ZombieKitten said: meow85 said: Why are people still stuck on this? Piercing is merely a means of decoration for most people. It's no more an attempt at self-expression or rebellion for most of us than what colour t-shirt we've got on. it is these days yes I remember in the 80s if a guy had one earring it meant something - like he was gay or had been to prison or something and good heavens when George Michael was all over Countdown wearing 2 earrings people just about had a fit punks and goths pierced their faces back then, but it's taken a good 20 years or so for that stuff to be mainstream and a choice anybody can make for themselves without being labelled. I still remember a time not too long when the "bad boy" in a boyband was rebellious because he wore a lot of hair gel. Now in 2010, if the bad boy isn't sporting a minimum of this kind of business, he's a pussy.: IN A BOYBAND, yet. This sort of thing is well into the mainstream. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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ZombieKitten said: ernestsewell said: I don't fully buy that. Decoration? I think overt decoraction comes from a lack of self-worth, and the need for some attention, whether it's a glance from a stranger, or even someone confronting a piercee by saying "Why is that in your eye brow?" Besides, most lip pierces are retarded looking, and I've yet to see one that adds anything to a person's beauty. Yes, I get it, it's different, it's out of the norm, but whatever. Wear two different shoes for fuck's sake. But leave the jewelry out of a cheek or a lip. It's gross. that is kind of what I learned from my painted nails thread - guys think girls who do it are insecure No doubt that's true for some women. I can't speak for anyone else, but when I paint my nails it's just because I think lime green and hot pink are kickass colours. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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ZombieKitten said: meow85 said: But if they allow earrings, what's the difference? If an eyebrow hoop is counted as self-mutilation, then logically wouldn't Ethel the Organ Lady's cat-inspired "folk art" earrings also be? An unnatural hole is an unnatural hole, innit? they aren't clip ons? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: ZombieKitten said: that is kind of what I learned from my painted nails thread - guys think girls who do it are insecure No doubt that's true for some women. I can't speak for anyone else, but when I paint my nails it's just because I think lime green and hot pink are kickass colours. there was the whole argument of being sexy vs TRYING to be sexy, if you had to try you were insecure, or something like that anyway Baby Pom is those colours | |
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ernestsewell said: meow85 said: Why are people still stuck on this? Piercing is merely a means of decoration for most people. It's no more an attempt at self-expression or rebellion for most of us than what colour t-shirt we've got on. I don't fully buy that. Decoration? I think overt decoraction comes from a lack of self-worth, and the need for some attention, whether it's a glance from a stranger, or even someone confronting a piercee by saying "Why is that in your eye brow?" Besides, most lip pierces are retarded looking, and I've yet to see one that adds anything to a person's beauty. Yes, I get it, it's different, it's out of the norm, but whatever. Wear two different shoes for fuck's sake. But leave the jewelry out of a cheek or a lip. It's gross. goodness me, aren't we judgmental! many people find piercings attractive- just because you personally don't see the appeal doesn't automatically render them "gross". [Edited 4/7/10 0:45am] | |
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meow85 said: luv4u said: You are your own person, you do want you want to do. I don't think God would mind, after all he gave everyone "free will". If earrings are fine, nose rings are fine. Otherwise the Sunday School teacher might need a talkin' to. Bitchslap them Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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ernestsewell said: meow85 said: Why are people still stuck on this? Piercing is merely a means of decoration for most people. It's no more an attempt at self-expression or rebellion for most of us than what colour t-shirt we've got on. I don't fully buy that. Decoration? I think overt decoraction comes from a lack of self-worth, and the need for some attention, whether it's a glance from a stranger, or even someone confronting a piercee by saying "Why is that in your eye brow?" Besides, most lip pierces are retarded looking, and I've yet to see one that adds anything to a person's beauty. Yes, I get it, it's different, it's out of the norm, but whatever. Wear two different shoes for fuck's sake. But leave the jewelry out of a cheek or a lip. It's gross. Co-sign | |
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Get clear retainers.
They won't be totally hidden, but they will be in place of the regular jewelry while the piercing heals. Basically, no one will notice unless they're all up in your face. As for work, when I got my monroe my job didn't care as long as I took it out during work. I don't know your church though. P.S. I had my eye brow pierced as well and I certainly didn't get either piercings because I wanted to be 'different' O.O. [Edited 4/7/10 4:21am] Your lips would make a lollipop too happy. | |
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you can hide them piercings from the preacher, but not from Jesus. It's part of the reason why I don't even bother to hide my pills anymore. | |
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Girl4both said: luv4u said: Please let her see this thread Does your workplace or place of worship not allow them? Okay---confession time I'm not a baptized Jehovah's Witness but I'm studying to become one, and I would probably get 'talked to' for the piercing etc. Works a little differently with the hall VS Chruches etc. [Edited 4/6/10 19:24pm] and u came to the org with this? so did you really want a theocratic answer or did you want folk to jump all over the JW issue? if your conscience was ok with it you wouldnt have to ask..... be yourself? well it looks like yourself is telling you this decision doesnt fit in with the other choices you've made in your life- or vice-versa. LOVE HARD. | |
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evenstar3 said: ernestsewell said: I don't fully buy that. Decoration? I think overt decoraction comes from a lack of self-worth, and the need for some attention, whether it's a glance from a stranger, or even someone confronting a piercee by saying "Why is that in your eye brow?" Besides, most lip pierces are retarded looking, and I've yet to see one that adds anything to a person's beauty. Yes, I get it, it's different, it's out of the norm, but whatever. Wear two different shoes for fuck's sake. But leave the jewelry out of a cheek or a lip. It's gross. goodness me, aren't we judgmental! many people find piercings attractive- just because you personally don't see the appeal doesn't automatically render them "gross". So now it's judgmental because it doesn't agree with your opinion? How judgmental of YOU, I'd say. They're gross to me. | |
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If its going to cause friction with your church you are probably better off not getting it done.
How about your clit instead? Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
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Currently, I have a big hoop in my nose, a diamond labret, and 2 tongue rings.
Jobs, I kinda understand if you are in a super professional occupation, but if you're working at McDonalds and they have a problem with it, fuck 'em. Church is ridiculous though; if they can't accept you for who you are and how you choose to present yourself, then they are a shitty fucking church that you should vear away from anyway! I do nothing professionally. I only do things for fun. johnart: Acrylic's old bras is where tits of all sizes go to frolic after they die. Tit Heaven. | |
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Aelis said: ernestsewell said: I don't fully buy that. Decoration? I think overt decoraction comes from a lack of self-worth, and the need for some attention, whether it's a glance from a stranger, or even someone confronting a piercee by saying "Why is that in your eye brow?" Besides, most lip pierces are retarded looking, and I've yet to see one that adds anything to a person's beauty. Yes, I get it, it's different, it's out of the norm, but whatever. Wear two different shoes for fuck's sake. But leave the jewelry out of a cheek or a lip. It's gross. Co-sign It is my opinion that most men look like idiots when they have facial hair. Therefore, obviously, no man should be allowed to wear a moustache, and he shall lose out on job opportunities and church attendance if he does. That argument makes just about as much sense. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Acrylic said: Currently, I have a big hoop in my nose, a diamond labret, and 2 tongue rings.
Jobs, I kinda understand if you are in a super professional occupation, but if you're working at McDonalds and they have a problem with it, fuck 'em. Church is ridiculous though; if they can't accept you for who you are and how you choose to present yourself, then they are a shitty fucking church that you should vear away from anyway! "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: ernestsewell said: I don't fully buy that. Decoration? I think overt decoraction comes from a lack of self-worth, and the need for some attention, whether it's a glance from a stranger, or even someone confronting a piercee by saying "Why is that in your eye brow?" Besides, most lip pierces are retarded looking, and I've yet to see one that adds anything to a person's beauty. Yes, I get it, it's different, it's out of the norm, but whatever. Wear two different shoes for fuck's sake. But leave the jewelry out of a cheek or a lip. It's gross. Whether something is outside of the norm IMO falls into the category of being a regional cultural variation. Like I've said before, in Vancouver it's not unsual to see a bank manager or university professor or real estate agent with facial piercings or visible tattoos. I can certainly see how being pierced when you live in an area where it's less common could be and probably is a scream for attention. But when your History professor and boss have more metal in their body than you do I don't think that's the case. One of my bosses at a former workplace used to casually go out and get new piercings on her lunch breaks, no joke. Around here it's really no big deal. Piercing really is just another fashion choice, and usually isn't presented or interpreted as anything more. I totally agree with this, except I don't get lip piercings. They seem so impractical! well, I guess most piercings serve no practical purpose but the lip one seems like it would just be in the way. My Legacy
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NDRU said: meow85 said: Whether something is outside of the norm IMO falls into the category of being a regional cultural variation. Like I've said before, in Vancouver it's not unsual to see a bank manager or university professor or real estate agent with facial piercings or visible tattoos. I can certainly see how being pierced when you live in an area where it's less common could be and probably is a scream for attention. But when your History professor and boss have more metal in their body than you do I don't think that's the case. One of my bosses at a former workplace used to casually go out and get new piercings on her lunch breaks, no joke. Around here it's really no big deal. Piercing really is just another fashion choice, and usually isn't presented or interpreted as anything more. I totally agree with this, except I don't get lip piercings. They seem so impractical! well, I guess most piercings serve no practical purpose but the lip one seems like it would just be in the way. Most piercings serve no practical purpose. Most of them are a minor inconvenience, actually. Any woman who's ever snagged her earrings with her hairbrush or stabbed herself in the neck with the backing could tell you that. [Edited 4/7/10 10:39am] "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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I can understand what she is saying about the whole church thing. Let me break it down:
Depending on the church you go to, church folk are on this trip about body piercings and even tattoos. They say that those acts are forms of mutilating your body - the body that was created by God...so if you are getting any kind of piercings or tattoos then you are sort of looked down upon in the church. But of course the people saying this very thing have their ears pierced wearing earrings, so my thing is, if you going to PREACH it then you need to look at yourself. This way of thinking is totally rediculous to me, then again, you still have church folks who look down upon people who "come as they are" meaning, they come to church in casual clothes as opposed to dressing up in suits or dresses. Now, my opinion is this, if you want piercings, then get them...but if you feel that it will hinder your job, then I would take some consideration to that first. Now as far as church goes, if you really feel conflicted with what whoever it is will say to you regarding your piercings, and THAT particular church is important to you, then what's wrong with taking them out on the days you go to church???? I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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missfee said: I can understand what she is saying about the whole church thing. Let me break it down:
Depending on the church you go to, church folk are on this trip about body piercings and even tattoos. They say that those acts are forms of mutilating your body - the body that was created by God...so if you are getting any kind of piercings or tattoos then you are sort of looked down upon in the church. But of course the people saying this very thing have their ears pierced wearing earrings, so my thing is, if you going to PREACH it then you need to look at yourself. This way of thinking is totally rediculous to me, then again, you still have church folks who look down upon people who "come as they are" meaning, they come to church in casual clothes as opposed to dressing up in suits or dresses. Now, my opinion is this, if you want piercings, then get them...but if you feel that it will hinder your job, then I would take some consideration to that first. Now as far as church goes, if you really feel conflicted with what whoever it is will say to you regarding your piercings, and THAT particular church is important to you, then what's wrong with taking them out on the days you go to church???? If somebody has breast implants, are they allowed to attend these churches? You don't get much closer to meaningless mutilation of the human form than plastic surgery. Long story short, a church that won't take you as you are is not a church you want any part of. God loves you, allegedly, not your church hat. [Edited 4/7/10 11:28am] "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: NDRU said: I totally agree with this, except I don't get lip piercings. They seem so impractical! well, I guess most piercings serve no practical purpose but the lip one seems like it would just be in the way. Most piercings serve no practical purpose. Most of them are a minor inconvenience, actually. Any woman who's ever snagged her earrings with her hairbrush or stabbed herself in the neck with the backing could tell you that. that's true, but I have an earring and ignore it most of the time. I could ignore navel, nipple, eyebrow, nose piercings much of the time, too, but lip? My Legacy
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NDRU said: meow85 said: Most piercings serve no practical purpose. Most of them are a minor inconvenience, actually. Any woman who's ever snagged her earrings with her hairbrush or stabbed herself in the neck with the backing could tell you that. that's true, but I have an earring and ignore it most of the time. I could ignore navel, nipple, eyebrow, nose piercings much of the time, too, but lip? Just like anything, you get used to it. I have a Monroe (note: this is not my mouth) It felt strange and heavy for a few days, but after that I didn't notice it anymore. I do have to be a bit more careful about how I drink, but that's it. From my experience, it's MUCH harder to ignore nipple piercings. [Edited 4/7/10 12:40pm] "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: NDRU said: that's true, but I have an earring and ignore it most of the time. I could ignore navel, nipple, eyebrow, nose piercings much of the time, too, but lip? Just like anything, you get used to it. I have a Monroe (note: this is not my mouth) It felt strange and heavy for a few days, but after that I didn't notice it anymore. I do have to be a bit more careful about how I drink, but that's it. From my experience, it's MUCH harder to ignore nipple piercings. [Edited 4/7/10 12:40pm] yeah, that's not too bad, I'm thinking more of hoops in your lower lip My Legacy
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I don't understand why someone would proceed with something that they KNOW will possibly cause problems with people/situations that they care about.
Job or congregation frowns on facial piercings? Don't do it. Or deal with the drama. That you knew would come. To go ahead with an action that you'd feel compelled to constantly hide isn't really being true to yourself. Take a stand and stick to it. And face whatever consequences like a woman. | |
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NDRU said: yeah, that's not too bad, I'm thinking more of hoops in your lower lip My sister's got one and she says aside from getting used to the added weight she doesn't notice much of a difference either. But like me, she's sprung a leak a few times trying to drink. Kissing people with mouth piercings can be quite nice once you get used to it. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Uhope said: I don't understand why someone would proceed with something that they KNOW will possibly cause problems with people/situations that they care about.
Job or congregation frowns on facial piercings? Don't do it. Or deal with the drama. That you knew would come. To go ahead with an action that you'd feel compelled to constantly hide isn't really being true to yourself. Take a stand and stick to it. And face whatever consequences like a woman. I'm inclined to agree with this post. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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ernestsewell said: evenstar3 said: goodness me, aren't we judgmental! many people find piercings attractive- just because you personally don't see the appeal doesn't automatically render them "gross". So now it's judgmental because it doesn't agree with your opinion? How judgmental of YOU, I'd say. They're gross to me. nooo no, what's judgmental was your declaration that it must all stem from a lack of self-worth! i kinda loathe monroe piercings on anyone, but i'm not silly enough to transfer my dislike of their appearance onto assumptions about the person sporting one. | |
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thejason said: Hilarious and on topic! We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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evenstar3 said: ernestsewell said: So now it's judgmental because it doesn't agree with your opinion? How judgmental of YOU, I'd say. They're gross to me. nooo no, what's judgmental was your declaration that it must all stem from a lack of self-worth! i kinda loathe monroe piercings on anyone, but i'm not silly enough to transfer my dislike of their appearance onto assumptions about the person sporting one. Thank you for bringing it back to your very valid point, instead of letting him turn around into some oversimplified petty garbage. | |
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