but read the article at the bottom link...

here's how it starts:

"This article by independent scholar Amelia Beamer was originally published in issue #101 of the British peer-reviewed journal Foundation: The International Review of Science Fiction.

I want to examine the popular ABC TV series Lost as an example of a recent cultural creation, that of the hypertext narrative. For those not already familiar with it, the series involves a large cast of characters marooned on a tropical island after a plane crash. It is a character-based narrative: episodes thread lengthy flashbacks of characters' backstories with immediate plots of day-to-day survival and interpersonal relationships, and a larger "mythos" involving the strange and apparently supernatural (or science-fictional) happenings on the island. I will argue that, though television as a medium is linear, Lost is essentially a hypertext narrative, interested in the side-to-side transactions and common histories of the characters, and that its hypertext content also plays with genre protocols, pop culture, audience interaction, and even the nature of storytelling...."

continued at:
http://gizmodo.com/553018...ehind-lost

Lets make out.

JustErin said:

I think that killed the thread!

Sorry, I always do that.

After the discovery and exploration of the concept of space, time has become the new frontier and new dimension to discover and explore.

Perhaps you´ve noticed that the concept of time, especially linear storytelling, has changed drastically in the past few decades.Particularly in the movies ( backwards storytelling, interchronological storylines and timejumps etc.) or even in music ( for instance that song by rapper Nas that was on one of his albums six or seven years ago where he would tell a story backwards).

Time is the dimension, the new challenge and the new frontier for mankind. We haven´t found out yet how to really cope with it.
Space has almost completely been cartographed and discovered ( except for the universe due to technological limitations).

But I digress. I really love LOST and it makes me sad that it´s going to end soon.

And I really, really like your threads Ufoclub.Especially when you talk about movies and TV.
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By the way...what happened to the whole storyline around Walt? They seem to have dropped that storyline completely. He seemed really important during the first couple of seasons but now he´s gone.

KoolEaze said:

I'm afraid that sometimes it's human error on the creators and then simply complications with the actors that have caused some of the leads to nowhere in LOST, but I really do think the show is about enjoying mystery and not answers, so they are presenting mystery and complications as the actual fruit of the narrative. As opposed to the wrap-ups, explanations, or solid connections.

I have NO idea how they will end this! But maybe it will be two of the current main characters on a beach looking at the next set of characters coming in.

ufoclub said:

You mean "the candidate" replacing Jacob and someone else replacing "the man in black" and both will look at new people arriving on the island? Could be but I think it will end with some sort of Adam and Eve scenario.
I´m still trying to figure out what all those hints at Egyptian mythology are about. Are Jacob and TMB Egyptian gods or aliens, or both?

I could watch this series forever. Too bad that they won´t continue it. Then again, maybe it ´s better that way. Sometimes milking a good story for too long can ruin a good series. The British series "The Prisoner" from the 1960s left me a bit underwhelmed after watching the last episode.

KoolEaze said:

I never watched the Prisoner but I'm curious about it. I saw a bit of the revamped one from this year.

KoolEaze said:

I believe they said some of the previous characters would be back in these new storylines. Michael showed up to Hurley to warn him but also to establish that he was dead from the freighter explosion. Walt did reappear briefly when Locke got off the island. It's been very exciting of late because you never know who will show up.

The earlier seasons, sure, particularly season one.

Now, it's just a race to the finish, characters and continuity be damned!

They probably should've made last season the final one.

purplesweat said:

But that would´ve meant more racing to the finish due to having less time to explain everything.
I don´t recall any continuity errors. Where do you see them?

purplesweat said:

I'm 98.6% with you. The season has, BY A LONG SHOT, been the absolute least enjoyable for me.

I will of course have to reserve final judgment for the very end, but they have very few episodes left to wrap this up in a way that feels complete.

I agree that this show has been about the journey/mystery and not answers per se. But that's what makes this last season so lifeless. OK, we get that Locke is someone else now and Jacob is searching for candidates. But this has basically turned into the mental equivalent of a car chase scene for about 6 weeks now.

What about Walt? What about the Dharma initiative?

There's still hope and I will be willing to retract part of my critique if they save face in the 9th innning. But the lion's share of this season has been extremely disappointing to me.

Fenwick said:

True. That whole Hanso Foundation/Alvar Hanso and Dharma Initiative storyline has been totally neglected in this season.

KoolEaze said:

Hmm, there's so many it's hard to know where to start.

The most recent one is Locke getting run over by Des a week after leaving flight 815, then Sun getting shot the day after leaving the flight yet they BOTH were rushed to hospital at the exact same time, side by side. Are the producers really that unobservant?

I really think that if they were stalling by season 3, they actually didn't have a plan from the start. I'd like to be wrong though.

Fenwick said:

Totally agree.

I've been desperate for some actual EMOTION and final character development, but they're always so busy going from one end of the island to the other, going to the little island, getting rescued, getting blown up etc etc

What makes seasons 1, 2 and 3 so great is the time spent really examining these people and their friendships. I think the creators have failed to see what made LOST so amazing were the incredibly layered, genuinely interesting characters. They seem to have listened to the moronic fanboys screaming MORE MYTHOLOGY and now we have it but at the expense of the usually amazing character interaction.

I actually think last episode, as horrible as it was, was the best because it had so much interaction and the characters working together and sacrificing for each other. It felt like the real LOST again from previous yrs not this parody of itself it's become.

Was this season any good?

I'm 1.5 seasons behind






I wonder why they chose "Dharma" project as the name for the project being that the Dharma is the teaching of the buddha.

TheVoid said:

What was the last ep you saw?

A casual fan would probably enjoy it still, most of us megafans are just desperate for the finale. It still has its awesome moments every now and then but it's nowhere near as consistent as it was.

purplesweat said:

It was in season 5 somewhere, but I can't for the love of me remember. I believe I was only halfway done with it.

I remember ben being shot (ben the child), and I remember them going to go see Jacob or some shit?

I can't remember. I just know it was all a bit confusing, and honestly I'm still trying to figure out why there were polar bears on the island and why Jack cries like a bitch so much.

TheVoid said:

Yeah, that's episode 10 of season 5, I think.

The polar bears were on the island as part of temperature readjustment experiments the Dharma Initiative did upon settling on the island (as in could they adjust polar bears to live in the tropics). Once Dharma was gassed, I guess the bears escaped the cages and swam to the main island to live.

As for Jack, we'll never know but it makes for great gifs...


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TheVoid said:

They had an episode that sort of concluded / rounded out Ben that was AMAZING.