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Arnold Schwarzenegger's marriage to Maria Shriver was full of secrets

Arnold Schwarzenegger can keep a secret – and he kept many from his wife of 25 years, Maria Shriver.

Appearing on “60 Minutes” Sunday to promote his new book, Total Recall: My Unbelievably True Life Story, Schwarzenegger – who referred to himself as “an expert in living in denial” – said he hid many things from his wife during their marriage. Of course one of those was his affair with the family housekeeper Mildred Baena, which produced a child and ultimately ended his marriage. During the interview, the 65-year-old actually 'fessed up to cheating on Shriver on multiple occasions and keeping other potentially life-changing secrets from her, including having open heart surgery and deciding to run for governor of California.

“That's the way I handle things,” Schwarzenegger said of keeping secrets. “And it always has worked. But, I mean it does not – it's not the best thing for people around me because I sometimes – some information I just keep to myself.”

Opening up about having heart surgery in 1997, Schwarzenegger recounted telling his doctor that he would be keeping the operation a secret from his then-pregnant wife. “I said, ‘Now here's the plan. … I'm going to have the heart surgery. You do it quietly. No one knows about it,” the “Expendables 2” star said. “We’ll do it at six in the morning, and then four days later I'm outta here and I go down to Mexico. And I'll tell Maria, I'll say, ‘Look I'm down here. Little busy. And I'm on vacation.’ And when I come back I will be tanned. No one will know. He said, ‘Arnold, are you outta your mind? … You're going to have a big scar here on the chest. What do you mean your wife is not going to see the scar?"

Schwarzenegger took a similar approach when it came to running for governor. He said he waited to tell Shriver until just a few days before he made the announcement and she was shaken by the news. “I was thinking that she would say, ‘Wow, that is amazing, welcome to the club. We finally convinced you to be a public servant, just like my entire family,’” said Schwarzenegger. “None of that. So all of a sudden it came to a grinding halt and I had to now deal with the drama.” It was his mother-in-law, Eunice Shriver, who convinced her daughter to support her husband during his run.

Shriver later gave up her career as a TV news journalist, and started campaigning for her husband. She also publicly defended him when he was accused of groping more than a dozen women earlier in his career. When asked if he regretted having her vouch for him – at that point, Schwarzenegger had already secretly impregnated their housekeeper Mildred Baena – the actor said no. “No, she vouched – she says, ‘Look. I know Arnold. He doesn't do those things that you have read. And I am his wife, I know him better than that.’ You know, end of story.”

Schwarzenegger spoke more about Baena, most notably the fact that he and the woman never had a conversation about the obvious fact that Joseph was the actor’s son. He said seven or eight years after their affair, he noticed the boy resembled him and he just started sending Baena money to support the child. “It just appeared to me there was something off, that he started looking like me,” Schwarzenegger said. “So that's when I kind of got it. It was never discussed. … I gave [money] to her and she knew what it was about.”

As we previously reported, during the interview Schwarzenegger also talked about the moment Shriver confronted him about Joseph. The day after he left office in 2011, Shriver asked to meet him with their marriage counselor. “That particular visit that you're talking about was the visit where she then said, ‘Hey, I think that Joseph is your kid. And, am I off here on this or – or not?’” he recalled. “I said, ‘You're absolutely right, and I am sorry.’ It was very painful for her. She was very disappointed.”

That wasn’t her only disappointment. Asked if it was his only affair, Schwarzenegger – who also spoke about a “hot affair” with Brigitte Nielsen – said, “No. I had others. But I mean, ah, but you know, it’s something that’s obviously between Maria and me.”

Although he knows he hurt his wife, Schwarzenegger said he’s not hung up on the failure of his marriage – or anything else. “Dwelling on it, like some people do, you know, years later, say, ‘Oh, yeah, I lost this, and I will never forget that. I'm still suffering.’ No, that's not me,” he said. “I don't suffer over anything that I've lost.”

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Reply #1 posted 10/01/12 12:34pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

Schwarzenegger took a similar approach when it came to running for governor. He said he waited to tell Shriver until just a few days before he made the announcement and she was shaken by the news. “I was thinking that she would say, ‘Wow, that is amazing, welcome to the club. We finally convinced you to be a public servant, just like my entire family,’” said Schwarzenegger. “None of that. So all of a sudden it came to a grinding halt and I had to now deal with the drama.” It was his mother-in-law, Eunice Shriver, who convinced her daughter to support her husband during his run.

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Reply #2 posted 10/01/12 3:46pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

Although he knows he hurt his wife, Schwarzenegger said he’s not hung up on the failure of his marriage – or anything else. “Dwelling on it, like some people do, you know, years later, say, ‘Oh, yeah, I lost this, and I will never forget that. I'm still suffering.’ No, that's not me,” he said. “I don't suffer over anything that I've lost.”

He's such a freaking douchebag. I get that we all get over shit we've done, but he shows absolutely no remorse, guilty or shame at all. Freaking psychopath!

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Reply #3 posted 10/01/12 3:50pm

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DysregulatedToxicity said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Although he knows he hurt his wife, Schwarzenegger said he’s not hung up on the failure of his marriage – or anything else. “Dwelling on it, like some people do, you know, years later, say, ‘Oh, yeah, I lost this, and I will never forget that. I'm still suffering.’ No, that's not me,” he said. “I don't suffer over anything that I've lost.”

He's such a freaking douchebag. I get that we all get over shit we've done, but he shows absolutely no remorse, guilty or shame at all. Freaking psychopath!

I love Arnold. I think he is The Man.

That said, it's hard to disagree with your bolded statement. He was on TV today, talking about his affairs, and when asked if this was a pattern of behavior he said, "I'm not perfect".

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Reply #4 posted 10/01/12 4:14pm

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His upcoming movie is going to sellout.

I'm still debating.

Yep, that's all I've got to say.

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Reply #5 posted 10/01/12 4:15pm

SynthiaRose

Typical Leo.

First of all, a pause for this incredibly masculine physical spectacle.

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Now, back to reality. He is incredibly self-centered and unable to grasp the amount of pain he caused his wife and children. He understands it mentally but clearly doesn't feel it deep in his soul and that's why he comes off so cavalierly. He just doesn't get it.

Arnold's goal in life is to have fun and be happy, and he clearly is not going to let devastating Maria interfere with those plans.

Yes, he is charming. He is commanding. He is lovable. And he probably can do and conquer anything he set his mind to -- but my gosh, I can't stand people who have no sense of loyalty or responsibility. I mean, there's even loyalty among theives right?

Arnie has been a personal hero of mine for a long time and I adored the Leo-Scorpio relationship between him and Maria. I feel torn about how much to despise him now. Clearly, he's done some amazing and inspiring things...

I know there's been debate today about how much Maria knew and put up with. So, her image is tattered as well. I do think women make concessions for very dynamic men. And this is a problem because if you keep negotiating your self-respect ... after a while you have nothing left. Whatever backlash Maria suffers at least she has learned that lesson.

[Edited 10/1/12 16:17pm]

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Reply #6 posted 10/01/12 4:27pm

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In Terminator 2: Judgement Day, he portrays a robot who learns to love.
In real life he just portrays a robot.

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Reply #7 posted 10/01/12 4:30pm

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Maria should be use to this, she is a Kennedy after all.

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Reply #8 posted 10/01/12 4:51pm

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SynthiaRose said:

Typical Leo.

First of all, a pause for this incredibly masculine physical spectacle.

worship

Now, back to reality. He is incredibly self-centered and unable to grasp the amount of pain he caused his wife and children. He understands it mentally but clearly doesn't feel it deep in his soul and that's why he comes off so cavalierly. He just doesn't get it.

Arnold's goal in life is to have fun and be happy, and he clearly is not going to let devastating Maria interfere with those plans.

Yes, he is charming. He is commanding. He is lovable. And he probably can do and conquer anything he set his mind to -- but my gosh, I can't stand people who have no sense of loyalty or responsibility. I mean, there's even loyalty among theives right?

Arnie has been a personal hero of mine for a long time and I adored the Leo-Scorpio relationship between him and Maria. I feel torn about how much to despise him now. Clearly, he's done some amazing and inspiring things...

I know there's been debate today about how much Maria knew and put up with. So, her image is tattered as well. I do think women make concessions for very dynamic men. And this is a problem because if you keep negotiating your self-respect ... after a while you have nothing left. Whatever backlash Maria suffers at least she has learned that lesson.

[Edited 10/1/12 16:17pm]

How is this typical of a Leo?

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Reply #9 posted 10/01/12 5:08pm

Stymie

Visionnaire said:

In Terminator 2: Judgement Day, he portrays a robot who learns to love.
In real life he just portrays a robot.


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Reply #10 posted 10/01/12 5:18pm

SynthiaRose

tinaz said:

SynthiaRose said:

Typical Leo.

First of all, a pause for this incredibly masculine physical spectacle.

worship

Now, back to reality. He is incredibly self-centered and unable to grasp the amount of pain he caused his wife and children. He understands it mentally but clearly doesn't feel it deep in his soul and that's why he comes off so cavalierly. He just doesn't get it.

Arnold's goal in life is to have fun and be happy, and he clearly is not going to let devastating Maria interfere with those plans.

Yes, he is charming. He is commanding. He is lovable. And he probably can do and conquer anything he set his mind to -- but my gosh, I can't stand people who have no sense of loyalty or responsibility. I mean, there's even loyalty among theives right?

Arnie has been a personal hero of mine for a long time and I adored the Leo-Scorpio relationship between him and Maria. I feel torn about how much to despise him now. Clearly, he's done some amazing and inspiring things...

I know there's been debate today about how much Maria knew and put up with. So, her image is tattered as well. I do think women make concessions for very dynamic men. And this is a problem because if you keep negotiating your self-respect ... after a while you have nothing left. Whatever backlash Maria suffers at least she has learned that lesson.

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How is this typical of a Leo?

Oh dear. I don't want to get into a war.

But ... from the many darling and intoxicating Leos I have come into contact with. They are extreme ladies men who find it hard to be faithful EVEN WHEN THEY ARE IN LOVE. And they don't see it as an issue either -- partially because of their enormous ego. They are larger than life and full of all this charm and dynanism that makes you forgive them (because where else are you going to find a man like that) -- but they are going to have a harem or a few dalliances. That's just my opinion from experience and communing with other women in relationships with Leos.

I love Leos, don't get my wrong. But I haven't know any to be faithful.

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Reply #11 posted 10/01/12 5:22pm

nursev

Never really liked him anyway lol His best movie was the one with Sinbad and that says alot lol

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Reply #12 posted 10/01/12 5:27pm

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SynthiaRose said:

tinaz said:

How is this typical of a Leo?

Oh dear. I don't want to get into a war.

But ... from the many darling and intoxicating Leos I have come into contact with. They are extreme ladies men who find it hard to be faithful EVEN WHEN THEY ARE IN LOVE. And they don't see it as an issue either -- partially because of their enormous ego. They are larger than life and full of all this charm and dynanism that makes you forgive them (because where else are you going to find a man like that) -- but they are going to have a harem or a few dalliances. That's just my opinion from experience and communing with other women in relationships with Leos.

I love Leos, don't get my wrong. But I haven't know any to be faithful.

lol

Im not looking for a war!

I have never heard this about Leo's so I was curious as to why you thought that... I myself am a Leo and I am nothing like you described... Maybe its Leo men?? wink

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Reply #13 posted 10/01/12 5:30pm

Stymie

tinaz said:



SynthiaRose said:




tinaz said:





How is this typical of a Leo?




Oh dear. I don't want to get into a war.



But ... from the many darling and intoxicating Leos I have come into contact with. They are extreme ladies men who find it hard to be faithful EVEN WHEN THEY ARE IN LOVE. And they don't see it as an issue either -- partially because of their enormous ego. They are larger than life and full of all this charm and dynanism that makes you forgive them (because where else are you going to find a man like that) -- but they are going to have a harem or a few dalliances. That's just my opinion from experience and communing with other women in relationships with Leos.



I love Leos, don't get my wrong. But I haven't know any to be faithful.









lol



Im not looking for a war!



I have never heard this about Leo's so I was curious as to why you thought that... I myself am a Leo and I am nothing like you described... Maybe its Leo men?? wink


I've never heard that about Leo men either.
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Reply #14 posted 10/01/12 5:31pm

Stymie

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Never really liked him anyway lol His best movie was the one with Sinbad and that says alot lol


Once I found out e was republican, it was a wrap. :lol:


I don't get women who stay in these situations.
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Reply #15 posted 10/01/12 5:34pm

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nursev said:

Never really liked him anyway lol His best movie was the one with Sinbad and that says alot lol

Once I found out e was republican, it was a wrap. lol I don't get women who stay in these situations.

Yep! That did it for me too lol Couldn't even watch his movies after finding that out lol and yeah I do believe Maria knew he was a cheater-he said he did it multiple times. Maybe when he chopped down the maid she had enough lol

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tinaz said:

SynthiaRose said:

Oh dear. I don't want to get into a war.

But ... from the many darling and intoxicating Leos I have come into contact with. They are extreme ladies men who find it hard to be faithful EVEN WHEN THEY ARE IN LOVE. And they don't see it as an issue either -- partially because of their enormous ego. They are larger than life and full of all this charm and dynanism that makes you forgive them (because where else are you going to find a man like that) -- but they are going to have a harem or a few dalliances. That's just my opinion from experience and communing with other women in relationships with Leos.

I love Leos, don't get my wrong. But I haven't know any to be faithful.

lol

Im not looking for a war!

I have never heard this about Leo's so I was curious as to why you thought that... I myself am a Leo and I am nothing like you described... Maybe its Leo men?? wink

I've never dated any Leo women and one of my ex-besties was a Leo and i have nothing but good to say about her. I don't know if it's a male thing, could be. Maybe I'm just jilted from my personal experiences with Leo men. I think Hillary Clinton might have some stories for you.

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nursev said:

Stymie said:

nursev said: Once I found out e was republican, it was a wrap. lol I don't get women who stay in these situations.

Yep! That did it for me too lol Couldn't even watch his movies after finding that out lol and yeah I do believe Maria knew he was a cheater-he said he did it multiple times. Maybe when he chopped down the maid she had enough lol

She probably had to save face since there was NO denying that child was his! lol

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Reply #18 posted 10/01/12 5:37pm

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tinaz said:

nursev said:

Yep! That did it for me too lol Couldn't even watch his movies after finding that out lol and yeah I do believe Maria knew he was a cheater-he said he did it multiple times. Maybe when he chopped down the maid she had enough lol

She probably had to save face since there was NO denying that child was his! lol

Exactly lol Kennedys ain't having it lol

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Reply #19 posted 10/01/12 5:38pm

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nursev said:

tinaz said:

She probably had to save face since there was NO denying that child was his! lol

Exactly lol Kennedys ain't having it lol

lol

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Reply #20 posted 10/01/12 5:38pm

Stymie

tinaz said:



nursev said:




Stymie said:


nursev said: Once I found out e was republican, it was a wrap. lol I don't get women who stay in these situations.


Yep! That did it for me too lol Couldn't even watch his movies after finding that out lol and yeah I do believe Maria knew he was a cheater-he said he did it multiple times. Maybe when he chopped down the maid she had enough lol





She probably had to save face since there was NO denying that child was his! lol

i agree. She knew it was about to go public and didn't want to be humiliated by letting the world know she stayed with a cheater.
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Reply #21 posted 10/01/12 5:42pm

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Stymie said:

tinaz said:

She probably had to save face since there was NO denying that child was his! lol

i agree. She knew it was about to go public and didn't want to be humiliated by letting the world know she stayed with a cheater.

Exactly!!!

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Reply #22 posted 10/01/12 5:46pm

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Stymie said:

tinaz said:

She probably had to save face since there was NO denying that child was his! lol

i agree. She knew it was about to go public and didn't want to be humiliated by letting the world know she stayed with a cheater.

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I've lost all respect for Arnie and Tom Cruise ill

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Reply #24 posted 10/01/12 6:53pm

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Maria should be use to this, she is a Kennedy after all.

That's usually the sacrifice you make when you're a known member of a hugely famous family...

That said, Arnold ain't slick, he knew what he was doing. He was selling movie tickets... he's always been about himself.

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He's a fresh and nasty man, from what I read about him.

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He's a bum and used married Maria for personal gain.... it was always about him, this is why he has no remorse. He married her because she was a Kennedy.

I am with a Leo, he's the least cheatingest man I've been with... lol that's not saying much though.

He told me he used to be a cheater but has changed his ways... shrug time will tell how true that is.

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surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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He's a bum and used married Maria for personal gain.... it was always about him, this is why he has no remorse. He married her because she was a Kennedy.

I am with a Leo, he's the least cheatingest man I've been with... lol that's not saying much though.

He told me he used to be a cheater but has changed his ways... shrug time will tell how true that is.

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And there you have it. He had political ambitions of being 'president' till he found out because he is foreign born that was a no go.

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Reply #29 posted 10/02/12 7:49am

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Arnold should learn 2 art of silence.

Then again, he is speaking out just 2 promote his book.

This guy knows the game very well.

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