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Reply #60 posted 08/08/10 2:12pm

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sexyAuntyFuka said:

Fact: Of the 19 main black characters in the Bond film 'Live & let die' ..17 are killed disbelief

WELL, they WERE nasty & weird assassins and drug-dealers, they had to die, right?

at least the fat henchman was spared...sort of...

shitty Bond film anyway

BY THE WAY, in License to Kill, Sharky, a black fat guy and the second best friend of Bond at that time, is ridiculed, hunted and killed like a whale disbelief

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Reply #61 posted 08/08/10 2:12pm

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PunkMistress said:

thekidsgirl said:

Damn! And it was even Samuel L. Jackson! lol I do remember him being there now, but his role was small

He was in every movie in the world during those few years. lol

that's why he was so muthafuckin' tired! wink

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Reply #62 posted 08/08/10 2:32pm

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JoeTyler said:

sexyAuntyFuka said:

Fact: Of the 19 main black characters in the Bond film 'Live & let die' ..17 are killed disbelief

WELL, they WERE nasty & weird assassins and drug-dealers, they had to die, right?

at least the fat henchman was spared...sort of...

shitty Bond film anyway

BY THE WAY, in License to Kill, Sharky, a black fat guy and the second best friend of Bond at that time, is ridiculed, hunted and killed like a whale disbelief

The compressed air pellet was just WRONG lol

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Reply #63 posted 08/08/10 2:55pm

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sexyAuntyFuka said:

JoeTyler said:

WELL, they WERE nasty & weird assassins and drug-dealers, they had to die, right?

at least the fat henchman was spared...sort of...

shitty Bond film anyway

BY THE WAY, in License to Kill, Sharky, a black fat guy and the second best friend of Bond at that time, is ridiculed, hunted and killed like a whale disbelief

The compressed air pellet was just WRONG lol

yep, that film was TOO violent, but still the best Bond of the 80s...

another one: in Dr.No, the black dude who helps Bond is burned alive neutral

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Reply #64 posted 08/08/10 5:03pm

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In Schindler's list, no black people died.

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Reply #65 posted 08/08/10 9:37pm

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Fact: Of the 19 main black characters in the Bond film 'Live & let die' ..17 are killed disbelief

SAF: The film was set in majority black locales involving black characters in key roles. The 19 filled typical roles in Bond films, and many of them died at the hands of each other, just as villains die by heroes and vice versa in many spy movies.

Most of the villains and henchmen die in Bond films.

L&LD is on the top shelf of Bond movies and the sizeable black cast has something to do with that (and a lot to do with it for me).

I see what you're saying, but I can't hold that against the filmmakers.

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Reply #66 posted 08/08/10 9:49pm

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sexyAuntyFuka said:

Kill Bill plays with it by showing Vernita Green's death first, then going back to O-Ren and the Crazy 88.

Let's not forget the black musician in the chapel massacre scene (played by Samuel L. Jackson, lol).

Honey, stop talking and just create the music.
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Reply #67 posted 08/08/10 10:50pm

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thekidsgirl said:

Damn! And it was even Samuel L. Jackson! lol I do remember him being there now, but his role was small

He was in every movie in the world during those few years. lol

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Reply #68 posted 08/08/10 11:42pm

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novabrkr said:

PunkMistress said:

He was in every movie in the world during those few years. lol

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He was also murdered in Goodfellas.

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Reply #69 posted 08/09/10 4:50am

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It's so obvious that it's comical. There have been quite a few comedic skits/scenes where a black character will say something like "I ain't goin, the brother is always the first to die" lol

Perhaps some writers are expressing their true feelings?

-Sorry to get so heavy but we(African Americans) are lucky America needs to take the moral high ground in order to dictate policy to other countries. You can't do that if you blatantly murderer you're own citizens.

.....Otherwise they might just clean up this whole messy angry descendants of slaves issue they have to deal with. sad

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Reply #70 posted 08/09/10 5:05am

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This thread is hilarious popcorn

I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #71 posted 08/09/10 6:01am

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joseph8 said:

It's so obvious that it's comical. There have been quite a few comedic skits/scenes where a black character will say something like "I ain't goin, the brother is always the first to die" lol

Perhaps some writers are expressing their true feelings?

-Sorry to get so heavy but we(African Americans) are lucky America needs to take the moral high ground in order to dictate policy to other countries. You can't do that if you blatantly murderer you're own citizens.

.....Otherwise they might just clean up this whole messy angry descendants of slaves issue they have to deal with. sad

Copied this from some website:

For some reason, Hollywood hates the black man, putting them that much higher on the Sorting Algorithm Of Mortality. The Comedy Black Man? Despised beyond measure.

In the past this was because there were few black leads in big-budget films outside of those that focused specifically on race or used it to make a point. Historical moviemakers were generally writing to white audiences, so it was natural (at least in their opinion) for whites to get more screen time. And if the writers throw in a Token Minority to give the cast more believable racial balance, who do you think is going to die first, them or the folks who have a bigger role in the script? neutral

As more black people with money to spend went to theaters, more and more prominent black characters and more big-name black actors emerged-none of which were likely to get killed off quietly. Studios had also finally accepted that white audiences are not generally as racist as was once assumed, and do not need to have a white as the protagonist. In other words, if you're gonna go after the black man nowadays, you might want to check the credits to see who's playing him. If it's no one you've actually heard of, they're probably fair game. Tony Todd? Go for it. Samuel L Jackson? You can take your chances, but I don't like your odds. Rosario Dawson? Yeah, good luck on that. Denzel Washington? Bad idea. Morgan Freeman? You should give up. Will Smith? Run away and hide. lol

As black actors became more common in significant roles, this trope found new ways to stay relevant. Films would take a Scary Black Man, turn him into The Big Guy, and kill him off to show how strong their monster is. In horror films, the afflicted main character might have a sassy Black Best Friend that gets killed off to show that this is no laughing matter. 80s horror shows were good at this, and film makers had growing backlash against all the exploitation films.

This became a Dead Horse Trope once black comedians began to reference it in their routines, and comedy movies began to reference, parody, subvert, and lampshade it. Like many aspects of racism that have become less overt over the years, some people refuse to believe that it ever existed, but these people probably haven't seen many movies made before 1990.

Of the 6 swimmers in the water in Jaws 3 ..6 are white & 1 is black.. JAWS's racist sea swimming ass chooses 2 eat, the ONE black guy disbelief

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Reply #72 posted 08/09/10 6:45am

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Reply #73 posted 08/09/10 8:22am

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BlackAdder7 said:

In Schindler's list, no black people died.

lol

hmmm honestly though when Black people saw a white man killing other white people, talking about the perfect race is blonde haired and blue eyed, do you think they stood around thinking "wow, germany is the hot vacation spot of the year!" or decided to get the fuck out of dodge.

do you really believe no Black people or other ethnicites were killed in the Holocaust? Because peope talk like Jews were the only ones persecuted....and the reason Jews were targeted is because they stayed in Germany (thinking they were white and therefore superior and would not be killed.....

that's the sad part of the Holocaust that's not in the Hollywood version disbelief

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Reply #74 posted 08/09/10 10:00am

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This is not directly on point, but one of the most telling stories about movies and race is about a screen test of a Planet of the Apes movie. Y'all may have heard it.

In the late 60's, the studio decided to screen test the Conquest of the Planet of the Apes flick in a theater in Watts. This was the one that explained how the Apes took over. It involved a violent conquest scene and the ending didn't treat the remaining (mostly white) humans too well.

The crowd, which of course had experienced the riots a few years earlier, went crazy for it.

The studio was so spooked the ending was re-shot.

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Reply #75 posted 08/09/10 11:16am

sexyAuntyFuka

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BklynBabe said:

BlackAdder7 said:

In Schindler's list, no black people died.

lol

hmmm honestly though when Black people saw a white man killing other white people, talking about the perfect race is blonde haired and blue eyed, do you think they stood around thinking "wow, germany is the hot vacation spot of the year!" or decided to get the fuck out of dodge.

do you really believe no Black people or other ethnicites were killed in the Holocaust? Because peope talk like Jews were the only ones persecuted....and the reason Jews were targeted is because they stayed in Germany (thinking they were white and therefore superior and would not be killed.....

that's the sad part of the Holocaust that's not in the Hollywood version disbelief

Good point: There were literally thousands of black people in Nazi Germany in the 1930,s.. when the shit hit the fan and the glass hit the floor many made it out...

Many did not..

Black ppl in Nazi death camp,s were a very common site- along with Jews and those with a mental handicap

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Reply #76 posted 08/09/10 11:31am

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As soon as black actor Woody Strode walked in on the film 'Spartacus' ..I set my stop watch to the countdown 4 when he became the first main character 2 die in the Movie.. He even had Kirk Douglas's ass on the ropes at 1 point but instead chooses one of MOST degrading deaths in cinema history disbelief

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Reply #77 posted 08/09/10 11:59am

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BklynBabe said:

the reason Jews were targeted is because they stayed in Germany (thinking they were white and therefore superior and would not be killed...

This thread was funny/interesting/necessary until someone had to blow it with a depressingly wrong (and false) historical/political remark...

sigh

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Reply #78 posted 08/09/10 12:14pm

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JoeTyler said:

BklynBabe said:

This thread was funny/interesting/necessary until someone had to blow it with a depressingly wrong (and false) historical/political remark...

sigh

maybe you shouldn't take the remark out of context....hmmm

....Because people talk like Jews were the only ones persecuted....and the reason Jews were targeted is because they stayed in Germany (thinking they were white and therefore superior and would not be killed.....

reading...fundamental...try it!

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Reply #79 posted 08/09/10 12:51pm

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BklynBabe said:

JoeTyler said:

This thread was funny/interesting/necessary until someone had to blow it with a depressingly wrong (and false) historical/political remark...

sigh

maybe you shouldn't take the remark out of context....hmmm

....Because people talk like Jews were the only ones persecuted....and the reason Jews were targeted is because they stayed in Germany (thinking they were white and therefore superior and would not be killed.....

reading...fundamental...try it!

From my history minor I recall the reasons so many Jews stayed in Nazi Germany was..

1. Nearly all countries had very strict immigration laws in the 1930s and these were enforced. There was no such thing as a legal right to asylum at the time.

2. It wasn't enough simply to get out of Germany: the refugees needed jobs, too, and these were notoriously hard to find in the 1930s. Many also had young or elderly dependants. (In general, it was easier for young, single people to leave). If refugees did not have a job in advance, they needed relatives, or have a firm commitment that a charity would support them. Britain, Australia and the US all required guarantees. Moreover, the amount of money that refugees were allowed to take out of Germany was decreased year by year after 1933.

4. On the whole, young single people with good qualifications found it much easier than people with family commitments.

5. Before the Nazis came to power (1933) the great majority of German Jews were highly assimilated into German society. Some had been brought up to be "more German than the Germans". There is evidence that many had difficulty understanding what was really happening to them, at least in the early stages. They were thoroughly German and many were tragically in love with Germany. This only changed as persecution intensified and especially when they were subjected to widespread physical violence in the 'Night of the Broken Glass' (November 1938).

6. Until about 1941 it was not obvious that persecution would culminate in the Holocaust.

7. In addition to the German (and Austrian) Jews there were also non-Jewish political refugees trying to emigrate, and this added to the numbers seeking residence in countries like the U.S. and Britain.

BklynBabe.. perhaps U were referring in part 2 point no. 5?

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Reply #80 posted 08/09/10 1:10pm

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you rawk, sexy AuntyFuka!

Thanks for the history. I was just pointing out the myths of the Holocaust ie. no Blacks in Germany, the reason why Jews stayed. Unfortunately I wasn't thinking of breaking it down point by point historically. Internet....what is read is not always what is intended....c'est la vie.

Basically all I meant is no Blacks died in Schindler's List....but they should have. More Hollywood inaccuracy. sad

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Reply #81 posted 08/09/10 1:34pm

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1. Scatman Crothers dies first from an ax wound in The Shining.

2. Morgan Freeman in Unforgiven.

3. Deep Rising, in which Blood Diamond and Gladiator's Djimon Honsou in one of his earlier roles gets hilariously axed in the head whilst opening a safe.

4. Aliens. When the marines are ambushed, the first one to get attacked is Dietrich. She is picked up by an Alien (and cocooned, according to Ripley, so she isn't actually killed) and winds up accidentally lighting Frost

5. Dungeons and Dragons, Marlon Wayans is slightly too slow and ends up impaled on Damodar's claws.
He's the only good guy who dies in that.
Opening night when I saw it some black dude in the audience shouted out "Man why we always gotta be the first to die?!" to raucous laughter of the rest of the audience lol

6. The Mist.
An entire village of people holed up in a store, and they send the only black guy out to see what's going on. Honestly, I think the director did it on purpose.

7. That first fighter in Mortal Kombat. The one with the dreadlocks and the lion roar that got his soul sucked out by Shang Tsung. I don't know if it counts, because he turned white after he got his soul taken away. smile

8. Saw. Danny Glover. eek

9. In The original Karate Kid, the sole black member of the Cobra Kai is the first one defeated. smile

10. Carl Weathers in Happy Gilmore.

11. In True Romance Gary Oldman starts of by killing no less then three black guys, one of wich is Samuel L. "God damn motherfucking" Jackson.

12. In I Still Know What You Did Last Summer, the main black guy was the first to die.

13. Bubba dies first in Forrest Gump

14. Alien Resurrection
After the alien warriors escape by acid burning through the floor, they send the lone black security guard to stick his head in to see "where they went."
I'm quite sure he was the first one to die.

15. Yaphet Kotto the first to go in "THE Running Man"

16. Monster's Ball. -Diddy got it bad.

17. 300... The black "this is madness- NO THIS IS SPARTA!" messenger

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Reply #82 posted 08/09/10 1:51pm

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sexyAuntyFuka said:

1. Scatman Crothers dies first from an ax wound in The Shining.

2. Morgan Freeman in Unforgiven.

3. Deep Rising, in which Blood Diamond and Gladiator's Djimon Honsou in one of his earlier roles gets hilariously axed in the head whilst opening a safe.

4. Aliens. When the marines are ambushed, the first one to get attacked is Dietrich. She is picked up by an Alien (and cocooned, according to Ripley, so she isn't actually killed) and winds up accidentally lighting Frost

5. Dungeons and Dragons, Marlon Wayans is slightly too slow and ends up impaled on Damodar's claws.
He's the only good guy who dies in that.
Opening night when I saw it some black dude in the audience shouted out "Man why we always gotta be the first to die?!" to raucous laughter of the rest of the audience lol

6. The Mist.
An entire village of people holed up in a store, and they send the only black guy out to see what's going on. Honestly, I think the director did it on purpose.

7. That first fighter in Mortal Kombat. The one with the dreadlocks and the lion roar that got his soul sucked out by Shang Tsung. I don't know if it counts, because he turned white after he got his soul taken away. smile

8. Saw. Danny Glover. eek

9. In The original Karate Kid, the sole black member of the Cobra Kai is the first one defeated. smile

10. Carl Weathers in Happy Gilmore.

11. In True Romance Gary Oldman starts of by killing no less then three black guys, one of wich is Samuel L. "God damn motherfucking" Jackson.

12. In I Still Know What You Did Last Summer, the main black guy was the first to die.

13. Bubba dies first in Forrest Gump

14. Alien Resurrection
After the alien warriors escape by acid burning through the floor, they send the lone black security guard to stick his head in to see "where they went."
I'm quite sure he was the first one to die.

15. Yaphet Kotto the first to go in "THE Running Man"

16. Monster's Ball. -Diddy got it bad.

17. 300... The black "this is madness- NO THIS IS SPARTA!" messenger

6. Wrong about the Mist there. The Black guy and a group of people didn't believe there was a monster outside so they left the store as a group.

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Reply #83 posted 08/09/10 2:09pm

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Equilibrium:

not including background people or brief walk-ons, there is only one racial minority character and he gets killed! Brandt (Taye Diggs) is the only black guy in the movie who speaks

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Reply #84 posted 08/09/10 2:11pm

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kpowers said:

sexyAuntyFuka said:

6. The Mist.
An entire village of people holed up in a store, and they send the only black guy out to see what's going on. Honestly, I think the director did it on purpose.

6. Wrong about the Mist there. The Black guy and a group of people didn't believe there was a monster outside so they left the store as a group.

Brent Norton (Andre Braugher) leads a group of men out into the mist to their vehicles or otherwise get help. THE MIST clearly establishes that if you don't come back, it's because you died, as evidenced by the one man in the group who returns... from the waist down.

The only other three minority actors in the movie with any screen time are three soldiers (extras never count, and for good reason. On movie sets they are addressed as "Background", as in "Background, if any of you look directly at our lead actor again I'll going to pick you out of the group and send you home. Avert your gaze, now!"). Two of them kill themselves and a third one goes "ALIEN", neutral

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Reply #85 posted 08/09/10 2:18pm

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sexyAuntyFuka said:

kpowers said:

6. Wrong about the Mist there. The Black guy and a group of people didn't believe there was a monster outside so they left the store as a group.

Brent Norton (Andre Braugher) leads a group of men out into the mist to their vehicles or otherwise get help. THE MIST clearly establishes that if you don't come back, it's because you died, as evidenced by the one man in the group who returns... from the waist down.

The only other three minority actors in the movie with any screen time are three soldiers (extras never count, and for good reason. On movie sets they are addressed as "Background", as in "Background, if any of you look directly at our lead actor again I'll going to pick you out of the group and send you home. Avert your gaze, now!"). Two of them kill themselves and a third one goes "ALIEN", neutral

Yes your synopsis is more accurate then the previous one.

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Reply #86 posted 08/09/10 5:41pm

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BklynBabe said:

PunkMistress said:

He was in every movie in the world during those few years. lol

that's why he was so muthafuckin' tired! wink

lol

and amazingly he managed to play the same stock character in every role

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Reply #87 posted 08/09/10 6:43pm

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Not always.

1. Louis Gossett Jr. survived (despite the dead of his black nephew) in Jaws 3-D.

2. Danny Glover survived in Predator 2.

3. That black man (who thought about suicide but change his mind) survived along with that pregnant white woman who's boyfriend was one of the zombies that came after them in the original Dawn Of The Dead.

4. That black teenage boy survived with that white teenage girl in Night Of The Demons.

5. That black man survived with Kurt Russell in The Thing (although it's still unknown if they survived the winter strom in Antarctica!).

6. Ice Cube survived with Jennifer Lopez in Anaconda.

7. Busta Rhymes survived in Halloween Resurrection.

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Reply #88 posted 08/09/10 6:44pm

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sexyAuntyFuka said:

Lets hear it 4 Samuel L Jackson...the original expendable black guy in a Hollywood movie..he's been killed in:

1. Star Wars-Revenge of the Sith

2. Deep Blue Sea

3. Pulp Fiction?

4. Jurassic Park

5. Jackie Brown

6. Jungle Fever

7. A time to Kill?

7 1/2. Severely fucked up in unbreakable

8. Jumper

9. Lakeview Terrace

10. There's more but can't remember..

That brother has died more times than Prince's career smile

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No, he KILLED in A Time To Kill lol

....and Pulp Fiction! nod

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Reply #89 posted 08/09/10 6:47pm

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sexyAuntyFuka said:

Fact: Of the 19 main black characters in the Bond film 'Live & let die' ..17 are killed disbelief

The black witch doctor survived in the end of THAT^ film.

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