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The Pro Wrestling Thread #7

What's up with these wrestling threads being closed all of a sudden?? It happened with the last one, too ("The Pro Wrestling Thread #5"). disbelief

Anywho...

http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc...45607.html

Tito Ortiz ponders future in the WWE

ESPN staff

April 12, 2012

Former UFC light-heavyweight champion Tito Ortiz expects Forrest Griffin to be his final fight with the promotion on July 7, and he hinted his future could be in the WWE.

In his prime Ortiz defended the 205lb belt more times than any other before or after him. A devastating ground-and-pound exponent, the Huntington Beach Bad Boy became one of the most popular figures in the sport.

However, a run of injuries has led to him winning just one of his last eight fights, and it is widely expected that he will bow out against Griffin. The pair have won one fight each, so this settles the trilogy.

"It's my final hurrah, Forrest brings the best out of me and vice-versa, and on July 7 we're gonna get some late fireworks," Ortiz told ESPN.

"I've had some major surgeries but I took the fights anyway, and I've shown that I'm able to compete. A lot of athletes don't compete with injuries, but I have. Those fights with Forrest were tight, and a completion of the trilogy should be the right way to end my career.

"It's my decision, I want to leave on my own terms. I haven't been injured badly, I've got my head on my shoulders, I agreed the fight and I go out on my terms."

However, Ortiz has not completely shut the door on a UFC extension. The American admits a big win could tempt him to fight on, although a move into the WWE - where Brock Lesnar recently returned - also appeals.

"I may have another one... you never know," Ortiz said of extending his UFC stay. "But I've got a lot of options. I've seen Brock Lesnar go back to the WWE, that's something I may entertain, do some 'theatrical entertainment' as they call it.

"I've got my clothing company, my supplement line Punishment Nutrition, it's business to me. I'm not going to be able to fight for the rest of my life and I want to leave on my terms."

Ortiz has had some classic rivalries over the years, most famously against Chuck Liddell. He also won a trilogy against Ken Shamrock, but he states the Griffin battle overshadows the rest.

"This one ranks right at the top. This is over Chuck Liddell or Ken Shamrock because this is my last fight," Ortiz said. "We've both done a lot for this sport and if I'm going to end things it deserves to be Forrest I do it against."

Asked if he would consider a collision with former rival on TV show The Apprentice, Piers Morgan, Ortiz laughed: "Piers? I had my chance to get him and it didn't happen. Piers is a good guy, very crafty, but he's intelligent and smart and somebody I look up to."

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Reply #1 posted 04/12/12 1:37pm

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Dennis Rodman at WrestleReunion? Really?? disbelief

I love me some New Jack! lol

My boy Colt Cabana

One of my baby mamas

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Reply #2 posted 04/12/12 1:45pm

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YES! YES! YES! YES! lol

Daniel Bryan on Wrestlemania, His History with the WWE, and Being a Vegan Pro Wrestler

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This year's Wrestlemania started with a bang that felt like a whimper. For the past few months, Daniel Bryan had held the World Heavyweight Championship in true asshole bad-guy fashion, beating larger guys through luck and chicanery and celebrating his own awesomeness loudly and awesomely. But in the opening match of the WWE's biggest show, hulking Irishman Sheamus defeated Bryan and took his belt in all of 16 seconds, kicking Bryan's face off after he had his back turned.

But on the following night's edition of Monday Night Raw, though, something magical happened. The crowd, mostly die-hard wrestling fans who'd stuck around Miami for another night after Wrestlemania, cheered for Bryan the entire time, despite Bryan himself never appearing in the ring. Throughout the show, they roared Bryan's signature chant ("Yes! Yes! Yes!") no matter what was happening. Those chants have continued at WWE shows, and there have been reports of them appearing at completely unrelated sporting events. Given that Bryan is, in storyline terms, a bad guy, as well as someone who the WWE never took all that seriously, this is the wrestling-fan equivalent of civil disobedience.

Bryan's got that fan sympathy for a lot of reasons. For one thing, he spent more than a decade wrestling on the independent circuit before making it to the WWE, perfecting his craft to the point where he was, by general dork consensus, the single best pro wrestler in that world. His style, marked by brutal head-kicks and intricate MMA-derived submission holds, is built around doing stuff to his opponents that looks like it hurts real bad, and he's arguably better than anyone else at bringing that pain. For another, he doesn't exactly fit the standard pro wrestler image. He's a scraggly-bearded vegan indie rock fan, and though he's certainly diesel, he's nowhere near the absurdly muscular body type we most associate with WWE types. He carries himself like your friend's half-awkward stoner little brother, and that means he's an easy man to like.

We spoke with Bryan about his new crowd favorite status, his history with the WWE, and the general difficulties that come with being a vegan professional wrestler.

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GQ: In the last couple of weeks, you've experienced a real groundswell of crowd support. Was this a surprise?


Daniel Bryan:
Yeah, it really was, especially the reaction last week in Miami for Monday Night Raw. I didn't expect that at all. How could you?

GQ: Monday was a special night. What were you thinking as the night went on and the chants just kept going?


Daniel Bryan:
I thought the whole thing was unreal, that all these people were getting behind me. Or maybe they weren't getting behind me. Maybe it's just fun to chant "Yes!" But it was really cool. I came out and did a post-show [non-televised] dark match, and there was a really special moment where they were behind me 100%.

GQ: Do you have any ideas as to why it's happening right now?


Daniel Bryan:
Especially last week in Miami, I feel like part of it was a backlash against how short my match at Wrestlemania was. A lot of it is that people like to boo me, but they kind of like me. They don't want bad things to happen to me, like an 18-second loss at Wrestlemania, especially the hardcore fans, which is mostly who comes for Wrestlemania. People come from all over the world. They travel to Wrestlemania, and a lot of those people know my story, how long it took me to get a Wrestlemania match. And then for my first one to be an 18-second loss, it actually generated a lot of anger.

GQ: Do you share that anger?


Daniel Bryan:
Of course I do. I was World Heavyweight Champion for four months. I wanted to go out there and steal the show. I was trained by Shawn Michaels, and that's what he's notorious for. I've always had the mindset that my wrestling is as good as or better than anybody out there. I was really looking forward to going out there and showing everybody what I can do on the biggest stage of them all, and then I just wasn't able to do it.

GQ: What was the conversation like when you were told that the match was going to go down like this?


Daniel Bryan:
I mean, there wasn't much of a conversation. This is my job, you know? You have to do something, and even if you don't like it, that's what you do. But you go out there and do the best that you can. I went out and did the best entrance I could possibly do. You just do your best; that's all anybody can do.

GQ: There have been moments where WWE has been notorious for not doing what its audience wants. But with all the chants for you and how much you've been catching on since Wrestlemania, it seems like the company wouldn't be able to ignore that.


Daniel Bryan:
Well, for example, [this week] I wasn't on Raw. There were loads of "Yes!" signs in the crowd, but I wasn't on Raw. There's always a lot of things that go into that; it was a hectic show. But yeah, there's some stuff like that that happens.

GQ: Moving forward, what would you like to be doing?


Daniel Bryan:
I would like to have a more aggressive side to my character. Losing the World Heavyweight Championship in 18 seconds, storyline or not, is going to anger somebody. If you've been champion for four months and you lose it in 18 seconds on what's kind of a cheap shot, you're going to be a little bit angry. I'd like to amp up the more aggressive side of my character in that sense. But as far as what happens from here, who knows? I'm hoping that the fans keep getting behind me. Even if they do the "Yes!" chant in a mocking sense, I want them to see me in the same light that they've seen me before, as one of the main event guys on Smackdown.

GQ: Are there any people in particular that you're hoping to work with?


Daniel Bryan:
I'd love to actually get a good match with Sheamus [laughs]. Last year, Sheamus and I were supposed to wrestle for the United States title, and it got bumped to the dark match before the show. This year, we were supposed to wrestle for the World Heavyweight Championship, and it was 18 seconds. Sheamus and I don't like each other, but our styles fit together very well. We're both very hard-hitting wrestlers, and we both want to go out there and steal the show. That's true at any pay-per-view, any show, regardless of whether it's Wrestlemania or a live event in, say, Athens, Georgia. We want to be what people are talking about when they leave.

GQ: You and Sheamus were both wrestling at little holiday camps in England a few years ago, right?


Daniel Bryan:
Yeah, it's true. Sheamus obviously spent less time in independent wrestling than I did. But I spent a lot of time wrestling in high school gyms in front of 35 people. But I've also spent a lot of time in Japan, wrestling in front of 55,000 people. I've done both ends of the spectrum on the independent scale. But yeah, five years ago, me and Sheamus could've easily wrestled each other in front of 40 people in some little town hall in England.

GQ: Where did the "Yes!" chant come from? Was that your idea?


Daniel Bryan:
It was really just, "How do I be as obnoxious as possible?" The "Yes!" thing came from a UFC fighter named Diego Sanchez. He's a tremendous fighter, but he also has these little obnoxious aspects to his character. One thing that he used to do—he doesn't really do it anymore—is that when he would come to the cage, he'd say "Yes! Yes! Yes!"—not the same way I do it, but as some sort of positive affirmation that he could win the fight. I thought, "I love this guy, but that's so annoying!" And then when I became a bad guy, I started doing it, and it really worked out. Speaking of Diego Sanchez, he also did something ludicrous in his last fight: Brandishing a cross in front of him like he was warding off a vampire. If my character has to change at all, I might do that [laughs].

GQ: I loved your title reign. It would've been cool to see you just crush some more people, but the way your character was the guy who would sneak away with the win, I thought it was really well-done.


Daniel Bryan:
I was really thrilled with it, actually. I didn't expect to hold the title as long as I did. When I won it, I thought, "Oh, this is just a temporary thing. I'll probably lose it at the Royal Rumble." It cemented me, in a lot of people's minds, as someone who could be in a main-event spot and do a good job at it.

GQ: How hard is it to find good vegan food on the road?


Daniel Bryan:
Oh, it's so hard. I've been doing media all morning, so I had to be on the hotel lobby at 5:45 this morning. We had an hour between two interviews, so trying to find a vegan spot here in Virginia that's open that early was tough. But we found one! It's harder late at night, after shows. If we finish work at 10:30 and we've got a 250-mile drive, it's hard to find anything vegan, so I just bring a lot of protein shakes and stuff like that.

GQ: Which cities have the best food option for you?


Daniel Bryan:
I love Chicago. We'll be there for Extreme Rules at the end of this month. I love Seattle because that's where I'm from and I know all the spots. One of the places I love flying into is Baltimore. There's this vegan place right across from the airport that I always go to, and that's always a real treat. But in major cities, I can always find someplace good.

GQ: You're a big indie rock guy; what have you been listening to lately?


Daniel Bryan:
Right now, I'm really digging this English guy named Frank Turner. He was opening for someone in Vegas recently, where I live, and I just missed him. We had a show on a Saturday, and I had to fly out on the Friday night, which is when his show was. He's my current favorite. And I also have a hit single with Kimya Dawson. She did the soundtrack for Juno, and she was part of the Moldy Peaches. It wasn't a hit single! [laughs] I did a song with her about Captain Lou Albano.

GQ: Is music something you want to do more of?


Daniel Bryan:
No, no. I have a horrible voice. We recorded it just because she was making this tribute to Lou Albano. She knows me, I'm a wrestler, and she loves wrestling, so she was like, "Hey! You do backing vocals." I'm actually rapping, of all things. I don't think I have much of a career as a rapper.

GQ: The documentary Wrestling Road Diaries shows you on the road in your independent days, and it's got you buying records from thrift stores in all the cities you visit. Do you still try to find time to do that?


Daniel Bryan:
It's hard now because I don't ever have time to listen to records. I left Vegas on Sunday, and I won't be home for 25 days. On the independents, I'd only be wrestling two or three days a week. I'd go to Japan, and I'd be gone longer, but normally I'd be home four days a week and I'd have time to listen to records. Now, we're on the road so much and I'm home so infrequently that it's just not worth the money. I was spending like $250 a month on records, but I just don't get a chance to listen.

GQ: How difficult is all that travel? Does it wear you down?


Daniel Bryan:
The most draining part of it is that there's not a break. You don't get two weeks to let your body heal unless you're actually hurt, and none of us want to get hurt. There's no point where you can take a breather from it all. Raw is live every Monday, so you never get more than four days off in a row, and that can be taxing. That's the way the whole thing goes.

GQ: Do you find yourself missing the independent scene, or are you happier with the WWE?


Daniel Bryan:
There are positives and negatives to both. I wanted to come to WWE party for personal accomplishment. I'd done essentially everything I could do on the independent scene, and I wanted to see how far I could get in the WWE. But also, you can only do this for so long, and at some point you have to try to save enough money to retire or at least to put yourself into a position to do something else. But what I miss most about independent wrestling is the people. I have a lot of friends in independent wrestling, and those bonds develop over 10 years. They don't come quickly. In the WWE, it's such a competitive atmosphere. There are only a few top spots, and then the rest of them are independent spots; you don't really create the bonds and friendships that I had on the independents.

GQ: But a bunch of indie guys are coming to the WWE now, right? Like Claudio Castagnoli and Chris Hero?


Daniel Bryan:
Yeah, and I'm excited. I hope those guys get up on the road. That would be cool. But they're still down in the developmental system right now. Taking that step up from the developmental system to TV, you never know why they're going to bring somebody up. They could be down there a couple of years. My friend Tyler Black is wrestling in the developmental system as Seth Rollins; I'd love to have him come up to TV. That would be cool for me, but who knows when that's actually going to happen?

GQ: Do you have a favorite match that you've wrestled in the WWE?


Daniel Bryan:
I don't have a specific favorite match. I had a series of matches with William Regal, and some of them were in England, where those people are so behind William Regal and so anti-me. And this is when I was a good guy! I just loved that. William played a big part in my training; he was a mentor to me ever since I was 18 years old. It was just a blast for us to go out there and wrestle like only we could do it.

GQ: How about in your years before WWE? Do you have a favorite match or a favorite feud?


Daniel Bryan:
It's hard to say. I always loved wrestling Nigel McGuinness, and we had this match in England. Those people just loved Nigel; he's English. I ran his head into a pole, and he started bleeding furiously. That crowd was so with him. It was one of those matches where, at the end, you feel like you've accomplished something, like you really touched the 1200 people there. That's something that I miss about independent wrestling as well: The intimacy of those crowds. That was one of my favorite matches ever.

GQ: You've known CM Punk for a long time. On the indies, you used to call yourself "Best in the World," and he's adapted that as his catchphrase. Did he clear it with you beforehand?


Daniel Bryan:
No, he didn't [laughs]. Literally, we haven't talked about it at all.

GQ: You're not annoyed about it?


Daniel Bryan:
No, not at all. Chris Jericho had done something similar after I had done it. The only thing that I find really funny is that the "Best in the World" font on the back of his T-shirt is almost identical to the "Best in the World" on the back of my Ring of Honor shirts. It's just funny.

GQ: Punk used to use Living Colour's "Cult of Personality" as his theme music on the indies, and the WWE recently licensed it for him. You used to use Europe's "The Final Countdown." Has there been any talk of you getting that in the WWE?


Daniel Bryan:
There has been zero. They've never mentioned getting anything licensed for me. Maybe things will change. But you know, I like the "Ride of the Valkyries" mix that I've got going on now.

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oh btw that was what velvet was screaming to me as i was slamming her last night

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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L4OATheOriginal said:

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oh btw that was what velvet was screaming to me as i was slamming her last night



And then you woke up from your dream with sticky sheets. Stop lyin' on my girlfriend before you and I start having some problems!!
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alexnvrmnd777 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

:yes:

:yes:

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oh btw that was what velvet was screaming to me as i was slamming her last night

And then you woke up from your dream with sticky sheets. Stop lyin' on my girlfriend before you and I start having some problems!!

not lying over there mr cena wanna be

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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L4OATheOriginal said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

L4OATheOriginal said: And then you woke up from your dream with sticky sheets. Stop lyin' on my girlfriend before you and I start having some problems!!

not lying over there mr cena wanna be

That, sir, is an insult. But luckily for you, I'm choosing to rise above your hate!

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L4OATheOriginal said:

not lying over there mr cena wanna be

That, sir, is an insult. But luckily for you, I'm choosing to rise above your hate!

see there u go quoting again lol

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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This past Wednesday Maria Kanellis joined VOC Wrestling Nation in Philadelphia. Here are a few highlights from the appearance.

On her gimmick as the first lady of ROH: Its great since its only me and Mia over there. All of the attention is on us two girls.

On ROH's status: We have already surpassed TNA. We are brining in new stars and making celebrities out of them. We have the top stars in the world.

On the YES chant: That was started over 2 months ago at ROH; we were surprised that it took that long to catch on there.

On why she came back to wrestling: I took a year off and got the itch. I have always had passion for wrestling; I watched when I was a kid.

On working with Jim Cornette: It's a lot of fun, I'm learning so much. He's one of the greatest heel managers of all time.

On working with Donald Trump during the Celebrity Apprentice: He is very funny compared to what you see on TV. He knows how bad his hair is too.

On getting released by the WWE: John Laurinitis called and released me the day after my birthday. I was starting to do more mainstream things and they didn't want to give me a pay raise. There were tons of opportunities elsewhere. They didn't want to give me the opportunity to do other things.

On doing Playboy: I turned Playboy down when I was 19, but I was ready when I was 25. It is great to be a part of that, and forever etched into history.

On Twitter: I want to come through the screen and strangle Michael Cole. He is not the person that should be talking about trends. ROH is more concerned with who is seeing the show than who is talking about it on Twitter.

source: VOC Wrestling Nation

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C'mon, WWE. We're not dumb!! disbelief

At Monday's Raw SuperShow at the Verizon Center in Washington D.C., WWE had arena security confiscate signs referencing Lord Tensai's past characters—Prince Albert, Albert and A-Train. The signs were taken away prior to his match against Yoshi Tatsu. During the bout, the crowd could be heard chanting "Albert," which Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler did not acknowledge.

While Cole referred to Lord Tensai as a returning WWE Superstar in his Raw SuperShow debut last week, there has not been any specific references made to any of his former personas on television. However, WWE.com has acknowledged that he previously competed as Albert and A-Train before "embarking on a journey of self-discovery in Japan."

source: PWInsider

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This past Wednesday Maria Kanellis joined VOC Wrestling Nation in Philadelphia. Here are a few highlights from the appearance.

On her gimmick as the first lady of ROH: Its great since its only me and Mia over there. All of the attention is on us two girls.

On ROH's status: We have already surpassed TNA. We are brining in new stars and making celebrities out of them. We have the top stars in the world.

On the YES chant: That was started over 2 months ago at ROH; we were surprised that it took that long to catch on there.

On why she came back to wrestling: I took a year off and got the itch. I have always had passion for wrestling; I watched when I was a kid.

On working with Jim Cornette: It's a lot of fun, I'm learning so much. He's one of the greatest heel managers of all time.

On working with Donald Trump during the Celebrity Apprentice: He is very funny compared to what you see on TV. He knows how bad his hair is too.

On getting released by the WWE: John Laurinitis called and released me the day after my birthday. I was starting to do more mainstream things and they didn't want to give me a pay raise. There were tons of opportunities elsewhere. They didn't want to give me the opportunity to do other things.

On doing Playboy: I turned Playboy down when I was 19, but I was ready when I was 25. It is great to be a part of that, and forever etched into history.

On Twitter: I want to come through the screen and strangle Michael Cole. He is not the person that should be talking about trends. ROH is more concerned with who is seeing the show than who is talking about it on Twitter.

source: VOC Wrestling Nation

get on line maria cause ur not the only one

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Kurt Angle officially announced that he has pulled out of next week's Olympic team trials in Iowa. Angle cited knee and hamstring injuries for pulling out. The Associated Press has picked up on the story and spoke with Angle about his decision.

"Here I am, at the 11:30 hour, and I get the worst injury I've gotten in the last year," said Angle. "I've had four or five injuries, but I've worked around them. This one, I can't work around... There's no way around it."

Angle stated that the injury would not affect his TNA career.

"My No. 1 priority is TNA Wrestling," Angle stated. "With TNA, I can work around my injuries and still have a five-star match."

source: WrestlingInc

Well, we knew this was coming ever since his injury was announced a few weeks ago, even though he was saying at the time that he was going to continue.
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TNA Wrestling President Dixie Carter said there would be a lot of changes to the presentation of Impact Wrestling after meeting with Spike TV officials the prior day. Though she would not reveal specific details, the transformation is taking place soon and will include "format changes and new elements." Carter added the company is making a very conscious decision to focus now on young talent.

Carter also said Bruce Prichard, Senior Vice President of Programming and Talent Relations for TNA Wrestling, has returned to work after recently suffering a 'small' heart attack and has dropped thirty-one pounds. She says Prichard was set to undergo heart surgery when he suffered the heart attack.

source: F4WOnline

Hopefully one of the big changes will be getting Hogan's and Bischoff's dumbasses outta there. lol

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BWAHAHAHAHA! This is more entertaining than anything TNA's got on-air at the moment! lol

Scott Steiner took to his Twitter again today to bash Hulk Hogan. Here is his latest rant: "Wtf hogan in the fantasy world u live in u need to get hookd on phonics so u can read... U stupid motherf--ker,my tweets havent bn about what i believe, but about what u have done... Now u have a cystal ball in yur fantansy world and u can see my future,look at yur own future.you better hope im not in it, And hopefully karma keeps visiting you in yur future

"I feel bad for everyone close to u also especially yur wife,a lil advice in the 'future'... Dont say beatlejuice 3x in front of her:...................... She has a small head....

"Anytime Hogan !!!"

source: WrestlingInc

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A-Sides With Jon Chattman: Our Lady Peace Throws a Curve, Discusses the Late Chris Benoit

Posted: 04/12/2012 12:10 pm

Some bands refuse to play some of their songs live. Radiohead immediately comes to mind, because for the most part, they rarely perform their mega-hit "Creep" on tour. The reasoning varies from band to band, but in the case of Thom Yorke and company I'm pretty sure they nixed that song from any set because they despise all it stood for when it came out in the grunge rock era. I could be wrong, but it really doesn't matter. In the case of Canadian rockers Our Lady Peace, they've chosen to take one of their popular songs off any set list for an entirely different reason. In a nutshell, the track comes with way too much baggage.

"Whatever" was the entrance song for fellow Canadian star and former WWE (World Wrestling Entertainment) superstar Chris Benoit, whose wrestling career and life ended in a murder-suicide in 2007. In an interview just prior to their show at the Bowery Ballroom in New York City on April 5, the band's frontman Raine Maida and guitarist Steve Mazur discussed how they've had to retire the song altogether because of the incomprehensible tragedy that took place (Benoit allegedly killed his wife and young son before taking his own life). It's such a shame, because the song is so damn kick ass but "whatever." During an "A-Sides" session, the three of us discussed that and the weight of it all, but also kept the mood light in typical "A-Sides" fashion -- discussing the band's new album Curve, current tour, and weighing in on a Eugene Levy vs. Rick Moranis debate. Thankfully, mindless Chattman chatter wasn't all that the pair took part in. They performed flawless, stripped down renditions of the band's 1997 hit "Clumsy" as well as a new song "Allowance" off Curve, which drops April 17, in the Bowery green room.

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

BWAHAHAHAHA! This is more entertaining than anything TNA's got on-air at the moment! lol

Scott Steiner took to his Twitter again today to bash Hulk Hogan. Here is his latest rant: "Wtf hogan in the fantasy world u live in u need to get hookd on phonics so u can read... U stupid motherf--ker,my tweets havent bn about what i believe, but about what u have done... Now u have a cystal ball in yur fantansy world and u can see my future,look at yur own future.you better hope im not in it, And hopefully karma keeps visiting you in yur future

"I feel bad for everyone close to u also especially yur wife,a lil advice in the 'future'... Dont say beatlejuice 3x in front of her:...................... She has a small head....

"Anytime Hogan !!!"

source: WrestlingInc

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Interview with Marty Jannetty

Like many wrestling fans, the first time I saw Marty Jannetty was in the American Wrestling Association, where he was one half of the Midnight Rockers with Shawn Michaels. At this stage of his career, Jannetty had already been wrestling for a few years in smaller regional promotions and had a successful amateur wrestling background in High School, but I was oblivious to those facts. What I saw was a tag team that I viewed as a rip off of an existing duo called the Rock and Roll Express, who was a very successful tandem in the National Wrestling Alliance.

Visually, it was easy to make that initial comparison. Both teams came out to Rock and Roll Music (not common in the late 80’s), both were relatively undersized, both had similar ring attire and both featured one wrestler who had blond hair and a teammate with brown. As a fourteen year old teenage boy who was in a stage in life where success with the opposite sex was sadly a mystery, identifying with a pair of good looking twenty-somethings who drew the screams of every girl in the audience (seemingly regardless of age) was difficult.

It was not long before I changed my opinion of the Midnight Rockers. The AWA at that time still had a National television deal, but it was an organization in decline. Their roster was made up primarily of wrestlers north of 40 and south of 30 and as part of the younger group, Jannetty and Michaels were considerably more athletic than many of their peers.

Unlike the Rock and Roll Express (and really every other tag team), the Midnight Rockers excelled at offensive attacks off the top rope and creating unique double team moves. Their matches were like snowflakes, no two were alike, and exciting as their innovative wrestling style was, they did so without forsaking the traditional mat based wrestling that made the action palatable to traditional fans.

They would win the AWA Tag Team Championship twice, and would be the highlight of every show they wrestled on there. It wasn’t long before the larger stage of the then named, World Wrestling Federation called, and the now singular named, “Rockers”, captured the imaginations of fans on the biggest platform of all.

Although the Rockers never became Tag Team Champions in the WWF, their popularity in the organization had few rivals. For over three years, Jannetty and Michaels dazzled audiences on Pay Per Views, Televised events and house shows. Like they did in the AWA, the Rockers were often putting on the match of the night, regardless of their position on the card. However, all good things come to an end.

In early 1992, the popular tandem dissolved their partnership in a manner which set the bar on how tag teams should split up. The two were guests on Brutus Beefcake’s weekly segment; The Barber Shop. In the months leading up to the event, their trademark double team maneuvers were off, and they would bicker at each other on camera. It was all very subtle, but expertly done by the two wrestlers. Brutus brought them on to his show, and the two seemingly reconciled, only for Michaels to suddenly thrust kick Jannetty, and then throw him head first through a window placed on the set.

It was a brutal scene. There had been chairs, steel cages and other forms of steel brandished about to cause violent looking images in wrestling, but nothing like this had ever occurred. Roles were cast; Jannetty would continue on as the fan favorite Rocker, where Michaels suddenly became the conceited, pretty boy heel. Unfortunately, the feud that WWE fans wanted to see was delayed, as Jannetty had to leave the organization for personal reasons. The feud did happen, and the two would have stellar matches trading the Intercontinental Championship in 1993, but Shawn would be moved to the World Heavyweight Title Picture, and Marty would be entrenched at a different place in the card.

Shawn Michaels would go on to become a multi time Heavyweight Champion, and though Jannetty’s championship resume would not be as good, he was still delivering high quality matches in singles and tags. Like many wrestlers, Marty has been the victim of excesses which may have prevented from achieving the level of success that me have, but despite the mistakes he has made, Marty blames nobody but himself and always takes full responsibility for his actions. Regardless, the accomplishments he does have in the world of Professional Wrestling is still the envy of the vast majority of wrestlers who have ever laced up the boots and it is a career that should be celebrated.

In talking with Marty Jannetty, I had the opportunity to talk to a man who is purely a class act and loves what he does. If only we could all be so passionate about our choices of careers.

I had some questions prepared, but I added a few after spending some time on your official Facebook page.

“Uh oh! (Laughs) You know, one of the biggest things that wrestlers go through is when you are getting into character is separating it from who you are. For me, as the “Rocker” it was great, because it was natural for me. But at the same time, I still have to keep a little bit of a difference from what I put out to the public (on the Facebook page) and who I really am.

That is what Vince McMahon is so good at. Basically, the best characters are a magnification of what the actual is. Just turn the volume up on what the personality is, and crank it real high. For me, there is not much of a difference between the two, and sometimes I forget that! (Laughs). When I go online I feel like I have to turn the volume up on my actual personality up a bit. The biggest thing is that when you use your own name it makes it even harder. Like, if I was “Jammin” Jones or something like that, than it is a lot easier to remember that I am being a character right now. When you are using your own name, like I do, you feel more self-conscious of it.”

“Jammin” Jones would never be Intercontinental Champion!

“Jammin’ Jones could have been the World Champion! (Laughs). With the Facebook thing, there is an image I want to present, living the whole Rock and Roll lifestyle. I always have to remind people in my personal life that not everything you read on there is how it is.”

You have been around a long time; you broke in during the mid-80’s during the kayfabe era and during the height of the Apter Magazines, where pretend interviews were done for you. Do you find it more comfortable in this era where you and I can have a conversation like this?

“Yes and no. There are certainly pros and cons to both sides. Many younger wrestlers today don’t even know what kayfabe means. What I don’t like is that some of the guys go all out, revealing everything that we do. Most people already know that we are not out there really beating the hell out of each other.

However take the series, Tough Enough. That show tells you everything about our business, and I actually thought it was a great. A lot of people (in our business) didn’t like it; mostly the veterans and other guys my age or older. They viewed it as an expose. Yet, at the same time when they did that all of the doctors and lawyers who were too smart to follow wrestling would look at this show and say ‘yeah, it is a show, but look at the beating they are taking’. It was right to be called Tough Enough, because it showed how tough you had to be to do what we do. It showed the commitment you have to give to wrestling and the beatings you take before you even get to wrestle on TV. I think that gave us an audience from people who would look at our business and say ‘that stuff aint real’. It eliminated that as a reason not to respect what we do.

Now that being said, what I don’t like about it is that now the mystery is gone. It is like magicians, we know it is a magic trick and we wonder ‘wow, how did pull a rabbit out of his rear end’, but if they tell you how they do it all, it ruins it all.”

It could, but sticking with the magician analogy: Penn & Teller are the most successful magicians now, and they made a career out of showing everyone just how they do the tricks, and it has not hurt the business that much. People still like to see magicians.

“Yeah, that can be true. One of the funniest things for us, especially back a few years before we unveiled the curtain, would be when you get someone (a fan) who would argue that ‘you couldn’t do those moves without killing each other’ and after listening this over and over you would say back to the guy ‘yeah, you’re right, it’s just show’. Every time that fan would than say ‘yeah, but it was real when you did this move!’ (laughs).

I just think, and this is my personal opinion that as much as we peel everything back, wrestling just isn’t going away. I do think it is a lot more fun for us and for the fans when everything is not revealed. I like the mystique about it. We are like magicians, only we use the human body as props.”

Recently, you made a statement on your Facebook page, and I am wondering if I can get you to elaborate more on it. You were speaking about how the WWE was spending a lot of money on drug related rehab, but not for those who have had degenerative injuries caused by their time there. I know that this is a topic that inadvertently connected us through the work I am trying to do with Wrestler’s Rescue.

“I will say this; this is the big part of why I agreed to do this interview. Especially helping out Jimmy Snuka who is a great friend of mine, and who I think is a great person. He has given his life, mind, body and soul to this business. He was Hulk Hogan before Hulk Hogan. He is still out there doing it, and he still loves it. I am glad that this interview will help him, and you know I am getting banged up myself.

We are very glad to be helping out Wrestler’s Rescue. I guess it is related to the link you posted on Facebook.

“You are referring to the interview in 2004, where the interviewer was pointing the finger at Vince McMahon, where he asked if he felt that all these deaths are on your hands. I know that I have lost a lot of my friends. Understand, that it is a different bond that we have than any other industry. Whoever you are working with, you are going out there in front of thousands of screaming fans who want to go out there and be entertained. You have to go out there and make them suspend their disbelief. For the most part, you are out there giving each other your bodies. We are throwing each other around, but do are best not to hurt each other because we have to go out and do it again the next night, and the night after that and the night after that. Especially when we were on the road 300 days a year, and a lot of those were double shot days. I can’t do that now at 50, but I look back and wonder ‘how the hell did I do that?’

A lot of people want to blame Vince, and a lot of the boys are mad at me for defending Vince on this. From my standpoint we all chose to do this. When Shawn and I got in to the WWF, the veterans told us ‘you all need to slow down and to save the good stuff for TV’. We went all out every night. Randy Savage told us all the time ‘Brother, save some of that! I know you’re young and love getting out there, but don’t shorten your career.’ All the veterans told us to pick our spots to do the high flying. They told us we wouldn’t be able to walk when we turned 40. When you’re 25, you say you will worry about it then. Problem is, it came! (laughs)

Now about defending Vince; I don’t know how he treated other people, but I imagine it was close to the same as me. Understand, I was not one of those role models, because I was not one of those individuals who did everything by the book. Hell, I was a Rocker! I had to go out, I had to be crazy! If Vince saw me or Shawn limping around he would tell us to take some time off. He told us that us at 70 percent are better than most of the guys at 100, but he said he wanted us at our best. He would offer that to us. A lot of guys would say that Vince kept us on the road. He didn’t make anybody do anything. Vince even suggested to me to take time off. But the money was so good and for myself being single? Hell, I never wanted to be off the road. Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll? That was the real deal for me! I got to party around the country and do my work, which I loved. I still love it now, even though my ankles are killing me. I still love performing. Making those people happy, even for a short time, gives your life meaning. I am sure a lot of the guys feel that way”

Do you think then that the WWE should be looking to help people in situations like yourself? I am referring to your ankles that you mentioned, or others who have chronic injuries from their time in a WWE ring. Should they do this as opposed to helping those who suffered from recreational drug abuse?

“You are talking about recreational drug use?”

Yes. You look at football players where it has been documented that they have a shorter lifespan than other athletes. Wrestlers are very much in the same category; only many are taking a bigger pounding for a longer period of time. So should there be a physical rehab program for wrestlers?

“I think so. It is really hard for me to say, because I am not the person in charge of something like that. But I think that if someone is working for a company full time, especially with the money that is involved if we are talking straight WWE….I may be getting myself in trouble saying this, but in my opinion; and it is just that one goofy Rock and Rollers opinion; if you pretty much committed your life to working for that company for a period of time than the answer is yes. You are going to get hurt wrestling. Every match is at least a bruise. There are fractures and breaks, and often you work through it.

I had a broken ankle from a show in L.A. from Bam Bam Bigelow. He rolled across my ankle and it caused it move inwards and snapped it. It was one of those situations where I didn’t want to miss the following four to five days. They were major towns, major money and major parties! (laughs) I chose to wrap the hell out of it and took some pain medication. Pain medication; that seems to be the big deal. Not just with us, but with celebrities in general. It is hard for us to go out and perform at the level expected of you when every step you take, feels like you are stepping on an ice pick. You have to do something to curb that. The adrenaline will cover some once you’re out there but once it wears off you wind up feeling way worse.

I’ll tell you what’s confusing to me. Why does the WWE spend money on those who did stuff recreationally, which was there choice, basically take care of anyone who needs rehab. I’ll use Scott Hall as an example. He is a friend, but it is out there, it was on ESPN, so it is no secret. From what I understand, he has been in and out of rehab ten times. That was from the partying and choices made that had nothing to do with what was work related. Using myself as an example, I have asked them (WWE) if there is anything that can be done about my ankles. I have to take a lot of pain medication for it; way more than what is an average dose. Really, no more than anyone else who is in full contact sports. We all (wrestlers) have a very high threshold of pain to begin with and we are in good condition. We can handle more than most. Where one person can take a Vicodin and have the pain go away, a highly trained professional athlete has to take four or five times that dosage, and that is where you are getting into a danger zone. If I’m trying to take care of everybody pain, and walking is something we take for granted and I need pain medication just for that and it is work related than the answer should be yes.

If we are talking about handling people who partied and caught up in the lifestyle and they are taken care of, but when people like myself take it (pain medication) from an actual injury we won’t get help. I did ask, but I was given an answer that was befuddling to me. I was told if we take of you than we would have to take care of everyone who has been injured.”

If I could go back in your career a bit, and to put things in context, you mentioned that you are 50. I am 40, and the first time I saw you compete was with Shawn Michaels in the AWA, and at that time I always wanted to cheer for the bad guys. I wanted to be Roddy Piper as a kid.

“I can understand that. That character was easy to want to be.”

But there were always exceptions to that rule. Ricky Steamboat was one. You and Shawn as the Midnight Rockers were another. I remember the first time I saw you both, the first thing I thought was a Rock and Roll Express knock off.

“Which it was.”

Well, Gimmick wise maybe. But I wouldn’t say that in looking back. You were both younger (than the Rock and Roll Express), you both looked more like Rock Stars and no disrespect to Robert Gibson, and he didn’t look like he would be let into any band.

“(laughs) When Shawn and I got into AWA one of the first obstacles we had to overcome was that comparison. Actually, we had to overcome that more with the boys than with the fans. Sure some fans said that we were ripping them off. Also there was the Midnight Express at the time, which had a hell of a feud with the Rock and Roll Express. So now here comes the Midnight Rockers! Just took a bit of both their names! Also we had the Rock and Roll look, like the Rock and Roll Express.

Now if you look at Shawn at the beginning, he didn’t look the part. For me, when I was thirteen, high school wrestling it was frustrating for me because I couldn’t have long hair when I wrestled. I hated it, because even back then I already had that Rocker thing going on. When we first got together and were going to be that Rocker type team, Shawn had some short hair! I was wearing earrings and was doing that stuff already and Shawn at that time was a white meat, pure, clean cut, babyface. He was an All American kid! He got with it, and as you can see he really got with it! He surpassed my ass! (laughs)”

So did you find many people want to boo you at first? I know that in my case, I wanted too, but talent wise I couldn’t help but respect you and cheer for you.

“That was what got everyone else looking at us as rip-offs. I love Ricky and Robert to death, but our styles are very different. Shawn and I came up with a lot of new stuff too. I think we knew we made it when we saw ourselves in a magazine article. You would always grab the magazines, hoping to see your name; especially if you were new. I’ll never forget when Shawn and I were in a magazine store looking through them (wrestling magazines) and I heard Shawn scream out “Hey, we did it, we did it!” He was so excited that everyone was looking at him. It was a whole article about us titled “The Midnight Rockers: From Imitators to Innovators”. It was great. It showed how we broke out of the copycat thing. It was motivation for us to even do more.”

A few years ago there was a feud in the WWE between The Miz and John Morrison, and they did an angle which I thought was really disrespectful to you.

“I know what you are talking about. I dealt with that from the fans and my family. I had to tell them often that it was ok.”

I know that as a fan it bothered me. 99.9 percent of wrestlers will never be WWE World Tag Team Champion, WWE Intercontinental Champion, compete on numerous Pay Per Views and compete in the biggest wrestling organization in the world for many years. For them to make you out to be a punch line in an angle, I thought really disrespected you.

“Right. I think a lot of the boys who were there at the time would say that a lot of the early success that Shawn had, I had a lot to do with. The Rockers were considered one of the best teams that have been around and I was a part of that. The Road Warriors came out and they changed tag teams to big, strong pummeling teams. Shawn and I made the change to high flying smaller guys. When we first got to the WWE, the next closest guys in size were twenty pounds heavier. We were like midgets in there. Davey Boy Smith used to call us ‘Hey midgets, you’re up next!’ With our high flying, fast pace and high energy, we were able to create something special. To have been a part of it, and to have been a big part of it and to have become a punch line like you said…yeah it did bother me. But at the same time you got a choice. You can let it upset you or find the positive out of it. The positive I find out of it is, do you know how many tag teams there have been in this industry? If you are still mentioned in any light twenty years after you break up, you must have done something right. You had to have made an impact. I still get booked worldwide. I just won the German Heavyweight Championship a month ago.”

You are often referred to by other wrestlers as one of the funniest guys in the business.

“I like to cut up. It’s one of the reasons I stay in this industry. I get to stay young. I love having fun, and this industry was made for that. It makes you feel young forever. You get to be a kid forever.”

Was there ever then talk about bringing out your sarcasm to your character. Basically, was there ever talk of turning you full blown heel and really showcasing this side of your personality? I know you were with the New Rockers.

“Well, the New Rockers was a silly heel team. It was an experience there, and a real learning experience. We were supposed to be heels who were stuck in the 80’s. Silly and goofy won’t make people hate you.”

You might be right because at that point in time, the New Rockers were my favorite tag team. I always thought that they could have been something more though. As it was in 1996 (when the New Rockers were in the WWE), five years after the Alternative Music scene wiped out the Hair Metal/Fun Party Rock music from the radio, I thought it would have been a natural backlash from the fans towards the two of you, almost based on the music you indirectly represented. It almost felt like they (the WWE) didn’t know what to do with you two.

“That was actually what it was. Al (Snow) is one of the best minds in the business, and he was the perfect guy to do Tough Enough; of course Steve (Austin) does well with it now. Al is just a great person. When we teamed, we rode together just like Shawn and I used to do. We would go over and reevaluate all the matches we had. We just were completely confused. Whatever direction we were told to do (by management) we did and we thought we had it just about right, they would say the opposite. Basically, when we got to a point where the fans were getting it, they would say, ‘no you got to be tougher, got to be meaner, etc’.

Al’s deal in the team was so supposed to be so goofy with it, and I would be like ‘no, that’s not it’, and have to teach him what being a Rocker was. I would be embarrassed by him, and try to play it down. It started working, and then we were asked to be more hardcore, so we went that route. As soon as we did, and thought we got it to the point where it was working, we were told we were going too far with it. It took six months before Al finally pulled me aside after we were getting the ‘that aint it’ speech. I forget what reason they gave us this time. I said to Al “What the hell do they want from us’, and he just looked at me responded ‘Marty, they don’t want this getting over’. Until he said it, it never really dawned on me. The moment he said that, it made sense. They wanted us to be in a certain position, and if we outshined anyone else we would get pushed back. If you are mid-card, they don’t want you outshining the top of the card; not to say we were doing that, but you know what I’m saying. They knew what level they wanted us to be at, and if we were to rise above it, they would put us back down.’

I guess I can’t understand why they wouldn’t want everyone to get over. In theory, two years later during the Attitude Era, virtually the entire roster was over.

“That was like when Shawn and I first got to the WWE. We were amazed how no matter who it was from opening match on how the people would react as soon as they heard their music. Then another pop when they stepped through the curtain. Everybody was a star.”

In terms of the WWE Hall of Fame, we have you ranked as one of the people who should be considered.

“Thanks, I appreciate that.”

It’s well earned. I can’t speak for everyone else on the site, but I think personally that you are one of the most underrated wrestlers ever, and one of the top guys who ever performed. Now, they have inducted the Four Horsemen to the WWE Hall of Fame. Do you think it is possible that you could be inducted as a solo or with Shawn as the Rockers? Even though, you never won the WWF Tag Team Titles you really didn’t need it.

“That was always a big thing we were told. A lot of people need the belts to get over, but we were always told we didn’t need it. Of course we always thought that if we got it, wouldn’t that raise us even higher?”

There is something true to that. Here we are twenty years later and the Rockers are more iconic and influential than many of the teams that did win the Tag Titles.

“Right. To answer what you originally asked about the Hall of Fame; I thought that at one point it might happen; actually a few of us did. With Shawn, we knew he was going to get into the Hall, which he eventually did. I was out of the picture for so many years. I came back and did that thing with the Miz, did that think with Kennedy, did that thing with Kurt Angle, and yeah they were all a year apart, but really I was out of the picture. Anyone of those years, yeah, I think we (The Rockers) could have been considered for the Hall of Fame. Shawn is one of the best wrestlers ever. A few of the wrestlers though, including me, figured that when he retired he would go into the Hall of Fame, and then maybe the following year, or shortly after that Shawn and I would be inducted as a team, which would make him the only person as far as I know to be inducted twice.”

Ric Flair just got in with the Four Horsemen.

“Oh yes, that’s true. Uh Oh! That should make Shawn mad! (laughs) Well, Shawn had to go in first, and you never know, maybe it can still happen. As for myself, yeah I was Intercontinental Champion, but I am more thought of as a tag team wrestler. I did become Tag Team Champion, but that was with the 1-2-3 Kid. I teamed with Bob Holly, I teamed with Scott Hall. At one point all the wrestlers wanted to tag with me, they said my nickname should be ‘springboard’. All the wrestlers I teamed with sprung up to the top! Shawn went to the top. Al Snow went to the top of the Hardcore Division. X-Pac did with D-X. Even Bob Holly, was elevated later with ‘Hardcore’. I have to use that for my wrestling schools! It was funny, but a little bit of an ‘ouch’ being called Springboard.”

Springboard is better than Stepping Stone!

“Yeah, there you go!”

So what is next on the horizon for Marty Jannetty? What are you working on now?

“I’ve got a book that is three quarters of the way done. I hope to have it done by summer, and hopefully it will be out by the end of the year. I am also working on putting a couple of wrestling schools together. I am still out there doing the thing in the ring, so to promoters across the country contact me on Facebook and Twitter at 1MartyJannetty.”

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Reply #18 posted 04/17/12 3:21pm

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Smackdown Spoilers (to be aired on 4/20):

* Michael Cole and Booker T are out for commentary. Lilian Garcia comes down to sing God Save the Queen and trips coming down the ramp. A six-man match with Mark Henry, Cody Rhodes and Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton, Sheamus and The Great Khali is announced, possibly the dark main event.

* Daniel Bryan opens the show to lots of YES chants. He says Sheamus cheated to win the World Heavyweight Title and talks about how he will win it back at Extreme Rules. AJ Lee comes out and Bryan tells her to leave but she won't. She wants to talk about their problems but he says she was the problem. Bryan wishes AJ was never born and says he will never take her back. He leaves her in the ring to cry.

* Natalya vs. AJ is up next. AJ takes out all her rage on Natalya in the corner and gets disqualified, still crying.

* Big Show vs. Alberto Del Rio is advertised for later.

* A Damien Sandow promo airs.

* Hunico and Camacho come out next. Brodus Clay comes out with Hornswoggle. Hornswoggle is dressed like Brodus. Brodus gets the quick win.

* Backstage segment with Teddy Long, Darren Young and Titus O'Neil. Laurinaitis walks in and makes a joke of Teddy before leaving.

* Matt Striker is backstage with Randy Orton, who gets a big pop. Orton says his dad is fine after the attack last week and talks about Extreme Rules. Orton says Kane will see just how sick and twisted he can be.

* The Usos vs. Titus O'Neil and Darren Young is next. Young and O'Neil get the win after a Hart Attack combo move out of the corner.

* Alberto Del Rio vs. Big Show is up next. Cody Rhodes interferes and hits a Disaster kick on Show, allowing Del Rio to get the win. Cody attacks Show after the match but just pisses him off. Show chases Cody off through the crowd.

* Ryback gets the squash win over local talent James Lerman.

* Backstage Teddy Long is dressed as a Queen's Guard and other Superstars mock him. Laurinaitis comes out of his office and welcomes Antonio Cesaro into his office.

* Six-man main event time. Daniel Bryan is out first followed by Mark Henry and then Cody Rhodes. Sheamus comes out next to a big pop. Orton is out next and The Great Khali. Cody interrupts Khali's entrance and takes out his knee, injuring him. Khali is helped to the back but Big Show comes out as his replacement. Cody isn't happy but starts the match against Orton. The end comes when Show hits the knockout punch on Cody and then the KO punch on Henry. Orton RKO's Henry for the win.

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Reply #19 posted 04/18/12 8:01am

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This Foley/Ambrose feud is really starting to get interesting....

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AN ANSWER FOR AMBROSE

Let me state for the record that I have only spoken to FCW prospect Dean Ambrose on three different occasions. Following his match on a WWE house show on Long Island, I went out of my way to tell him I had enjoyed his match. The skills and unique qualities qualities he posseses might very well make him a force to be reckoned with somewhere down the line. He has supporters in lofty places who feel he might be a huge asset to WWE for a decade or more in the future. I'm also told that his interviews ( "promos" as we call them) are compelling, intelligent and emotional; every bit as good as the top guys in WWE.

My second conversation with Mr Ambrose got quite a bit of attention. I know there has been alot of speculation as to the nature of this conversation. To me, it was whatever anyone wanted it to be; a shoot, a work, or somewhare in the middle - as almost all compelling pieces in sports-entertainment ultimately are.

I'm far more concerned with my third conversation with the guy. Look, Ive been accused from time to time of taking some things in the business a little too seriously. Maybe I do. But like that sailor-man of old, "I am what I am, and that's all that I am." After all these years, there are some things that just bother me. Remember that "Cane Dewey" promo from 1995 that so many are still fond of? It actually came from a very heavy place in my heart, when my wife impressed on me just how sick it was for any fan to be making a sign advocating the beating (even in jest) of my 3 year-old child.

That's the immediate feeling I got when I actually read the Dean Ambrose tweet that mentioned his dream to seeing me no longer able to make a dime in the wrestling business - with a particularly nasty mention of how he wanted to see my home repossesed and my children starved. Maybe the 1995 Cactus Jack would have cut a promo on the guy. The 2102 Mick Foley just wonders what would make something say something so stupid, heartless and ignorant. I felt Dean Ambrose had crossed a line that shouldn't be crossed, so took the opportunity before the Hampton, Virginia Smackdown to ask/tell him to please stop crossing a line that I wasn't comfortable with. Ric Flair had once asked a similar consideration of me before a memorable promo we shared in New Jersey in 2006. Of course I honored his request. Ours is a business built on trust and respect. I thought Dean Ambrose understood this. But less than a day after making my request, I saw that my children were once again the subject of his tweets - a reference to how I might feel differently about something if my children were in wheel-chairs. Maybe I would have cut a heck of a promo about it in 1995. Seventeen years later, I just wanted to get the fuck away from the whole scenario. It's not fun, it's not cutting edge. It just sucks.

Sports-entertainment has to involve a certain ammount of respect and trust. It's pretty obvious Dean Ambrose doesn't have any respect for me, my requests, or what I have done in the wrestling business. Therefore I can't place the slightest ammount of trust in him. Has anyone wondered if I'm feeling better following the concussion I spoke of in that December 2010 TNA Impact promo with Flair? I'm not feeling too much better. I tend to have two types of days when it comes to that muted, under-water feeling I spoke of in that promo - bad and worse. I'm just not the same guy who took 11 chair shots from the Rock in 1999. I haven't been that guy in a long time. Given my history of concussions, I would have to be a fool to place my future in the hands of someone I don't trust. Perhaps I do have another decent match left in me. If so, it will be with a guy like Dolph Ziggler, who might well be the best worker in the business, and just needs that ONE little something to allow the WWE Universe to see how talented he really is. Or a guy like the Miz - one of the best heels of this generation. Say what you want to about Miz, but the guy is damn good at what he does.

But Dean Ambrose? No. I may not have the power I once did in the business, but I still have the power to say no to things that just flat-out seem wrong. Like trying to put Dean Ambrose on the WWE map. A few weeks ago, it seemed like an interesting challenge. Now, it seems like an insult. A few weeks ago, it seemed like cutting-edge stuff. Now it just seems like bullshit. He is a very good talent. He has those supporters in high places. Let them wrestle him. Maybe they can put him on the WWE map. Good luck.

It's tough to get over in WWE. I certainly wouldn't want to be one of the young guys facing someone like Skip Sheffield, knowing that the priority placed on getting over will be somewhat higher than looking out for the well-being of an opponent. I'm not picking on Skip, either; I like him, think he has a wold of potential, and he has personally shown me nothing but respect. But that clothesline on that kid in Hampton, Virginia? To quote one of my idols, Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka - "Not tonight, bruddah!" I went through that with The Dynamite Kid in 1986, when I was 21 years old. I willingly did it then. I did it at 25. I did it at 30. I did it at 34. I came back and did it at 38, and 40, and so on and so forth. I refuse do it at 46...almost 47. Especially not for Dean Ambrose.


[Edited 4/18/12 8:02am]

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Reply #20 posted 04/18/12 8:06am

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- Fans in attendance at Tuesday's SmackDown tapings in London, England report that WWE crew members were trying to get fans to stop chanting "YES!"

- As recent as last week, WWE officials were reportedly considering David Otunga for a run with the United States Title. The plan was to take the belt off Santino Marella after WrestleMania 28 and some within the company are surprised that he hasn't lost it yet.

source: F4WOnline

They hatin' on our boy Bryan, L4OA!!! They never tried to stop the crowd from chanting "WHAT!" when Stone Cold was hot (and even now)!

And, giving Otunga a run with the US Title?? Oh God no!! Well, now that I think about it, they've given it to other undeserving people, so why not him? That belt HAD such a prestigious legacy, too. disbelief

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They LOVE making fun of Lilian. disbelief Be A Star, indeed. rolleyes

Her latest "fall" starts at 0:50.

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Reply #22 posted 04/18/12 12:12pm

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L4OA, you can't tell me she ain't hot, son!!!!!

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Reply #23 posted 04/18/12 1:17pm

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This Foley/Ambrose feud is really starting to get interesting....

http://mickfoley.typepad.com/

AN ANSWER FOR AMBROSE

Let me state for the record that I have only spoken to FCW prospect Dean Ambrose on three different occasions. Following his match on a WWE house show on Long Island, I went out of my way to tell him I had enjoyed his match. The skills and unique qualities qualities he posseses might very well make him a force to be reckoned with somewhere down the line. He has supporters in lofty places who feel he might be a huge asset to WWE for a decade or more in the future. I'm also told that his interviews ( "promos" as we call them) are compelling, intelligent and emotional; every bit as good as the top guys in WWE.

My second conversation with Mr Ambrose got quite a bit of attention. I know there has been alot of speculation as to the nature of this conversation. To me, it was whatever anyone wanted it to be; a shoot, a work, or somewhare in the middle - as almost all compelling pieces in sports-entertainment ultimately are.

I'm far more concerned with my third conversation with the guy. Look, Ive been accused from time to time of taking some things in the business a little too seriously. Maybe I do. But like that sailor-man of old, "I am what I am, and that's all that I am." After all these years, there are some things that just bother me. Remember that "Cane Dewey" promo from 1995 that so many are still fond of? It actually came from a very heavy place in my heart, when my wife impressed on me just how sick it was for any fan to be making a sign advocating the beating (even in jest) of my 3 year-old child.

That's the immediate feeling I got when I actually read the Dean Ambrose tweet that mentioned his dream to seeing me no longer able to make a dime in the wrestling business - with a particularly nasty mention of how he wanted to see my home repossesed and my children starved. Maybe the 1995 Cactus Jack would have cut a promo on the guy. The 2102 Mick Foley just wonders what would make something say something so stupid, heartless and ignorant. I felt Dean Ambrose had crossed a line that shouldn't be crossed, so took the opportunity before the Hampton, Virginia Smackdown to ask/tell him to please stop crossing a line that I wasn't comfortable with. Ric Flair had once asked a similar consideration of me before a memorable promo we shared in New Jersey in 2006. Of course I honored his request. Ours is a business built on trust and respect. I thought Dean Ambrose understood this. But less than a day after making my request, I saw that my children were once again the subject of his tweets - a reference to how I might feel differently about something if my children were in wheel-chairs. Maybe I would have cut a heck of a promo about it in 1995. Seventeen years later, I just wanted to get the fuck away from the whole scenario. It's not fun, it's not cutting edge. It just sucks.

Sports-entertainment has to involve a certain ammount of respect and trust. It's pretty obvious Dean Ambrose doesn't have any respect for me, my requests, or what I have done in the wrestling business. Therefore I can't place the slightest ammount of trust in him. Has anyone wondered if I'm feeling better following the concussion I spoke of in that December 2010 TNA Impact promo with Flair? I'm not feeling too much better. I tend to have two types of days when it comes to that muted, under-water feeling I spoke of in that promo - bad and worse. I'm just not the same guy who took 11 chair shots from the Rock in 1999. I haven't been that guy in a long time. Given my history of concussions, I would have to be a fool to place my future in the hands of someone I don't trust. Perhaps I do have another decent match left in me. If so, it will be with a guy like Dolph Ziggler, who might well be the best worker in the business, and just needs that ONE little something to allow the WWE Universe to see how talented he really is. Or a guy like the Miz - one of the best heels of this generation. Say what you want to about Miz, but the guy is damn good at what he does.

But Dean Ambrose? No. I may not have the power I once did in the business, but I still have the power to say no to things that just flat-out seem wrong. Like trying to put Dean Ambrose on the WWE map. A few weeks ago, it seemed like an interesting challenge. Now, it seems like an insult. A few weeks ago, it seemed like cutting-edge stuff. Now it just seems like bullshit. He is a very good talent. He has those supporters in high places. Let them wrestle him. Maybe they can put him on the WWE map. Good luck.

It's tough to get over in WWE. I certainly wouldn't want to be one of the young guys facing someone like Skip Sheffield, knowing that the priority placed on getting over will be somewhat higher than looking out for the well-being of an opponent. I'm not picking on Skip, either; I like him, think he has a wold of potential, and he has personally shown me nothing but respect. But that clothesline on that kid in Hampton, Virginia? To quote one of my idols, Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka - "Not tonight, bruddah!" I went through that with The Dynamite Kid in 1986, when I was 21 years old. I willingly did it then. I did it at 25. I did it at 30. I did it at 34. I came back and did it at 38, and 40, and so on and so forth. I refuse do it at 46...almost 47. Especially not for Dean Ambrose.


[Edited 4/18/12 8:02am]

just more further proof that tweeting is dumb

wait did michael cole just say that my post #tweetingisdumb is trending?

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #24 posted 04/18/12 1:22pm

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- Fans in attendance at Tuesday's SmackDown tapings in London, England report that WWE crew members were trying to get fans to stop chanting "YES!"

- As recent as last week, WWE officials were reportedly considering David Otunga for a run with the United States Title. The plan was to take the belt off Santino Marella after WrestleMania 28 and some within the company are surprised that he hasn't lost it yet.

source: F4WOnline

They hatin' on our boy Bryan, L4OA!!! They never tried to stop the crowd from chanting "WHAT!" when Stone Cold was hot (and even now)!

And, giving Otunga a run with the US Title?? Oh God no!! Well, now that I think about it, they've given it to other undeserving people, so why not him? That belt HAD such a prestigious legacy, too. disbelief

THEY WILL NOT STOP ME FROM SAYING

YES! *CENA GOT PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH*

YES! *ORTON GOT PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH*

YES! *THE WORD WRESTLING INSTEAD OF SUPERSTARS IS BEING SAID*

YES! *THE DIVAS ARE WORSE THAN THE KNOCKOUTS*

YES! *ALEX IS STILL MAD THAT MY STELLA'S ARE BETTER THAN HIS*

YES! YES! YES! YES!

as 4 the otunga thing, can't be any worse than santino having it imo

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #25 posted 04/18/12 1:31pm

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L4OA, you can't tell me she ain't hot, son!!!!!

but i know u like hoeski's son! so of course she's hot 2 ur liking

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #26 posted 04/18/12 3:29pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:



alexnvrmnd777 said:




- Fans in attendance at Tuesday's SmackDown tapings in London, England report that WWE crew members were trying to get fans to stop chanting "YES!"



- As recent as last week, WWE officials were reportedly considering David Otunga for a run with the United States Title. The plan was to take the belt off Santino Marella after WrestleMania 28 and some within the company are surprised that he hasn't lost it yet.



source: F4WOnline




They hatin' on our boy Bryan, L4OA!!! They never tried to stop the crowd from chanting "WHAT!" when Stone Cold was hot (and even now)!



And, giving Otunga a run with the US Title?? Oh God no!! Well, now that I think about it, they've given it to other undeserving people, so why not him? That belt HAD such a prestigious legacy, too. disbelief




THEY WILL NOT STOP ME FROM SAYING


YES! *CENA GOT PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH*


YES! *ORTON GOT PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH*


YES! *THE WORD WRESTLING INSTEAD OF SUPERSTARS IS BEING SAID*


YES! *THE DIVAS ARE WORSE THAN THE KNOCKOUTS*


YES! *ALEX IS STILL MAD THAT MY STELLA'S ARE BETTER THAN HIS*


YES! YES! YES! YES!



as 4 the otunga thing, can't be any worse than santino having it imo



YES! *L4OA MUST BE HITTIN' THE CRACK PIPE TO THINK HIS ODB IS BETTER THAN MY MISS TESSMACHER!!
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alexnvrmnd777 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

THEY WILL NOT STOP ME FROM SAYING

YES! *CENA GOT PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH*

YES! *ORTON GOT PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH*

YES! *THE WORD WRESTLING INSTEAD OF SUPERSTARS IS BEING SAID*

YES! *THE DIVAS ARE WORSE THAN THE KNOCKOUTS*

YES! *ALEX IS STILL MAD THAT MY STELLA'S ARE BETTER THAN HIS*

YES! YES! YES! YES!

as 4 the otunga thing, can't be any worse than santino having it imo

YES! *L4OA MUST BE HITTIN' THE CRACK PIPE TO THINK HIS ODB IS BETTER THAN MY MISS TESSMACHER!!

YES! *ALEX IS FINALLY GONNA GO GET HIS HEAD EXAMINED CAUSE HE'S DAYDREAMING ONCE AGAIN*

YES!

YES!

YES!

YES!

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #28 posted 04/19/12 7:43pm

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Recently, Roddy Piper was interviewed by The Score's Arda Ocal and discussed a couple of his most memorable WrestleMania moments. One of the moments that Piper discussed at length was his feud with Bad News Brown at WrestleMania VI, which saw Piper cutting a promo and wrestling the match with half of his body painted black. Here are the highlights:

On painting himself half-Black for WrestleMania VI: "First of all, you know, I was born in Saskatoon. There are no Black people that I know of that are dumb enough to go to a place that cold. [Laughs.] So, there's no racism in me at all.

"At the time, I was walking down the hall of some arena. Maybe the Hoosier Dome -- some place. I'm not sure. Vince McMahon says, 'Hot Rod, I need to speak with you.' I walked into a room and you could have cut the air with a knife. It was Bad News Brown, Pat Patterson and Vince McMahon. I said, 'What's going on?' He says, 'I want you to wrestle Bad News Brown at [WrestleMania VI].

"I'm looking at Bad News, who was a really good judo player and just a so-so professional wrestler. And here's what's going through my mind. I'm looking at him and I'm going, 'I'm going to have 45 interviews about this guy.' And I'm thinking Nelson Mandela at that time had said something that really stuck with me.

"Nelson Mandela was put in jail for 20-some years for political crimes. Every morning, he was the first man when the guard came to extend his hand to the guard. What a hell of a man. At the same time, Cindy Lauper had 'True Colors' out. In my mind, what I was trying to do -- there is no difference. I needed material on Bad News Brown. I did something where I sang 'True Colors' and I did a thing about Nelson Mandela. But, they don't seem to remember that. [Laughs.] The thing I didn't do so well was when I came down, I pretended to be Michael Jackson. I don't quite dance like Michael does, I guess. [Laughs.]

"So, [I got] just about the same reaction from you as I came out. Nothing. So, I had the match. I came back and the stuff they had painted me with, Vince had made special. So, when I broke a sweat, it wouldn't come off. There was a special clear solution to take this special black off. When I got there, the lady started rubbing my cheeks and in about five minutes, I started bleeding. Andre The Giant had taken that solution, poured it out and put water in it.

"Now, I'm in Toronto, half-Black. I decided that's there nothing much to do other than to go out drinking. So, I go and I'm drinking and I'm half-Black in the bar. Next morning -- and don't judge me -- I wake up and the door of my hotel room is blown completely off and there's a cowboy hat in the middle of my room. I don't know who's. [Laughs.] I wake up and I'm half Black. I got to go from Toronto to Portland, Oregon. I got a four foot Mickey Mouse with me that I bought for my daughter.

"So, because I didn't know -- I put the hat on, and I've got a four foot Mickey Mouse, a Halliburton and a hang over. And I'm half Black. ... I'm completely half black other than the scar under my eye. So, I'm going through Chicago and I'm going through customs. When you're half black and half white, they just go, 'Go right ahead.' They part like the Nile. In Chicago, I had to change planes and the flight attendant -- that I later called waitress, which really gets over -- wanted me to check Mickey because it was too big. So, I bought Mickey a first class seat and me and Mickey drank all the way to Portland, Oregon.

"The way I got it off was that I had to sit in the sauna. Took me about a month of rubbing this stuff off. But, what am I going to do? Go beat up Andre? [Laughs.] But the reason I painted myself half Black was more the meshing. I did the Nelson Mandela, I did the 'True Colors'. Bad News Brown didn't take it that way. So, I'm glad you asked me."

Yeah, he didn't grow up around any black people, so there's just NO way he could be a racist. rolleyes Boy, that was a dumb statement.

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Beautiful day in Las Vegas. Another great CAC function has come and gone.

Before we get to that take note that WWEShop.com is offering 20% off JR'S products at http://www.wweshop.com/Ca...y/JimRoss.

Gold Coast hotel was once again the site of the Cauliflower Alley Club annual gathering. CAC is an amazing organization that does a great deal of charitable work within the business and was formed in 1965.

For more info on CAC visit their website at http://www.caulifloweralleyclub.org.

Steve Austin received the group's highest award named after the founder of the organization, Iron Mike Mazurki, a former wrestler and successful actor. I was fortunate enough to be asked by Steve to induct him. He had a great speech and offered sage advice to many of the young wrestlers who were in attendance.

Loved hearing Ricky Steamboat's stories of breaking into the biz in AWA, personal memories of Lou Thesz, working in Mid Atlantic Wrestling, his rivalry w/ Ric Flair, and so much more. Sgt Slaughter introduced the Dragon who received the Lou Thesz Award.

Bill DeMott, Wendi Richter, Ivory, Judy Martin, all received awards. Each was very deserving.

Good seeing, among many others, Dick 'The Destroyer' Beyer, Paul Bearer, Kharma, Ted DiBiase, Dark Journey, who I had not seen in over 20 years, Stacey 'The Kat' Carter, Paul Vachon, Mondo Guerrero, Ross Hart, Mil Mascaras, many of the GLOW girls, JJ Dillon, and Terry Funk among others. I'd suggest all fans join CAC and that young, Indy wrestlers attend the event to pick the brains of some of the greats of the game. Really proud of the WWE Supertars for putting together an amazing string of outstanding events on the current International tour.

Can't wait to get back to Tampa next week to work with the young men and women in FCW. It never fails to be a rewarding experience. Thought the Brock Lesnar piece on RAW was excellent.

I'm very anxious to see how he competes vs John Cena at the Extreme Rules PPV. Fighting in the Octagon for UFC is a much different animal than performing in a WWE ring. Lesnar is a gifted athlete and will likely shock us all with how well he does against Cena. This one is too close for me to call. Count on CM Punk and Chris Jericho being innovative and physical. Strong personal issue to be settled in Punk's hometown. Live crowd will be tremendous. Love the potential of Sheamus vs Daniel Bryan at Extreme Rules. These two have much to proove and will have the canvas to create some memorable art. Hope the kids who attended my seminar Tuesday enjoyed it. Sorry we couldn't get everyone in who wanted to attend. Wish we had brought some JR'S products to sell at CAC....maybe next year.

Send us your questions to the Q&A section of this site and I'll try to answer them. We're over 410,000 followers on Twitter @JRsBBQ.

Mel Gibson needs to stop leaving anyone voice mail messages. Just saying.

Why can't Lindsey Lohan stay out of bars? She's lucky she's not in jail. Love the NFL but I'm not interested in the endless talk on their schedule.

OKC Thunder really needs to attend the home court advantage in NBA playoffs. The young, talented team plays so much better at home in Oklahoma City. Arkansas should go the interim route w/ their football coaching search this season and make the desired hire for 2013...in my view. Thinking Jon 'Bones' Jones beats Rashard Evans Saturday night in Atlanta but Bones isn't untouchable. Should be a heck of a battle. Evans has done a great job selling this fight but it's too bad few TV viewers haven't seen it.

Anxious for WWE fans to see Damien Sandow in the ring. He's fundamentally sound w/ a distinctive upside. Time will tell.

Keep getting questions on the apparent Mick Foley/Dean Ambrose war of words. I have no idea where it's going if any where. Good to see so many young talents getting set to apparently get more, viable TV time. Remember guys, maximize those minutes.

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