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Thread started 06/19/12 10:07am

NaughtyKitty

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Twitter's Generation Gap?

I saw this on Yahoo...your thoughts on this?

‘Who is Rodney King?’ ‘Who is Dick Clark?’ ‘The Titanic was real?!?’ How death, major news events expose Twitter’s generation gap

Who are these people? McCartney, Clark, King (AP)

On Sunday, a few hours after he was found dead in his Califor...mming pool at age 47, Rodney King—a central figure in the 1992 Los Angeles riots—began trending on Twitter.

News of King's death was quickly followed by a related, if disturbing, Twitter trend: "Who is Rodney King?"

"Who is Rodney King?" Briauna Mariee, identified on Twitter as "First Queen Standing,"tweeted upon seeing King's name trending.

"Is it bad that idk who Rodney King is," Twitter user Jiggy wrote, "cause I don't."

"Who is Rodney king again? I forgot," Bougie Bre asked, adding: "#serioustweet."

"Same thing I wanna know," user Carolina Girl tweeted.

"I'm not gone lie y'all," @isingiprayilove wrote. "I don't who who ... Rodney King is."


"Wikipedia it," Bennie Cooper suggested in response.

"Don't know who Rodney King is but we share the same last name," Raymond King, a self-described "semipro gamer," wrote on Twitter. "R.I.P."

King's death was certainly not the first to baffle Twitter users. Television icon Dick Clark, author Ray Bradbury, Bee Gees singer Robin Gibb, disco queen Donna Summer, CBS News interviewer Mike Wallace, "Where The Wild Things Are" author Maurice Sendak, Beastie Boy rapper Adam Yauch and hairdresser Vidal Sassoon—all of whom died this year—ended up cycling through the microblogging service in a similar manner:

1. Death is reported
2. News of death spreads
3. Name begins trending on Twitter
4. Name preceded by "Who is" begins trending on Twitter
5. Backlash against ignorant users responsible for "Who is" trend ensues


"I get the feeling I'm going to be slaughtered for saying this," Rhys Kelly tweeted after Gibb's death. "But who is/was Robin Gibb?"

"Who/what on earth is the Bee Gees?" admitted cocoon-dweller Peter Botha asked his followers.

"Who's Robin Gibb and why is she trending?" Ant Wright wrote.

"We all have a tendency to see culture as a monolith," Scott Lamb, managing editor of Buzzfeed—a site that's become a virtual clearinghouse f...er naivety—told Yahoo News recently. "And one thing Twitter does is expose how untrue that notion is."

On April 18, Buzzfeed noted:

Shockingly enough, there is an absolutely gigantic amount of people on Twitter who don't know who someone or something is. Today it's Dick Clark.

"Yes, there are those who don't know about Clark," Jen Chung wrote on LAist.com. "But to be fair, some aren't American and Clark was an American pop culture figure. And the young aren't as familiar with him, because he's only really been on TV lately as the New Year's Rockin' Eve host—and in limited segments."

Of course, it's not just death that exposes Twitter's generational divide—anniversaries of historical news events show it as well.

In April, on the 100th anniversary of the Titanic disaster, the social news-sharing site Reddit pointed to a series of tweets from people who did not know t...c was real—and not just a 1997 Hollywood blockbuste...te Winslet.

"Wait!" user Sue D. wrote. "Titanic really happened? I thought it was just a movie."

"Guys, the Titanic was real!" @BabyDoe22 wrote. "#mindblown."

"I think the reason why bigger events exposes the divide is because people just want to participate in the conversation," Chung told Yahoo News. "They want to have a say, even though they might not have anything to say."

"People not knowing about the Titanic probably says more about gaps in the education system than gaps between generations," Lamb said. "But Dick Clark's death does expose that the cultural touch-points we take for granted aren't familiar everywhere."

[Also read: Twitter Backlash for Peop...' Was Real]

But you don't always have to die or sink a ship to blow young Twitter users minds: Sometimes, you just have to be a former Beatle who shows...he Grammys.

"Who the f--- is Paul McCartney and why is he on this?" Kristen Dewe wrote on Feb. 13 during the Grammys broadcast.

Sadly, she was not alone.

McCartney, who turned 70 on Tuesday, is one a set of celebrities who have been a constant presence for men and women of a certain age--just imagine what's going to happen on Twitter when Macca dies.

"People just coming of age now have a different group to work with," Lamb said. "There's something unsettling about realizing that your references are dated."

http://news.yahoo.com/blo...58944.html

disbelief Is the ignorance of major events and people displayed on Twitter due to a generation gap? Or is it due to just plain old ignorance? Discuss.

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Reply #1 posted 06/19/12 10:38am

Timmy84

^ It's due to plain old ignorance. I can imagine some folks back in 1984 when Jackie Wilson died would go "who the hell is Jackie Wilson?" lol They obviously wouldn't have treated Marvin Gaye the same way because at least they remembered "Sexual Healing".

But having a Twitter surely doesn't help matters. As a matter of fact, it hurts their own causes as the voices of their generation. razz

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Reply #2 posted 06/19/12 12:59pm

morningsong

I hardly even look at the trending things cause I spend most of the time trying to figure out who the heck are these folks talking about, and I'm finding it an utter waste of time.

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Reply #3 posted 06/19/12 1:17pm

NaughtyKitty

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Timmy84 said:

^ It's due to plain old ignorance. I can imagine some folks back in 1984 when Jackie Wilson died would go "who the hell is Jackie Wilson?" lol They obviously wouldn't have treated Marvin Gaye the same way because at least they remembered "Sexual Healing".

But having a Twitter surely doesn't help matters. As a matter of fact, it hurts their own causes as the voices of their generation. razz

I totally agree, its mostly ignorance. Twitter doesnt help tho--its become a worldwide platform for people to display their ignorance smh.

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Reply #4 posted 06/19/12 1:21pm

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Paul McCartney is still alive, right???

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Reply #5 posted 06/19/12 1:25pm

morningsong

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Reply #6 posted 06/19/12 1:25pm

Genesia

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KidaDynamite said:

Paul McCartney is still alive, right???

Yes - he was in the news because it was his 70th birthday.

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Reply #7 posted 06/19/12 1:33pm

morningsong

Why is some one ignorant just because they don't know all the details of things of a previous generation? Okay the titanic thing is problem, but seriously why would does that lack of info sting some folks?

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Reply #8 posted 06/19/12 1:54pm

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Genesia said:

KidaDynamite said:

Paul McCartney is still alive, right???

Yes - he was in the news because it was his 70th birthday.

Ohhhhh! Okay, thank you. lol

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Reply #9 posted 06/19/12 2:21pm

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funny how it would be easier to google "Rodney King" than it would be to tweet "who is #rodneyking #seriousquestion"

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Reply #10 posted 06/19/12 2:29pm

Timmy84

KidaDynamite said:

Genesia said:

Yes - he was in the news because it was his 70th birthday.

Ohhhhh! Okay, thank you. lol

Paul's gonna live forever. wink

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Reply #11 posted 06/19/12 7:15pm

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NDRU said:

funny how it would be easier to google "Rodney King" than it would be to tweet "who is #rodneyking #seriousquestion"

this is a generation of kids who are on their phones all day twittering, googling would be inconvenient, just like paying for music is!

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Reply #12 posted 06/19/12 7:23pm

smoothcriminal
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No one knows who Rodney King is. neutral Sad ass motherfuckas.

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Reply #13 posted 06/19/12 8:12pm

nursev

I don't fuck with Twitter or FB lol

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Reply #14 posted 06/19/12 8:15pm

728huey

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Well, the ignorance in the Twitterverse can go both ways. If Victoria Justice was trending on Twitter, with the majority of tweets saying, "OMG, Victoria Justice is so fricking hot", how many of you would know who she is? hmmm

Anyway, I can understand a little bit how younger Twitter users would not know that the sinking of the Titanic was a real event, because for all the talk of its historical significance, it was a singular event that wasn't really tied to any historical trends, unlike the Gettysburg Address and its tie-in to the American Civil War. And since many of the Twitter users weren't born or were very young children when Rodney King was beaten down by the LAPD, they wouldn't know of his significance to American history unless it was taught to them in school. And considering the state of education in America today I would not be surprised it his situation was not taught to them at all. disbelief

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Reply #15 posted 06/19/12 8:35pm

vainandy

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morningsong said:

Why is some one ignorant just because they don't know all the details of things of a previous generation? Okay the titanic thing is problem, but seriously why would does that lack of info sting some folks?

I've never seen such stupidity in all my life as I've seen these days. There was a reality show on MTV a few years ago and several people in their 20s had to live in a house and dress and live as if it were the 1970s. If they did anything that came after the 1970s, they were eliminated. The host came in one day and asked them some questions about the era. One of the questions was which country held American hostages back in 1979. All of the answers were wrong but some dumb bitch said Canada. falloff Hell, I would have thought they would have learned that in school. I know I graduated in 1985 and the Iran hostage situation was already in our US history book when I was in the eleventh grade in 1984.

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Reply #16 posted 06/19/12 9:04pm

johnart

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There's a lot of shit I didn't know when I was younger about previous generations.

Shit there's a lot of shit I still don't know.

Hey..At least they're asking. shrug

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Reply #17 posted 06/19/12 9:08pm

728huey

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vainandy said:

morningsong said:

Why is some one ignorant just because they don't know all the details of things of a previous generation? Okay the titanic thing is problem, but seriously why would does that lack of info sting some folks?

I've never seen such stupidity in all my life as I've seen these days. There was a reality show on MTV a few years ago and several people in their 20s had to live in a house and dress and live as if it were the 1970s. If they did anything that came after the 1970s, they were eliminated. The host came in one day and asked them some questions about the era. One of the questions was which country held American hostages back in 1979. All of the answers were wrong but some dumb bitch said Canada. falloff Hell, I would have thought they would have learned that in school. I know I graduated in 1985 and the Iran hostage situation was already in our US history book when I was in the eleventh grade in 1984.

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True, but if there's one thing I know about my high school classes is that if they teach history they way the diid when I was in school, which for the most part was chronological, they probably didn't learn that stuff at all. Even when I was in school. I got a really extenisve study of the American Revolution, the Civil War, and World War II, but Native Amerian history was given short shrift, the Industrial Revolution and Gilded Age was glossed over, and the entire post-WWII era was taught within the last two weeks of the school year. How can you learn the entire complexity of the Cold War, Vietnam, and Watergate in two weeks? disbelief

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Reply #18 posted 06/19/12 9:23pm

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728huey said:

vainandy said:

I've never seen such stupidity in all my life as I've seen these days. There was a reality show on MTV a few years ago and several people in their 20s had to live in a house and dress and live as if it were the 1970s. If they did anything that came after the 1970s, they were eliminated. The host came in one day and asked them some questions about the era. One of the questions was which country held American hostages back in 1979. All of the answers were wrong but some dumb bitch said Canada. falloff Hell, I would have thought they would have learned that in school. I know I graduated in 1985 and the Iran hostage situation was already in our US history book when I was in the eleventh grade in 1984.

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True, but if there's one thing I know about my high school classes is that if they teach history they way the diid when I was in school, which for the most part was chronological, they probably didn't learn that stuff at all. Even when I was in school. I got a really extenisve study of the American Revolution, the Civil War, and World War II, but Native Amerian history was given short shrift, the Industrial Revolution and Gilded Age was glossed over, and the entire post-WWII era was taught within the last two weeks of the school year. How can you learn the entire complexity of the Cold War, Vietnam, and Watergate in two weeks? disbelief

typing

True, but the first time I ever even heard of Iran was in the seventh grade when the hostage crisis occurred and since then, I have constantly heard either Iran or Iraq in the news all the way up until present day. Even if I hadn't lived through it, as much as those two countries have been in the news since then, if I were just guessing, they would be the first ones I'd pick. Either them or Afganistan. But Canada of all places! Not only is that country huge but they're also attached to us on this side of the ocean. If anything had happened between us and Canada in recent decades, folks would still be talking about it. lol

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Reply #19 posted 06/20/12 4:29am

JoeTyler

not knowing shit about the world and history is kinda "normal" when you're a child or a young teen...

but there's a problem when you're just as stupid/garrulous once you're +16 years old... sadly, at least 1/3 of the US population has this problem...

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Reply #20 posted 06/20/12 4:50am

Visionnaire

vainandy said:

728huey said:

True, but if there's one thing I know about my high school classes is that if they teach history they way the diid when I was in school, which for the most part was chronological, they probably didn't learn that stuff at all. Even when I was in school. I got a really extenisve study of the American Revolution, the Civil War, and World War II, but Native Amerian history was given short shrift, the Industrial Revolution and Gilded Age was glossed over, and the entire post-WWII era was taught within the last two weeks of the school year. How can you learn the entire complexity of the Cold War, Vietnam, and Watergate in two weeks? disbelief

typing

True, but the first time I ever even heard of Iran was in the seventh grade when the hostage crisis occurred and since then, I have constantly heard either Iran or Iraq in the news all the way up until present day. Even if I hadn't lived through it, as much as those two countries have been in the news since then, if I were just guessing, they would be the first ones I'd pick. Either them or Afganistan. But Canada of all places! Not only is that country huge but they're also attached to us on this side of the ocean. If anything had happened between us and Canada in recent decades, folks would still be talking about it. lol


Isn't everyone who lives in Canada a hostage? Or at least a Twit?
Oh wait, let me google it. It'll be easier.

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Reply #21 posted 06/20/12 4:52am

MacDaddy

I think addressing this is more important than knowing who Paul McCartney is.

From Huffington Post

Link to article

Fewer than half of young UK adults know butter comes from a dairy cow and a third do not know eggs come from hens, according to a survey.

More than a third of 16 to 23-year-olds (36%) do not know bacon comes from pigs and four in 10 (40%) failed to link milk with an image of a dairy cow, with 7% linking it to wheat, the poll of 2,000 people for charity Leaf (Linking Environment and Farming) found.

Some 41% correctly linked butter to a dairy cow, with 8% linking it to beef cattle, while 67% were able to link eggs to an image of a hen but 11% thought they came from wheat or maize.

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Reply #22 posted 06/20/12 4:58am

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Rodney King doesn't mean much to the rest of the world.

The ignorance is more to do with American expectation than worldwide historical status.

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Reply #23 posted 06/20/12 10:54am

vainandy

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Visionnaire said:

vainandy said:

True, but the first time I ever even heard of Iran was in the seventh grade when the hostage crisis occurred and since then, I have constantly heard either Iran or Iraq in the news all the way up until present day. Even if I hadn't lived through it, as much as those two countries have been in the news since then, if I were just guessing, they would be the first ones I'd pick. Either them or Afganistan. But Canada of all places! Not only is that country huge but they're also attached to us on this side of the ocean. If anything had happened between us and Canada in recent decades, folks would still be talking about it. lol


Isn't everyone who lives in Canada a hostage? Or at least a Twit?
Oh wait, let me google it. It'll be easier.

Descendents of former draft dodgers. Hell, if they still had the draft when I became army age, I would have run away too. lol

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Reply #24 posted 06/20/12 1:51pm

Azz

It's mostly ignorance.

By just clicking on the trend, they could have found out who the person trending was.

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Reply #25 posted 06/20/12 1:54pm

Azz

MacDaddy said:

I think addressing this is more important than knowing who Paul McCartney is.

From Huffington Post

Link to article

Fewer than half of young UK adults know butter comes from a dairy cow and a third do not know eggs come from hens, according to a survey.

More than a third of 16 to 23-year-olds (36%) do not know bacon comes from pigs and four in 10 (40%) failed to link milk with an image of a dairy cow, with 7% linking it to wheat, the poll of 2,000 people for charity Leaf (Linking Environment and Farming) found.

Some 41% correctly linked butter to a dairy cow, with 8% linking it to beef cattle, while 67% were able to link eggs to an image of a hen but 11% thought they came from wheat or maize.

Half of Americans can't point to America on a map.

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Reply #26 posted 06/20/12 3:26pm

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KidaDynamite said:

Paul McCartney is still alive, right???

Who is Paul McCartney?

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Reply #27 posted 06/20/12 3:50pm

vainandy

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Who is Lionel Richie? Is he Nicole Richie's daddy?

Yeah, that's him.

What does he do for a living?

He used to be in "The Jeffersons". He played George's son.

Didn't he used to also make music?

Yeah, he did that song "Super Freak".

I think I heard my mom say he did a song called "Brick House".

No, that was George Clinton.

Oh, OK. Was George the one that was getting his dick sucked in the White House?

Yeah, that was him.

Well, who was the girl?

Some girl named Monica. She used to be an R&B singer in the 90s.

Oh, OK

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Reply #28 posted 06/20/12 3:59pm

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Just a few months ago when Paul was performing at I think the Grammy's twitter blew with people asking who that old white guy was.

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Reply #29 posted 06/20/12 4:06pm

Timmy84

lazycrockett said:

Just a few months ago when Paul was performing at I think the Grammy's twitter blew with people asking who that old white guy was.

They probably said the same thing when Mick Jagger was on the show last year.

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