhile, our jobs are disappearing right and left, never to return. receptionist positions are replaced by automated 'press one now' lines; manufacturing/factory sector jobs have moved overseas, artifical intelligence and robotics look to be taking jobs that used to go to those who could not afford school, the so-called 'unskilled labor' market.

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even the 'skilled' labor market is set to disappear; for example, software that can transcribe spoken words and electronic filing capability with major court systems will someday replace legal secretaries, for example.

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people are afraid, desperate and yes, angry. as they should be. corporate interests have ruined small farmers, only factory farms remain, at the cost of the environment.

i hate to say it but i think america has truly become the evil empire...

I hadn't even considered that, but YES. I agree.

The Middle Class here is fading faster than the appeal of a new Prince release.

I don't think automation is evil. We will just have to rethink our economies since jobs will be (and are already) vastly different than they are today. People will work less hours, share jobs that one person previously had, that kind of thing. It's not all doom and gloom. We just have to be on top of it and willing to make the changes necessary to take care of everyone.

As for the initial post, yeah, that sucks, but that's retail for you.

morningsong said:

Sorry you have to deal with crappy people with some screwed up attitudes. The bag issue has been going on long enough for people not to act so shocked and just send a email to the company if they disagree with it instead of insulting employees. How cowardly and lazy in the age of smartphones.

I don't like to shop a whole lot so this is my first time hearing of this.

It's poor taste to take it out on the employee.

Although, I must confess that I gave ATT customer service a piece of my mind the other day....

No yelling or profanity though.

PurpleJedi said:

XxAxX said:

i totally agree! and i think americans have a LOT of reasons to be angry. the industrial age should have ushered in a better lifestyle for everyone, and yet, it has benefited mostly the upper classes in terms of more and more profits.

.

meanwhile, our jobs are disappearing right and left, never to return. receptionist positions are replaced by automated 'press one now' lines; manufacturing/factory sector jobs have moved overseas, artifical intelligence and robotics look to be taking jobs that used to go to those who could not afford school, the so-called 'unskilled labor' market.

.

even the 'skilled' labor market is set to disappear; for example, software that can transcribe spoken words and electronic filing capability with major court systems will someday replace legal secretaries, for example.

.

people are afraid, desperate and yes, angry. as they should be. corporate interests have ruined small farmers, only factory farms remain, at the cost of the environment.

i hate to say it but i think america has truly become the evil empire...

I hadn't even considered that, but YES. I agree.

The Middle Class here is fading faster than the appeal of a new Prince release.

I agree too...but the anger is misdirected away from the the real issues xxaxx describes by the very pop culture distractions that you mentioned in your reply bro. The brain-rot programming you spoke of is not helpful.

More people are lashing out blindly, every which way... they feel powerless to confront the larger problems, so they pick an easy target.



Good points.

It's hilarious, only the Warehouse (Our Walmart) charges for them now. Other stores did, but stopped when too many people went crazy and did the Escalation process. Not surprisingly most were Maori and Islander or poor, the people who watch every penny in necessitys, but will eagerly blow all their money on junk food, gambling, music, rap or drugs.

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I can bet you most of yours are likely to be poor or Black, like the Black guy who flipped out ovr a $1 charge for some fee on Hardcore pawn and went so crazy, that Les Goldberg the guy who runs it gave him a dollar to pay it, just to shut up.

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You see reality videos of mostly obese females with hair weaves and topknots flip out over tiny fees and have what I call a Hip hop hematoma over it like "Gurrrlllll!!!!! Laquish hold ma weave" and yet the stores charge it are the most ghettoey ones like Walmart.

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But regardless of the race or social class who do it, its hardly a reason to go nuts, a simple no thanks would suffice and if the customer looked bundled under and really stressed poor looking, I am sure all but the most STONE HEARTED, would just give them the damn bag anyway.

babynoz said:

PurpleJedi said:

I hadn't even considered that, but YES. I agree.

The Middle Class here is fading faster than the appeal of a new Prince release.

I agree too...but the anger is misdirected away from the the real issues xxaxx describes by the very pop culture distractions that you mentioned in your reply bro. The brain-rot programming you spoke of is not helpful.

More people are lashing out blindly, every which way... they feel powerless to confront the larger problems, so they pick an easy target.



Good points.

Yes we live in a culture, where a bunch of people always need to be starting some shit over the teensiest things and they have to SET IT OFF. Some people aren't happy unless they are shrieking and casuing a Ruckus. Just watch world star hip hop or anything by the Advise show or TNN Raw.

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Heaps of videos of people killing each other over a soft drink, a childrens meal at Dennys or being served irst at McDonalds. You know something is wrong with folks, when some hood ass KFCs and wendys have bullet proof glass around the counters.

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Set it off to the left y'all, set it off to the right y'all, set it off.

MTV is the worst brain rot network of the lot, all of the shows feature teenage morons. Jackass, Geordie Shore, Jersey Shore, 16 and Pregnant, all that shit. There are pages showing that all the stars of Jersey shore have IQs in the 70s, the Situation has an IQ of 72 and Snookie 76, are these the role models we should be looking up to? These are Forrest Gump/Waldo Faldo level IQ's semi retarded basically. People want to be rappers and NBA players rather than scientists or world leaders. Girls want a big ass like Kim Kardashian or Nicki Minaj (Described as having an IQ of 80).

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Artists like Black eyed peas, Justin Bieber, Boybands, Shit hop, Kardashians, all 2 figure IQ morons, my guess is the IQ level MTV and most reality TV aims at is 55 to 80. My IQ is 130, so it is lost on me then. Idol shows where the winners are all rappers or boy bands.

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Society is doomed by these low IQ morons, who keep reproducing, while people with high IQ's and cultural standards have fewer and fewer children. i have no children, but my high school drop, labouring IQ 90 brother has 3.

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I don't know why this cost is being passed on to the customer. I agree (since they were free for years) that the bags should be provided, and the charge shows a lack of appreciation for the patron, especially someone who spent $200 in the damn store. Maybe the cost should be "forgiven".

I always pay for the damn things because I was also taught for years you SHOULD NOT carry an empty bag into a store because it looks suspect. In fact, I may have had to leave a bag at the front of a store or two.

Cinny said:

I don't know why this cost is being passed on to the customer. I agree (since they were free for years) that the bags should be provided, and the charge shows a lack of appreciation for the patron, especially someone who spent $200 in the damn store. Maybe the cost should be "forgiven".

I always pay for the damn things because I was also taught for years you SHOULD NOT carry an empty bag into a store because it looks suspect. In fact, I may have had to leave a bag at the front of a store or two.

It's not a cost passed on to customer it's supposed to be a deterrent. Using plastic bag after plastic bag is needless and wasteful. It's to encourage patrons to use their own cloth bags instead.

JustErin said:

Cinny said:

I don't know why this cost is being passed on to the customer. I agree (since they were free for years) that the bags should be provided, and the charge shows a lack of appreciation for the patron, especially someone who spent $200 in the damn store. Maybe the cost should be "forgiven".

I always pay for the damn things because I was also taught for years you SHOULD NOT carry an empty bag into a store because it looks suspect. In fact, I may have had to leave a bag at the front of a store or two.

It's not a cost passed on to customer it's supposed to be a deterrent. Using plastic bag after plastic bag is needless and wasteful. It's to encourage patrons to use their own cloth bags instead.

That's not practical in the States....

because eventually some people will be pulled aside to have their bags checked. Drama waiting to happen.

Nine years ago I had bought some glassware at Crate & Barrel. As I was walking out, I realized I had left one of my four bags at the counter. I go back and get my bag,here comes security. I had 4 large Crate & Barrel bags.

"Excuse me.. I need to check your bags"

I said, "What did you say." "For what"?

"I need to check your bag"

I said, "You aren't checking a damn thing...I'm walking out of this store with the things I've purchased.

"Well Ma' ma, I'll have to call Chicago PD... they walk up and down Mich Ave.

I said, " You simple minded MF I don't care who you call." Of course I had lost it...

I hadn't realized it but had thrown the glassware to the floor and told him to look now. While all this is going on, here comes the sales clerk and manager of the store....

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That's what you get for living in California.

Genesia said:

TD3 said:

TD3 said:

JustErin said:

It's not a cost passed on to customer it's supposed to be a deterrent. Using plastic bag after plastic bag is needless and wasteful. It's to encourage patrons to use their own cloth bags instead.

That's not practical in the States....

because eventually some people will be pulled aside to have their bags checked. Drama waiting to happen.

Nine years ago I had bought some glassware at Crate & Barrel. As I was walking out, I realized I had left one of my four bags at the counter. I go back and get my bag,here comes security. I had 4 large Crate & Barrel bags.

"Excuse me.. I need to check your bags"

I said, "What did you say." "For what"?

"I need to check your bag"

I said, "You aren't checking a damn thing...I'm walking out of this store with the things I've purchased.

"Well Ma' ma, I'll have to call Chicago PD... they walk up and down Mich Ave.

I said, " You simple minded MF I don't care who you call." Of course I had lost it...

I hadn't realized it but had thrown the glassware to the floor and told him to look now. While all this is going on, here comes the sales clerk and manager of the store....

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What happened to you is unfortunate, but I don't see how it would have made a difference whether you had a bag provided by the store or your own cloth bag. ALDI in the states has a policy of bring your own bag or buy one at the store as you check out and it seems to work fine for everyone.

sexton said:

TD3 said:

That's not practical in the States....

because eventually some people will be pulled aside to have their bags checked. Drama waiting to happen.

Nine years ago I had bought some glassware at Crate & Barrel. As I was walking out, I realized I had left one of my four bags at the counter. I go back and get my bag,here comes security. I had 4 large Crate & Barrel bags.

"Excuse me.. I need to check your bags"

I said, "What did you say." "For what"?

"I need to check your bag"

I said, "You aren't checking a damn thing...I'm walking out of this store with the things I've purchased.

"Well Ma' ma, I'll have to call Chicago PD... they walk up and down Mich Ave.

I said, " You simple minded MF I don't care who you call." Of course I had lost it...

I hadn't realized it but had thrown the glassware to the floor and told him to look now. While all this is going on, here comes the sales clerk and manager of the store....

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[Edited 4/14/15 14:49pm]

What happened to you is unfortunate, but I don't see how it would have made a difference whether you had a bag provided by the store or your own cloth bag. ALDI in the states has a policy of bring your own bag or buy one at the store as you check out and it seems to work fine for everyone.

I can't speak to ALDI's policy, I've never been to their store. In speaking to Cinny's point of view, about carrying your own cloth shopping bag.... could and would eventually stir-up some nonsense in the States. That's just the way it is... this isn't anything new.

TD3 said:

sexton said:

What happened to you is unfortunate, but I don't see how it would have made a difference whether you had a bag provided by the store or your own cloth bag. ALDI in the states has a policy of bring your own bag or buy one at the store as you check out and it seems to work fine for everyone.

I can't speak to ALDI's policy, I've never been to their store. In speaking to Cinny's point of view, about carrying your own cloth shopping bag.... could and would eventually stir-up some nonsense in the States. That's just the way it is... this isn't anything new.

Not all over the US. Maybe in your neck of the woods. I bring reusable shopping bags with me everywhere I go. Never had an issue.

CarrieMpls said:

TD3 said:

I can't speak to ALDI's policy, I've never been to their store. In speaking to Cinny's point of view, about carrying your own cloth shopping bag.... could and would eventually stir-up some nonsense in the States. That's just the way it is... this isn't anything new.

Not all over the US. Maybe in your neck of the woods. I bring reusable shopping bags with me everywhere I go. Never had an issue.

Yes, IKEA has a similar bring your own bag policy so to say it can't work in the U.S. is incorrect.

i try to have a bunch of cloth bags in my car at all times, so when i shop i have bags with me.

I used to be the manager of a health food shop and managed various other retail stores before that. Some customers think they are better than the 'minions' who are paid to serve them & take any opportunity/excuse to verbally abuse at them. Believe me I've had my fair share of dealing with crap. I eventually left retail saying it would have been the perfect job if it wasn't for the customers

As for carrier bags - in the UK we're fairly accepting of being charged for bags. We were sold the whole enviromental thing bigtime. Most people now either bring their own or pay. The big supermarkets still give bags for free though. Customers pay for bags one way or another so it really doesn't matter if their free or not. Some people just like to give their twopennies worth. My mom's one of them & it annoys the hell out of me but you know what they say about an old dog

TD3 said:

sexton said:

What happened to you is unfortunate, but I don't see how it would have made a difference whether you had a bag provided by the store or your own cloth bag. ALDI in the states has a policy of bring your own bag or buy one at the store as you check out and it seems to work fine for everyone.

I can't speak to ALDI's policy, I've never been to their store. In speaking to Cinny's point of view, about carrying your own cloth shopping bag.... could and would eventually stir-up some nonsense in the States. That's just the way it is... this isn't anything new.

Trina, it is a matter of what type of store you are shopping in.

At most supermarkets, and certain environmentally-conscious stores such as IKEA, bringing your own reusable bags is ENCOURAGED. In fact there's a store I went to (Stop-&-Shop?) that actually pays you 10¢ for every bag you bring.

Then there are stores where customers bringing in their own bags would be a security nightmare. I can't see Best Buy or Bed, Bath & Beyond for example, encouraging that. I assume that Crate & Barrel falls under that category (plus of course your skin tone has to be taken into account ).

But in the end, it seems that those cheap plastic shopping bags are becoming a thing of the past.

JustErin said:

TD3 said:

That's not practical in the States....

because eventually some people will be pulled aside to have their bags checked. Drama waiting to happen.

Nine years ago I had bought some glassware at Crate & Barrel. As I was walking out, I realized I had left one of my four bags at the counter. I go back and get my bag,here comes security. I had 4 large Crate & Barrel bags.

"Excuse me.. I need to check your bags"

I said, "What did you say." "For what"?

"I need to check your bag"

I said, "You aren't checking a damn thing...I'm walking out of this store with the things I've purchased.

"Well Ma' ma, I'll have to call Chicago PD... they walk up and down Mich Ave.

I said, " You simple minded MF I don't care who you call." Of course I had lost it...

I hadn't realized it but had thrown the glassware to the floor and told him to look now. While all this is going on, here comes the sales clerk and manager of the store....

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[Edited 4/14/15 14:49pm]

That has never happened here. Ever.

That's exactly the kind of drama I was outlining (except in Canada it would be security doing the check as one apologizes)

XxAxX said:

i try to have a bunch of cloth bags in my car at all times, so when i shop i have bags with me.

I keep three shopping bags in my car.....and forget them every time I go to the store,

babynoz said:

XxAxX said:

i try to have a bunch of cloth bags in my car at all times, so when i shop i have bags with me.

I keep three shopping bags in my car.....and forget them every time I go to the store,