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Thread started 05/30/12 2:13pm

PurpleJedi

iPhone or Droid?

My company just ditched the Blackberry in favor of Droids. (Long story...Sprint pissed off the Comptroller)

So I am now getting used to that stupid little green guy. lol

I was really hoping they'd get us iPhones (rumors were swirling about that) but in the end I got a Pantech smartphone.

shrug

Beggars can't be choosing and I am just glad that I don't have to pay for a cell.

BUT...based on how much I loved my iPod...I still wish we'd gotten iPhones.

hrmph

Anyone out there ever had both?

Are they really such a big deal?

Am I missing out on something?

WHICH DO YOU PREFER question

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Reply #1 posted 05/30/12 2:17pm

NDRU

my boss dumped an iphone for a droid, but she's insane...

Reply #2 posted 05/30/12 2:18pm

PurpleJedi

NDRU said:

my boss dumped an iphone for a droid, but she's insane...

lol

So you prefer the iPhone I presume?

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Reply #3 posted 05/30/12 2:29pm

NDRU

PurpleJedi said:

NDRU said:

my boss dumped an iphone for a droid, but she's insane...

lol

So you prefer the iPhone I presume?

I just got an iphone and I really like it.

I have never used a droid, I'm just saying she's crazy!

Reply #4 posted 05/30/12 2:39pm

toots

sorry bu t ive had my droid since the first droid came out(now i have the droid X 2)...i HATE iphones with a passion... u can only download ur music on itunes ..pfftt.. droid can download music on any type of music file...on any program... i have various programs to dl music files with.... works fine no issues....it isn t no harder to use then a iphone... its all what u aka the person prefers.. btw i HATE/DISPISE itunes barf ( and yes i tried itunes and yes i dont like it still)

[Edited 5/30/12 14:43pm]

Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
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Reply #5 posted 05/30/12 2:52pm

PurpleJedi

toots said:

sorry bu t ive had my droid since the first droid came out(now i have the droid X 2)...i HATE iphones with a passion... u can only download ur music on itunes ..pfftt.. droid can download music on any type of music file...on any program... i have various programs to dl music files with.... works fine no issues....it isn t no harder to use then a iphone... its all what u aka the person prefers.. btw i HATE/DISPISE itunes barf ( and yes i tried itunes and yes i dont like it still)

[Edited 5/30/12 14:43pm]

I haven't downloaded any music onto my new phone yet.

However, based on my limited use with my iPod, I did find iTunes a little bit of a bitch to work with.

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Reply #6 posted 05/30/12 3:01pm

missfee

Team iPhone here. nod

Cause I'm fabulous and I live a fabulous life. batting eyes
Reply #7 posted 05/30/12 3:15pm

Genesia

I was never so happy to get rid of a phone as I was when I dumped my Droid. That thing sucked - and I even got a Verizon rep to admit as much when I bought my iPhone.

I mean if he did have sex he would break every rule Jehova's have regarding premarital sex so Prince is really just friends with them all anyway.
Reply #8 posted 05/30/12 3:26pm

veronikka

iphone! so easy to use biggrin

Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul
Reply #9 posted 05/30/12 3:26pm

PurpleJedi

missfee said:

Team iPhone here. nod

How u like iTunes?

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Reply #10 posted 05/30/12 3:27pm

PurpleJedi

Genesia said:

I was never so happy to get rid of a phone as I was when I dumped my Droid. That thing sucked - and I even got a Verizon rep to admit as much when I bought my iPhone.

lol

...he was clearly team iPhone as well...

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Reply #11 posted 05/30/12 3:28pm

PurpleJedi

veronikka said:

iphone! so easy to use biggrin

I played around with the iPhones and iPads at the Apple store recently, and yeah they look much easier to use than the thing I have right now.

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Reply #12 posted 05/30/12 3:30pm

NDRU

again, I haven't used a droid, but man the screen on the new iphone is incredible

Reply #13 posted 05/30/12 3:35pm

missfee

PurpleJedi said:

missfee said:

Team iPhone here. nod

How u like iTunes?

Easy to use. I remember before I got the iPhone, I was team Blackberry and kept hearing people say how difficult iTunes was and yadda yadda yadda. Not true. When I got the iPhone, I was wondering why I hadn't gotten one sooner. The iPhone is just way too easy and way too convenient to use. nod Trust me. I have about 600+ songs on my phone and can play them through the radio in my car as well. So I'm loving it. The camera is THE BEST camera I have ever had on a phone. When the new iPhone 5 comes out, I'll be definitely purchasing that. nod

Cause I'm fabulous and I live a fabulous life. batting eyes
Reply #14 posted 05/30/12 6:09pm

JustErin

My personal phone is an android and I'm happy with it. Work uses iPhones and I get mine in a few weeks. I've only ever played with my bf's iPhone but I liked it as well.

Reply #15 posted 05/30/12 6:13pm

Stymie

Hate Droid. Love my new iPhone. It is so easy to use and much faster than my Droid was.
Reply #16 posted 05/30/12 6:18pm

shorttrini

I am a "mac head", in fact, I own to macs. That being said, I have a Droid and I love it. It's cheaper than an Iphone, has flash,(which the Iphone does not have) and I do pretty much the same on it, as I would be able to do, on an Iphone. I am due for an upgrade on my Droid, in July and I am getting the HTC S1. Can't wait.

"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
Reply #17 posted 05/30/12 6:25pm

Stymie

shorttrini said:

I am a "mac head", in fact, I own to macs. That being said, I have a Droid and I love it. It's cheaper than an Iphone, has flash,(which the Iphone does not have) and I do pretty much the same on it, as I would be able to do, on an Iphone. I am due for an upgrade on my Droid, in July and I am getting the HTC S1. Can't wait.


I had an HTC Evo that I loved at first but with every update the Droid got slower and slower.

My iPhone was two hundred dollars cheaper than my Evo was.
Reply #18 posted 05/30/12 6:37pm

shorttrini

Stymie said:

shorttrini said:

I am a "mac head", in fact, I own to macs. That being said, I have a Droid and I love it. It's cheaper than an Iphone, has flash,(which the Iphone does not have) and I do pretty much the same on it, as I would be able to do, on an Iphone. I am due for an upgrade on my Droid, in July and I am getting the HTC S1. Can't wait.

I had an HTC Evo that I loved at first but with every update the Droid got slower and slower. My iPhone was two hundred dollars cheaper than my Evo was.

See that's the thing. I never download, every update. I just dowload the one's that have to do with the system itself. As for the price, since I am due for an upgrade, I wll be getting my phone for $200 cheaper.

"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
Reply #19 posted 05/30/12 7:12pm

mwu

Droid definitly.

Bigger screen, lower price, removable battery, external micro sd.

As well, better design, honestly, I m tired of these apple soap bar...

I love my droid, my friends are sending me mp3 directly to my gmail, and I can download and listen in 2 clicks.

I can not stand this snobish apple mind... And it is too expensive for what it is, honestly.

Reply #20 posted 05/30/12 8:02pm

DiminutiveRocker

Consider the rights of others before your own feelings, and the feelings of others before your own rights.
~ John Wooden
Reply #21 posted 05/30/12 8:14pm

imago

iPhone, but wait for the five to be released (shortly).

Reply #22 posted 05/30/12 8:37pm

Militant

moderator

Android ftw. The Samsung Galaxy S2 shits all over the iPhone 4S, and I'm drooling over the Galaxy S3 which was released today.... it is beautiful.

Android is a far better operating system than iOS. Apple is about restriction - a dictatorship. Unless you jailbreak an iOS device, you are limited in what you can do.

With Android, you have choice. A choice of devices, form factors, price ranges, sizes etc. Phones with landscape keyboards, phones with portrait keyboards, phones that are touch screen only.

Apple have been playing catch-up for at least 18 months now, and there's still things missing on the iPhone that Android has had for YEARS.

Reply #23 posted 05/30/12 8:38pm

imago

Militant said:

Android ftw. The Samsung Galaxy S2 shits all over the iPhone 4S, and I'm drooling over the Galaxy S3 which was released today.... it is beautiful.

Android is a far better operating system than iOS. Apple is about restriction - a dictatorship. Unless you jailbreak an iOS device, you are limited in what you can do.

With Android, you have choice. A choice of devices, form factors, price ranges, sizes etc. Phones with landscape keyboards, phones with portrait keyboards, phones that are touch screen only.

Apple have been playing catch-up for at least 18 months now, and there's still things missing on the iPhone that Android has had for YEARS.

Yeah, PJ, don't do it.

Wait for the iphone 5. You won't be sorry.

Reply #24 posted 05/30/12 9:24pm

PurpleJedi

I'm going to give the Android some time. Play with it & customize it (or at least as much as my company will allow).

Then I can decide if I even NEED a personal phone before contemplating spending $$$ on an iPhone just because I WANT one.

nod

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Reply #25 posted 05/30/12 10:14pm

gollygirl

iPhone here -

love it - way cool.

Also have Mac Book Pro & iPad -

and have Windows 7 PC at home too (just to do the things Apple cant).

but iPhone easy to use - it suits me anyway. I would use no other phone.

itunes have no issues with it - all my things sync with no problems over iPhone/MB Pro/iPad.

I have seen Prince live & now I am totally "Purple-ised"
Reply #26 posted 05/31/12 4:49am

Stymie

Militant said:

Android ftw. The Samsung Galaxy S2 shits all over the iPhone 4S, and I'm drooling over the Galaxy S3 which was released today.... it is beautiful.

Android is a far better operating system than iOS. Apple is about restriction - a dictatorship. Unless you jailbreak an iOS device, you are limited in what you can do.

With Android, you have choice. A choice of devices, form factors, price ranges, sizes etc. Phones with landscape keyboards, phones with portrait keyboards, phones that are touch screen only.

Apple have been playing catch-up for at least 18 months now, and there's still things missing on the iPhone that Android has had for YEARS.

More power to you then. I had a Droid for two years and hated it.

Reply #27 posted 05/31/12 5:13am

BobGeorge909

It seems that android has more options out of the box than OSi. Many of the things my droid just does, my friend had to jailbreak his iPhone to be able to do it. It appears this doesn't matter to some.. I get that. I love Apple and there products are wonderful. They all work optimaly when used in tandem with other Apple products and they're usually 'spensive as shit. When one has the budget for that I dont blame them for using it, they're like braids and work wonderfully intertwined with themselves. AppleTV tied to an iPad, coupled w/ an iMac, with an iPhone on top and surrounded by an iCloud...that's scenario is close to nirvana and is as seamless as a floating soap bubble.
[Insert witticism here]
Reply #28 posted 05/31/12 6:35am

Lisa10

I'll be due to get a new phone in a couple of months. I was totally geared up to get an iphone... until I read all the reviews for the Galaxy S3. I think i'll be getting that now instead.

Reply #29 posted 05/31/12 7:10am

Genesia

Militant said:

Android ftw. The Samsung Galaxy S2 shits all over the iPhone 4S, and I'm drooling over the Galaxy S3 which was released today.... it is beautiful.

Android is a far better operating system than iOS. Apple is about restriction - a dictatorship. Unless you jailbreak an iOS device, you are limited in what you can do.

With Android, you have choice. A choice of devices, form factors, price ranges, sizes etc. Phones with landscape keyboards, phones with portrait keyboards, phones that are touch screen only.

Apple have been playing catch-up for at least 18 months now, and there's still things missing on the iPhone that Android has had for YEARS.

Yeah, you have freedom, all right.

The freedom to have the Android OS on a sucky phone that Google has no interest in or support for since they already got their money from HTC or Samsung or whatever "piece of shit-maker" they sold their OS to.

The freedom to be totally fucked over when Google issues a system update that suddenly makes the OS too big to run properly on the phone you have. But of course, they won't warn you that you're about to be fucked, because that might be perceived as a weakness, in addition to the total we-don't-care-cuz-we-already-got-our-money attitude mentioned earlier.

The freedom to have buggy, piece-of-shit apps that you pay for without recourse when they turn out to be buggy pieces of shit.

The freedom to need app-killer apps because the Google OS likes to launch battery-sucking apps on its own - whether you want them to run or not.

The freedom to need file-finder apps because everything is hidden, and therefore impossible to find, on the damn phone.

Yeah, boy - I really miss all that since I got my iPhone.

I mean if he did have sex he would break every rule Jehova's have regarding premarital sex so Prince is really just friends with them all anyway.
Reply #30 posted 05/31/12 7:13am

Stymie

Genesia said:

Militant said:

Android ftw. The Samsung Galaxy S2 shits all over the iPhone 4S, and I'm drooling over the Galaxy S3 which was released today.... it is beautiful.

Android is a far better operating system than iOS. Apple is about restriction - a dictatorship. Unless you jailbreak an iOS device, you are limited in what you can do.

With Android, you have choice. A choice of devices, form factors, price ranges, sizes etc. Phones with landscape keyboards, phones with portrait keyboards, phones that are touch screen only.

Apple have been playing catch-up for at least 18 months now, and there's still things missing on the iPhone that Android has had for YEARS.

Yeah, you have freedom, all right.

The freedom to have the Android OS on a sucky phone that Google has no interest in or support for since they already got their money from HTC or Samsung or whatever "piece of shit-maker" they sold their OS to.

The freedom to be totally fucked over when Google issues a system update that suddenly makes the OS too big to run properly on the phone you have. But of course, they won't warn you that you're about to be fucked, because that might be perceived as a weakness, in addition to the total we-don't-care-cuz-we-already-got-our-money attitude mentioned earlier.

The freedom to have buggy, piece-of-shit apps that you pay for without recourse when they turn out to be buggy pieces of shit.

The freedom to need app-killer apps because the Google OS likes to launch battery-sucking apps on its own - whether you want them to run or not.

The freedom to need file-finder apps because everything is hidden, and therefore impossible to find, on the damn phone.

Yeah, boy - I really miss all that since I got my iPhone.

highfive

To each his own but Droid was more trouble than it was worth to me.

Reply #31 posted 05/31/12 7:25am

PurpleJedi

Lisa10 said:

I'll be due to get a new phone in a couple of months. I was totally geared up to get an iphone... until I read all the reviews for the Galaxy S3. I think i'll be getting that now instead.

Is that the one they're biling as the "iPhone killer"?

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Reply #32 posted 05/31/12 7:27am

PurpleJedi

Genesia said:

Militant said:

Android ftw. The Samsung Galaxy S2 shits all over the iPhone 4S, and I'm drooling over the Galaxy S3 which was released today.... it is beautiful.

Android is a far better operating system than iOS. Apple is about restriction - a dictatorship. Unless you jailbreak an iOS device, you are limited in what you can do.

With Android, you have choice. A choice of devices, form factors, price ranges, sizes etc. Phones with landscape keyboards, phones with portrait keyboards, phones that are touch screen only.

Apple have been playing catch-up for at least 18 months now, and there's still things missing on the iPhone that Android has had for YEARS.

Yeah, you have freedom, all right.

The freedom to have the Android OS on a sucky phone that Google has no interest in or support for since they already got their money from HTC or Samsung or whatever "piece of shit-maker" they sold their OS to.

The freedom to be totally fucked over when Google issues a system update that suddenly makes the OS too big to run properly on the phone you have. But of course, they won't warn you that you're about to be fucked, because that might be perceived as a weakness, in addition to the total we-don't-care-cuz-we-already-got-our-money attitude mentioned earlier.

The freedom to have buggy, piece-of-shit apps that you pay for without recourse when they turn out to be buggy pieces of shit.

The freedom to need app-killer apps because the Google OS likes to launch battery-sucking apps on its own - whether you want them to run or not.

The freedom to need file-finder apps because everything is hidden, and therefore impossible to find, on the damn phone.

Yeah, boy - I really miss all that since I got my iPhone.

lol

Regarding the file-finder bit...I find that navigating through this thing (the Android phone) is annoying. I liked my old Blackberry better in that regard.

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Reply #33 posted 05/31/12 8:06am

Stymie

PurpleJedi said:

Genesia said:

Yeah, you have freedom, all right.

The freedom to have the Android OS on a sucky phone that Google has no interest in or support for since they already got their money from HTC or Samsung or whatever "piece of shit-maker" they sold their OS to.

The freedom to be totally fucked over when Google issues a system update that suddenly makes the OS too big to run properly on the phone you have. But of course, they won't warn you that you're about to be fucked, because that might be perceived as a weakness, in addition to the total we-don't-care-cuz-we-already-got-our-money attitude mentioned earlier.

The freedom to have buggy, piece-of-shit apps that you pay for without recourse when they turn out to be buggy pieces of shit.

The freedom to need app-killer apps because the Google OS likes to launch battery-sucking apps on its own - whether you want them to run or not.

The freedom to need file-finder apps because everything is hidden, and therefore impossible to find, on the damn phone.

Yeah, boy - I really miss all that since I got my iPhone.

lol

Regarding the file-finder bit...I find that navigating through this thing (the Android phone) is annoying. I liked my old Blackberry better in that regard.

nod I liked Blackberry better than Droid, too.

Reply #34 posted 05/31/12 8:28am

PurpleJedi

Stymie said:

PurpleJedi said:

lol

Regarding the file-finder bit...I find that navigating through this thing (the Android phone) is annoying. I liked my old Blackberry better in that regard.

nod I liked Blackberry better than Droid, too.

highfive

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Reply #35 posted 05/31/12 9:29am

BobGeorge909

Genesia said:

 



Militant said:


Android ftw. The Samsung Galaxy S2 shits all over the iPhone 4S, and I'm drooling over the Galaxy S3 which was released today.... it is beautiful. 


 



 


Android is a far better operating system than iOS. Apple is about restriction - a dictatorship. Unless you jailbreak an iOS device, you are limited in what you can do. 


 


With Android, you have choice. A choice of devices, form factors, price ranges, sizes etc. Phones with landscape keyboards, phones with portrait keyboards, phones that are touch screen only. 


 


Apple have been playing catch-up for at least 18 months now, and there's still things missing on the iPhone that Android has had for YEARS. 


 



 


Yeah, you have freedom, all right.


 


The freedom to have the Android OS on a sucky phone that Google has no interest in or support for since they already got their money from HTC or Samsung or whatever "piece of shit-maker" they sold their OS to.


 


The freedom to be totally fucked over when Google issues a system update that suddenly makes the OS too big to run properly on the phone you have. But of course, they won't warn you that you're about to be fucked, because that might be perceived as a weakness, in addition to the total we-don't-care-cuz-we-already-got-our-money attitude mentioned earlier.


 


The freedom to have buggy, piece-of-shit apps that you pay for without recourse when they turn out to be buggy pieces of shit.


 


The freedom to need app-killer apps because the Google OS likes to launch battery-sucking apps on its own - whether you want them to run or not.


 


The freedom to need file-finder apps because everything is hidden, and therefore impossible to find, on the damn phone.


 


Yeah, boy - I really miss all that since I got my iPhone. 



Yeah...the file finding thing is awkward. I don't like that. But I've only paid for one app...a music player for the equalizer function...not buggy at all...any other app was free. If one has paid for an app on Android, they're a fool....maybe not a fool...but there's not much need to pay for apps.
[Insert witticism here]
Reply #36 posted 05/31/12 9:57am

JustErin

I've not paid for any apps and not had any issues with my Galaxy S. I have more issues with my piece of shit service provider, Bell.

I will probably pick up the new S3 in a few months.
Reply #37 posted 05/31/12 11:00am

BarbieJones

I have the Droid Razr.





It's easy to use; I org with it.
Hello!
Reply #38 posted 05/31/12 11:49am

Militant

moderator

Lisa10 said:

I'll be due to get a new phone in a couple of months. I was totally geared up to get an iphone... until I read all the reviews for the Galaxy S3. I think i'll be getting that now instead.

Good call.


Genesia said:

Militant said:

Android ftw. The Samsung Galaxy S2 shits all over the iPhone 4S, and I'm drooling over the Galaxy S3 which was released today.... it is beautiful.

Android is a far better operating system than iOS. Apple is about restriction - a dictatorship. Unless you jailbreak an iOS device, you are limited in what you can do.

With Android, you have choice. A choice of devices, form factors, price ranges, sizes etc. Phones with landscape keyboards, phones with portrait keyboards, phones that are touch screen only.

Apple have been playing catch-up for at least 18 months now, and there's still things missing on the iPhone that Android has had for YEARS.

Yeah, you have freedom, all right.

The freedom to have the Android OS on a sucky phone that Google has no interest in or support for since they already got their money from HTC or Samsung or whatever "piece of shit-maker" they sold their OS to.

The freedom to be totally fucked over when Google issues a system update that suddenly makes the OS too big to run properly on the phone you have. But of course, they won't warn you that you're about to be fucked, because that might be perceived as a weakness, in addition to the total we-don't-care-cuz-we-already-got-our-money attitude mentioned earlier.

The freedom to have buggy, piece-of-shit apps that you pay for without recourse when they turn out to be buggy pieces of shit.

The freedom to need app-killer apps because the Google OS likes to launch battery-sucking apps on its own - whether you want them to run or not.

The freedom to need file-finder apps because everything is hidden, and therefore impossible to find, on the damn phone.

Yeah, boy - I really miss all that since I got my iPhone.

I've owned FOUR Android phones to date - including the G1 which was the very first one. I've never any of these issues you speak of. Methinks you made a bad choice with a budget phone (don't expect premium quality from a midrange) and also probably picked a devices heavily altered by the cellphone carrier.

Also, you appear to have NO understanding how Android works. First of all, it's an open-source OS so Google don't "sell" it to anyone as you incorrectly claimed. Any manufacturer is free to take the code and use it on their device. Secondly, no, Google don't offer support for things other companies do. That's why their have their own "Nexus" line of products - the latest being the Galaxy Nexus. These get updates and support DIRECTLY from Google. You want full Google support, buy a Nexus device.

Google don't push out updates either to non-Nexus devices. The carriers do. If your phone got screwed by a bad update, it's Verizon's fault. Blame them, not Google. Again, if you have a problem with what carriers do, you buy a Nexus. I've never used a buggy app - and you think there aren't buggy piece of shit apps for iOS too? LOL

If you think Android requires task managers to kill apps, you know nothing about it. Task Killers are useless and do more harm that good - http://geekfor.me/faq/you...h-android/

There's been a native file manager app since Android 3.0. Compare to that iOS 5 which still doesn't have widgets, effective multitasking, live wallpapers, etc.

You were incorrect on every single point you made, so don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

Reply #39 posted 05/31/12 11:53am

Militant

moderator

BarbieJones said:

I have the Droid Razr. It's easy to use; I org with it.

Ooohh!!! I like the look of that. Moto have been making some great products. The design is similar to my Xoom 2 Media Edition, which I sold my Nook Color in order to get.

Reply #40 posted 05/31/12 2:16pm

Lisa10

PurpleJedi said:

Lisa10 said:

I'll be due to get a new phone in a couple of months. I was totally geared up to get an iphone... until I read all the reviews for the Galaxy S3. I think i'll be getting that now instead.

Is that the one they're biling as the "iPhone killer"?

Yeah, I guess it is. The reviewers have been all creamy over the new galaxy. I haven't seen a single review that shows a preference to the iphone over this.

Reply #41 posted 05/31/12 2:40pm

DiminutiveRocker

Lisa10 said:

PurpleJedi said:

Is that the one they're biling as the "iPhone killer"?

Yeah, I guess it is. The reviewers have been all creamy over the new galaxy. I haven't seen a single review that shows a preference to the iphone over this.

I am on my second iPhone and waiting the 5 to come out. I find it easy to use - very intuitive and the battery charge and speed are great.

All smart phone are pretty competitive now-a-days, but being so pleased and having little to no complaints about my iPhone will keep me in the Apple zone for a while (I prefer Apple as my home computer and LOVE my iPad as well)

Consider the rights of others before your own feelings, and the feelings of others before your own rights.
~ John Wooden
Reply #42 posted 05/31/12 2:48pm

Stymie

DiminutiveRocker said:

Lisa10 said:

Yeah, I guess it is. The reviewers have been all creamy over the new galaxy. I haven't seen a single review that shows a preference to the iphone over this.

I am on my second iPhone and waiting the 5 to come out. I find it easy to use - very intuitive and the battery charge and speed are great.

All smart phone are pretty competitive now-a-days, but being so pleased and having little to no complaints about my iPhone will keep me in the Apple zone for a while (I prefer Apple as my home computer and LOVE my iPad as well)

I love my iPad too especially since I can load Word and Excel on it. love

Reply #43 posted 05/31/12 11:39pm

NDRU

So one thing I was wondering about the iphone.

I was travelling with my brother and he spoke his destination into the phone and got turn by turn voice directions. I can't figure out how to do this. I can ask Siri, and she will give me a map & written directions but the bitch will not say "turn right at X Street"

And I don't think I can talk to mapquest. I don't want to be typing and reading while I drive.

Reply #44 posted 05/31/12 11:44pm

ZombieKitten

NDRU said:

So one thing I was wondering about the iphone.

I was travelling with my brother and he spoke his destination into the phone and got turn by turn voice directions. I can't figure out how to do this. I can ask Siri, and she will give me a map & written directions but the bitch will not say "turn right at X Street"

And I don't think I can talk to mapquest. I don't want to be typing and reading while I drive.

you probably need a GPS app to do this nod

I'm one of the fires burning in my favorite type of compliment
Reply #45 posted 06/01/12 12:00am

NDRU

ZombieKitten said:

 



NDRU said:


So one thing I was wondering about the iphone.


 


I was travelling with my brother and he spoke his destination into the phone and got turn by turn voice directions. I can't figure out how to do this. I can ask Siri, and she will give me a map & written directions but the bitch will not say "turn right at X Street"


 


And I don't think I can talk to mapquest. I don't want to be typing and reading while I drive.



you probably need a GPS app to do this nod


It looks like they charge monthly fees! Btw orging sucks on the iPhone
Reply #46 posted 06/01/12 12:08am

ZombieKitten

NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said:

you probably need a GPS app to do this nod

It looks like they charge monthly fees! Btw orging sucks on the iPhone

that's weird!

do you ever use the iphone reader? it's pretty nice, I use it when reading long posts that don't have paragraph returns. You should read my concert reviews with it on your iphone - go on, try it out!

I'm one of the fires burning in my favorite type of compliment
Reply #47 posted 06/01/12 4:26am

shorttrini

I use the GPS program on my Droid. It's free and includes, turn by turn nagivation with voice....

"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
Reply #48 posted 06/01/12 7:41am

Militant

moderator

Yeah, Android has has built in GPS navigation for free for about 2 years now.

When they launched it, Garmin and Tom Tom's stock dropped by about 20% lol lol

Apple won't have a competing solution to this for at least two years.

Reply #49 posted 06/01/12 7:45am

Militant

moderator

This video tells you all you need to know.

Reply #50 posted 06/01/12 9:55pm

NDRU

ZombieKitten said:

NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said: It looks like they charge monthly fees! Btw orging sucks on the iPhone

that's weird!

do you ever use the iphone reader? it's pretty nice, I use it when reading long posts that don't have paragraph returns. You should read my concert reviews with it on your iphone - go on, try it out!

I'll have to look at that!

Reply #51 posted 06/01/12 9:56pm

NDRU

Militant said:

Yeah, Android has has built in GPS navigation for free for about 2 years now.

When they launched it, Garmin and Tom Tom's stock dropped by about 20% lol lol

Apple won't have a competing solution to this for at least two years.

Looks like Apple's map thingie doesn't do it, but a free MapQuest app did.

Reply #52 posted 06/02/12 2:20am

Ellie

I just recently got the HTC Sensation XE upgrading from an old Blackberry and I'm very happy with it.

I already have an iPad, iMac and an iPod Touch. The expense of the iPhone contracts just isn't worth it. My other devices do me perfectly well for all the fun apps and games that might not be available outside of iTunes. There's no way I could justify doubling what I spend on my contract just to have an iPhone.

Plus EVERYONE I know who has an iPhone which is a lot of people has the following problems:

1. It takes about 5-10 attempts to call them before they will be able to to hear their phone if outside before they will answer as the volume of the ring is so low. In fact I called my best friend over 25 times when he was late for an important appointment once and when he finally turned up, his phone only had 3 missed calls.

2. They spend so long playing around with the apps/games/internet that when they actually need to use the device as a phone in an emergency at the end of the day, the battery is dead.


3. Siri doesn't work for anyone with a hint of an accent, although I find this amusing biggrin

[Edited 6/2/12 2:24am]

Reply #53 posted 06/02/12 3:04am

nd33

mwu said:

Droid definitly.

Bigger screen, lower price, removable battery, external micro sd.

As well, better design, honestly, I m tired of these apple soap bar...

I love my droid, my friends are sending me mp3 directly to my gmail, and I can download and listen in 2 clicks.

I can not stand this snobish apple mind... And it is too expensive for what it is, honestly.

Had my iphone for 3 years now. Could listen to mp3s emailed to me since day 1. Needed to as it was part of my job.

Love my phone BTW. Only phone I ever had which I could say was everything I ever needed and more.

Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss...
Reply #54 posted 06/02/12 3:05am

nd33

Militant said:

Yeah, Android has has built in GPS navigation for free for about 2 years now.

When they launched it, Garmin and Tom Tom's stock dropped by about 20% lol lol

Apple won't have a competing solution to this for at least two years.

Will see what Apples new mapping system entails which is being released within next couple of months alongside the iphone 5 if my ears are correct...

Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss...
Reply #55 posted 06/02/12 6:56pm

Militant

moderator

nd33 said:

Militant said:

Yeah, Android has has built in GPS navigation for free for about 2 years now.

When they launched it, Garmin and Tom Tom's stock dropped by about 20% lol lol

Apple won't have a competing solution to this for at least two years.

Will see what Apples new mapping system entails which is being released within next couple of months alongside the iphone 5 if my ears are correct...

Yes, they have purchased a few small-fish mapping companies and are hastily cobbling them together in a pathetic effort to remove Google services from their device.

Not a hope in hell in matching the years of development and information that Google Maps has..... hell, even trying to compete with Street View alone would take Apple at least three years from now.

If you're lucky, Google Maps should remain available in the App Store for people who would like to continue using the world's best mapping service.

Reply #56 posted 06/03/12 3:39am

alexnvrmnd777

Militant said:

BarbieJones said:

I have the Droid Razr. It's easy to use; I org with it.

Ooohh!!! I like the look of that. Moto have been making some great products. The design is similar to my Xoom 2 Media Edition, which I sold my Nook Color in order to get.

What does the Xoom 2 Media Edition do that the Xoom Wi-Fi doesn't? Just curious as to what type of improvements, if any, have been made.

Reply #57 posted 06/04/12 1:09pm

DiminutiveRocker

double post

[Edited 6/4/12 13:11pm]

Consider the rights of others before your own feelings, and the feelings of others before your own rights.
~ John Wooden
Reply #58 posted 06/04/12 1:10pm

DiminutiveRocker

I use the navigation app that came with my iPhone - never had a problem with it - even used it in Italy - worked just fine.

All the people I know who have droids are constantly charging them and have battery issues. The battery life on both the iPhone and iPad is awesome. of course I take pictures and ocassional video with my iPhone - but it is primarily a phone for me, and so I find that I have plenty of battery life for everything I need - calls, texting, et al.

I am perfectly happy with my iPhone and will continue to upgrade and buy them in the future.

Consider the rights of others before your own feelings, and the feelings of others before your own rights.
~ John Wooden
Reply #59 posted 06/04/12 1:19pm

NDRU

DiminutiveRocker said:

I use the navigation app that came with my iPhone - never had a problem with it - even used it in Italy - worked just fine.

But it doesn't give voice directions, does it? I don't want to be reading directions while I drive.

THe mapquest app does it, but the maps are not nearly as good as google maps.

Reply #60 posted 06/04/12 1:36pm

shorttrini

DiminutiveRocker said:

I use the navigation app that came with my iPhone - never had a problem with it - even used it in Italy - worked just fine.

All the people I know who have droids are constantly charging them and have battery issues. The battery life on both the iPhone and iPad is awesome. of course I take pictures and ocassional video with my iPhone - but it is primarily a phone for me, and so I find that I have plenty of battery life for everything I need - calls, texting, et al.

I am perfectly happy with my iPhone and will continue to upgrade and buy them in the future.

The reason why people are having trouble with battery life, due to the fact that very few, know how to condition their battery, so that it get used to being used. Most, will just use the battery right out of the box, instead of just letting it drain all the way down and then charge it fully. I have never had an issue with battery life, with both of my droids. Both, lasted a day and a half.

"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
Reply #61 posted 06/04/12 9:31pm

DiminutiveRocker

shorttrini said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

I use the navigation app that came with my iPhone - never had a problem with it - even used it in Italy - worked just fine.

All the people I know who have droids are constantly charging them and have battery issues. The battery life on both the iPhone and iPad is awesome. of course I take pictures and ocassional video with my iPhone - but it is primarily a phone for me, and so I find that I have plenty of battery life for everything I need - calls, texting, et al.

I am perfectly happy with my iPhone and will continue to upgrade and buy them in the future.

The reason why people are having trouble with battery life, due to the fact that very few, know how to condition their battery, so that it get used to being used. Most, will just use the battery right out of the box, instead of just letting it drain all the way down and then charge it fully. I have never had an issue with battery life, with both of my droids. Both, lasted a day and a half.

Only a day and a 1/2? That doesn't seem long comapred to my iPhone.

Consider the rights of others before your own feelings, and the feelings of others before your own rights.
~ John Wooden
Reply #62 posted 06/04/12 9:55pm

jtfolden

shorttrini said:

The reason why people are having trouble with battery life, due to the fact that very few, know how to condition their battery, so that it get used to being used. Most, will just use the battery right out of the box, instead of just letting it drain all the way down and then charge it fully. I have never had an issue with battery life, with both of my droids. Both, lasted a day and a half.

You're running off of horribly outdated methodology my friend. Modern Lithium ion type batteries do not need to be fuly discharged before charging. In fact, discharging them completely before recharging them will shorten the life of these batteries if done on a regular basis.

Older Nickel Metal Hydride batteries had a "memory" problem where it was best to let them discharge fully before recharging but newer batteries are the exact opposite.

Reply #63 posted 06/05/12 4:00am

shorttrini

jtfolden said:

shorttrini said:

The reason why people are having trouble with battery life, due to the fact that very few, know how to condition their battery, so that it get used to being used. Most, will just use the battery right out of the box, instead of just letting it drain all the way down and then charge it fully. I have never had an issue with battery life, with both of my droids. Both, lasted a day and a half.

You're running off of horribly outdated methodology my friend. Modern Lithium ion type batteries do not need to be fuly discharged before charging. In fact, discharging them completely before recharging them will shorten the life of these batteries if done on a regular basis.

Older Nickel Metal Hydride batteries had a "memory" problem where it was best to let them discharge fully before recharging but newer batteries are the exact opposite.

No. It is not "outdated" methodology, when u consider that doing the following, will indeed extend the life of your phone. You are still conditioning the battery. Also, keep in mind, most people don't "fully charge" their phones. They might do it for an hour or two tops, but not a full 7 to 8 hours.

  • Lithium-Ion - Li-ion batteries are the newer type of battery that are found it most newer cell phones (most definitely most, if not all, smartphones use Li-ion and many "dumbphones" use them too now). Li-ion can be thought of as "smarter" than NiCad batteries; Li-ion batteries don't suffer from the "memory effect" and thus don't need to be conditioned like NiCad batteries.

Rather, to condition a new Li-ion battery, fully charge it; it should be allowed to charge for 7-8 hours on the first, initial charge. In other words, when you get your new cell phone - and it has a Li-ion battery - allow it to charge for 7-8 hours even if the cell phone claims to be fully charged. (It is preferable to use outlet charger vs car charger or USB charging via computer because of the voltage difference.) After that, there is no reconditioning necessary for Li-ion batteries since they don't suffer from the "memory effect". However, be sure to avoid fully draining/discharging the Li-ion battery as much as possible; every time a Li-ion battery is fully discharged, it loses battery power and life. (That doesn't mean your battery will die if it is ever fully discharged; it means it is best to avoid fully discharging when possible.) Try to recharge Li-ion batteries when they are at 15-25%. Similarly, avoid heat as much as possible and when (if) storing Li-ion batteries, store them not at full charge.

"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
Reply #64 posted 06/05/12 10:35am

Militant

moderator

Modern smartphones do still require battery calibration, but it's more to do with software. If you do not do a full charge, followed by a full drain, phone OS software (both iOS and Android) can give inaccurate results - and indicate that a less than full battery represents 100% of the battery life.

Anyway, battery life on Android is dependent on the model of phone and the capacity of the battery contained within.

The Droid Razr Maxx, for example, packs a 3300mAH battery which offers 21 hours of talk time, 15 hours of constant video playback, and with light to moderate use could most likely last for more than 3 days between charges. However, this is an extreme example as most phones still contains batteries between 2000-2300 mAH batteries, but the trend will go towards more devices like the Razr Maxx over the next few years.

That is a prime example of the beauty of Android. If battery life is your primary concern, buy a Razr Maxx. If fast OS updates are your primary concern, buy a Nexus. If you require a phone with a QWERTY keyboard, you have options there like the Droid 4 or Samsung Galaxy Pro. If you require a larger screen than all other phones, get a Galaxy Note which has a 5.3" screen. If you require a phone that is completely waterproof, you've got the Kyocera Hydro or the Sony Xperia Go. If you're a photography nut, get the Sony Xperia S which has a 12MP camera and the best lens available on all mobile devices (hint, the camera module in the iPhone is an inferior Sony lens).

And if you love video games, get an Xperia Play - a Playstation-certified Android phone with a slide out gaming keypad.

Choice, my friends, is good. More choice is better. No choices is bad. And that is why Android now has 52% global market smartphone market share compared to Apple's 15%.

Reply #65 posted 06/05/12 11:09am

jtfolden

shorttrini said:

jtfolden said:

You're running off of horribly outdated methodology my friend. Modern Lithium ion type batteries do not need to be fuly discharged before charging. In fact, discharging them completely before recharging them will shorten the life of these batteries if done on a regular basis.

Older Nickel Metal Hydride batteries had a "memory" problem where it was best to let them discharge fully before recharging but newer batteries are the exact opposite.

No. It is not "outdated" methodology, when u consider that doing the following, will indeed extend the life of your phone. You are still conditioning the battery. Also, keep in mind, most people don't "fully charge" their phones. They might do it for an hour or two tops, but not a full 7 to 8 hours.

  • Lithium-Ion - Li-ion batteries are the newer type of battery that are found it most newer cell phones (most definitely most, if not all, smartphones use Li-ion and many "dumbphones" use them too now). Li-ion can be thought of as "smarter" than NiCad batteries; Li-ion batteries don't suffer from the "memory effect" and thus don't need to be conditioned like NiCad batteries.

Rather, to condition a new Li-ion battery, fully charge it; it should be allowed to charge for 7-8 hours on the first, initial charge. In other words, when you get your new cell phone - and it has a Li-ion battery - allow it to charge for 7-8 hours even if the cell phone claims to be fully charged. (It is preferable to use outlet charger vs car charger or USB charging via computer because of the voltage difference.) After that, there is no reconditioning necessary for Li-ion batteries since they don't suffer from the "memory effect". However, be sure to avoid fully draining/discharging the Li-ion battery as much as possible; every time a Li-ion battery is fully discharged, it loses battery power and life. (That doesn't mean your battery will die if it is ever fully discharged; it means it is best to avoid fully discharging when possible.) Try to recharge Li-ion batteries when they are at 15-25%. Similarly, avoid heat as much as possible and when (if) storing Li-ion batteries, store them not at full charge.

You do realize that what you quoted supports my statement and not yours, correct? lol

You stated "letting it drain all the way down and then charge it fully" and what you quote states "be sure to avoid fully draining/discharging the Li-ion battery".

Yes, you *should* fully charge your new battery when you get it (and regularly) but you do not need to let it fully discharge first. You're needlessly shortening its life.

In some cases you may wish to drain it on very rare occasions for other reasons* but it's not necessary to condition the battery that way.

*Other reasons usually being of a software nature (or troubleshooting in phones without a removable battery).

Reply #66 posted 06/05/12 11:29am

imago

This thread only makes me realize how glad I am I own Apple products.

They're even starting to sway me with the iPad. I originally didn't 'get' tablets, but now I can see where they come in handy. By tablets, I mean of course, the iPad. Just like by mp3 player, most folks mean iPod.

Unfortunately, I dislike cellphones because many of my calls are work related. So, I'm hoping some of the features of the iPhone 5 leak into the iPod touch later this year--though, I'm sensing sand alone media devices are receiving less love from companies.

I would love to see creative use Android's latest in their media players though. I'm a creative fan, mainly because I love the sound of their mp3 devices. And I don't hate Android. I just like Apple more, but obviously iOS won't be appearing on Creative labs stuff anytime ever. lol

Reply #67 posted 06/05/12 12:41pm

DiminutiveRocker

Militant said:

Modern smartphones do still require battery calibration, but it's more to do with software. If you do not do a full charge, followed by a full drain, phone OS software (both iOS and Android) can give inaccurate results - and indicate that a less than full battery represents 100% of the battery life.

Anyway, battery life on Android is dependent on the model of phone and the capacity of the battery contained within.

The Droid Razr Maxx, for example, packs a 3300mAH battery which offers 21 hours of talk time, 15 hours of constant video playback, and with light to moderate use could most likely last for more than 3 days between charges. However, this is an extreme example as most phones still contains batteries between 2000-2300 mAH batteries, but the trend will go towards more devices like the Razr Maxx over the next few years.

That is a prime example of the beauty of Android. If battery life is your primary concern, buy a Razr Maxx. If fast OS updates are your primary concern, buy a Nexus. If you require a phone with a QWERTY keyboard, you have options there like the Droid 4 or Samsung Galaxy Pro. If you require a larger screen than all other phones, get a Galaxy Note which has a 5.3" screen. If you require a phone that is completely waterproof, you've got the Kyocera Hydro or the Sony Xperia Go. If you're a photography nut, get the Sony Xperia S which has a 12MP camera and the best lens available on all mobile devices (hint, the camera module in the iPhone is an inferior Sony lens).

And if you love video games, get an Xperia Play - a Playstation-certified Android phone with a slide out gaming keypad.

Choice, my friends, is good. More choice is better. No choices is bad. And that is why Android now has 52% global market smartphone market share compared to Apple's 15%.

According to this article Apple and Samsung will have 50% of the smartphone market by 2013.

lol that's quite a jump from 15% in June of 2012.

http://news.cnet.com/8301...t-by-2013/

Don Reisinger
June 5, 2012 8:58 AM PDT

Market share estimates for Apple and Samsung.

[Edited 6/5/12 12:42pm]

Consider the rights of others before your own feelings, and the feelings of others before your own rights.
~ John Wooden
Reply #68 posted 06/05/12 12:43pm

DiminutiveRocker

imago said:

This thread only makes me realize how glad I am I own Apple products.

They're even starting to sway me with the iPad. I originally didn't 'get' tablets, but now I can see where they come in handy. By tablets, I mean of course, the iPad. Just like by mp3 player, most folks mean iPod.

Unfortunately, I dislike cellphones because many of my calls are work related. So, I'm hoping some of the features of the iPhone 5 leak into the iPod touch later this year--though, I'm sensing sand alone media devices are receiving less love from companies.

I would love to see creative use Android's latest in their media players though. I'm a creative fan, mainly because I love the sound of their mp3 devices. And I don't hate Android. I just like Apple more, but obviously iOS won't be appearing on Creative labs stuff anytime ever. lol

nod

Consider the rights of others before your own feelings, and the feelings of others before your own rights.
~ John Wooden
Reply #69 posted 06/11/12 11:58am

nd33

Militant said:

nd33 said:

Will see what Apples new mapping system entails which is being released within next couple of months alongside the iphone 5 if my ears are correct...

Yes, they have purchased a few small-fish mapping companies and are hastily cobbling them together in a pathetic effort to remove Google services from their device.

Not a hope in hell in matching the years of development and information that Google Maps has..... hell, even trying to compete with Street View alone would take Apple at least three years from now.

If you're lucky, Google Maps should remain available in the App Store for people who would like to continue using the world's best mapping service.

The new iOS 6 maps app looks amazing!

Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss...
Reply #70 posted 06/11/12 12:05pm

imago

The features shown in the keynote today are nothing short of amazing.

The new mapping feature looks more mature than what's already out there, and the flyover feature is nothing short of breath-taking. The integration of the mapping software with Siri will be unmatched in the industry.

Apple really just is amazing.

Reply #71 posted 06/12/12 12:37pm

imago

nd33 said:

Militant said:

Yes, they have purchased a few small-fish mapping companies and are hastily cobbling them together in a pathetic effort to remove Google services from their device.

Not a hope in hell in matching the years of development and information that Google Maps has..... hell, even trying to compete with Street View alone would take Apple at least three years from now.

If you're lucky, Google Maps should remain available in the App Store for people who would like to continue using the world's best mapping service.

The new iOS 6 maps app looks amazing!

That's an understatement: http://events.apple.com.e...index.html

The fact that you can naturally talk to Siri and ask for things like gas stations, and Siri will

search for one along the path and report back to you, all without you touching the phone is awesome.

Reply #72 posted 06/13/12 3:27am

Militant

moderator

imago said:

The features shown in the keynote today are nothing short of amazing.

The new mapping feature looks more mature than what's already out there, and the flyover feature is nothing short of breath-taking. The integration of the mapping software with Siri will be unmatched in the industry.

Apple really just is amazing.

LOL! You're smoking crack, right? The Apple maps fall short of Google Maps in about a hundred ways. And Android has had voice controlled navigation and mapping for over two years now.

Reply #73 posted 06/13/12 4:10am

Mistadobalina

Militant said:

I've owned FOUR Android phones to date - including the G1

understandable, since supports ends roughly 48 hours after purchase razz my iPhone is 4 years old and still gets OS updates

Also, you appear to have NO understanding how Android works. First of all, it's an open-source OS so Google don't "sell" it to anyone as you incorrectly claimed. Any manufacturer is free to take the code and use it on their device. Secondly, no, Google don't offer support for things other companies do.

sure, that explains the problems but does not make them go away shrug

Google don't push out updates either to non-Nexus devices. The carriers do. If your phone got screwed by a bad update, it's Verizon's fault. Blame them, not Google.

sure, that explains the problems but does not make them go away shrug

Droid: throwaway kiddie products with the life expectancy of a chewing gum

The Compromise Theory:
Based on my analysis, I believe the government faked the plane crash and demolished the WTC North Tower with explosives.
The South Tower, in a simultaneous but unrelated plot was brought down by actual terrorists.
Is it a deal?
Reply #74 posted 06/13/12 4:15am

Mistadobalina

Militant said:

Choice, my friends, is good. More choice is better. No choices is bad. And that is why Android now has 52% global market smartphone market share compared to Apple's 15%.

nope. the reason is you have to update the hardware every couple of of months if you still want software updates razz

throwaway kiddie prodcuts that in majority are cheaply produced and sold, simply sell more than quality stuff, that's not rocket science

[Edited 6/13/12 4:24am]

The Compromise Theory:
Based on my analysis, I believe the government faked the plane crash and demolished the WTC North Tower with explosives.
The South Tower, in a simultaneous but unrelated plot was brought down by actual terrorists.
Is it a deal?
Reply #75 posted 06/13/12 4:53am

Militant

moderator

Mistadobalina said:

understandable, since supports ends roughly 48 hours after purchase razz my iPhone is 4 years old and still gets OS updates

Hardly. I had my G1 for 2 years. My carrier offer me a new device every year as an upgrade. Why not take it? I enjoy being on the cutting edge. I know iPhone users who have owned every iPhone, also released yearly. Every hardware manufacturer offers comprehensive support.

sure, that explains the problems but does not make them go away shrug

Again, I've never had any problems.

How do you explain the millions of iPhone 4 customers who had signal, only to be laughably told "you're holding the phone wrong".

Also, according to iSuppli - the total bill of materials for the iPhone 4S is $188 per unit, compared to $210 for the Samsung Galaxy S2.

What was that about being made cheaply? Also how does it feel to be completely incorrect? Probably about the same as it feels to have zero choice over your hardware and to be completely dictated to by your Cupertino overlords. Enjoy your walled, childsafe kiddieoproof Apple garden while I explore the whole world smile

Reply #76 posted 06/13/12 5:45am

MacDaddy

yawn yeah let's have another pissing contest about which phone is the best. They're telephones, no?

Let's revisit this once they alow you to teleport into space or summink

Reply #77 posted 06/13/12 5:45am

Mistadobalina

yes, there are a few high end models, don't deny that, and more power to you if you have one smile

but Apple has ONLY high end models. but if you brag around with 52% market share, then you have to count the majority of cheap sub-standard kiddie models too. only fair nod and they are the ones causing the problems, the problems you never had

I'm not an Apple fan, never was, the software is mainly waaaahhhh. yes, I got an MacBook Air cause the hardware is sublime, but it's running Windows 7 and not MacOS

but on smartphones I was willing to make an exception. and I'm sure I can access any corner of the world just like you. just more cozy and comfortable mr.green

The Compromise Theory:
Based on my analysis, I believe the government faked the plane crash and demolished the WTC North Tower with explosives.
The South Tower, in a simultaneous but unrelated plot was brought down by actual terrorists.
Is it a deal?
Reply #78 posted 06/13/12 5:55am

Mistadobalina

as for updates and support on Andorid....

We have all been there, waiting for an update to arrive and not knowing if the manufacture of our device will pull through to make it happen. Theunderstatment.com has taken a look and has graphed out the iPhone and Android update history per device for three years after launch and provides a glimpse at which manufactures are at the top of their game for delivering timely updates.

It's not really a surprise to see Apple devices supported to a greater degree than Android devices as Apple only has a limited number of models that it needs to update. Android, on the other hand, provides a mixed bag of updates with highlights of Google's own devices getting timely updates and then there are devices like the Motorola Cliq and Backflip that left the starting gate already behind. The graphic is representative of "every Android phone shipped in the United States up through the middle of last year".

Is it a straight comparison to compare iPhones to all Android devices, certainly not, and should not be used as material in the great fanboy wars of 2011. A more fair comparison are Nexus product updates to iPhone updates as they are both products directly from the vendor.

The chart is below and we will let you be the judge of who is better at updating their devices in a timely manor.

Image Credit: Theunderstatement.com

Other than the original G1 and MyTouch, virtually all of the millions of phones represented by this chart are still under contract today. If you thought that entitled you to some support, think again:

  • 7 of the 18 Android phones never ran a current version of the OS.
  • 12 of 18 only ran a current version of the OS for a matter of weeks or less.
  • 10 of 18 were at least two major versions behind well within their two year contract period.
  • 11 of 18 stopped getting any support updates less than a year after release.
  • 13 of 18 stopped getting any support updates before they even stopped selling the device or very shortly thereafter.
  • 15 of 18 don’t run Gingerbread, which shipped in December 2010.
  • In a few weeks, when Ice Cream Sandwich comes out, every device on here will be another major version behind.
  • At least 16 of 18 will almost certainly never get Ice Cream Sandwich.

Also worth noting that each bar in the chart starts from the first day of release - so it only gets worse for people who bought their phone late in its sales period.

Why Is This So Bad?

This may be stating the obvious but there are at least three major reasons.

Consumers Get Screwed

Ever since the iPhone turned every smartphone into a blank slate, the value of a phone is largely derived from the software it can run and how well the phone can run it. When you’re making a 2 year commitment to a device, it’d be nice to have some way to tell if the software was going to be remotely current in a year or, heck, even a month. Turns out that’s nearly impossible - here are two examples:

The Samsung Behold II on T-Mobile was the most expensive Android phone ever and Samsung promoted that it would get a major update to Eclair at least. But at launch the phone was already two major versions behind — and then Samsung decided not to do the update after all, and it fell three major OS versions behind. Every one ever sold is still under contract today.

The Motorola Devour on Verizon launched with a Megan Fox Super Bowl ad, while reviews said it was “built to last and it deli...n features.” As it turned out, the Devour shipped with an OS that was already outdated. Before the next Super Bowl came around, it was three major versions behind. Every one ever sold is still under contract until sometime next year.

Developers Are Constrained

Besides the obvious platform fragmentation problems, consider this comparison: iOS developers, like Instapaper’s Marco Arment, waited patiently until just this month to raise their apps’ minimum requirement to the 11 month old iOS 4.2.1. They can do so knowing that it’s been well over 3 years since anyone bought an iPhone that couldn’t run that OS. If developers apply that same standard to Android, it will be at least 2015 before they can start requiring 2010’s Gingerbread OS. That’s because every US carrier is still selling - even just now introducing2 - smartphones that will almost certainly never run Gingerbread and beyond. Further, those are phones still selling for actual upfront money - I’m not even counting the generally even more outdated & presumably much more popular free phones.

It seems this is one area the Android/Windows comparison holds up: most app developers will end up targeting an ancient version of the OS in order to maximize market reach.

Security Risks Loom

In the chart, the dashed line in the middle of each bar indicates how long that phone was getting any kind of support updates - not just major OS upgrades. The significant majority of models have received very limited support after sales were discontinued. If a security or privacy problem popped up in old versions of Android or its associated apps (i.e. the browser), it’s hard to imagine that all of these no-longer-supported phones would be updated. This is only less likely as the number of phones that manufacturers would have to go back and deal with increases: Motorola, Samsung, and HTC all have at least 20 models each in the field already, each with a range of carriers that seemingly have to be dealt with individually.

read more here http://theunderstatement....of-support

what a patchwork of shitter shitty shit smile

I take back what I said above. chewing gums probably get better support and updates razz

but really clever in a way. that's how you sell 52% on the whole market: deny support and make customers buy new models every other week. yes, droids are cheaper. but you need 10 phones during the lifetime of one iPhone. disbelief

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The Compromise Theory:
Based on my analysis, I believe the government faked the plane crash and demolished the WTC North Tower with explosives.
The South Tower, in a simultaneous but unrelated plot was brought down by actual terrorists.
Is it a deal?
Reply #79 posted 06/13/12 6:37am

ufoclub

Militant said:

This video tells you all you need to know.

Around 9:07 he says, "with iOS, developers can do whatever they want and really ruin the experience of the operating system" referring to the fact that each app has it's own interface and location of a back button (or navigation in general).

Doesn't this seem to actually say the iphone is offering more freedom to developers?

At 10:04 he compares "closing apps" navigation and icons, and despite him dismissing the iphone's version, it is so much better looking and "feeling" on the iphone. Just watch this part, it's hilarious that he included it.

And then at 10:56.... lol

He slowly starts to fail to bring up and demonstrate actual examples as well. His taste and logic are a bit suspect!

And up to that point all his criticisms seem to be based on his visual taste or user experience preference. For example, early in the video, he criticizes the gridlike simple look of icons across an iphone vs the way he has his apps limited to a certain area of his screen on his Android. But as a professional graphic designer, I would say the iphone even distribution of icons is much more aesthetically pleasing.

It seems like the majority of criticism against the iphone is that the user of the Android wants the ability to customize their screens and functionality. But of course the whole point of Apple's stance on products is that they have a superior sense of design, function, and usability, and they do not want that messed with because the taste of the user is suspect. If everyone designed and customized their own suit, well, you can imagine that the results from many people in compariosn to buying a fixed, designed suit from a professional fashion designer.

For example (back when both were popular mostly with college kids) compare Facebook to Myspace. Myspace slowly became this horrible place to visit due to the customization of everyone's page, whereas Facebook stuck with a certain aesthetic and functionality. Facebook became the more pleasant place to visit.

Ha, you could even make an analogy to zoning or no zoning rules in a city. In Houston you have no zoning restrictions (unless is a private neighborhood or residential area) and yuo can have a McDonalds next to a porn store next to a church. In cities that are zoned like where I am at right now, you have controlled streets. You find a more uniform but aesthetically pleasing streetview as you drive past. Whether or not that's a good thing is up to your opinion of what you find pleasing as part of your experience.

or

I think it s the difference of buying an IKEA piece of furniture which you can configure whatever way you want, regardless of whether it's tasteful in someone else's opinion. This abillity for customizaton of the furniture does lead to certain bulkiness or "rougher" details. Or there's buying a premade designer piece of furniture which is locked into the consistent design and structure that that designer is famous for.

Iphone is designed as a smart PHONE. Ipad is their convenient user interface for web and entertainment. Outside of that you can get their computers or laptops for doing work within the "constraints" of their design.

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Reply #80 posted 06/13/12 9:26am

nd33

Year after year it's the same result - iPhone always scores top in customer satisfaction.

They're simply doing more things right than anyones else when it comes to mobile phones.

iPhone again scores top s...tisfaction

And that new mapping software is gonna be awesome. You can guarantee that it'll be smooth as butter if it's an Apple product for their baby.

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Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss...
Reply #81 posted 06/13/12 9:29am

imago

Militant said:

imago said:

The features shown in the keynote today are nothing short of amazing.

The new mapping feature looks more mature than what's already out there, and the flyover feature is nothing short of breath-taking. The integration of the mapping software with Siri will be unmatched in the industry.

Apple really just is amazing.

LOL! You're smoking crack, right? The Apple maps fall short of Google Maps in about a hundred ways. And Android has had voice controlled navigation and mapping for over two years now.

Coming from a guy that just a few months ago said android would save Flash on cellphones? falloff

Look, you were wrong about flash. I'm confident you're wrong about this.

Reply #82 posted 06/13/12 9:33am

imago

PurpleJedi, don't get caught up in the specs hoopla.

Ultimately if you're going to shell out tons of money for a top end smartphone you

have to take customer service and the over user experience into consideration.

Here, Apple is simply unchallenged. There are VERY few unhappy iphone

customers. No droid competitor can match customer satisfaction. The can

ramble on and on about various featurs of their plastic cellphones, but

the overall experience is what is important. People love their iphones

for much more than the fact it's the best phone experience out there.

They love them for the service.

BUT..... wait for the iphone 5. I'm suspecting 5 will not be incremental.

Reply #83 posted 06/13/12 9:34am

imago

nd33 said:

Year after year it's the same result - iPhone always scores top in customer satisfaction.

They're simply doing more things right than anyones else when it comes to mobile phones.

iPhone again scores top s...tisfaction

And that new mapping software is gonna be awesome. You can guarantee that it'll be smooth as butter if it's an Apple product for their baby.

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oops, I didn't see this when I posted my comments above. I say "yeah, that ^^^ "

Reply #84 posted 06/13/12 11:32am

Militant

moderator

imago said:

Militant said:

LOL! You're smoking crack, right? The Apple maps fall short of Google Maps in about a hundred ways. And Android has had voice controlled navigation and mapping for over two years now.

Coming from a guy that just a few months ago said android would save Flash on cellphones? falloff

Look, you were wrong about flash. I'm confident you're wrong about this.

I never said that.

Anyway, I still look at flash websites ALL-THE-TIME on my Galaxy S2. It would definitely piss me off if I couldn't.

Anyway, the battle is over, Android is winning and very soon iOS devices will be what OSX devices are - a less than 10% niche.

I just perused my Facebook feed for the first time today and in just TWO MINUTES of looking through my feed I saw no less than SIX, count 'em, SIX posts like this (none of those comments were made by me)....

Even Apple admitted in their court filing against Samsung that the S3 is the most extensively pre-ordered device in history. The judge rightly lambasted on that, saying that information was inconsequential.

Apple can't, and never have been able to compete with Google on software (it's taken them THREE years to develop even a basic Google Maps competitor), and they can't compete with Samsung on hardware - hell, even half the iPhone is made from Samsung parts, and they definitely aren't giving their best materials to Apple. Apple can't compete on innovation, so they compete using lawsuits.

iOS is a closed-development, elitist, dictatorship that you have to jailbreak in order to get basic functionality that should be included out of the box. Android represents the dream of all the world's technology enthuisiasts - an open source model with freedom of choice on every level. A true democratic level playing field.

Thankfully, the market share agrees with the notion, and the numbers don't lie.

It's quite embarrasing how far behind iOS5 was compared to Ice Cream Sandwich. iOS6 has admittedly, closed the gap......but Google are announcing Jelly Bean in two weeks, and Android will surge ahead, once again.

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Reply #85 posted 06/13/12 11:52am

Militant

moderator

Oh yeah, and you were saying about DESIGN?

Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich just took home the Gold Award for "Best Platform Experience" at the legendary Parson's School of Design Annual UX awards show.

The following clip reel was what was shown at the awards.

http://www.androidcentral...-ux-awards

Reply #86 posted 06/13/12 12:28pm

NDRU

why does this thread feel like an infomercial?

Reply #87 posted 06/13/12 1:58pm

Stymie

Go into a store and play with both phones. It comes down to personal preference.
Reply #88 posted 06/13/12 2:02pm

JerseyKRS

I've got a Samsung Galaxy SII Skyrocket running Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0 and LOVE it. It does everything I could possibly need it to, and it does it well.

There are too many things that I DON'T like about the iPhone, they outweigh all the things that I do like about it, so it is an easy decision for me. shrug



Reply #89 posted 06/13/12 4:28pm

Militant

moderator

What was that about Apple's Maps being any good?

http://gizmodo.com/591817...comparison

Google Maps vs. Apple Maps: A Side-By-Side Comparison

The biggest change—among many—in iOS 6will undoubtedly be Apple's new Maps app. And though its turn-by-turn directions, Flyover and oh so sweet Siri look promising, the real question is how Apple's maps will compare to Google's.

Here's a side by side comparison of the two, so you can see for yourself. It may have you wishing Apple hadn't gone it alone quite yet.

It's admittedly a little unfair to judge Apple Maps since it hasn't even passed beta yet, but it doesn't change the fact that Apple's offering has to be great to not be a failure. And it's also worth noting that Siri proved Apple's not afraid to put an incomplete feature on an iPhone.

No iPhone user wanted to kill Google Maps. It makes me uneasy to even think about a phone without it. If you're replacing something as ubiquitous and functional as Google Maps, you had better be just as good. Or as a wise man from the streets once said, "If you come at the king, you best not miss."

Note: In the examples below, Google Maps is on the left and Apple Maps is on the right.

Map View of San Francisco

Google Maps vs. Apple Maps: A Side-By-Side Comparison

Apple's maps look wonderful. Crisp, clean, paper-like, even, but... right now they're completely devoid of useful information.

It's pretty clear that Google Maps gives you more information in terms of street names, street directions, subway stops, emphasis on major streets and so on.


Map View of New York

Google Maps vs. Apple Maps: A Side-By-Side ComparisonThe solution is to add more map information even when zoomed out. Pretty is great to look at; informative is better to use.


Traffic

Google Maps vs. Apple Maps: A Side-By-Side ComparisonTraffic on Apple Maps seems pretty majorly incomplete but this is more of a beta issue than a real-life issue, since Cupertino's going to lean heavily on users to determine where the gridlock is.


Directions

Google Maps vs. Apple Maps: A Side-By-Side ComparisonDirections on both Apple and Google Maps are great; they'll get you to where you need to get to. The advantage of Apple Maps over Google Maps on iOS is that Apple will give you turn-by-turn directions, which Google never did on the iPhone (though it's been available on Android for some time). However, Apple desperately needs to add public transit directions before iOS 6 launches.


Satellite View

Google Maps vs. Apple Maps: A Side-By-Side ComparisonSatellite view, even if you rarely use it, tells the same story. Google Maps just currently has more information at every level.


Street View

Google Maps vs. Apple Maps: A Side-By-Side ComparisonThere is, though, a good chance you use Street View. Apple Maps doesn't have an equivalent feature yet. And though Flyover seems really nice, it's nice in a "show off to your friends" sort of way rather than something you'd use on a regular basis.


We'll see how Apple Maps really works once iOS 6 officially launches. But as of right now, it's lacking a lot of the granularity and features that make Google Maps great. So far upgrading doesn't seem like an upgrade at all.


Reply #90 posted 06/13/12 7:39pm

peacenlovealways

i like my samsung galaxy s2....hooking it up to my tv to watch videos...downloading files on the phone...tethering...

unlucky7 reincarnated
Reply #91 posted 06/14/12 8:49am

Militant

moderator

Yet more REAL WORLD examples, not generic "customer satisfaction surveys" like Apple fans keep blathering on about.

http://www.theverge.com/2...th-android

Introduction

After 4 years of owning an iPhone, I have reached the end of Day 29 of owning an Android phone - specifically, the HTC One X. Why is 29 days noteworthy? Because I have 30 days after buying a new phone to return it to AT&T if I am unhappy - so, if I'm going to go back to the iPhone, it would have to be tomorrow.

I'll go ahead and spoil the ending for you: I'm keeping the HTC One X. If you're curious as to why - read on!

Click the link for the full breakdown.

Reply #92 posted 06/14/12 9:00am

nd33

Militant said:

Yet more REAL WORLD examples, not generic "customer satisfaction surveys" like Apple fans keep blathering on about.

http://www.theverge.com/2...th-android

Introduction

After 4 years of owning an iPhone, I have reached the end of Day 29 of owning an Android phone - specifically, the HTC One X. Why is 29 days noteworthy? Because I have 30 days after buying a new phone to return it to AT&T if I am unhappy - so, if I'm going to go back to the iPhone, it would have to be tomorrow.

I'll go ahead and spoil the ending for you: I'm keeping the HTC One X. If you're curious as to why - read on!

Click the link for the full breakdown.

If you go looking for what you want to hear, you'll always find it...

Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss...
Reply #93 posted 06/14/12 9:09am

Genesia

nd33 said:

Militant said:

Yet more REAL WORLD examples, not generic "customer satisfaction surveys" like Apple fans keep blathering on about.

http://www.theverge.com/2...th-android

Click the link for the full breakdown.

If you go looking for what you want to hear, you'll always find it...

exclaim lol

I mean if he did have sex he would break every rule Jehova's have regarding premarital sex so Prince is really just friends with them all anyway.
Reply #94 posted 06/14/12 11:09am

Militant

moderator

nd33 said:

Militant said:

Yet more REAL WORLD examples, not generic "customer satisfaction surveys" like Apple fans keep blathering on about.

http://www.theverge.com/2...th-android

Click the link for the full breakdown.

If you go looking for what you want to hear, you'll always find it...

Well, that's not true at all.

What I WANT to hear is a new Prince album that sounds like a cross between "1999" and "Dream Factory" biggrin

Reply #95 posted 06/14/12 11:22am

nd33

Militant said:

nd33 said:

If you go looking for what you want to hear, you'll always find it...

Well, that's not true at all.

What I WANT to hear is a new Prince album that sounds like a cross between "1999" and "Dream Factory" biggrin

I'm with you on that. We're fucked.

lol

Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss...
Reply #96 posted 06/14/12 11:47am

Stymie

Militant said:

nd33 said:

If you go looking for what you want to hear, you'll always find it...

Well, that's not true at all.

What I WANT to hear is a new Prince album that sounds like a cross between "1999" and "Dream Factory" biggrin

Come on now. How hard is it to create your own? lol

Reply #97 posted 06/14/12 12:59pm

NDRU

Militant said:

What was that about Apple's Maps being any good?

http://gizmodo.com/591817...comparison

Google Maps vs. Apple Maps: A Side-By-Side Comparison

This would be pretty compelling (and moving away from Google Maps seems like a bad idea) but Apple Maps is not even released. Who knows if this version is even complete?

Reply #98 posted 06/15/12 5:19am

Mistadobalina

Militant said:

Yet more REAL WORLD examples, not generic "customer satisfaction surveys" like Apple fans keep blathering on about.

http://www.theverge.com/2...th-android

right. who needs surveys that ask MANY many people, if you can find ONE person that agrees with you eek razz

damn, take off your pink glasses and denying simple facts.

the desastrous update situation on Andorid is mindboggling. yes, I know it's not Googles fault and it's not happening on your high end model. but that does not help the masses!

The Compromise Theory:
Based on my analysis, I believe the government faked the plane crash and demolished the WTC North Tower with explosives.
The South Tower, in a simultaneous but unrelated plot was brought down by actual terrorists.
Is it a deal?
Reply #99 posted 06/15/12 7:31am

Poplife88

iPhone, iPhone, iPhone. Got the 1st gen which lasted up until a month ago, when I finally got the 4GS. the thing is my lifeline. I wouldnt even THINK of getting a droid.

We're gonna need a bigger boat
Reply #100 posted 06/15/12 7:34am

Militant

moderator

One person? I posted at least FIVE earlier in the thread.

Surveys are skewed. More people trust real life examples than biased, generic, "customer surveys" where you don't even see real feedback, just "87% of customers said XYZ".

What are the variables of that study? Just middle class yuppies? Hipsters?

Fuck a survey, read what the PEOPLE are saying. Market share is more of a representative of the people, and we know what the score is there.

Also - only the previous two iPhones are getting iOS6 (and not all the features), and the first iPad isn't getting it at all. So it's not as if there aren't iOS users left in the cold with regards to updates either.

The people who care about getting updates swiftly will get Nexus-line devices or premium OEM devices that are high priority. Or a mid-range with an unlocked bootloader so community developed firmware like CyanogenMod can be utilised.

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Reply #101 posted 06/18/12 2:40am

Mistadobalina

Militant said:

One person? I posted at least FIVE earlier in the thread.

handpicked fanboys? sorry I rather believe in surveys then smile

anyway most of it is about pesonal taste and preference, look and feel, maps... subjective balloney

however, support (or lack thereof) is not subjective. it's 100% factual. why no comment from you on this graphic? why continue to ignore the truth? it is not a survey. it is hard facts.

Also - only the previous two iPhones are getting iOS6

wrong. 3GS gets it. so it has support way more than 3 1/2 years after release! yes, it won't have all the features. you can not support software for a front camera if there is no front camera hardware.... shrug

3 1/2 years. your usual Andoid has support for 3 weeks, or 3 months, if you're lucky.

The people who care about getting updates swiftly will get Nexus-line devices or premium OEM devices that are high priority. Or a mid-range with an unlocked bootloader so community developed firmware like CyanogenMod can be utilised.

in the meantime iPhone users don't have to worry about all the techno brabble and what choices to make or not to make. they simply will get the support. end of story.

again, I'm happy for you and that your high end model does not have these problmes. but if you claim a market share of 50+% then you have to include the garbage models too

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The Compromise Theory:
Based on my analysis, I believe the government faked the plane crash and demolished the WTC North Tower with explosives.
The South Tower, in a simultaneous but unrelated plot was brought down by actual terrorists.
Is it a deal?
Reply #102 posted 06/18/12 4:29am

Militant

moderator

That graphic is fundamentally flawed for one, and out of date for two.

At last years Google I/O an agreement was made with OEM's for them to make more of an effort with the update situation and it seems to be working.

It's flawed because you can't dictate what OEM's do with open-source software. In this scenario, that's the ONE downside.

What you're doing is focusing on this one scenario where a dictatorship can yield a more effective result than a democracy and disregarding everything else. It's like claiming Stalin was a great leader of Russia because of his rapid industrialisation developments that could only be achieved under a brutal dictatorship.

That graphic is also US-centric. Outside of the US, 2 year contracts seem ridiculous. Most people here in the UK have 12 or 18 month contracts. I can get any premium phone here for free on an 18 month contract. Even the people I know with iPhones update every year or 18 months, usually. So the VAST majority of people don't give a shit about support past the first 12-18 months anyway. Hardware manufacturers know this.

Reply #103 posted 06/18/12 9:58am

Militant

moderator

Here's the problem with these surveys:

A recent Piper Jaffray survey of 100 developers reported that most developers favored developing for iOS over Android, and a significant amount developed exclusively for iOS.

HOWEVER....

This survey..... was conducted at...... Apple's Developer Conference. falloff falloff lol falloff

Wonder what the results at Google's Developer Conference would show?

Reply #104 posted 06/18/12 10:58am

sextonseven

Militant said:

That graphic is also US-centric.

I don't know much about either brand, but considering the OP lives in the U.S., I'd think that would be pretty important.

Reply #105 posted 06/18/12 11:59am

mcmeekle

These kind of comparisons are mostly futile because people misunderstand what it is they are comparing.

The iPhone4s is the flagship Apple device running the latest iOS. It can only really be compared to a similar product. Ie, the Samsung Galaxy SIII or the HTC OneX running ICS.

This will no doubt progress to the iPhone5 on iOS6 vs the latest Google phone on JellyBean or whatever it is called.

Any other comparisons are pointless unless it's like-for-like. It's like comparing a Rolls Royce to every other car. You wouldn't do that.

I have a BlackBerry 9790. smile

Reply #106 posted 06/18/12 12:15pm

NDRU

mcmeekle said:

These kind of comparisons are mostly futile because people misunderstand what it is they are comparing.

The iPhone4s is the flagship Apple device running the latest iOS. It can only really be compared to a similar product. Ie, the Samsung Galaxy SIII or the HTC OneX running ICS.

This will no doubt progress to the iPhone5 on iOS6 vs the latest Google phone on JellyBean or whatever it is called.

Any other comparisons are pointless unless it's like-for-like. It's like comparing a Rolls Royce to every other car. You wouldn't do that.

I have a BlackBerry 9790. smile

I think this applies to "Mac vs PC" discussions as well.

All I know is, if droid/samsung/htc is better than my iphone, then good for them, but the iphone is one of the coolest devices ever made. Every day I am astounded by what this thing in my hand can do, compared to what an Apple computer did 20 years ago. Or compared even to what my current laptop can do!

And to use your car analogy, I would guess there are ways that Mercedes is better than BMW and Lexus is better than Acura. But I would be happy driving any of those over my Camry lol

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