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Thread started 02/17/12 11:31am

Timmy84

Hollywood/California changes you...

And before I start, this was not just a realization but I've known of all these celebrity deaths and all of that in Hollywood/California, it definitely gives me an impression that Hollywood/California is an unsafe place especially if you're a celebrity. This is celebrity related really because I've noticed a trend of famous celebrities who have met serious fates there from Sam Cooke to John Belushi to Marvin Gaye and on down, and now with Michael and Whitney, I just wonder what's this thing with Hollywood and deaths and I wonder if it's just coincidence or what.

Just wanted a debate on this.

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Reply #1 posted 02/17/12 11:33am

Graycap23

Hollywood is about exploitation 2 it's highest degree.

Most humans are NOT built 4 what it really stands 4.

I've seen it 1st hand. Only the TRULY strong survive.

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Reply #2 posted 02/17/12 11:43am

Timmy84

Graycap23 said:

Hollywood is about exploitation 2 it's highest degree.

Most humans are NOT built 4 what it really stands 4.

I've seen it 1st hand. Only the TRULY strong survive.

I've kept reading people who gave their views on Hollywood and can definitely agree to what you're saying.

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Reply #3 posted 02/17/12 12:07pm

Ottensen

I have childhood friends that are out there in film; they switch back and forth between there and New York (their original stomping grounds). Can't say that I'm really happy when they're California bound, because though they're grown ass people I do worry about what craziness they can (and sometimes do) fall into getting their hustle on in the Hollyweird machine. It's so damned toxic I pretty much wait with (metaphorical) baited breath for them to burn out, and then return to the east coast every few years. I personally have never had a Hollywood/LA experience that didn't read like some carbon copy of

or even this surprisingly dark show

The L.A. Complex

I started watching this show because I thought it would be a typical night soap (like Melrose Place)...good lord did this shock the **** out of me, it's dark and bloody (but good tv that pushes the envelope). As much as I enjoy it I can really be glad that most of my friends and I are old, settled, and out of that hungry, crazed phase of our 20's when anything goes, and especially in places like LA.

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Reply #4 posted 02/17/12 12:09pm

Genesia

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I don't think it really changes people. I think it magnifies vulnerabilities that are already there.
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Reply #5 posted 02/17/12 12:15pm

morningsong

Hollywood and LA don't make up the majority of the state.

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Reply #6 posted 02/17/12 12:17pm

Graycap23

Genesia said:

I don't think it really changes people. I think it magnifies vulnerabilities that are already there.

I've seen 2 change folks in a MAJOR way.

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Reply #7 posted 02/17/12 12:20pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Genesia said:

I don't think it really changes people. I think it magnifies vulnerabilities that are already there.

I agree with this.

2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #8 posted 02/17/12 12:20pm

G3000

^ I agree. It's not all of Cali. If you drive an hour or two south (San Diego) it's another world entirely, if you go to Nothern Cali, it's also another world. Hollywood/L.A. proper, OMG! The worse!

I started a thread awhile back about my new favorite show on HGTV - Selling L.A. vs Selling New York. It's sickens me how the poeple are In L.A.. At least in New York, you know who you are dealing with from Jump, in L.A., you may as well be talking to manniquin! sad

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Reply #9 posted 02/17/12 12:24pm

Timmy84

G3000 said:

^ I agree. It's not all of Cali. If you drive an hour or two south (San Diego) it's another world entirely, if you go to Nothern Cali, it's also another world. Hollywood/L.A. proper, OMG! The worse!

I started a thread awhile back about my new favorite show on HGTV - Selling L.A. vs Selling New York. It's sickens me how the poeple are In L.A.. At least in New York, you know who you are dealing with from Jump, in L.A., you may as well be talking to manniquin! sad

I always heard if you come to Los Angeles that people can tell where you're from and you automatically are looked on as foreign to them. Like they have their own language in L.A., Beverly Hills, etc.

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Reply #10 posted 02/17/12 12:40pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Timmy84 said:

G3000 said:

^ I agree. It's not all of Cali. If you drive an hour or two south (San Diego) it's another world entirely, if you go to Nothern Cali, it's also another world. Hollywood/L.A. proper, OMG! The worse!

I started a thread awhile back about my new favorite show on HGTV - Selling L.A. vs Selling New York. It's sickens me how the poeple are In L.A.. At least in New York, you know who you are dealing with from Jump, in L.A., you may as well be talking to manniquin! sad

I always heard if you come to Los Angeles that people can tell where you're from and you automatically are looked on as foreign to them. Like they have their own language in L.A., Beverly Hills, etc.

falloff falloff falloff

Los Angeles is made up, probably, of more transplants than natives. I'm a native and people are always surprised when I tell them I'm from Cali.

Los Angeles is AMAZING. The opportunities here are unlike anywhere else. I love L.A. heart

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Reply #11 posted 02/17/12 12:42pm

Timmy84

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Timmy84 said:

I always heard if you come to Los Angeles that people can tell where you're from and you automatically are looked on as foreign to them. Like they have their own language in L.A., Beverly Hills, etc.

falloff falloff falloff

Los Angeles is made up, probably, of more transplants than natives. I'm a native and people are always surprised when I tell them I'm from Cali.

Los Angeles is AMAZING. The opportunities here are unlike anywhere else. I love L.A. heart

Why would I be surprised? lol If you didn't know me, you'd think I was some "Blackneck" from the "Dirty South". wink It's funny how Los Angeles have emigrants and yet if you just visit, they act like they BEEN from there. lol

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Reply #12 posted 02/17/12 12:43pm

G3000

That's so true! I'm from the south (Louisiana), but moved to L.A. 25 yrs ago, I go back to visit and people say, "you look like you're from Cali/L.A."? Like I'm from another planet. WTF does that mean??

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But then, I now look at them the same way. lol

I don't buy into the L.A. mentality, but I understand it. confused

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Reply #13 posted 02/17/12 12:45pm

Gunsnhalen

I Can actually agree with Timmy on this, i love in West Hollywood. And before then on Hollywood & vine, i went to film school with some great peeps. But a lot of them got into the Hollywood lifestyle, glamours parties, drinking, some even drugs. And i'm not just talking marijuana sadly... i'm talking coke, acid and all kinds.

They began to get full of themselves, not show up to class often and would get outside help on school projects. Because we where ''not creative'' enough or ''unreliable''

Mess confused

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All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

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Reply #14 posted 02/17/12 12:46pm

Genesia

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Genesia said:


I don't think it really changes people. I think it magnifies vulnerabilities that are already there.

I agree with this.



Since moving to California, my sister has had a nose job, a boob job, fillers, Botox, and heaven knows what else. Now, she might have done all that had she stayed in the Midwest - but I doubt it.

Still, those insecurities had to have been there before.
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Reply #15 posted 02/17/12 12:50pm

G3000

I would really love to leave this place, but I'm kinda stuck. It was cool for awhile, but I really hate it now!! boxed

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Reply #16 posted 02/17/12 12:54pm

Graycap23

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Genesia said:

I don't think it really changes people. I think it magnifies vulnerabilities that are already there.

I agree with this.

Go from "normal, 2 semi star, 2 star with serious loot in the bank and people start kissing your ass on a regular basis. Trust this, that would change 99% of most humans.

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Reply #17 posted 02/17/12 12:58pm

INSATIABLE

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Hilarious.

Oh shit, my hat done fell off
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Reply #18 posted 02/17/12 1:02pm

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I agree 1,000%.

My daughter had the chance to try out for some parts. But my wife and I ultimately passed.

We just couldn't think of one young girl who went to Hollywood and stayed normal/a non-smoker/a non-drug addict/a non-boozer. Not one, although surely there must be one.

The only person we came close to was Taylor Swift, who seems to have kept her morals intact. Of course, she is a little older, and didn't go to Hollywood but rather to Nashville.

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Reply #19 posted 02/17/12 1:03pm

PurpleJedi

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Genesia said:

I don't think it really changes people. I think it magnifies vulnerabilities that are already there.

yeahthat

The many people who worked the Hollywood machine and emerged just fine are rarely in the headlines, so they're forgotten or overlooked.

By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #20 posted 02/17/12 1:03pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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People, there are other jobs in LA than just moviestar! lol

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Reply #21 posted 02/17/12 1:14pm

INSATIABLE

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

People, there are other jobs in LA than just moviestar! lol

Seriously. And uh, 'Hollywood' / 'California' are hardly interchangeable. There's 38 million MFs in that state and 156k square miles of land.

Oh shit, my hat done fell off
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Reply #22 posted 02/17/12 1:29pm

Timmy84

If you just wanna seek work doing something besides entertainment, of course it's not any different. I wasn't talking about normal folks. lol

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Reply #23 posted 02/17/12 1:54pm

BlackAdder7

not all of us are hollywood casualities. it's just the casualities that make for interesting tabloid fodder.

some of us have done our time, and moved on.

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Reply #24 posted 02/17/12 2:30pm

yanowha

To quote Miss Yvette Stevens, "Everybody makes believe in Hollywood. Whoooooa!!!".

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Reply #25 posted 02/17/12 2:53pm

KingBAD

woot!

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
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Reply #26 posted 02/17/12 3:07pm

Timmy84

BlackAdder7 said:

not all of us are hollywood casualities. it's just the casualities that make for interesting tabloid fodder.

some of us have done our time, and moved on.

I know. I was just saying in general. Of course not everyone who goes to Hollywood easily fall victim. Like Genesia said, people may have had hidden demons before moving or going there.

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Reply #27 posted 02/17/12 3:39pm

XxAxX

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back when i lived in a big white mansion at the top of the hollywood hills i'd always hang with the brilliant crowd, they'd come to my parties, laugh my jokes, listen to my music, eat my food, swim in my pools... it was groovy. we were all so young back then. and the fame~! but after a while it got so the sun was just a little too bright and i just couldn't take the altitude in those hollywood hills anymore. i guess life just got too fast for me. too many happy shiny parties and late nights and i can't hardly even remember the what else of it all. so i came back home to minneapolis, the cradle of real civilization. i had to save me from myself before it was too late. i guess it's true what they say, hollywood can change a person. it changed me, but i lived to talk about it. neutral

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Reply #28 posted 02/17/12 3:40pm

debbiedean2

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It's not Hollywood/Cali, it's the entertainment business itself. I was just talking about this at work. Drug, alcohol abuse and high divorce rates goes hand and hand in this business. I'm sad to say that when I hear someone in the entertainment business died because of drugs/alcohol, i'm not surprised. It's a helluva sacrifice to give up your identity, privacy, peace of mind, etc to be rich and famous. I can definitely see why they turn to drugs/alcohol to cope esp when they are no longer on top. Only the strong can survive.

That's just my 2 cents wink

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Reply #29 posted 02/17/12 3:43pm

Timmy84

debbiedean2 said:

It's not Hollywood/Cali, it's the entertainment business itself. I was just talking about this at work. Drug, alcohol abuse and high divorce rates goes hand and hand in this business. I'm sad to say that when I hear someone in the entertainment business died because of drugs/alcohol, i'm not surprised. It's a helluva sacrifice to give up your identity, privacy, peace of mind, etc to be rich and famous. I can definitely see why they turn to drugs/alcohol to cope esp when they are no longer on top. Only the strong can survive.

That's just my 2 cents wink

That's actually what I meant to say. The business. lol I surely didn't start this right... thanks that's exactly what I was trying to say. smile

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