Crows also have amazing facial recognition. They are fascinating creatures.

lazycrockett said:

you can tell them apart because (among other things i'm not sure of like size and feather formation) crows have a beak that meets in a point, and ravens have an upper beak which hooks over the lower beak, like a hawk.

crows are related to bluejays in the corvidae family. one of my very favorite creatures. makes me really sad that they have such a 'dark' reputation and 'bad' place in mythology. crows are regarded as harbingers of doom, the devil's messengers, and etc.

it's like the way no one will adopt black cats at the shelter because of superstitions related to black cats. i'm afraid people think it's okay to mistreat crows beause they're 'bad'.

my aunt helen used to feed the crows on her farm. she and the crows had a ritual, every morning around 8 the crows would wait for her down by the barn and if she didn't come at her normal time they'd advance on the farmhouse, step by step, calling sternly for her until she brought them some table scraps. it was love. crows are amazing birds. super intelligent. thank you for the documentary link

I hate people who yell at crows to shut up. I'd much rather listen to the crows than those dumbasses yelling.

last spring they landscaped here at the association; cut down a tree with four little bluejay babies in it. some neighbors and i built a new nest out of a straw hat and stuck it in a nearvy tree, chicks inside. the parents watched us, dive bombed us occasionally but were quick to accept the new location and nest. over the next 12 days they successfully raised three chicks. one of the original four mysteriously disappeared overnight, one died learning to fly, and two flew away with their parents. out of the construction zone to hopefully safety. they were super super cutie babies

Hudson said:

I hate people who yell at crows to shut up. I'd much rather listen to the crows than those dumbasses yelling.

crows don't sound melodic eh?

okay i watched the doc. that guy better stop bustin into nests to strap those radio tag body harness antenna things on innocent baby crows. i can't imagine any bird would appreciate that.

XxAxX said:

they said the crows were learning from us. what if they eventually learn war from humans?

XxAxX said:

XxAxX said:

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

I wish I was a bird.

That was a good documentary. It was so interesting to see their funeral, their respect for life.

BobGeorge909 said:

XxAxX said:

they said the crows were learning from us. what if they eventually learn war from humans?

Then I suppose u might end up in a Hitchcock film...? I hope that's a joke question. But let's b real about it it. We by FAR outsize them. Also, we by FAR out number them. The tools we make r MUCH more able than twigs fashioned into hooks. As adaptable as they may be, its infantile in relation to humans. I'm not scared. As for other animals...many protective measures already in place for them will be effective against crows who've managed to rally a war. Any increase in numbers to be more effective as a war unit would also create food shortages for crows as well as a lack of shelter for them. It would also create an abundance of numbers for their natural predators to attack, helping to increase their predators numbers as well as helping create new natural predators. Maybe u should write a 'planet of the crows' movie trilogy and see how it pans out. [Edited 10/25/14 5:29am] [Edited 10/25/14 5:30am]

And the Caw Shall Inherit the Earth

morningsong said:

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

i've wanted to see ravens but they live north of me. ravens are a lot bigger than crows, yes? one time i tried to count the number of calls a crow makes and try to figure out some kind of code, but have yet to get far with that.

They are supposed to be bigger, but without an original point of reference the word bigger means nothing. Its not like they'll let you walk up and measure them, so saying one is that length and the other is this length is pointless unless you're very good at distance measuring. I realize in a lot of areas they've become a problem, not sure if they're a problem here, doesn't seem like it. There is a spot were I heard some people go to watch them gather by the hundreds. My understanding is ravens and crows can hang out together, but ravens tend to isolate themselves more, so I doubt there be a place that opened for people to watch ravens. Since people say these are crows, they are far larger then I imagined them to be. They're huge. Ravens must be massive. Since they have facial recognition time to accidentally drop a few cheetos regularly.

and caw at them now and then.

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

^ Naw, I'll skip the guys in white coats wanting me to try on a backwards jacket with lots of buckles and extremely long sleeves part, which would happen I go out cawing to myself. [Edited 10/26/14 23:06pm]

but.... they will caw right back at you

BobGeorge909 said:

XxAxX said:

BobGeorge909 said:

XxAxX said:

they said the crows were learning from us. what if they eventually learn war from humans?

Then I suppose u might end up in a Hitchcock film...? I hope that's a joke question. But let's b real about it it. We by FAR outsize them. Also, we by FAR out number them. The tools we make r MUCH more able than twigs fashioned into hooks. As adaptable as they may be, its infantile in relation to humans. I'm not scared. As for other animals...many protective measures already in place for them will be effective against crows who've managed to rally a war. Any increase in numbers to be more effective as a war unit would also create food shortages for crows as well as a lack of shelter for them. It would also create an abundance of numbers for their natural predators to attack, helping to increase their predators numbers as well as helping create new natural predators.Maybe u should write a 'planet of the crows' movie trilogy and see how it pans out. [Edited 10/25/14 5:29am] [Edited 10/25/14 5:30am]

And the Caw Shall Inherit the Earth

Excellent title.!

actually, i wasn't worried about crows waging war on humans, but rather, evolving to a state where the concept of 'war' between crows will catch on. are there even any other animals on this planet that wage 'wars'?? maybe insects?

Monkey's will team up and kill another monkey if it doesn't go along with the social interaction that has been established in the group.

XxAxX said:

lazycrockett said:

Monkey's will team up and kill another monkey if it doesn't go along with the social interaction that has been established in the group.

interesting. maybe a start to warlike behavior.

XxAxX said: