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Thread started 09/21/14 4:59am

JoeTyler

Hybrid Mutated Animals

is this the world we created? sigh

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Reply #1 posted 09/21/14 5:48am

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you forgot to name each species

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Reply #2 posted 09/21/14 7:09am

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Lygers and Tigons are actually real.

Where do Ligers Come From?

Irresponsible breeders is the short answer.

A liger is the result of breeding a male lion to a tigress. A tigon is the result of breeding a male tiger to a lioness. Since lions and tigers do not exist in the same areas, this is not something that happens in the wild. It is done in captivity by disreputable carnies to produce a freak that ignorant people will pay to see. These cats suffer from many birth defects and usually die young. Because ligers are usually larger than either parent, it also puts the tigress at great risk in carrying the young and may require C-section deliveries or kill her in the process. When the public quits paying to see these unfortunate creatures, the evil people responsible for breeding them will stop this inhumane practice.

You can stop the abuse. Don’t support places, like T.I.G.E.R.S. and Jungle Island, that breed ligers. Bhagavan Antle who calls ... Doc Antle, the person you will most often see promoting this shameful practice, has gone to great lengths to stop us and the brave young girl who created the video at the bottom of the page, from letting you know the truth. Visit her YouTube site HERE and let her know you appreciate what she is doing to prevent the future breeding of ligers and tigons.

When you see ligers in the news or on TV, write the station and let the reporters know the truth about hybrids. You can send 5 letters at once to the media of your choice through our online email system at CatLaws.com

What does a liger look like?

Actually they aren’t this dramatic. See real photos of ligers below.

Find out more about Big Cat Rescue’s liger and tiger rescue.

Read about the conviction of those invol... in the US. They excuse their behavior by making the case that ligers and tigons are not protected by the Endangered Species Act. Now you know why so many of these sleazy back yard breeders are trying to produce more of them.

LIGERS and TIGONS

Video by a Big Cat AdvoCat. Visit her site: http://www.youtube.com/wa...KYILLEdy5s

Liger PhotoThe following story attempts to make it sound like there could be some reason to breed lions and tigers for public amusement, but anyone who cares about animals knows that this is a despicable thing to do because the cats have to spend their lives in deprivation and confinement and are genetically so unhealthy that they usually die young. The ONLY reason anyone breeds ligers is to create a freak that simple minded people will pay to see.

Ligers Make a “Dynamite” Leap Into the Limelight

by: Maryann Mott August 5, 2005

It’s half lion, half tiger, and completely real. Now thanks to a cameo in the 2004 cult movie Napoleon Dynamite, the liger has leaped into the limelight, prompting fans to ask, What are they really like?

The faintly striped, shaggy-maned creatures are the offspring of male lions and female tigers, which gives them the ability to both roar like lions and chuff like tigers-a supposedly affectionate sound that falls somewhere between a purr and a raspberry.

Weighing in at about a thousand pounds (450 kilograms) each, they typically devour 50 pounds (23 kilograms) of raw meat in a meal.

“For the most part they’re really laid back,” said Jason Hutcherson, vice president of Wild Animal Safari in Pine Mountain , Georgia . “They like to swim and play in the water.”

The drive-through wildlife park is believed to have the country’s largest concentration of ligers, housing ten of the massive cats.

Since 1999 the park has bred its male lion and female tiger many times, producing about 24 cubs.

Not all of them have been healthy, though.

LIger Picture“We’ve had 3 out of 24 that, for all practical purposes, were normal but developed as they grew older some kind of neurological disorder,” Hutcherson said.

Autopsies didn’t reveal what caused the cubs to develop “head shakes,” so park staff “chalked it up to a genetic defect,” Hutcherson said.

Accredited zoos frown on the practice of mixing two different species and have never bred ligers, says Jane Ballentine, a spokesperson for the American Zoo and Aquarium Association, based in Silver Spring , Maryland.

“Keeping the two species separate has always been standard procedure,” she said.

Wild Ligers?

Long before fans heard Napoleon claim that the liger is “pretty much my favorite animal,” there have been rumors of the hybrid’s existence in the wild.

Lion-tiger mating occurs in captivity. But it does not happen in the wild, probably for the same reason humans do not breed with gorillas or chimps.

“Crossing the species line” does not generally occur in the wild, because “it would result in diminished fitness of the offspring,” said Ronald Tilson, director of conservation at the Minnesota Zoo in Apple Valley.

Geography is another obstacle to natural lion-tiger mating. Wild tigers mainly inhabit Asia, whereas the lion’s current natural habitat is almost entirely in Africa.

The Gir National Forest in India is the only place in the world where tiger and lion ranges overlap, fueling speculation that wild ligers roamed the area hundreds of years ago.

Tilson doesn’t believe it.

“This would be highly improbable, because the Gir forest is really very dry and not optimal tiger habitat,” he said.

A Liger Named Patrick

Perched on the edge of the Mojave Desert near Los Angeles , California , a lone liger, named Patrick, lives at Shambala Preserve, which bills itself as “a haven for endangered exotic big cats.”

“The interesting thing about these animals is that they have the best qualities of the tiger and the best of the lion,” said movie actress and conservationist Tippi Hedren, who has run Shambala since 1972. “Those qualities manifest themselves in the fact that they like to be in the water [a tiger trait] and are very social [a lion trait].”

Many of the cats at the 80-acre (32-hectare) sanctuary are orphans or castoffs from circuses, zoos, and private owners who could no longer care for the animals.

ShambalaPatrick arrived at the sanctuary seven years ago after federal authorities shutdown the roadside zoo in Illinois where he lived.

The 800-pound (360-kilogram) liger was kept in such a small cage that his hind-leg muscles had started to atrophy, said Hedren, who starred in Alfred Hitchcock’s The Birds.

Patrick’s compound at Shambala allows him plenty of room for exercise. A stream runs through his compound, so his tiger half can play in the water or his lion half can stay out of it, whichever he chooses.

Liger in the Hills

Spirit of the Hills Wildlife Sanctuary in Spearfish, South Dakota , recently acquired a liger named Samson and 48 other big cats after federal authorities closed a Minnesota wildlife facility.

“Everyone who comes wants to see Samson,” said Trevor Smith, an environmental biologist and sanctuary board member.

The four-and-a-half-year-old hybrid tips the scales at over a thousand pounds (over 450 kilograms), and eats 30 to 50 pounds (14 to 23 kilograms) of raw meat every other day.

Liger at Big Cat Rescue

“Samson is really picky. He’ll only eat beef, elk, and venison,” Smith said. “We try and feed him chicken, like the other animals, but he won’t touch it. He’ll let it rot in the sun.”

The sanctuary-whose mission is to educate people about wild animals and emphasize that they don’t make good pets-has seen a surge in visitors since Samson’s arrival in June.

Much of the public’s curiosity about the liger stems from Napoleon Dynamite, Smith said.

Smith worries that Samson is “becoming too much of a freak show.”

If Samson had his way, Smith said, he’d sleep away the day inside, away from public view.

“We’ve had a huge ethical debate at the sanctuary on whether or not we should lock him out of his shed,” Smith said. “But at the same time, he’s why the visitors are coming.”

Tigons and Ti-tigons

A tigon is the product of a male tiger and female lion. They receive growth inhibitor genes from both parents and so are smaller than either of them. They show much the same coloration of ligers except they sometimes have more distinct stripes. As with ligers the females are fertile whereas the males are sterile. They have the same vocalizations as liger, a sort of cross between lion and tiger. Ti-tigons speak tiger. Tigons are now rarer than ligers, but in the late 1800’s/early 1900’s tigons were more common.

Meet our past liger friend Freckles

This lion and tiger had been raised together for the bad purpose of creating ligers. The female was spayed and the male got a vasectomy upon arrival to Big Cat Rescue to ensure there would be no “accidents.”

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Reply #3 posted 09/21/14 9:15am

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http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Old-McDonald-had-a-geep-5662736.php

Rare 'geep,' from sheep, goat pairing, born in Arizona

BLEAH B. PATTERSON, SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS-NEWS : AUGUST 1, 2014 : Updated: August 1, 2014 4:57pm

Butterfly, a geep, is half goat and half sheep. Her mother is a ewe and her father is a goat. She was born Sunday in Scottsdale, Arizona. Photo: Petting Zoo Owner,  Priscilla Motola / Courtesy

Right about now, you're thinking, a what?

Butterfly, born Sunday, is the offspring of a pairing between a ewe, (a female sheep) and a goat.

Black and white in color, Butterfly is getting a lot of attention.

"This wasn't planned," said Priscilla Motola, owner of My Petting Zoo of Scottsdale, Arizona."It just kind of happened."

Motola didn't even know Momma, her sheep, was pregnant from a rendezvous with Michael, a goat. This case is so rare that no one is really sure what to call Butterfly except a geep.

A ham for photos with visitors and local news organizations, she is the only reported breed of her kind in the nation.

This cutie has the features of a goat, but the woolen coat of a lamb, AZ Central reported.

In April, BBC News reported Ireland's first birth of a geep, where a goat mated with a sheep belonging to a sheep farmer. Before that, a geep birth had been reported by TIME magazine in Botswana in 1984.

The Irish farmer said he noticed his geep, "was able to run faster than other lambs that were born around the same time," the newspaper reported.

Geep are quite rare because goats and sheep hardly mate, and when they do their offspring are stillborn according to a report by KHON2.

"This is really uncommon," Motola said said. "It's the first time it's ever happened here, and I've been doing so much research, finding there aren't very many in the world."

So far Butterfly is healthy and happy, "jumping around, nursing and playing with her mom," Motola said.

bpatterson@express-news.net


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Reply #4 posted 09/21/14 9:41am

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funny, I always thought that cross species sperm and eggs didn't match up. Next there will be half farm boy&sheep.

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Reply #5 posted 09/21/14 9:59am

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Hybrid animals aren't new; a mule is the offspring of a donkey and a horse. Male mules are sterile and cannot procreate.

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #7 posted 09/21/14 2:54pm

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Reply #8 posted 09/21/14 5:30pm

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According to one of Cloudbuster's impeccable sources. there are Modified Attack Baboons not very far from me. Allegedly these Modified Attack Baboons can run 30 MPH and are way stronger than people.

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Reply #9 posted 09/21/14 6:06pm

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lol

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Reply #10 posted 09/21/14 6:37pm

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I absolutely don't get this. There's nothing unusual or new about hybrid animals or plants, people have been doing it for 1000s of years, apples, corn, dogs and cats. Nature for millions of years, every living thing on the planet. Granted we have the means to take it to the next level, actual gene/DNA manipulation, which can be a little unnerving but we knew that was coming so its here. Maybe you need to research a bit more and see what's going on everyday that does impact your life.
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RodeoSchro said:

According to one of Cloudbuster's impeccable sources. there are Modified Attack Baboons not very far from me. Allegedly these Modified Attack Baboons can run 30 MPH and are way stronger than people.



i'd like to see you back up what you just posted there. please justify your allegations by 1) linking to his post where he said that and2) linking to the cource material provided by Cloudbuster to support his alleged claim as you repeat it above. if you cannot do this, please delete your post.

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Reply #12 posted 09/22/14 4:57am

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XxAxX said:

RodeoSchro said:

According to one of Cloudbuster's impeccable sources. there are Modified Attack Baboons not very far from me. Allegedly these Modified Attack Baboons can run 30 MPH and are way stronger than people.



i'd like to see you back up what you just posted there. please justify your allegations by 1) linking to his post where he said that and2) linking to the cource material provided by Cloudbuster to support his alleged claim as you repeat it above. if you cannot do this, please delete your post.



Sure. This comes from Dr. Bill Deagle, who Cloudbuster used as one of his sources for the existence of chemtrails. Cloudbuster used him on that epic chemtrail thread: http://prince.org/msg/100...?&pg=6. Cloudbuster use Deagle in reply #150.

Deagle's claim of Modified Attack Baboons is included in a video (maybe even one that Cloudbuster posted). Discussions of that claim are here: http://swallowingthecamel..._5372.html and here: http://blogs.phoenixnewti...y_dr_w.php.

The last link contains Deagle's actual Modified Attack Baboon quote. Satisfied?

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RodeoSchro said:

XxAxX said:



i'd like to see you back up what you just posted there. please justify your allegations by 1) linking to his post where he said that and2) linking to the cource material provided by Cloudbuster to support his alleged claim as you repeat it above. if you cannot do this, please delete your post.



Sure. This comes from Dr. Bill Deagle, who Cloudbuster used as one of his sources for the existence of chemtrails. Cloudbuster used him on that epic chemtrail thread: http://prince.org/msg/100...?&pg=6. Cloudbuster use Deagle in reply #150.

Deagle's claim of Modified Attack Baboons is included in a video (maybe even one that Cloudbuster posted). Discussions of that claim are here: http://swallowingthecamel..._5372.html and here: http://blogs.phoenixnewti...y_dr_w.php.

The last link contains Deagle's actual Modified Attack Baboon quote. Satisfied?




not really. i'm still wondering whby you would assume that, just because Cloudbuster posted a link to that source, that he somehow endorses all of the subject matter.

moreover, are you aware that DARPA has actually funded such experiments?? have you done any actual research into this topic? animal hybridization is a fact. the weaponization of animals has been a recognized fact for several decades.

thank you for responding

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Reply #14 posted 09/22/14 6:03am

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XxAxX said:

RodeoSchro said:



Sure. This comes from Dr. Bill Deagle, who Cloudbuster used as one of his sources for the existence of chemtrails. Cloudbuster used him on that epic chemtrail thread: http://prince.org/msg/100...?&pg=6. Cloudbuster use Deagle in reply #150.

Deagle's claim of Modified Attack Baboons is included in a video (maybe even one that Cloudbuster posted). Discussions of that claim are here: http://swallowingthecamel..._5372.html and here: http://blogs.phoenixnewti...y_dr_w.php.

The last link contains Deagle's actual Modified Attack Baboon quote. Satisfied?




not really. i'm still wondering whby you would assume that, just because Cloudbuster posted a link to that source, that he somehow endorses all of the subject matter.

moreover, are you aware that DARPA has actually funded such experiments?? have you done any actual research into this topic? animal hybridization is a fact. the weaponization of animals has been a recognized fact for several decades.

thank you for responding



Sure! And remember - I'm not the one that found out about the Modified Attack Baboons. That was Byron, in reply #154.

But the larger point is this: Deagle subscribes to a LOT of hard-to-believe theories, Modified Attack Baboons being only one of them (his mom's pregnant smoking made him smarter; he's a prophet; Oklahoma City, Columbine and 9/11 were all inside jobs that he either knew about beforehand or was let in the loop for some reason; the Nazis were in league with space aliens; Nokia is altering your DNA through your cell phone; etc.). SURELY Cloudbuster could have found a chemtrail believer that was, shall we say, a little more grounded in reality?

Anyway - I live near Galveston! What if there really ARE Modified Attack Baboons not far from me?!? I have been lifting weights furiously, but has it all been for naught?!?

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XxAxX said:

RodeoSchro said:



Sure. This comes from Dr. Bill Deagle, who Cloudbuster used as one of his sources for the existence of chemtrails. Cloudbuster used him on that epic chemtrail thread: http://prince.org/msg/100...?&pg=6. Cloudbuster use Deagle in reply #150.

Deagle's claim of Modified Attack Baboons is included in a video (maybe even one that Cloudbuster posted). Discussions of that claim are here: http://swallowingthecamel..._5372.html and here: http://blogs.phoenixnewti...y_dr_w.php.

The last link contains Deagle's actual Modified Attack Baboon quote. Satisfied?




not really. i'm still wondering whby you would assume that, just because Cloudbuster posted a link to that source, that he somehow endorses all of the subject matter.

moreover, are you aware that DARPA has actually funded such experiments?? have you done any actual research into this topic? animal hybridization is a fact. the weaponization of animals has been a recognized fact for several decades.

thank you for responding


XxAxX - maybe you misread his post.

Rodeo stated that "according to Cloudbuster's impeccable SOURCES..."
He didn't say "according to Cloudbuster".


By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #16 posted 09/22/14 6:20am

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PurpleJedi said:

XxAxX said:




not really. i'm still wondering whby you would assume that, just because Cloudbuster posted a link to that source, that he somehow endorses all of the subject matter.

moreover, are you aware that DARPA has actually funded such experiments?? have you done any actual research into this topic? animal hybridization is a fact. the weaponization of animals has been a recognized fact for several decades.

thank you for responding


XxAxX - maybe you misread his post.

Rodeo stated that "according to Cloudbuster's impeccable SOURCES..."
He didn't say "according to Cloudbuster".




That's true, but it's fair to say I believe that Cloudbuster buys into Modified Attack Baboons.

But seriously - look at a map. I live about 20 miles up the freeway (I-45) from Galveston. Because Galveston is an island, there aren't many directions one can go away from it. Therefore, these Modified Attack Baboons can't be more than, say, 40 miles from me!

And if they are northeast of Galveston, well I USED to live in Baytown. That would have put me probably 5 - 10 miles from the Modified Attack Baboon facility!

I've lived in this area for 55 years and have yet to hear of even one attack; heck, even one SIGHTING, of Modified Attack Baboons.

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Reply #17 posted 09/22/14 8:48am

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JoeTyler said:

is this the world we created? sigh

The only real one is the liger

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Reply #19 posted 09/22/14 9:51am

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Oh, this is keepin it real!

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ufoclub said:

Oh, this is keepin it real!

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kpowers said:

ufoclub said:

Oh, this is keepin it real!

Those are hella patient dogs to put up with that shit. lol

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