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Golden Globes disses "The Butler" with ZERO nods.

On Wednesday The SAG awards honored "The Butler" with "Best Picture, Best Actor & Best Supporting Actress"...Then on Thursday the Damn Foreign Press showed us their Phat Ass...LOL...They SHUT out "The Butler" completely and went with the Ron Howard flop "Rush" that will probably get ZERO Oscar nods next month. I agree with a few Entertainment Reporters that say the snub appears to be "personal". "The Butler" is "awards bait" as it gets and it deserved to get "Best Picture, Best Actor & Screenplay" if NOTHING else....I might be wrong but I think The Foreign Press intentionally slapped The Mighty Oprah in the Face.

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On the brite side Idris Elba was nominated for "Best Actor in "Mandella" and "Luther" & Chiwetel Ejiofor ALSo got 2 nods for "12yrs" and the showtime Miniseries"...

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The stars of “American Hustle and “12 Years a Slave” are having a very good morning! One day after the nominees for the SAG ... announced, Zoe Saldana, Olivia Wilde and Aziz Ansari announced the nominees for the 71st annual Golden Globes, and those films came out on top, with seven nods each. (Still, others are left scratching their heads, wondering what happened to Oprah’s nomination for “Lee Daniels’ “The Butler”!)

Tune in to the awards ceremony on Jan. 12, and get ready to laugh: Tina Fey and Amy Poehler are returning this year to host.

MOTION PICTURES
Best Drama
12 Years a Slave
Captain Phillips
Gravity
Philomena
Rush

*************************

Best Musical/Comedy
American Hustle
Her
Inside Lleweyn Davis
Nebraska
The Wolf of Wall Street

*************************

Best Director
Alfonso Cuaron, Gravity
Paul Greengrass, Captain Phillips
Steve McQueen, 12 Years a Slave
Alexander Payne, Nebraska
David O. Russell, American Hustle

*********************************

Best Actress in a Drama
Cate Blanchett, Blue Jasmine
Sandra Bullock, Gravity
Judi Dench, Philomena
Emma Thompson, Saving Mr. Banks
Kate Winslet, Labor Day

*********************************

Best Actor in a Drama
Chiwetel Ejiofor, 12 Years a Slave
Idris Elba, Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom
Tom Hanks, Captain Phillips
Matthew McConaughey, Dallas Buyer’s Club
Robert Redford, All Is Lost

*****************************************

Best Actor in a Musical or Comedy
Christian Bale, American Hustle
Bruce Dern, Nebraska
Leonardo Di Caprio, The Wolf of Wall Street
Oscar Isaac, Inside Llewyn Davis
Joaquin Phoenix, Her

******************************************

Best Actress in a Musical or Comedy
Amy Adams, American Hustle
Julie Delpy, Before Midnight
Greta Gerwig, Frances Ha
Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Enough Said
Meryl Streep, August: Osage County

******************************************

Best Supporting Actress
Sally Hawkins, Blue Jasmine
Jennifer Lawrence, American Hustle
Lupita Nyong’o, 12 Years a Slave
Julia Roberts, August: Osage County
June Squibb, Nebraska

******************************************

Best Supporting Actor
Barkhad Abdi, Captain Phillips
Daniel Bruhl, Rush
Bradley Cooper, American Hustle
Michael Fassbender, 12 Years a Slave
Jared Leto, Dallas Buyer’s Club

*********************************************

Best Screenplay
Spike Jonze, Her
Bob Nelson, Nebraska
Jeff Pope/Steve Coogan, Philomena
John Ridley, 12 Years a Slave
Eric Warren Singer, David O. Russell, American Hustle

****************************************************

Best Foreign Language Film
Blue is the Warmest Color
The Great Beauty
The Hunt
The Past
The Wind Rises

*************************

Best Animated Feature
The Croods
Despicable Me 2
Frozen

****************************

Best Original Song
“Atlas,” The Hunger Games, Catching Fire
“Let It Go,” Frozen
“Ordinary Love,” Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom
“Please Mr. Kennedy,” Inside Llewyn Davis
“Sweeter Than Fiction,” One Chance

*****************************************

Best Score
Alex Ebert, All Is Lost
Alex Heffes, Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom
Steven Price, Gravity
John Williams, The Book Thief
Hans Zimmer, 12 Years a Slave

*************************************

TELEVISION

Best TV Comedy or Musical
Girls
Modern Family
Parks and Recreation
The Big Bang Theory
Brooklyn Nine-Nine

*******************************

Best TV Drama
Breaking Bad
Downton Abbey
The Good Wife
House of Cards
Masters of Sex

*************************************

Best Actress in a TV Drama
Julianna Marguiles, The Good Wife
Tatiana Maslany, Orphan Black
Taylor Schilling, Orange Is the New Black
Kerry Washington, Scandal
Robin Wright, House of Cards

**************************************

Best Actress in a TV Comedy
Zooey Deschanel, New Girl
Lena Dunham, Girls
Edie Falco, Nurse Jackie
Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Veep
Amy Poehler, Parks and Recreation

**************************************

Best Actor in a TV Drama
Bryan Cranston, Breaking Bad
Liev Schreiber, Ray Donovan
Michael Sheen, Masters of Sex
Kevin Spacey, House of Cards
James Spader, The Blacklist

**************************************

Best Actor in a TV Comedy
Jason Bateman, Arrested Development
Don Cheadle, House of Lies
Michael J. Fox, The Michael J. Fox Show
Jim Parsons, The Big Bang Theory
Andy Samberg, Brooklyn Nine-Nine

**************************************

Best Miniseries or TV Movie
American Horror Story: Coven
Behind the Candelabra
Dancing on the Edge
Top of the Lake
White Queen

****************************************

Best Actress in a Miniseries or TV Movie
Helena Bonham Carter, Burton and Taylor
Rebecca Ferguson, White Queen
Jessica Lange, American Horror Story
Helen Mirren, Phil Spector
Elisabeth Moss, Top of the Lake

*****************************************

Best Actor in a Miniseries or TV Movie
Matt Damon, Behind the Candelabra
Michael Douglas, Behind the Candelabra
Chiwetel Ejiofor, Dancing on the Edge
Idris Elba, Luther
Al Pacino, Phil Spector

**************************************************

Best Supporting Actress in a TV Show, Miniseries or TV Movie
Jacqueline Bisset, Dancing on the Edge
Janet McTeer, White Queen
Hayden Panettiere, Nashville
Monica Potter, Parenthood
Sofia Vergara, Modern Family

********************************************************

Best Supporting Actor in a TV Show, Miniseries or TV Movie
Josh Charles, The Good Wife
Rob Lowe, Behind the Candelabra
Aaron Paul, Breaking Bad
Corey Stoll, House of Cards
Jon Voight, Ray Donovan

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Reply #1 posted 12/13/13 5:40am

KCOOLMUZIQ

I went to a private screening of "The Butler" for The Film Society Nominee Committee two weeks ago and was blown away by this movie. I'm a just go on say its RACIST! The Golden Globes didn't want two African American movies in the same category. My opinion...

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #2 posted 12/13/13 6:09am

Empress

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I went to a private screening of "The Butler" for The Film Society Nominee Committee two weeks ago and was blown away by this movie. I'm a just go on say its RACIST! The Golden Globes didn't want two African American movies in the same category. My opinion...

Perhaps it was God's will!

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Reply #3 posted 12/13/13 10:03am

kibbles

it was fine for what it was. it wasn't awful, but i don't think that it was anything that special. the best thing about 'the butler' was forest whitaker, and speaking to my other friends who saw it as well, we all thought that he gave that character a depth that the script did not and his performance would be the only reason to see the film. moreover, some of the choices to play the presidents were full on stupid and embarrassing which undermined the whole thing. i didn't know whether to laugh when i saw "nixon" and "reagan". casting fonda as nancy reagan is the type of expert trolling you'd see on the internet. how can the director expect anyone to take the film seriously when he obviously can't?

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Reply #4 posted 12/13/13 11:07am

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Chancellor said:

On Wednesday The SAG awards honored "The Butler" with "Best Picture, Best Actor & Best Supporting Actress"...Then on Thursday the Damn Foreign Press showed us their Phat Ass...LOL...They SHUT out "The Butler" completely and went with the Ron Howard flop "Rush" that will probably get ZERO Oscar nods next month. I agree with a few Entertainment Reporters that say the snub appears to be "personal". "The Butler" is "awards bait" as it gets and it deserved to get "Best Picture, Best Actor & Screenplay" if NOTHING else....I might be wrong but I think The Foreign Press intentionally slapped The Mighty Oprah in the Face.

************************************************************************

On the brite side Idris Elba was nominated for "Best Actor in "Mandella" and "Luther" & Chiwetel Ejiofor ALSo got 2 nods for "12yrs" and the showtime Miniseries"...

*********************************************************************

The stars of “American Hustle and “12 Years a Slave” are having a very good morning! One day after the nominees for the SAG ... announced, Zoe Saldana, Olivia Wilde and Aziz Ansari announced the nominees for the 71st annual Golden Globes, and those films came out on top, with seven nods each. (Still, others are left scratching their heads, wondering what happened to Oprah’s nomination for “Lee Daniels’ “The Butler”!)

Tune in to the awards ceremony on Jan. 12, and get ready to laugh: Tina Fey and Amy Poehler are returning this year to host.

MOTION PICTURES
Best Drama
12 Years a Slave
Captain Phillips
Gravity
Philomena
Rush

*************************

Best Musical/Comedy
American Hustle
Her
Inside Lleweyn Davis
Nebraska
The Wolf of Wall Street

*************************

Best Director
Alfonso Cuaron, Gravity
Paul Greengrass, Captain Phillips
Steve McQueen, 12 Years a Slave
Alexander Payne, Nebraska
David O. Russell, American Hustle

*********************************

Best Actress in a Drama
Cate Blanchett, Blue Jasmine
Sandra Bullock, Gravity
Judi Dench, Philomena
Emma Thompson, Saving Mr. Banks
Kate Winslet, Labor Day

*********************************

Best Actor in a Drama
Chiwetel Ejiofor, 12 Years a Slave
Idris Elba, Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom
Tom Hanks, Captain Phillips
Matthew McConaughey, Dallas Buyer’s Club
Robert Redford, All Is Lost

*****************************************

Best Actor in a Musical or Comedy
Christian Bale, American Hustle
Bruce Dern, Nebraska
Leonardo Di Caprio, The Wolf of Wall Street
Oscar Isaac, Inside Llewyn Davis
Joaquin Phoenix, Her

******************************************

Best Actress in a Musical or Comedy
Amy Adams, American Hustle
Julie Delpy, Before Midnight
Greta Gerwig, Frances Ha
Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Enough Said
Meryl Streep, August: Osage County

******************************************

Best Supporting Actress
Sally Hawkins, Blue Jasmine
Jennifer Lawrence, American Hustle
Lupita Nyong’o, 12 Years a Slave
Julia Roberts, August: Osage County
June Squibb, Nebraska

******************************************

Best Supporting Actor
Barkhad Abdi, Captain Phillips
Daniel Bruhl, Rush
Bradley Cooper, American Hustle
Michael Fassbender, 12 Years a Slave
Jared Leto, Dallas Buyer’s Club

*********************************************

Best Screenplay
Spike Jonze, Her
Bob Nelson, Nebraska
Jeff Pope/Steve Coogan, Philomena
John Ridley, 12 Years a Slave
Eric Warren Singer, David O. Russell, American Hustle

****************************************************

Best Foreign Language Film
Blue is the Warmest Color
The Great Beauty
The Hunt
The Past
The Wind Rises

*************************

Best Animated Feature
The Croods
Despicable Me 2
Frozen

****************************

Best Original Song
“Atlas,” The Hunger Games, Catching Fire
“Let It Go,” Frozen
“Ordinary Love,” Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom
“Please Mr. Kennedy,” Inside Llewyn Davis
“Sweeter Than Fiction,” One Chance

*****************************************

Best Score
Alex Ebert, All Is Lost
Alex Heffes, Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom
Steven Price, Gravity
John Williams, The Book Thief
Hans Zimmer, 12 Years a Slave

*************************************

TELEVISION

Best TV Comedy or Musical
Girls
Modern Family
Parks and Recreation
The Big Bang Theory
Brooklyn Nine-Nine

*******************************

Best TV Drama
Breaking Bad
Downton Abbey
The Good Wife
House of Cards
Masters of Sex

*************************************

Best Actress in a TV Drama
Julianna Marguiles, The Good Wife
Tatiana Maslany, Orphan Black
Taylor Schilling, Orange Is the New Black
Kerry Washington, Scandal
Robin Wright, House of Cards

**************************************

Best Actress in a TV Comedy
Zooey Deschanel, New Girl
Lena Dunham, Girls
Edie Falco, Nurse Jackie
Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Veep
Amy Poehler, Parks and Recreation

**************************************

Best Actor in a TV Drama
Bryan Cranston, Breaking Bad
Liev Schreiber, Ray Donovan
Michael Sheen, Masters of Sex
Kevin Spacey, House of Cards
James Spader, The Blacklist

**************************************

Best Actor in a TV Comedy
Jason Bateman, Arrested Development
Don Cheadle, House of Lies
Michael J. Fox, The Michael J. Fox Show
Jim Parsons, The Big Bang Theory
Andy Samberg, Brooklyn Nine-Nine

**************************************

Best Miniseries or TV Movie
American Horror Story: Coven
Behind the Candelabra
Dancing on the Edge
Top of the Lake
White Queen

****************************************

Best Actress in a Miniseries or TV Movie
Helena Bonham Carter, Burton and Taylor
Rebecca Ferguson, White Queen
Jessica Lange, American Horror Story
Helen Mirren, Phil Spector
Elisabeth Moss, Top of the Lake

*****************************************

Best Actor in a Miniseries or TV Movie
Matt Damon, Behind the Candelabra
Michael Douglas, Behind the Candelabra
Chiwetel Ejiofor, Dancing on the Edge
Idris Elba, Luther
Al Pacino, Phil Spector

**************************************************

Best Supporting Actress in a TV Show, Miniseries or TV Movie
Jacqueline Bisset, Dancing on the Edge
Janet McTeer, White Queen
Hayden Panettiere, Nashville
Monica Potter, Parenthood
Sofia Vergara, Modern Family

********************************************************

Best Supporting Actor in a TV Show, Miniseries or TV Movie
Josh Charles, The Good Wife
Rob Lowe, Behind the Candelabra
Aaron Paul, Breaking Bad
Corey Stoll, House of Cards
Jon Voight, Ray Donovan

But, yet they continue to embrace movies about slavery?

Oprah is a BILLIONAIRE. Not nominating her for a silly Golden Globe is hardly a slap in the face.

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Reply #5 posted 12/13/13 1:52pm

nursev

not really into those kind of movies. As a black woman I've seen enough of them to last a lifetime. Oprah as an actress really doesn't excite me at all and neither does Forrest Whittaker.
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Reply #6 posted 12/13/13 2:06pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #7 posted 12/13/13 6:56pm

Timmy84

kibbles said:

it was fine for what it was. it wasn't awful, but i don't think that it was anything that special. the best thing about 'the butler' was forest whitaker, and speaking to my other friends who saw it as well, we all thought that he gave that character a depth that the script did not and his performance would be the only reason to see the film. moreover, some of the choices to play the presidents were full on stupid and embarrassing which undermined the whole thing. i didn't know whether to laugh when i saw "nixon" and "reagan". casting fonda as nancy reagan is the type of expert trolling you'd see on the internet. how can the director expect anyone to take the film seriously when he obviously can't?

I can only think of one reason: Oprah. That's all. Otherwise, woot! for Idris. smile

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Reply #8 posted 12/13/13 6:57pm

Timmy84

nursev said:

not really into those kind of movies. As a black woman I've seen enough of them to last a lifetime. Oprah as an actress really doesn't excite me at all and neither does Forrest Whittaker.

Butlers and maids in 2010 movies (even if the butler one was based on a real life story) is still so 20th century stuff. I won't be surprised if it doesn't get Oscar nods.

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Reply #9 posted 12/13/13 7:18pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

"The Butler" will get an Oscar nod!!! Oprah is going to be nominated for best Supporting Actress..

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #10 posted 12/13/13 8:38pm

Gunsnhalen

12 Years A Slave was a way more powerful movie. The Butler was jus eh... i do love Forest Whitaker though. Very underrated actor!

Next, i hope for more black movies. This year was decent with 12 Years A Slave, Fruitville Staion, and The Butler. But, i would love black history movies without slavery. It seems that is the ONLY part of African American history hollywood wants to focus on.

And, for us Asians. I would like more Asian themed movies as well.

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Reply #11 posted 12/13/13 9:19pm

Timmy84

Gunsnhalen said:

12 Years A Slave was a way more powerful movie. The Butler was jus eh... i do love Forest Whitaker though. Very underrated actor!

Next, i hope for more black movies. This year was decent with 12 Years A Slave, Fruitville Staion, and The Butler. But, i would love black history movies without slavery. It seems that is the ONLY part of African American history hollywood wants to focus on.

And, for us Asians. I would like more Asian themed movies as well.

Yeah. It's a complex issue. I think with some blacks, we're okay (not me personally of course) with movies that focused on a horrific time in history related to us. I'd love to see movies on Bessie Coleman, Jesse Owens and George Washington Carver. Or even fiction movies that focused on heroes that just happen to be black because we still don't see that often. Forest Whitaker is a great actor, always has been. Loved his work in "The Last King of Scotland" and "Bird". I can only hope that James Brown biopic is put out either next year or the year after next. I agree about more Asian themed movies too.

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Reply #12 posted 12/13/13 10:39pm

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Perhaps I should be more bothered. But Lee Daniels stirkes me as such a jerk that I couldn't care less.

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Reply #13 posted 12/14/13 7:28am

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This rant may get flack but I don't really care. I'm African American and I really don't get how other AA's are bothered or "tired" of seeing movies like "The Butler" or "12 Years A Slave"...it's history, it actually did happen and though it's going to make you mad and uncomfortable, it doesn't bother me that these movies are still being made. You have to think that the real life people who lived these actual events in real life had it 10 times worse that it can ever be portrayed in Hollywood, so even if there's a glimpse of this life being created on film, I think it's a slap in the face for folks to say, "well I'm tired of seeing this type of stuff". The people who lived it never got a break. I think today's generation (no matter the race) don't know too much about history anyway and NEED to see these type of movies to understand how things used to be in order to understand and appreciate those who paved the way for us to not have to go through the things that they had to go through. You don't see folks walking around asking why movies about the Holocaust are still being made, so why is the question of the creation of movies about slavery, maids and butler's still being raised? I don't get it.

Anywho, as far as "The Butler" not getting any nods, I'm not really bothered by that. I'm happy that Idris and the Chiwetel have been nominated, but award shows are shams anyway. It's basically a Hollywood status show. I did see the movie "The Butler" and feel that Forest Whitaker gave a superior performance, Oprah on the other hand, played her best "Miss Sophia meets the 20th Century" type role. She didn't impress me much at all in the movie. I haven't seen "12 days a Slave" yet, but plan to, whether it's seeing it in the movies or when it comes out on DVD.

Now with all of that being said, I really enjoy movies along the lines of "The Best Man Holiday". That movie hands down has been the best movie I've seen in 2013. And no all of those Kevin Hart themed-starring role type movies are not within this type of league that I'm speaking of. I'd like to see more movies about life today. The reason why I loved "The Best Man Holiday" so much is because I could identify and relate to it so much.

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Reply #14 posted 12/14/13 8:48am

Gunsnhalen

missfee said:

This rant may get flack but I don't really care. I'm African American and I really don't get how other AA's are bothered or "tired" of seeing movies like "The Butler" or "12 Years A Slave"...it's history, it actually did happen and though it's going to make you mad and uncomfortable, it doesn't bother me that these movies are still being made. You have to think that the real life people who lived these actual events in real life had it 10 times worse that it can ever be portrayed in Hollywood, so even if there's a glimpse of this life being created on film, I think it's a slap in the face for folks to say, "well I'm tired of seeing this type of stuff". The people who lived it never got a break. I think today's generation (no matter the race) don't know too much about history anyway and NEED to see these type of movies to understand how things used to be in order to understand and appreciate those who paved the way for us to not have to go through the things that they had to go through. You don't see folks walking around asking why movies about the Holocaust are still being made, so why is the question of the creation of movies about slavery, maids and butler's still being raised? I don't get it.

Anywho, as far as "The Butler" not getting any nods, I'm not really bothered by that. I'm happy that Idris and the Chiwetel have been nominated, but award shows are shams anyway. It's basically a Hollywood status show. I did see the movie "The Butler" and feel that Forest Whitaker gave a superior performance, Oprah on the other hand, played her best "Miss Sophia meets the 20th Century" type role. She didn't impress me much at all in the movie. I haven't seen "12 days a Slave" yet, but plan to, whether it's seeing it in the movies or when it comes out on DVD.

Now with all of that being said, I really enjoy movies along the lines of "The Best Man Holiday". That movie hands down has been the best movie I've seen in 2013. And no all of those Kevin Hart themed-starring role type movies are not within this type of league that I'm speaking of. I'd like to see more movies about life today. The reason why I loved "The Best Man Holiday" so much is because I could identify and relate to it so much.

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But, ask any random person on the street. And they will have only seen movies ABOUT slavery. When it comes to African American film... as someone who works in the industry i want more movies with black casts.

And, i know people who struggle to get that vision. No one else is talking about the rest of African American history in movies... except slavery. And my black friends who try to sell scripts won't go anywhere... cause to put it blatant... hollywood doesn't want black movies unless it has to do with Slavery or a feel good Tyler Perry shit storm. And i find a problem with that, cause it limits black directors and writers.

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Reply #15 posted 12/14/13 1:47pm

Timmy84

Gunsnhalen said:

missfee said:

This rant may get flack but I don't really care. I'm African American and I really don't get how other AA's are bothered or "tired" of seeing movies like "The Butler" or "12 Years A Slave"...it's history, it actually did happen and though it's going to make you mad and uncomfortable, it doesn't bother me that these movies are still being made. You have to think that the real life people who lived these actual events in real life had it 10 times worse that it can ever be portrayed in Hollywood, so even if there's a glimpse of this life being created on film, I think it's a slap in the face for folks to say, "well I'm tired of seeing this type of stuff". The people who lived it never got a break. I think today's generation (no matter the race) don't know too much about history anyway and NEED to see these type of movies to understand how things used to be in order to understand and appreciate those who paved the way for us to not have to go through the things that they had to go through. You don't see folks walking around asking why movies about the Holocaust are still being made, so why is the question of the creation of movies about slavery, maids and butler's still being raised? I don't get it.

Anywho, as far as "The Butler" not getting any nods, I'm not really bothered by that. I'm happy that Idris and the Chiwetel have been nominated, but award shows are shams anyway. It's basically a Hollywood status show. I did see the movie "The Butler" and feel that Forest Whitaker gave a superior performance, Oprah on the other hand, played her best "Miss Sophia meets the 20th Century" type role. She didn't impress me much at all in the movie. I haven't seen "12 days a Slave" yet, but plan to, whether it's seeing it in the movies or when it comes out on DVD.

Now with all of that being said, I really enjoy movies along the lines of "The Best Man Holiday". That movie hands down has been the best movie I've seen in 2013. And no all of those Kevin Hart themed-starring role type movies are not within this type of league that I'm speaking of. I'd like to see more movies about life today. The reason why I loved "The Best Man Holiday" so much is because I could identify and relate to it so much.

[Edited 12/14/13 7:35am]

But, ask any random person on the street. And they will have only seen movies ABOUT slavery. When it comes to African American film... as someone who works in the industry i want more movies with black casts.

And, i know people who struggle to get that vision. No one else is talking about the rest of African American history in movies... except slavery. And my black friends who try to sell scripts won't go anywhere... cause to put it blatant... hollywood doesn't want black movies unless it has to do with Slavery or a feel good Tyler Perry shit storm. And i find a problem with that, cause it limits black directors and writers.

I also think with black folks, we're very fickle. It's refreshing that we don't think alike, some like missfee are okay with films like this because of the history that can be learned from it (and that's cool) but I always felt black history should be given a more thorough examination by Hollywood without them trying to Disney-ize it or Hollywood it too much. I wonder if the Jackie biopic was decent?

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Reply #16 posted 12/14/13 2:40pm

MoBetterBliss

missfee said:

This rant may get flack but I don't really care. I'm African American and I really don't get how other AA's are bothered or "tired" of seeing movies like "The Butler" or "12 Years A Slave"...


as a white australian i can't really say... but perhaps it's about context... if there was a black mr and mrs smith going round, along with a black midnight in paris etc (obviously i'm just talking about if the main characters were black) , maybe it would be looked at differently




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Reply #17 posted 12/14/13 8:51pm

datdude

"I wonder if the Jackie biopic was decent?" (Timmy 84)

Dude, you didn't see it?! It was decent. If we want the roster of options to be diversified, we HAVE to support! It seemed kinda....something

But my two cents is that I beg to differ (Gunshalen) that for the average person on the street only seeing "slave" movies as it relates to AA history. Rosewood, Red Tails, Ray & 42 to name a few show a broader slice of our history. It depends on WHOM you ask, but its not like Hollywood has run the subject into the ground by ANY means, quite contrary. That would be the upteenth take on the Holocaust (Valkyrie, Defiance, The Boy with the Striped Pajamas, and The Reader all came out the same year!! but i digress)

As for the Butler, it was barely above average. I wanted to blown away but I wasn't. I like David Oyelow's performance (the OTHER African Brit doing major work alongside Chiwetel and Idris). I think Forest, as has been stated brought depth and I think he should get a nod. Oprah was good too, but maybe not Oscar good. If it gets shut out I wouldn't be surprised, nor would I be at a nod for both of them. With the expanded Best Pic list to 10, lots of "obligatory" noms take place, The Butler might get one.
I think the Harriet Tubman story would be potentially stunning. As would a well done pic that captured the DuBois and Booker T debate about the best course for AA's after slavery. Lots of unmined real, history, slavery and otherwise to be explored, but WE have to write and not wait! And support and not bootleg!

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Reply #18 posted 12/14/13 11:00pm

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"I wonder if the Jackie biopic was decent?" (Timmy 84)

Dude, you didn't see it?! It was decent. If we want the roster of options to be diversified, we HAVE to support! It seemed kinda....something

But my two cents is that I beg to differ (Gunshalen) that for the average person on the street only seeing "slave" movies as it relates to AA history. Rosewood, Red Tails, Ray & 42 to name a few show a broader slice of our history. It depends on WHOM you ask, but its not like Hollywood has run the subject into the ground by ANY means, quite contrary. That would be the upteenth take on the Holocaust (Valkyrie, Defiance, The Boy with the Striped Pajamas, and The Reader all came out the same year!! but i digress)

As for the Butler, it was barely above average. I wanted to blown away but I wasn't. I like David Oyelow's performance (the OTHER African Brit doing major work alongside Chiwetel and Idris). I think Forest, as has been stated brought depth and I think he should get a nod. Oprah was good too, but maybe not Oscar good. If it gets shut out I wouldn't be surprised, nor would I be at a nod for both of them. With the expanded Best Pic list to 10, lots of "obligatory" noms take place, The Butler might get one.
I think the Harriet Tubman story would be potentially stunning. As would a well done pic that captured the DuBois and Booker T debate about the best course for AA's after slavery. Lots of unmined real, history, slavery and otherwise to be explored, but WE have to write and not wait! And support and not bootleg!

No but I plan to @ the Jackie bio. Agreed about Harriet, DuBois and Booker T.

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"The Butler" will get an Oscar nod!!! Oprah is going to be nominated for best Supporting Actress..

Yep, The Mighty O will get an Oscar nod because SAG voters choose the SAG & Oscar nominees. The Fact that The Hollywood Foreign Press shut the ENTIRE film out of the Golden Globes makes the film an Oscar under-dog. "The Butler" heavy hitting MEGA producer Harvey Weinstein IS GOD of all the Hollywood Producers and with all the fighting he had to go through with the film that Fucker will see to it that it gets Oscar nods...NOBODY messes with Big-Harvey when he backs a Film or Actor...He's the reason Meryl Streep BEAT Viola Davis a couple of years ago...

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I didn't see Fruitvale Station(another critically acclaimed Black film) but it was also shut out from the SAGS & the Globes. I hear that movie should have gotten nods for "Best Actor" & "Best Supporting actress"....it got lost in the mix but had GREAT publicity over the summer..

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Some Critics also said Jennifer Hudson was on FIRE with her portrayal of Winnie Mandela in the flick "Winnie"(now on PPV)...Critics thought the movie was just "mediocre". They praised Terrence Howard for his performance but ultimately stated that Jennifer wasn't playing with that performance....There was plenty of room in "The Best actress" category to give Jennifer a nod......

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I hope Directors of all races and from all countries continue to blanket theatres with Films featuring leading Black actors..Hollywood studios will either get on board or get left behind.."Belle" is a time-period film dropping next year about a British biracial woman's struggle in a White family and society...I saw the trailer @ the theatre and it looks pretty good. I'd even say it's Oscar-bait for 2015...The actress playing the role is Beautiful and unknown...We'll be hearing more from her when the film opens next year....It is set to open Spring of 2014 but I bet they'll push it to the Fall...

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But, yet they continue to embrace movies about slavery?

Oprah is a BILLIONAIRE. Not nominating her for a silly Golden Globe is hardly a slap in the face.

In my opinion Oprah's wealth is irrelevant. Her fame can be thrown in the mix cuz she is who she is, but her bank account is another story..We saw last week that couldn't buy a nomination from the Golden Globes.. Every year The Hollywood Foreign Press likes to align itself with The SAGS when they nominate popular & box office films. "The Butler" was popular and a Box office hit. That can't be denied even if some hated the film. The Golden Globe's foreign press voters would have saved-face had they nominated "The Butler" for "Best Picture" & "Best Actor"...Instead they shut out EVERYBODY that was involved with the critically acclaimed film which got them MAJOR publicty. The Press is having a field-day reporting "the Golden Globes snubbed Oprah" and now they're saying "how are the Comedic-Hosts gonna address it during the ceremony?"..Shutting out Oprah is an odd and PLANNED move but it's also a win-win-media situation for them leading up to the ceremony.........

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Some feel we're over-crowded with SILLY mainstream awards..We have the Silly Grammys, Silly Emmys, Silly Tony's and on & on but it's still an honor winning these mainstream awards..I'm sure Prince & Chaka are proud of the Silly GRAMMYS they received for their work...Let's not down-play winning awards..Entertainers want to win at least 1 major award for their project(s)..

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missfee said:

This rant may get flack but I don't really care. I'm African American and I really don't get how other AA's are bothered or "tired" of seeing movies like "The Butler" or "12 Years A Slave"...it's history, it actually did happen and though it's going to make you mad and uncomfortable, it doesn't bother me that these movies are still being made. You have to think that the real life people who lived these actual events in real life had it 10 times worse that it can ever be portrayed in Hollywood, so even if there's a glimpse of this life being created on film, I think it's a slap in the face for folks to say, "well I'm tired of seeing this type of stuff". The people who lived it never got a break. I think today's generation (no matter the race) don't know too much about history anyway and NEED to see these type of movies to understand how things used to be in order to understand and appreciate those who paved the way for us to not have to go through the things that they had to go through. You don't see folks walking around asking why movies about the Holocaust are still being made, so why is the question of the creation of movies about slavery, maids and butler's still being raised? I don't get it.

Anywho, as far as "The Butler" not getting any nods, I'm not really bothered by that. I'm happy that Idris and the Chiwetel have been nominated, but award shows are shams anyway. It's basically a Hollywood status show. I did see the movie "The Butler" and feel that Forest Whitaker gave a superior performance, Oprah on the other hand, played her best "Miss Sophia meets the 20th Century" type role. She didn't impress me much at all in the movie. I haven't seen "12 days a Slave" yet, but plan to, whether it's seeing it in the movies or when it comes out on DVD.

Now with all of that being said, I really enjoy movies along the lines of "The Best Man Holiday". That movie hands down has been the best movie I've seen in 2013. And no all of those Kevin Hart themed-starring role type movies are not within this type of league that I'm speaking of. I'd like to see more movies about life today. The reason why I loved "The Best Man Holiday" so much is because I could identify and relate to it so much.

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But, ask any random person on the street. And they will have only seen movies ABOUT slavery. When it comes to African American film... as someone who works in the industry i want more movies with black casts.

And, i know people who struggle to get that vision. No one else is talking about the rest of African American history in movies... except slavery. And my black friends who try to sell scripts won't go anywhere... cause to put it blatant... hollywood doesn't want black movies unless it has to do with Slavery or a feel good Tyler Perry shit storm. And i find a problem with that, cause it limits black directors and writers.

This is probably the main reason why Spike Lee goes the independent route. The problem with that is you don't even know that he has a new film out until he's done an interview or something and even by that time, the film has already left theaters. I know that "The Best Man Holiday" had a strong opening weekend and nearly topped the Thor sequel. Perhaps this will hopefully bring about a shift with those big wigs in Hollywood.

I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

"The Butler" will get an Oscar nod!!! Oprah is going to be nominated for best Supporting Actress..

Yep, The Mighty O will get an Oscar nod because SAG voters choose the SAG & Oscar nominees. The Fact that The Hollywood Foreign Press shut the ENTIRE film out of the Golden Globes makes the film an Oscar under-dog. "The Butler" heavy hitting MEGA producer Harvey Weinstein IS GOD of all the Hollywood Producers and with all the fighting he had to go through with the film that Fucker will see to it that it gets Oscar nods...NOBODY messes with Big-Harvey when he backs a Film or Actor...He's the reason Meryl Streep BEAT Viola Davis a couple of years ago...

*****************************************************************

I didn't see Fruitvale Station(another critically acclaimed Black film) but it was also shut out from the SAGS & the Globes. I hear that movie should have gotten nods for "Best Actor" & "Best Supporting actress"....it got lost in the mix but had GREAT publicity over the summer..

*********************************************************************

Some Critics also said Jennifer Hudson was on FIRE with her portrayal of Winnie Mandela in the flick "Winnie"(now on PPV)...Critics thought the movie was just "mediocre". They praised Terrence Howard for his performance but ultimately stated that Jennifer wasn't playing with that performance....There was plenty of room in "The Best actress" category to give Jennifer a nod......

***********************************************************************

I hope Directors of all races and from all countries continue to blanket theatres with Films featuring leading Black actors..Hollywood studios will either get on board or get left behind.."Belle" is a time-period film dropping next year about a British biracial woman's struggle in a White family and society...I saw the trailer @ the theatre and it looks pretty good. I'd even say it's Oscar-bait for 2015...The actress playing the role is Beautiful and unknown...We'll be hearing more from her when the film opens next year....It is set to open Spring of 2014 but I bet they'll push it to the Fall...

I am a member of SAG & was a part of the Film Society Nominee Commitee...There is another private screening of "The Butler" coming up with the almighty Denzil Washington aboard. I will be attending it!! Things are going to happen!! Don't count out "Fruitvale Station" just yet.

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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missfee said:

This rant may get flack but I don't really care. I'm African American and I really don't get how other AA's are bothered or "tired" of seeing movies like "The Butler" or "12 Years A Slave"...it's history, it actually did happen and though it's going to make you mad and uncomfortable, it doesn't bother me that these movies are still being made. You have to think that the real life people who lived these actual events in real life had it 10 times worse that it can ever be portrayed in Hollywood, so even if there's a glimpse of this life being created on film, I think it's a slap in the face for folks to say, "well I'm tired of seeing this type of stuff". The people who lived it never got a break. I think today's generation (no matter the race) don't know too much about history anyway and NEED to see these type of movies to understand how things used to be in order to understand and appreciate those who paved the way for us to not have to go through the things that they had to go through. You don't see folks walking around asking why movies about the Holocaust are still being made, so why is the question of the creation of movies about slavery, maids and butler's still being raised? I don't get it.

Anywho, as far as "The Butler" not getting any nods, I'm not really bothered by that. I'm happy that Idris and the Chiwetel have been nominated, but award shows are shams anyway. It's basically a Hollywood status show. I did see the movie "The Butler" and feel that Forest Whitaker gave a superior performance, Oprah on the other hand, played her best "Miss Sophia meets the 20th Century" type role. She didn't impress me much at all in the movie. I haven't seen "12 days a Slave" yet, but plan to, whether it's seeing it in the movies or when it comes out on DVD.

Now with all of that being said, I really enjoy movies along the lines of "The Best Man Holiday". That movie hands down has been the best movie I've seen in 2013. And no all of those Kevin Hart themed-starring role type movies are not within this type of league that I'm speaking of. I'd like to see more movies about life today. The reason why I loved "The Best Man Holiday" so much is because I could identify and relate to it so much.

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Com'on now, you mean you wouldn't relish seeing more scenes like the one between Joe Morton and Tony Goldwyn, historical or not, right wrong or indifferent. I don't necessarily go to movies for a history lesson. A good strong, in charge imagine does a body good sometimes, that's all I'm asking'. I'm tired, of the high percentage of powerless victims. All I'm sayin'.
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I am a member of SAG & was a part of the Film Society Nominee Commitee...There is another private screening of "The Butler" coming up with the almighty Denzil Washington aboard. I will be attending it!! Things are going to happen!! Don't count out "Fruitvale Station" just yet.

Can I buy a SAG membership underground or will I have a better chance Fucking somebody to get one? I find all the private screenings and award Campaigning interesting. I saw a clip of Meryl saying she hates the competition and campaigning. Mo'nique REFUSED to campaign for ALL the movie awards she was nominated for. Mo' took a stand but her performance was unbeatable. Michael Fassbender("12yrs") already said he's not campaigning for anything and he'll be out of the country the entire award season.

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Food for thought....As for "The Best Man holiday" ALL the Brothers in that movie are married/dating White women. Black women ran to that flick like BEES to sweet Honey but the Brothers in that flick wouldnt give any of them the time of day on the street........

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Food for thought....As for "The Best Man holiday" ALL the Brothers in that movie are married/dating White women. Black women ran to that flick like BEES to sweet Honey but the Brothers in that flick wouldnt give any of them the time of day on the street........

And what exactly does the race of the spouses of the male actors in the movie HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH the topic at hand? Nothing at all. I don't go to the movies thinking that the actors in the movie would or wouldn't date me, that's silly. There's plenty of black women married to men who aren't black in this world as well. How does personal preference of the girlfriend/spouse of an actor make any difference in the movie I'm going to see? disbelief

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missfee said:

This rant may get flack but I don't really care. I'm African American and I really don't get how other AA's are bothered or "tired" of seeing movies like "The Butler" or "12 Years A Slave"...it's history, it actually did happen and though it's going to make you mad and uncomfortable, it doesn't bother me that these movies are still being made. You have to think that the real life people who lived these actual events in real life had it 10 times worse that it can ever be portrayed in Hollywood, so even if there's a glimpse of this life being created on film, I think it's a slap in the face for folks to say, "well I'm tired of seeing this type of stuff". The people who lived it never got a break. I think today's generation (no matter the race) don't know too much about history anyway and NEED to see these type of movies to understand how things used to be in order to understand and appreciate those who paved the way for us to not have to go through the things that they had to go through. You don't see folks walking around asking why movies about the Holocaust are still being made, so why is the question of the creation of movies about slavery, maids and butler's still being raised? I don't get it.

Anywho, as far as "The Butler" not getting any nods, I'm not really bothered by that. I'm happy that Idris and the Chiwetel have been nominated, but award shows are shams anyway. It's basically a Hollywood status show. I did see the movie "The Butler" and feel that Forest Whitaker gave a superior performance, Oprah on the other hand, played her best "Miss Sophia meets the 20th Century" type role. She didn't impress me much at all in the movie. I haven't seen "12 days a Slave" yet, but plan to, whether it's seeing it in the movies or when it comes out on DVD.

Now with all of that being said, I really enjoy movies along the lines of "The Best Man Holiday". That movie hands down has been the best movie I've seen in 2013. And no all of those Kevin Hart themed-starring role type movies are not within this type of league that I'm speaking of. I'd like to see more movies about life today. The reason why I loved "The Best Man Holiday" so much is because I could identify and relate to it so much.

[Edited 12/14/13 7:35am]

Com'on now, you mean you wouldn't relish seeing more scenes like the one between Joe Morton and Tony Goldwyn, historical or not, right wrong or indifferent. I don't necessarily go to movies for a history lesson. A good strong, in charge imagine does a body good sometimes, that's all I'm asking'. I'm tired, of the high percentage of powerless victims. All I'm sayin'.

Sure I would, but at the same time, I'm not going to knock the historical movies either. Just sayin'.

I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #29 posted 12/16/13 5:54am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Can I buy a SAG membership underground or will I have a better chance Fucking somebody biggrin to get one? I find all the private screenings and award Campaigning interesting. I saw a clip of Meryl saying she hates the competition and campaigning. Mo'nique REFUSED to campaign for ALL the movie awards she was nominated for. Mo' took a stand but her performance was unbeatable. Michael Fassbender("12yrs") already said he's not campaigning for anything and he'll be out of the country the entire award season.

Mo'nique's method was groundbreaking!! She wouldn't make any appearances unless they paid for EVERYTHING airfare,hotel etc. She stood her ground to and still won.. biggrin

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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