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I Never Liked NBC's Brian Williams! Mainly because I always saw him for what he was; a good looking celebrity masquerading as a journalist. I guess that could be said for all of them, but never so much as when Brian Williams would appear on some show coming off way too shmoozy for his own good. Now that stories are breaking left and right about his lack of credibility I can pat my intuition on its back. Mr. Williams, audition for Jimmy Fallon and take up residence on his couch as a sidekick. Your services are no longer needed. > http://www.latimes.com/op...story.html
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so will he be back? As I almost always say: what he did seems unacceptable if he is fired that is fine with me if he quits that is fine too (well the only reason he would quit is to avoid being fired). I do deplore when people lie about military stuff. he totally made up the RPG thing. And then he seems to have lied again in his apology. But the reports are conflicting so whatever.
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> Yeah I see what you mean.
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I like Brian and never had a reason to dislike him...I'm certainly not going to dislike another Dude cuz he THINKS he's better looking than Black me..On the flip-side to the Scandal, I NEVER saw it coming. Brian's voice is so authoritative and "I'm the Main Man, I'm the News Baby, ya'dig"...I was shocked to hear he lied about flying in the helicopter that was shot down....All he had to do was talk about the actual helicopter that was shot and what happened when both helicopters landed...He was there on the scene for all of that....But noooooo, LOL...OL'boy had to place his ass right there INSIDE the helicopter that was shot down....LOL....It's hard to clean that up...I forgive him and I don't think he should lose his job, but then again I'm a Liberal and I WORSHIP NBC & MSNBC like Bees to Honey.... [Edited 2/9/15 4:28am] | |
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This doesn't surprise me at all. I've often encountered people like this as a civilian and in the military. I recall this one guy in our office who was telling us some story about something that had happen to him back in the day. It sounded familiar. I look at the other dude sitting near me who shout to the story teller "Hey, I told you that happen to me"! The guy had taken someone else story and adopted it as his own. He just forgot where he heard it and made the mistake of retelling it to the person whom it actually happened to. It was classic, you had to be there. [Edited 2/9/15 4:07am] | |
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That's a great example but look at it like this...I've never been shot at, ever...If I'm remembering correctly I've never been in a situation where random Gun shots were Fired...There's no way I would make up a story about being "shot at" knowing I've never experienced that....Brian could have told a GREAT and Heroic story about the helicopter that was shot down because it was flying behind the one he was in..That part did happen...The odd part is that he put himself in the wrong helicopter..Was it a "memory thing or a Flat out Lie" that he thought he could get away with? NBC is waiting to see how this plays out in the Public and Social Media...I think he deserves a 2nd chance as long as he can remember the right things as they actually happened...LOL... | |
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OK. Who at NBC doesn't like Mr. Williams or has an ax to grind?
Because this shit happened damn near a decade ago... his exagerations and/or lies could have be "shot down" when he first opened his mouth to tell his tale(s).Why? It sounds like to me the classic back biting, brutal, and ruthless game(s) people play in Corporate America. Gotcha! Some folks (his bosses, producer, the men in the helicopter with him) knew all along he had lied, sat on story, kept the story in their back pocket... to used for a later day. Oh well, what will be will be.
I stopped watching TV news when journalist started courting celebrity. The 24 news cycle are controlled and owned by people who hire mouth pieces to do puff pieces or engage in push button politics. Most of them lie. (IMHO) | |
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So he is the only one being held accountable for lying about Iraq? | |
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There's something about Katrina and someone dug up another ancient tape of him exaggerating about something.
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Of course those folks would tell ya... that's different.v
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Fire 'em all! | |
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I agree 100% and I didn't mean to make this into a P&R conversation, I just think this is ridiculous. | |
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What do you mean half and most? Fire them all and everyone over at MSNBC and NBC. THe only newscaster I trust is- | |
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How Brian Williams lost his gravitas to NBC’s relentless marketing machineEven before "misremembering," years of self-parody promoting the network diluted the anchor's credibilityShare 37 47 0 Topics: NBC, Brian Williams, Mindy Kaling, nbc nightly news, Saturday Night Live, SNL, Jimmy Fallon, 30 Rock, Entertainment News Brian Williams on "Saturday Night Live" with Tina Fey and Alec Baldwin (Credit: NBC) In 2011, actress and comedian Mindy Kaling—then a breakout NBC star from the “The Office”—remarked on Twitter, in a joke that sounds awkwardly foreboding now, given the events of the last week: “At this point there must be some teenagers who think Brian Williams is a sketch comedy actor who has a really dry nightly parody news show.” It’s unclear exactly what Kaling was responding to—probably the fifth season of “30 Rock,” which ran from January to May of that year, and featured “NBC Nightly News” anchor Williams in three episodes (“¡Que Sorpresa!” and “100,” parts one and two). But it could have been other moments, too: By 2011, Williams was a frequent host on “Late Night With Jimmy Fallon,” slow-jamming the news on a variety of topics, a giant head on “The Daily Show With Jon Stewart,” and an occasional guest star on “Saturday Night Live,” too. In almost all of his appearances, Williams played a game, competent, hilarious version of himself: In “30 Rock,” he adopts a more than proficient New Jersey accent; in “Saturday Night Live,” he plays an entirely convincing newsman from 1970. Ever since becoming “NBC Nightly News” lead anchor and managing editor, in 2003, Williams has played up his anchor-face both for his work—which is award-winning—and for occasional but well-earned laughs. advertisement And then Williams embellished a war story from 2003 and repeated it on-air on Feb. 2; this has varying importance, depending on whom you ask. Williams has stepped away from his role for an indeterminate amount of time while NBC News conducts an internal investigation into Williams’ trustworthiness (which, as columns at Time and the New York Times observe, will be a case of an employee investigating the boss, which is not exactly objective). This means that over the course of the last few days, Williams’ forays into the land of make-believe have become the butt of the joke, instead of the joke itself. Conan O’Brien and Larry Wilmore made cracks about Williams’ fabrications in the opening monologues to their shows Monday night; Jon Stewart devoted a lengthy and more even-handed segment to the story (Williams is, reportedly, a friend). Regardless of whether Williams’ “misremembering” merits termination, though, this is really not about him, or about journalistic ethics, as much of the media is making it out to be. The story is instead about what Stewart charmingly calls “infotainment confusion syndrome,” which occurs when “the celebrity cortex gets its wires crossed with the medulla anchordala.” As David Carr points out in the Times, being a news anchor requires a public persona that is a nearly impossible combination of traits: “We want our anchors to be everywhere, to be impossibly famous, globe-trotting, hilarious, down-to-earth, and above all, trustworthy. It’s a job description that no one can match.” Williams undoubtedly had a hand in undermining that peerless image, whether that was through fabricating this story or delivering a line or two from Sir Mix-A-Lot’s “Baby Got Back” with Jimmy Fallon on “The Tonight Show.” But it is impossible to view this story without viewing the deliberate line-blurring that is NBC’s cross-promotional marketing—marketing that has placed Williams front-and-center in a branding strategy that appears to have now quite publicly backfired. Williams, once he ascended to the anchor’s chair, became a flagship brand—one that NBC could use to promote, revitalize or reinforce other branded content, whether that was scripted work like “30 Rock” or late-night comedy like “The Tonight Show” and “Saturday Night Live.” Jimmy Fallon uses Brian Williams as a bastion of reason to slow-jam with; Williams uses Fallon as an injection of instant cool. NBC uses both to tie the shows and the franchises to each other. “The Tonight Show,” “SNL” and “NBC Nightly News” are franchises that have defined the network’s success for decades; NBC follows through by attempting to yoke them all together in viewers’ minds. And “30 Rock,” in its seven seasons, was a show that simultaneously mocked NBC’s structure and wrote the mythos around it—how many other addresses of news networks can you name? Every network tries to cross-promote—characters on ABC’s “Nashville” will only entertain interviews from ABC shows like “Good Morning America,” for example—but NBC is the best at it. That peacock is ubiquitous; those three-tone chimes are immediately recognizable. And the “Brotherhood of Man” promo I mentioned earlier offers a dys- or utopia—depending on how you feel about it—that offers a comprehensive world of programming—comedies, procedurals, musicals, late-night comedy, news and, of course, the Super Bowl. The combined cast of seemingly every show under NBC’s banner joins together—including, prominently, Mindy Kaling—and changes the last words to “aren’t you proud to be / right here on NBC / in this great brotherhood of man?” Not for nothing is this both the oldest and the No. 1 network in America. Williams has, of course, been a celebrity guest on other networks’ shows—his 2013 appearance on “The Late Show With David Letterman,” a CBS property, is at the center of this kerfuffle. If anything, though, his casual remarks as a guest to David Letterman seem less significant than cameos on his employer’s other shows. The former is a hobby; the latter is work. If NBC wants its anchors to be comedians and performers on top of being responsible, trustworthy deliverers of the news, then perhaps they should reconsider what they demand of their newsreaders. There’s a reason that “SNL’s” “Weekend Update” is not “NBC Nightly News.” And there’s a reason, too, why the actress daughters of news anchors perhaps shouldn’t be eligible for the lead in a live musical on that same network. Brian Williams is an incredible brand—he’s easily the most recognizable network news anchor in America—and it seems to me that in their eagerness to cross-promote, NBC ended up irrevocably diluting his credibility. Ultimately, I am not sure what needs to happen for “NBC Nightly News” to regain its footing. As frustrating as the specter of “infotainment” is, I have to be honest: Brian Williams is funny on “Saturday Night Live,” he’s hilarious in “30 Rock,” and look, I’ve seen that “Brotherhood of Man” promo at least a dozen times—today. But news and entertainment have always mixed uncomfortably—and NBC is getting in the way of its own success by focusing on what is little more than self-congratulatory branding.[Edited 2/10/15 21:32pm] | |
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You know, I don't get the 6-months UNPAID suspension thing...It's Odd @ Best...Years ago a close coworker of mine was placed on "Administrative leave" and I knew he was not coming back because previous coworkers never came back. The interesting thing is they let him keep the Company SUV until the "investigation or cremation of Skeletons" was complete or whatever...He said HR fired him via FedEx which had a few pages inclosed as to "why they were letting him go"....He returned the SUV and began a lawsuit against our Employer...I have a hard time believing Brian is gonna return in 6-months...Why would he want to return with that "cloud" hovering over him? Then a Radio personality said it's UNPAID leave... | |
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Chancellor, polish those shoes, get out your blue suit, white shirt and blue tie, and send in your resume, cuz NBC is looking for a new network anchor.
And the people that you knew at Elaine's
This is a case of someone getting caught up...
p.s. Iraq War Helicopter Pilot...ccuracies. ==============================
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Lying Williams | |
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Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy! | |
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Best thought I've had today...
Brian's New Job = THE DAILY SHOW | |
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no. he is okay but he is no comic. it would fail. he will likely never be on any major show again. but he would be a disaster on the daily show
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He is a pretty face who speaks well. In other words, he is expendable. Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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