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Thread started 02/08/12 11:17am

Graycap23

HD Blu-ray: Worth the loot?

Now that consumers have had time 2 digest HD and what it has 2 offer.

Have u switched from regular DVD's to Blu-ray?

Do u still buy DVD's now that u can download everything?

How many Bluray's do u own?

I only back action films that I really like on Blu-ray.

I own at least 1,000 dvd's but only about 30 blu-rays.

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Reply #1 posted 02/08/12 11:28am

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blu-ray is on its way out, because the way of the future is not in having physical discs, but rather digital files that play in an app. But as of right now, nothing is better quality in your home than blu-ray unless you can afford a real digital cinema projection system like a true baller.

HD is the only way for media in terms of resolution. They stopped making SD tv's, and cable tv is slowly phasing out SD programming. Even youtube can get up to 1080p now.

Even indie filmmakers are now more and more shooting in higher than HD format and then downconverting to normal 1080p HD.

As for "worth the loot?"....blu-ray players are much cheaper than what DVD players cost in the same relative time in their consumer lifecycle. Blu-ray movies are dirt cheap used on Amazon, and feature great supplemental materials. I don't think it's about the loot!

4 years into the intro of DVD players into the market, a player still cost more than $300

right now (approx 4 years into mass blu-ray consumer promotion), you can get a Sony blu-ray player for $72.

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Reply #2 posted 02/08/12 11:45am

Graycap23

ufoclub said:

blu-ray is on its way out, because the way of the future is not in having physical discs, but rather digital files that play in an app. But as of right now, nothing is better quality in your home than blu-ray unless you can afford a real digital cinema projection system like a true baller.

HD is the only way for media in terms of resolution. They stopped making SD tv's, and cable tv is slowly phasing out SD programming. Even youtube can get up to 1080p now.

Even indie filmmakers are now more and more shooting in higher than HD format and then downconverting to normal 1080p HD.

As for "worth the loot?"....blu-ray players are much cheaper than what DVD players cost in the same relative time in their consumer lifecycle. Blu-ray movies are dirt cheap used on Amazon, and feature great supplemental materials. I don't think it's about the loot!

4 years into the intro of DVD players into the market, a player still cost more than $300

right now (approx 4 years into mass blu-ray consumer promotion), you can get a Sony blu-ray player for $72.

The average new Blu-ray disk is around $30.00

There are some folks.like me who don't want digital files.

[Edited 2/8/12 11:50am]

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Reply #3 posted 02/08/12 11:59am

retina

Have u switched from regular DVD's to Blu-ray?

No, the difference in quality isn't big enough to justify the difference in price. Besides, BluRay is taking so long to replace DVDs that I'm starting to think it won't happen. Maybe it will remain alongside DVDs as an alternative for technophiles until the next thing comes along.

Do u still buy DVD's now that u can download everything?

Yes, for three reasons: I don't approve of piracy, I can find cheap DVDs everywhere (on EBay, ex-rentals etc) and I really like having the cover with artwork etc in my bookshelf.

How many Bluray's do u own?

Two or three, I think.

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Reply #4 posted 02/08/12 2:40pm

PANDURITO

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Graycap23 said:

Have u switched from regular DVD's to Blu-ray?

Yes. I don't know how you watch them but if it's in a big screen 46", 55" or bigger DVD's quality is simply horrible

Graycap23 said:

Do u still buy DVD's now that u can download everything?

No. I stopped buying vinyl the minute I started buying CDs back in 1988. Stopped buying VHS with my first DVDs and I have stopped buying DVD when I changed to Blu-ray

Graycap23 said:

How many Bluray's do u own?

About 175 so far. I started fast but HDTV (and crisis) makes it not so essential

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Reply #5 posted 02/08/12 2:45pm

nursev

I have a blu ray disc player,but only one blu ray disc lol I don't really see a big difference from regular dvd's. Waste of damn money.
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Reply #6 posted 02/08/12 3:05pm

PANDURITO

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nursev said:

I have a blu ray disc player,but only one blu ray disc lol

Wow, I had never met anyone who had as many players as discs smile

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Reply #7 posted 02/08/12 3:08pm

Deadcake

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It costs me $2.95 to rent a blu-ray disc from my local DVD rental store, the same as a regular DVD costs. For the price of cinema tickets to see ONE movie (with the whole family) I can rent 24 movies.

We saw Thor the other night, on the big TV it's spectacular.

For the 32" TV in the bedroom any old DVD or .avi looks fine, blu-ray not justified on such a small TV. If I'm watching a drama or comedy I'll choose normal DVD to watch in the bedroom but if it is sci-fi or something with amazing scenery blu-ray is the way to go cool

I don't own a single blu-ray disc though, I'm not a collector.

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Reply #8 posted 02/08/12 3:12pm

PANDURITO

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Deadcake said:

For the 32" TV in the bedroom any old DVD or .avi looks fine, blu-ray not justified on such a small TV. .

I remember about 20 years ago when we bought our first 32" giant screen lol

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Reply #9 posted 02/08/12 3:14pm

Deadcake

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PANDURITO said:

Deadcake said:

For the 32" TV in the bedroom any old DVD or .avi looks fine, blu-ray not justified on such a small TV. .

I remember about 20 years ago when we bought our first 32" giant screen lol

before that tv I had a 32cm TV in the bedroom dead

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Reply #10 posted 02/08/12 3:17pm

nursev

PANDURITO said:



nursev said:


I have a blu ray disc player,but only one blu ray disc lol


Wow, I had never met anyone who had as many players as discs smile



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Reply #11 posted 02/08/12 4:15pm

runphilrun

I don't think Blu-rays are going away anytime soon. There's tons of movies, new & old, which are still being released these past few years and look amazing on a HD TV. One example is Tree of Life. The movie might be a chore to get through, but the quality of the picture is immense. I personaly have over a hundred Blu-rays.

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Reply #12 posted 02/08/12 7:40pm

ufoclub

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Comparison of VHS to DVD to BluRay in side by side detail comparison:

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/chicago07crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/id401crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/id405crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/id403crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

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Reply #13 posted 02/08/12 8:43pm

SUPRMAN

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Graycap23 said:

Now that consumers have had time 2 digest HD and what it has 2 offer.

Have u switched from regular DVD's to Blu-ray?

Do u still buy DVD's now that u can download everything?

How many Bluray's do u own?

I only back action films that I really like on Blu-ray.

I own at least 1,000 dvd's but only about 30 blu-rays.

I stopped buying DVD's as soon as I bought my first Blu-Ray in 2009.

Clearly a difference but I have no plan to replace my DVD's with Blu-Ray just yet.

I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think.
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Reply #14 posted 02/12/12 10:17am

imago

I know people who refuse to by DVDs now.

I think the quality of blu-ray on a big screen tv is amazing.

Once you roll backwards, it becomes very apparent the difference in quality.

and the sound is better too.

I think DVDs will stick around though, because they're quality is not horrible, and teir file sizes are so much smaller.

Physical media's days are numbered though I think.

In 10 to 15 years time, storage capacity on all our devices will be staggering. Better-than-blue-ray is looming.

I think this is going to really change porn though.

It's already expensive enough for porn stars who have their breasts augmented on DVD, because so much detail shows up, that many have had to try to correct

their scars, etc.

Theyre going to need to use a form of that anti-pixilation technology they use

when transfering old 'film' DVDs over to blu-ray, on porn stars soon.

Don't get me wrong--porn will survive this. It just won't be the same.

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Reply #15 posted 02/12/12 1:14pm

andykeen

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Graycap23 said:

Now that consumers have had time 2 digest HD and what it has 2 offer.

Have u switched from regular DVD's to Blu-ray?

Yes. I no longer buy DVD's as the difference is huge.

Do u still buy DVD's now that u can download everything?

Nope. Only Blu-rays for me.

How many Bluray's do u own?

30+. I have over 250 movies, which I am slowly swtiching to DVD's.

I only back action films that I really like on Blu-ray.

I own at least 1,000 dvd's but only about 30 blu-rays.


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Reply #16 posted 02/12/12 1:23pm

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if it's a good film I'll get the Blu Ray version, much better...

if it's some crap 70's/80's b movie horror (guilty pleasure thing) then a dvd for a couple of quid is plenty good enough.

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Reply #17 posted 02/13/12 4:53am

Steadwood

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PANDURITO said:

nursev said:

I have a blu ray disc player,but only one blu ray disc lol

Wow, I had never met anyone who had as many players as discs smile

We have more players than discs! nod

smile

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Reply #18 posted 02/13/12 9:19am

Ace

Graycap23 said:

Now that consumers have had time 2 digest HD and what it has 2 offer.

Have u switched from regular DVD's to Blu-ray?

My laptop has a Blu-ray drive.

Do u still buy DVD's now that u can download everything?

I rarely watch movies or other stuff that you'd get on disc. When I do, I rent from iTunes.

How many Bluray's do u own?

I think that pretty much covers it. lol

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Reply #19 posted 02/13/12 11:09am

morningsong

ufoclub said:

Comparison of VHS to DVD to BluRay in side by side detail comparison:

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/chicago07crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/id401crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/id405crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/id403crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

Cool example.

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Reply #20 posted 02/13/12 11:16am

retina

ufoclub said:

Comparison of VHS to DVD to BluRay in side by side detail comparison:

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/chicago07crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/id401crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/id405crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/id403crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

That is not how a DVD looks on my screen. Unless it's a small detail that's been magnified a great deal, but when do I ever magnify details? I watch the whole screen and it looks fine to me. shrug

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Reply #21 posted 02/13/12 12:11pm

ufoclub

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retina said:

ufoclub said:

Comparison of VHS to DVD to BluRay in side by side detail comparison:

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/chicago07crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/id401crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/id405crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/vhstobd/graphics/id403crop.jpg[/img:$uid]

That is not how a DVD looks on my screen. Unless it's a small detail that's been magnified a great deal, but when do I ever magnify details? I watch the whole screen and it looks fine to me. shrug

Those are small sections of the screen, but it shows how much better blu-ray is. and blu-ray is cheaper than DVD was at the same place in it's consumer lifecycle.

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Reply #22 posted 02/13/12 12:30pm

runphilrun

Not all Blu-ray transfers look great. A couple in my collection like Total Recall, and Sleepy Hallow look no better then their DVD counterparts. That said, some Blu-Ray transfers look mind boggling. If you like old movies, It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World is one example.

http://www.blu-ray.com/mo...creenshots

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Reply #23 posted 02/13/12 12:34pm

retina

ufoclub said:

retina said:

That is not how a DVD looks on my screen. Unless it's a small detail that's been magnified a great deal, but when do I ever magnify details? I watch the whole screen and it looks fine to me. shrug

Those are small sections of the screen, but it shows how much better blu-ray is. and blu-ray is cheaper than DVD was at the same place in it's consumer lifecycle.

Perhaps, but they're still more expensive than DVD at present and I can barely tell the difference in quality when I watch the whole screen (as people always do when they watch movies). Obviously some people can tell a difference even then and they're very welcome to spend the extra bucks if they want. In fact the more of them there are, the fewer will buy DVDs which will bring the DVD price down even further. So it's a win-win.

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Reply #24 posted 02/14/12 9:01am

Steadwood

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Steadwood said:

PANDURITO said:

Wow, I had never met anyone who had as many players as discs smile

We have more players than discs! nod

smile

Ok... we bought 2 discs today so now we have more discs than players dancing jig

It's good to feel normal again whew

smile

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Reply #25 posted 02/14/12 9:54am

Graycap23

How many players do u own?

I have 9.

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Reply #26 posted 02/14/12 10:02am

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Have u switched from regular DVD's to Blu-ray?

For the most part yes. I still have my DVDs of films that have not been released on blu-ray, but I won't buy new movies on DVD anymore.

Do u still buy DVD's now that u can download everything?

I don't download. I don't do streaming either. The picture quality isn't as good yet for PPV/streaming as blu-ray. It's very clear to me when watching the HD broadcast of Mad Men for example that it isn't as crisp as when I watch the same episodes again on blu-ray. How some people can't see the drastic difference between picture quality of blu-rays and DVDs when I can see a difference between blu-rays and HD broadcasts, I don't understand. Maybe my eyesight is just very very good.

How many Bluray's do u own?

Around 150. My collection is constantly growing.

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Reply #27 posted 02/14/12 1:34pm

PANDURITO

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Steadwood said:

Steadwood said:

We have more players than discs! nod

smile

Ok... we bought 2 discs today so now we have more discs than players dancing jig

It's good to feel normal again whew

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Reply #28 posted 02/14/12 2:54pm

Deadcake

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sextonseven said:

Have u switched from regular DVD's to Blu-ray?

For the most part yes. I still have my DVDs of films that have not been released on blu-ray, but I won't buy new movies on DVD anymore.

Do u still buy DVD's now that u can download everything?

I don't download. I don't do streaming either. The picture quality isn't as good yet for PPV/streaming as blu-ray. It's very clear to me when watching the HD broadcast of Mad Men for example that it isn't as crisp as when I watch the same episodes again on blu-ray. How some people can't see the drastic difference between picture quality of blu-rays and DVDs when I can see a difference between blu-rays and HD broadcasts, I don't understand. Maybe my eyesight is just very very good.

How many Bluray's do u own?

Around 150. My collection is constantly growing.

it's not that they can't see the difference it's probably that they really don't CARE that much lol

I watch shitty downloads that are all pixellated and the blacks look weird but it doesn't bother me

popcorn

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Reply #29 posted 02/14/12 3:21pm

runphilrun

Deadcake said:

sextonseven said:

Have u switched from regular DVD's to Blu-ray?

For the most part yes. I still have my DVDs of films that have not been released on blu-ray, but I won't buy new movies on DVD anymore.

Do u still buy DVD's now that u can download everything?

I don't download. I don't do streaming either. The picture quality isn't as good yet for PPV/streaming as blu-ray. It's very clear to me when watching the HD broadcast of Mad Men for example that it isn't as crisp as when I watch the same episodes again on blu-ray. How some people can't see the drastic difference between picture quality of blu-rays and DVDs when I can see a difference between blu-rays and HD broadcasts, I don't understand. Maybe my eyesight is just very very good.

How many Bluray's do u own?

Around 150. My collection is constantly growing.

it's not that they can't see the difference it's probably that they really don't CARE that much lol

I watch shitty downloads that are all pixellated and the blacks look weird but it doesn't bother me

popcorn

I agree, and as far as streaming, Netflix has tons of obscure films on streaming only. Pre code, public domain Film Noir stuff for example. One thing that frustrates me (& my pocketbook) about

Blu-ray movies are, that there are certain titles that are only available in Europe like The Elephant Man, Mulholland Drive, The Pianist, etc. and you have to purchase a mult-regional player to view them here in the U.S. I guess it goes both ways for the Europeans lol

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