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Thread started 03/18/10 8:17am

ernestsewell

One Year Old Happy Meal Aged Well - But Should It?

If you eat McDonald's after this, you're disgusting.

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Have you ever wondered what a McDonald's Happy Meal looks like after it's sat on a shelf (not in a freezer) for a year? This seems like one of those things I would learn accidentally, but writer Nonna Joann Bruso decided to find out on purpose.

The results? Not as disgusting as you might think, which itself is sort of disgusting.

She wrote:
    It smelled delicious for a few days. I’d get a whiff of those yummy French fries every time I walked into my office. After a week or so, you could hardly smell it. My husband worried that when the food began to decompose, there would be a terrible odor in our home. He also worried the food would attract ants and mice. He questioned my sanity.

    NOPE, no worries at all. My Happy Meal is one year old today and it looks pretty good. It NEVER smelled bad. The food did NOT decompose. It did NOT get moldy, at all.


The pitiful, slightly pained expression on the Littlest Pet Shop dog included with the meal says it all.
Reply #1 posted 03/18/10 8:19am

Shyra

I find this hard to believe. The bread alone should have molded.
Reply #2 posted 03/18/10 8:20am

ernestsewell

Shyra said:

I find this hard to believe. The bread alone should have molded.

Okay let's read between the lines: IT'S NOT REAL FOOD.
Reply #3 posted 03/18/10 8:23am

CarrieMpls

Ex-Moderator
I had a shamrock shake and a medium fries last night from McDonalds.
The last time I ate there was a year ago yesterday, when I had the same thing. lol

Once a year is enough for me.
Reply #4 posted 03/18/10 8:25am

Poiple

shocked omfg But it's got to be worse than that for ME not to eat it! Loves me some McD's cheeseburger and fries!
Reply #5 posted 03/18/10 8:25am

Genesia

Folks need to understand the basics of food spoilage. To get moldy (or exhibit other visible signs of spoilage) the food must have a certain percentage of available water. Most bacteria (including clostridium botulinum) require available water of at least 0.91. Below 0.80 most molds cannot be grown and below 0.60 no microbiological growth is possible.

So all you've really demonstrated here is that the food is too dried out to develop the above kinds of spoilage. That doesn't mean it's safe to eat.
I mean if he did have sex he would break every rule Jehova's have regarding premarital sex so Prince is really just friends with them all anyway.
Reply #6 posted 03/18/10 8:25am

Shyra

ernestsewell said:

Shyra said:

I find this hard to believe. The bread alone should have molded.

Okay let's read between the lines: IT'S NOT REAL FOOD.



Okay, now I'm embarrassed. I'm so fuckin gullible! But, hell. It looked real!
Reply #7 posted 03/18/10 8:28am

Poiple

Shyra said:

ernestsewell said:


Okay let's read between the lines: IT'S NOT REAL FOOD.



Okay, now I'm embarrassed. I'm so fuckin gullible! But, hell. It looked real!


No, I think it is real food (as in the food that McD's sells)--I think Ernest's remark is poking a bit of fun saying that McD's food is not real food.
Reply #8 posted 03/18/10 8:45am

ScarletScandal

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Reply #9 posted 03/18/10 8:50am

ernestsewell

Shyra said:

ernestsewell said:


Okay let's read between the lines: IT'S NOT REAL FOOD.



Okay, now I'm embarrassed. I'm so fuckin gullible! But, hell. It looked real!

McDonald's has never served real food. Why are you surprised now? PRESERVATIVES have proven this story to be true. That is the burger and fries she bought a year ago. Anyone who thinks McDonald's is healthy or real food deserves the fat bottom they're sitting on. (remember that woman who sued them because her daughter was a tubbo?)
Reply #10 posted 03/18/10 8:51am

ernestsewell

Poiple said:

I think Ernest's remark is poking a bit of fun saying that McD's food is not real food.


Exactly. Food is so processed these days, that's it's not "food".
Reply #11 posted 03/18/10 8:54am

ernestsewell

Here is what McDonald's site shows is in a cheeseburger.

100% Beef Patty
100% pure USDA inspected beef; no fillers, no extenders. Prepared with grill seasoning (salt, black pepper).

Regular Bun
Enriched flour (bleached wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid, enzymes), water, high fructose corn syrup, sugar, yeast, soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated soybean oil, contains 2% or less of the following: salt, calcium sulfate, calcium carbonate, wheat gluten, ammonium sulfate, ammonium chloride, dough conditioners (sodium stearoyl lactylate, datem, ascorbic acid, azodicarbonamide, mono- and diglycerides, ethoxylated monoglycerides, monocalcium phosphate, enzymes, guar gum, calcium peroxide, soy flour), calcium propionate and sodium propionate (preservatives), soy lecithin.
CONTAINS: WHEAT AND SOY.

Pasteurized Process American Cheese
Milk, water, milkfat, cheese culture, sodium citrate, salt, citric acid, sorbic acid (preservative), sodium phosphate, artificial color, lactic acid, acetic acid, enzymes, soy lecithin (added for slice separation).
CONTAINS: MILK AND SOY LECITHIN.

Ketchup
Tomato concentrate from red ripe tomatoes, distilled vinegar, high fructose corn syrup, water, corn syrup, salt, natural flavors (vegetable source).

Mustard
Distilled vinegar, water, mustard seed, salt, turmeric, paprika, spice extractive.

Pickle Slices
Cucumbers, water, distilled vinegar, salt, calcium chloride, alum, potassium sorbate (preservative), natural flavors (plant source), polysorbate 80, extractives of turmeric (color).

Onions
Chopped onions.

Why the fuck is there high fructose corn syrup is BREAD? And all tha tother shit? Do you know that there's only about 8 items on a McDonald's menu that does NOT have some form of sugar in it? ONLY EIGHT, out of how many?????
Reply #12 posted 03/18/10 9:04am

Shyra

Poiple said:

Shyra said:




Okay, now I'm embarrassed. I'm so fuckin gullible! But, hell. It looked real!


No, I think it is real food (as in the food that McD's sells)--I think Ernest's remark is poking a bit of fun saying that McD's food is not real food.



Oh, okay! My Alzheimer's has kicked in today!
Reply #13 posted 03/18/10 9:09am

TheVoid

Poiple said:

Shyra said:




Okay, now I'm embarrassed. I'm so fuckin gullible! But, hell. It looked real!


No, I think it is real food (as in the food that McD's sells)--I think Ernest's remark is poking a bit of fun saying that McD's food is not real food.

Yes, that's what Ernest meant.


Actually, all of McDonalds products(I don't like to call it food either), have petro-based chemicals in them to keep them perserved for VERY long periods of time---remember, these are standard items that get shipped all over the US (and elsewhere) which must keep their flavor---no matter what MickeyDees who walk into, all the food taste the same globally--that itself is an amazing feet for any restaurant chain.

I believe chicken mcnuggets even have formaldehyde in them.



Basically, your food has been 'embalmed' before it reaches your mouth.
Reply #14 posted 03/18/10 9:16am

thejason

TheVoid said:

that itself is an amazing feet for any restaurant chain.


dude, dont ever change, I meen it...
Reply #15 posted 03/18/10 9:16am

Evvy

honestly Mcdonald's isnt my thing- but I will eat their fish sandwhich or chicken wraps with fries and a thick shake when I get a cravin'.

have you noticed how they have "freshened" up their appearance- they advertise with fresh salads, wraps, fresh fruit yogurt parfaits and bottled water.
LOVE HARD.
Reply #16 posted 03/18/10 9:16am

TheVoid

thejason said:

TheVoid said:

that itself is an amazing feet for any restaurant chain.


dude, dont ever change, I meen it...

falloff falloff

I misspelled something didn't I? neutral
Reply #17 posted 03/18/10 10:04am

Poiple

ernestsewell said:

Here is what McDonald's site shows is in a cheeseburger.

100% Beef Patty
100% pure USDA inspected beef; no fillers, no extenders. Prepared with grill seasoning (salt, black pepper).

Regular Bun
Enriched flour (bleached wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid, enzymes), water, high fructose corn syrup, sugar, yeast, soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated soybean oil, contains 2% or less of the following: salt, calcium sulfate, calcium carbonate, wheat gluten, ammonium sulfate, ammonium chloride, dough conditioners (sodium stearoyl lactylate, datem, ascorbic acid, azodicarbonamide, mono- and diglycerides, ethoxylated monoglycerides, monocalcium phosphate, enzymes, guar gum, calcium peroxide, soy flour), calcium propionate and sodium propionate (preservatives), soy lecithin.
CONTAINS: WHEAT AND SOY.

Pasteurized Process American Cheese
Milk, water, milkfat, cheese culture, sodium citrate, salt, citric acid, sorbic acid (preservative), sodium phosphate, artificial color, lactic acid, acetic acid, enzymes, soy lecithin (added for slice separation).
CONTAINS: MILK AND SOY LECITHIN.

Ketchup
Tomato concentrate from red ripe tomatoes, distilled vinegar, high fructose corn syrup, water, corn syrup, salt, natural flavors (vegetable source).

Mustard
Distilled vinegar, water, mustard seed, salt, turmeric, paprika, spice extractive.

Pickle Slices
Cucumbers, water, distilled vinegar, salt, calcium chloride, alum, potassium sorbate (preservative), natural flavors (plant source), polysorbate 80, extractives of turmeric (color).

Onions
Chopped onions.

Why the fuck is there high fructose corn syrup is BREAD? And all tha tother shit? Do you know that there's only about 8 items on a McDonald's menu that does NOT have some form of sugar in it? ONLY EIGHT, out of how many?????



drooling
Reply #18 posted 03/18/10 4:50pm

piccolo7

l wouldnt even entertain mcdonalds food or let alone eat them
all of them are processed food....

even the burgers are and tastes like rubber and horsemeat
how can u eat those or let ur kids eat them
lve heard from some people who actually have worked in mcdonald in the past told me it was true tht the burgers are actually made from horsemeat.....

now tht really is GROSS..... feeling ill
Reply #19 posted 03/18/10 4:55pm

Dave1992

I'm so glad I don't eat that shit.
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Reply #20 posted 03/18/10 4:59pm

FauxReal

I had some of that shit yesterday, enjoyed in enough, and don't have a fat bottom.
Reply #21 posted 03/18/10 5:06pm

DesireeNevermind

ya know...those micky dees buns don't taste real. something off about them. I like their fish filets but i try not to eat the whole bun. it tastes...i dunno...very airy and too soft or something. Almost like a cotton ball coated in gelatin or fat. when i go...it's for the fish filet or the fries. the fries don't taste as good since they stopped frying them in beef fat. fast food is overall bad and fake food (fillers, hormones, mystery meat) but if ya gotta go that route then probably taco bell or subway are the least evil. Maybe KFC if you get the grilled chicken or the chicken fingers. Fuck that milky ass cole slaw though. barf
Reply #22 posted 03/18/10 5:35pm

728huey

I read a book by Morgan Spurlock he wrote after doing the movie documentary Super Size Me, and he talked about how before he did the movie he had a show on MTV called I Bet You Will which was sort of a lite knockoff of Fear Factor where he challenged people off the street to do silly stunts to win money. He wrote about how he attempted to play a prank on an MTV producer by hiding a McChicken sandwich in the producer's bookshelf. He thought that after a few days the sandwich would get rotten and start to smell really bad. He kept call the producer after a few days to see if he had noticed anything, and the producer kept telling him no. AT first he though he was just bullshitting him and didn't want to admit that the sandwich spoiled, so he just assumed that the producer was lying to him.

Well, MTV canceled his show six months later. About a year later Morgan Spurlock got a call from the MTV producer which indicated shock and amazement. The producer said that he was rearranging some books in his library, and he found the McChicken sandwich that Morgan had placed there. What was shocking to him was that, while the bun was turning into powder and the lettuce leaf looked like decomposed leaves, the chicken fillet itself was still intact and looked the same way it did when Morgan first bought it.

BTW, I read some report online about the company McDonald's buys its burger meat from. This company takes fatty tissue from the cows they slaughter which they used to throw away as unfit for human consumption and treat it with ammonia to get rid of all the e coli and salmonella germs, then grind it up and mix it into the regular beef as filler. ill feeling ill From that point on, I said I would not eat any burgers from McDonald's. Worse yet, this same meat is being fed to children in public schools. sick barf pissed

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Reply #23 posted 03/18/10 5:40pm

meow85

Never eat food that keeps like that. Food is supposed to expire.

I also won't eat those Uncle Ben's Bistro Express rice things. You can keep them on the shelf for years, and yet they contain meat. That's not right.
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
Reply #24 posted 03/18/10 5:57pm

Cuddles

ernestsewell said:

If you eat McDonald's after this, you're disgusting.

source



Have you ever wondered what a McDonald's Happy Meal looks like after it's sat on a shelf (not in a freezer) for a year? This seems like one of those things I would learn accidentally, but writer Nonna Joann Bruso decided to find out on purpose.

The results? Not as disgusting as you might think, which itself is sort of disgusting.

She wrote:
    It smelled delicious for a few days. I’d get a whiff of those yummy French fries every time I walked into my office. After a week or so, you could hardly smell it. My husband worried that when the food began to decompose, there would be a terrible odor in our home. He also worried the food would attract ants and mice. He questioned my sanity.

    NOPE, no worries at all. My Happy Meal is one year old today and it looks pretty good. It NEVER smelled bad. The food did NOT decompose. It did NOT get moldy, at all.


The pitiful, slightly pained expression on the Littlest Pet Shop dog included with the meal says it all.


i love how the toy emulates the food
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Reply #25 posted 03/18/10 6:09pm

SilverlakePhil

Gross. Since I became a Vegetarian, I only go there for Coffee cuz it's cheaper then Starbucks. I think I'll go back to Starbucks.
Reply #26 posted 03/18/10 6:10pm

Cuddles

SilverlakePhil said:

Gross. Since I became a Vegetarian, I only go there for Coffee cuz it's cheaper then Starbucks. I think I'll go back to Starbucks.



mcdonalds coffee has lard in it
To make a thief, make an owner; to create crime, create laws.
Reply #27 posted 03/18/10 6:18pm

Fauxie

I have two cheeseburgers and jumbo french fries a couple of times a month. I think that's fine considering all the healthy stuff I eat. smile Everything in moderation, even nasty junk food. lol
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Reply #28 posted 03/18/10 6:20pm

meow85

Cuddles said:

SilverlakePhil said:

Gross. Since I became a Vegetarian, I only go there for Coffee cuz it's cheaper then Starbucks. I think I'll go back to Starbucks.



mcdonalds coffee has lard in it

According to a friend of mine who works for Starbucks, the 'bucks coffee and McD's coffee is actually the exact same product. lol
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Reply #29 posted 03/18/10 6:22pm

ernestsewell

meow85 said:

Never eat food that keeps like that. Food is supposed to expire.

Some guy on Oprah the other day made a good point, similar to yours. "Food is supposed to die. Don't eat anything that won't rot. Don't eat anything you can't pronounce, don't eat anything your grandmother wouldn't recognize."
Reply #30 posted 03/18/10 6:23pm

Efan

ernestsewell said:

meow85 said:

Never eat food that keeps like that. Food is supposed to expire.

Some guy on Oprah the other day made a good point, similar to yours. "Food is supposed to die. Don't eat anything that won't rot. Don't eat anything you can't pronounce, don't eat anything your grandmother wouldn't recognize."


Do you mean Michael Pollan? He's brilliant, and he's written several outstanding books on this topic.
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Reply #31 posted 03/18/10 6:38pm

meow85

ernestsewell said:

meow85 said:

Never eat food that keeps like that. Food is supposed to expire.

Some guy on Oprah the other day made a good point, similar to yours. "Food is supposed to die. Don't eat anything that won't rot. Don't eat anything you can't pronounce, don't eat anything your grandmother wouldn't recognize."

Generally I agree with that, but I always found the "don't eat anything you can't pronounce' bit a little condescending. Isn't that sort of assuming that most people can't handle multi-syllabic words? And what if you CAN easily rattle off the names of all the chemical ingredients?
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
Reply #32 posted 03/18/10 6:49pm

Efan

meow85 said:

ernestsewell said:


Some guy on Oprah the other day made a good point, similar to yours. "Food is supposed to die. Don't eat anything that won't rot. Don't eat anything you can't pronounce, don't eat anything your grandmother wouldn't recognize."

Generally I agree with that, but I always found the "don't eat anything you can't pronounce' bit a little condescending. Isn't that sort of assuming that most people can't handle multi-syllabic words? And what if you CAN easily rattle off the names of all the chemical ingredients?


It's a general rule. You can't get too pedantic with it. He's also added a more general rule of avoiding any ingredients that a normal person wouldn't have in his or her cupboard. It's the same principle.
Reply #33 posted 03/18/10 7:06pm

ernestsewell

Efan said:

ernestsewell said:


Some guy on Oprah the other day made a good point, similar to yours. "Food is supposed to die. Don't eat anything that won't rot. Don't eat anything you can't pronounce, don't eat anything your grandmother wouldn't recognize."


Do you mean Michael Pollan? He's brilliant, and he's written several outstanding books on this topic.

Yes, that's how I meant. He is right on the money.
Reply #34 posted 03/18/10 7:16pm

ernestsewell

meow85 said:

ernestsewell said:


Some guy on Oprah the other day made a good point, similar to yours. "Food is supposed to die. Don't eat anything that won't rot. Don't eat anything you can't pronounce, don't eat anything your grandmother wouldn't recognize."

Generally I agree with that, but I always found the "don't eat anything you can't pronounce' bit a little condescending. Isn't that sort of assuming that most people can't handle multi-syllabic words? And what if you CAN easily rattle off the names of all the chemical ingredients?

I don't think it's an assumption at all, and I don't believe it's condescending. It's a good rule of thumb, which usually allows for the ever-present sliding scale of give-and-take.

However, if you're going to have a choice between bread with azodicarbonamide, mono- and diglycerides, and ethoxylated monoglycerides or just flour, yeast, water, and salt, it's an easy choice, no?

If a person can rattle off those words, there is a good chance they also know where they are on the Level of Shit.
Reply #35 posted 03/18/10 7:22pm

RenHoek

moderator

thejason said:

TheVoid said:

that itself is an amazing feet for any restaurant chain.


dude, dont ever change, I meen it...


ya just gotta love it... lol what should we call'em?? hmmm Dan-isms? Danglish?? Voidles... nah, I happen to prefer Danglish... nod
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Reply #36 posted 03/21/10 11:33am

AnckSuNamun

CarrieMpls said:

I had a shamrock shake and a medium fries last night from McDonalds.
The last time I ate there was a year ago yesterday, when I had the same thing. lol

Once a year is enough for me.

Shamrock Shakes....seriously? I've been wanting to try those for a long time. I thought they discontinued them here.
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Reply #37 posted 03/21/10 11:36am

IAintTheOne

Also you do realize that Margarine is 1 molecule away from plastic. you can leave it outside and flies won't touch it
Reply #38 posted 03/21/10 11:46am

noimageatall

IAintTheOne said:

Also you do realize that Margarine is 1 molecule away from plastic. you can leave it outside and flies won't touch it


If food doesn't attract ants, flies, and mice, you know you'd better leave it alone. Even shit attracts flies. lol

I sent this to everyone in my family last year. Some of them just don't care. disbelief
"Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack
Reply #39 posted 03/21/10 11:52am

IAintTheOne

noimageatall said:

IAintTheOne said:

Also you do realize that Margarine is 1 molecule away from plastic. you can leave it outside and flies won't touch it


If food doesn't attract ants, flies, and mice, you know you'd better leave it alone. Even shit attracts flies. lol

I sent this to everyone in my family last year. Some of them just don't care. disbelief


sad isnt it?
Reply #40 posted 03/21/10 11:54am

noimageatall

IAintTheOne said:

noimageatall said:



If food doesn't attract ants, flies, and mice, you know you'd better leave it alone. Even shit attracts flies. lol

I sent this to everyone in my family last year. Some of them just don't care. disbelief


sad isnt it?


Yes...and if I hear, "Well, we all gotta die from somethin'!" again I'm going to kill someone.
"Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack
Reply #41 posted 03/21/10 11:55am

IAintTheOne

noimageatall said:

IAintTheOne said:



sad isnt it?


Yes...and if I hear, "Well, we all gotta die from somethin'!" again I'm going to kill someone.



lol then they would've gotten what they wanted right
Reply #42 posted 03/21/10 12:01pm

ernestsewell

As a side note: My friend is uploading Food, Inc. to his server today. I'm going to snag it and watch it this week. I have a feeling I'll be eating even more differently before the week expires.
Reply #43 posted 03/21/10 12:36pm

noimageatall

IAintTheOne said:

noimageatall said:



Yes...and if I hear, "Well, we all gotta die from somethin'!" again I'm going to kill someone.



lol then they would've gotten what they wanted right


so it's all good then! cool
"Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack
Reply #44 posted 03/21/10 3:13pm

kimrachell

IAintTheOne said:

Also you do realize that Margarine is 1 molecule away from plastic. you can leave it outside and flies won't touch it


that's why i don't use it! yuck!
Reply #45 posted 03/22/10 5:52am

Poiple

IAintTheOne said:

Also you do realize that Margarine is 1 molecule away from plastic. you can leave it outside and flies won't touch it



This may be true, but there are lots of benign, ordinary things that are "one molecule" away from something else that is completely different. One example--hydrogen peroxide is not one molecule, but only one atom away from water. And you sure don't want to down a quart (liter for our metric friends biggrin ) of hydrogen peroxide.
Reply #46 posted 03/22/10 11:13am

evenstar3

FauxReal said:

I had some of that shit yesterday, enjoyed in enough, and don't have a fat bottom.


me too! highfive

shamrock shakes and fries are amaaazing drool
Reply #47 posted 03/22/10 11:23am

NDRU

I get this odd reaction when I eat McDonalds. Part way through the meal I almost always hiccup. WTF is that all about?
Reply #48 posted 03/22/10 11:26am

NDRU

This is basically the same result the guy got in Super Size me, too.

I've done my own experiments by losing a french fry under my car seat and finding it in perfect condition god-knows-when later
Reply #49 posted 03/22/10 11:31am

Efan

NDRU said:

I get this odd reaction when I eat McDonalds. Part way through the meal I almost always hiccup. WTF is that all about?


I used to get that too! (Back when I ate it.) I could never figure it out.
Reply #50 posted 03/22/10 12:12pm

missmad

there is a video on utube where the lady kept them for 4 yrs they never changed.

i really gotta stop eating this stuff. feel crap after eating it but it tastes good- i guess the best option is 2 make my own...what other options are there to a hamburger, storewise?
Reply #51 posted 03/22/10 12:30pm

ernestsewell

missmad said:

there is a video on utube where the lady kept them for 4 yrs they never changed.

i really gotta stop eating this stuff. feel crap after eating it but it tastes good- i guess the best option is 2 make my own...what other options are there to a hamburger, storewise?

It's not that a hamburger is bad. It's the extra shit McD's puts in their food that makes it last for 365+ days. Go buy real beef at the store, or Bison meat (which is lower in fat and still tastes like regular beef of course - I just had a homemade Bison burger the other day, just added some salt/pepper/half/grated onion and garlic powder and grilled it) and make your own. (PS The grated onion into any beef adds flavor and moisture, especially if you're not using 80/20 beef which has a bit more fat for flavor, and that's okay).

McDonald's adds High Fructose Corn Syrup to their buns. SUGAR, highly concentrated! (And we wonder why it's addictive?!?!) Go buy wheat buns or use a heartier regular bread for yourself.

Add whatever condiments you wish, and make it how you wish. Hint: A little 1,000 Island dressing on it, it is just as good as the Big Mac's special sauce, although not exact. You can google near-recipes for the special sauce online).

The guy who wrote Food Rules made a good point.

He said he never deprives himself of anything he wants. However, it's HOW he gets it that has changed.

Example: Let's say you want french fries. How often do we REALLY want a good bit of fries? For the sake of argument, let's say twice a month (every couple of weeks). Instead of running out to get a large fry at McDonald's, he makes them.

If you HAD to make your own fries, how often are you willing to do that? Probably twice a month, I would bet.

So what to do? Grate, julienne, or cut your fries however you wish. Put them on a cookie sheet, toss them around with some oil, sea or gray salt, and pepper, and bake until done (or you can fry them up if you wish too - use peanut oil for more flavor). They're just as good, it fills your need for the salt or starch or carb craving you might have, and you worked for your food a little bit, so it's even more satisfying.

There's nothing better than making your own dinner, sitting down, and enjoying it.

YOU are your best alternative. And you won't feel like crap after you eat it.
Reply #52 posted 03/22/10 12:38pm

minneapolisgenius

I haven't eaten at McDonalds (or any fast food place for that matter) since I was about 14. And that's a really long time ago. lol
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Reply #53 posted 03/22/10 12:40pm

Marrk

I don't understand why they have all these preservatives in their 'food'. Don't they bin it after it's been on sale for 10minutes? i know they used to, which in itself is disgusting. confused
I'd just like paragraphs back on the org.
Reply #54 posted 03/22/10 3:10pm

Timmy84

McDonald's is fake.
Reply #55 posted 03/22/10 3:42pm

Christopher

i always order a happy meal on the side with my order "for my child". fuck this report!
Reply #56 posted 03/22/10 10:24pm

AnckSuNamun

Christopher said:

i always order a happy meal on the side with my order "for my child". fuck this report!

You still eat Happy Meals? hah! I can't talk, I rolled up into BK the other night after work and got a kid's meal. They asked if it was for a boy or girl... hmm I said "boy". It was Spiderman week. wink
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Reply #57 posted 03/22/10 10:52pm

ZombieKitten

meow85 said:

ernestsewell said:


Some guy on Oprah the other day made a good point, similar to yours. "Food is supposed to die. Don't eat anything that won't rot. Don't eat anything you can't pronounce, don't eat anything your grandmother wouldn't recognize."

Generally I agree with that, but I always found the "don't eat anything you can't pronounce' bit a little condescending. Isn't that sort of assuming that most people can't handle multi-syllabic words? And what if you CAN easily rattle off the names of all the chemical ingredients?

I'm hoping that didn't mean foreign food as much as it meant chemicals like
phenylalanylalanylglutaminylleucyllysylglutamylarginyl
Reply #58 posted 03/23/10 12:57am

FauxReal

evenstar3 said:

FauxReal said:

I had some of that shit yesterday, enjoyed in enough, and don't have a fat bottom.


me too! highfive

shamrock shakes and fries are amaaazing drool


highfive
Reply #59 posted 03/23/10 2:12am

missmad

ernestsewell said:

missmad said:

there is a video on utube where the lady kept them for 4 yrs they never changed.

i really gotta stop eating this stuff. feel crap after eating it but it tastes good- i guess the best option is 2 make my own...what other options are there to a hamburger, storewise?

It's not that a hamburger is bad. It's the extra shit McD's puts in their food that makes it last for 365+ days. Go buy real beef at the store, or Bison meat (which is lower in fat and still tastes like regular beef of course - I just had a homemade Bison burger the other day, just added some salt/pepper/half/grated onion and garlic powder and grilled it) and make your own. (PS The grated onion into any beef adds flavor and moisture, especially if you're not using 80/20 beef which has a bit more fat for flavor, and that's okay).

McDonald's adds High Fructose Corn Syrup to their buns. SUGAR, highly concentrated! (And we wonder why it's addictive?!?!) Go buy wheat buns or use a heartier regular bread for yourself.

Add whatever condiments you wish, and make it how you wish. Hint: A little 1,000 Island dressing on it, it is just as good as the Big Mac's special sauce, although not exact. You can google near-recipes for the special sauce online).

The guy who wrote Food Rules made a good point.

He said he never deprives himself of anything he wants. However, it's HOW he gets it that has changed.

Example: Let's say you want french fries. How often do we REALLY want a good bit of fries? For the sake of argument, let's say twice a month (every couple of weeks). Instead of running out to get a large fry at McDonald's, he makes them.

If you HAD to make your own fries, how often are you willing to do that? Probably twice a month, I would bet.

So what to do? Grate, julienne, or cut your fries however you wish. Put them on a cookie sheet, toss them around with some oil, sea or gray salt, and pepper, and bake until done (or you can fry them up if you wish too - use peanut oil for more flavor). They're just as good, it fills your need for the salt or starch or carb craving you might have, and you worked for your food a little bit, so it's even more satisfying.

There's nothing better than making your own dinner, sitting down, and enjoying it.

YOU are your best alternative. And you won't feel like crap after you eat it.



thanks for all this hun, agreed homemade is best but what other options are there cause sometimes after 11 hrs u dont wanna cook anything.

yea i make my own fries sooooo much cheaper and u have a whole sack of real potato vs a small small bag of mcd "fries"

Guess I should have asked for the alternatives of a "hamburger"
Reply #60 posted 03/23/10 5:52am

Dave1992

ernestsewell said:

missmad said:

there is a video on utube where the lady kept them for 4 yrs they never changed.

i really gotta stop eating this stuff. feel crap after eating it but it tastes good- i guess the best option is 2 make my own...what other options are there to a hamburger, storewise?

It's not that a hamburger is bad. It's the extra shit McD's puts in their food that makes it last for 365+ days. Go buy real beef at the store, or Bison meat (which is lower in fat and still tastes like regular beef of course - I just had a homemade Bison burger the other day, just added some salt/pepper/half/grated onion and garlic powder and grilled it) and make your own. (PS The grated onion into any beef adds flavor and moisture, especially if you're not using 80/20 beef which has a bit more fat for flavor, and that's okay).

McDonald's adds High Fructose Corn Syrup to their buns. SUGAR, highly concentrated! (And we wonder why it's addictive?!?!) Go buy wheat buns or use a heartier regular bread for yourself.

Add whatever condiments you wish, and make it how you wish. Hint: A little 1,000 Island dressing on it, it is just as good as the Big Mac's special sauce, although not exact. You can google near-recipes for the special sauce online).

The guy who wrote Food Rules made a good point.

He said he never deprives himself of anything he wants. However, it's HOW he gets it that has changed.

Example: Let's say you want french fries. How often do we REALLY want a good bit of fries? For the sake of argument, let's say twice a month (every couple of weeks). Instead of running out to get a large fry at McDonald's, he makes them.

If you HAD to make your own fries, how often are you willing to do that? Probably twice a month, I would bet.

So what to do? Grate, julienne, or cut your fries however you wish. Put them on a cookie sheet, toss them around with some oil, sea or gray salt, and pepper, and bake until done (or you can fry them up if you wish too - use peanut oil for more flavor). They're just as good, it fills your need for the salt or starch or carb craving you might have, and you worked for your food a little bit, so it's even more satisfying.

There's nothing better than making your own dinner, sitting down, and enjoying it.

YOU are your best alternative. And you won't feel like crap after you eat it.




That's a great post! drool
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Reply #61 posted 03/23/10 9:11pm

tackam

ernestsewell said:

As a side note: My friend is uploading Food, Inc. to his server today. I'm going to snag it and watch it this week. I have a feeling I'll be eating even more differently before the week expires.



Food, Inc is GREAT. thumbs up!

And McDonald's "food" is fucking poison.
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Reply #62 posted 03/23/10 9:32pm

Timmy84

Basically after I became a teen, I made my own decision to not wanna go to McDonald's especially after mama's homemade burgers made the McDonald's burgers seem fake (that was before I *knew* the food was not real at all). And after watching "Super Size Me", why would anyone even eat that and then die from eating it 24-7?
Reply #63 posted 03/24/10 3:10pm

minneapolisgenius

ZombieKitten said:

meow85 said:


Generally I agree with that, but I always found the "don't eat anything you can't pronounce' bit a little condescending. Isn't that sort of assuming that most people can't handle multi-syllabic words? And what if you CAN easily rattle off the names of all the chemical ingredients?

I'm hoping that didn't mean foreign food as much as it meant chemicals like
phenylalanylalanylglutaminylleucyllysylglutamylarginyl

drool
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Reply #64 posted 03/24/10 3:22pm

ZombieKitten

minneapolisgenius said:

ZombieKitten said:


I'm hoping that didn't mean foreign food as much as it meant chemicals like
phenylalanylalanylglutaminylleucyllysylglutamylarginyl

drool

once we made mascara in science at school and I think we put that in it, we had to use that vacuum room, it STANK!
Reply #65 posted 03/24/10 4:59pm

PurpleDiamond2009

ernestsewell said:



Wow! It still looks fresh out of the box! The fries look like they havent aged at all! eek You know this is reason why I dont eat Micky Ds anymore. I heard and read some disgusting stuff about this resturant and IMO is should be illegal to even sell this stuff knowing that its not real food. Its some kind of process beef and all sorts of werid genetic stuff going on there that stays in your system for long periods of time never diguesting. Boycott McDonalds people.

Reply #66 posted 03/28/10 11:39pm

noimageatall

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/03/28/fatty.foods.brain/

Fatty foods may cause cocaine-like addiction

By Sarah Klein, Health.com
March 28, 2010 2:42 p.m. EDT


(Health.com) -- Scientists have finally confirmed what the rest of us have suspected for years: Bacon, cheesecake, and other delicious yet fattening foods may be addictive.

A new study in rats suggests that high-fat, high-calorie foods affect the brain in much the same way as cocaine and heroin. When rats consume these foods in great enough quantities, it leads to compulsive eating habits that resemble drug addiction, the study found.

Doing drugs such as cocaine and eating too much junk food both gradually overload the so-called pleasure centers in the brain, according to Paul J. Kenny, Ph.D., an associate professor of molecular therapeutics at the Scripps Research Institute, in Jupiter, Florida. Eventually the pleasure centers "crash," and achieving the same pleasure--or even just feeling normal--requires increasing amounts of the drug or food, says Kenny, the lead author of the study.

"People know intuitively that there's more to [overeating] than just willpower," he says. "There's a system in the brain that's been turned on or over-activated, and that's driving [overeating] at some subconscious level."

In the study, published in the journal Nature Neuroscience, Kenny and his co-author studied three groups of lab rats for 40 days. One of the groups was fed regular rat food. A second was fed bacon, sausage, cheesecake, frosting, and other fattening, high-calorie foods--but only for one hour each day. The third group was allowed to pig out on the unhealthy foods for up to 23 hours a day.



Not surprisingly, the rats that gorged themselves on the human food quickly became obese. But their brains also changed. By monitoring implanted brain electrodes, the researchers found that the rats in the third group gradually developed a tolerance to the pleasure the food gave them and had to eat more to experience a high.



They began to eat compulsively, to the point where they continued to do so in the face of pain. When the researchers applied an electric shock to the rats' feet in the presence of the food, the rats in the first two groups were frightened away from eating. But the obese rats were not. "Their attention was solely focused on consuming food," says Kenny.

In previous studies, rats have exhibited similar brain changes when given unlimited access to cocaine or heroin. And rats have similarly ignored punishment to continue consuming cocaine, the researchers note.



The fact that junk food could provoke this response isn't entirely surprising, says Dr.Gene-Jack Wang, M.D., the chair of the medical department at the U.S. Department of Energy's Brookhaven National Laboratory, in Upton, New York.

"We make our food very similar to cocaine now," he says.

Coca leaves have been used since ancient times, he points out, but people learned to purify or alter cocaine to deliver it more efficiently to their brains (by injecting or smoking it, for instance). This made the drug more addictive.

According to Wang, food has evolved in a similar way. "We purify our food," he says. "Our ancestors ate whole grains, but we're eating white bread. American Indians ate corn; we eat corn syrup."

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The ingredients in purified modern food cause people to "eat unconsciously and unnecessarily," and will also prompt an animal to "eat like a drug abuser [uses drugs]," says Wang.

The neurotransmitter dopamine appears to be responsible for the behavior of the overeating rats, according to the study. Dopamine is involved in the brain's pleasure (or reward) centers, and it also plays a role in reinforcing behavior. "It tells the brain something has happened and you should learn from what just happened," says Kenny.

Overeating caused the levels of a certain dopamine receptor in the brains of the obese rats to drop, the study found. In humans, low levels of the same receptors have been associated with drug addiction and obesity, and may be genetic, Kenny says.



However, that doesn't mean that everyone born with lower dopamine receptor levels is destined to become an addict or to overeat. As Wang points out, environmental factors, and not just genes, are involved in both behaviors.

Wang also cautions that applying the results of animal studies to humans can be tricky. For instance, he says, in studies of weight-loss drugs, rats have lost as much as 30 percent of their weight, but humans on the same drug have lost less than 5 percent of their weight. "You can't mimic completely human behavior, but [animal studies] can give you a clue about what can happen in humans," Wang says.

Although he acknowledges that his research may not directly translate to humans, Kenny says the findings shed light on the brain mechanisms that drive overeating and could even lead to new treatments for obesity.

"If we could develop therapeutics for drug addiction, those same drugs may be good for obesity as well," he says.
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Reply #67 posted 03/29/10 11:22pm

matt

Sr. Moderator

moderator

tackam said:

And McDonald's "food" is fucking poison.


Oh, probably. But let's give them credit where credit is due.

Here's the scenario: I have to be in 4 different cities on the same day. At 11:53 a.m., I arrive at my second destination for a 12:00 noon appointment. And I'm starving, because I haven't eaten anything all day.

Solution? There's a McDonald's across the street! I run over there, buy a McDouble off the Dollar Menu, and wolf it down. I walk in the door for my appointment at 11:58 a.m.

Until somebody starts serving healthy food that efficiently, I don't know what else I can do. (Well, I could start eating breakfast more often....)
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Reply #68 posted 03/30/10 10:07am

PurpleJedi

ernestsewell said:


Why the fuck is there high fructose corn syrup is BREAD?


To be perfectly fair, just about ALL store-bought bread has it.

My kids eat alot of break, so I go out of my way to find Arnold brand sliced bread that is the only decently-priced one out there that doesn't use High Furctose Corn Syrup.

Actually...it's hard to find ANY food out there that still uses real cane sugar nowadays. There's a bodega by my office that imports Mexican Coca-Cola, so occasionally I splurge $1.50 on a (real) bottle of Coke made with cane sugar.
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Reply #69 posted 03/30/10 10:08am

PurpleJedi

ernestsewell said:




...and yes, this is disturbing!!!
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Reply #70 posted 03/30/10 10:12am

PurpleJedi

PurpleDiamond2009 said:

...and IMO it should be illegal to even sell this stuff knowing that its not real food. Its some kind of process beef and all sorts of werid genetic stuff going on there that stays in your system for long periods of time never diguesting. Boycott McDonalds people.


It's obviously "real" food, but is so jam-packed with preservatives and additives that it's immune to decomposition.

Being in a free country, I reserve my right to buy McDonald's at my choosing. What SHOULD be made illegal is people who abandon common sense and eat - or worse feed their kids this crap on a daily basis.

Moderation people...moderation.
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Reply #71 posted 03/30/10 10:16am

CuddlyBear

I'm not surprised. They put enough salt in their food to preserve entire dynasties of Egyptian kings.
Reply #72 posted 03/30/10 10:35am

missfee

The only thing I get from McDonald's is their Southwest Salad, and that's only every once in a while.
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Reply #73 posted 03/30/10 11:40am

AnckSuNamun

Not really a fan of the burgers, but I tried that caramel Frappe the other night after work. It was actually pretty good.
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Reply #74 posted 03/30/10 7:41pm

Acrylic

I'll eat one of those French Fries for $20. smile
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Reply #75 posted 03/30/10 8:24pm

Christopher

AnckSuNamun said:

Not really a fan of the burgers, but I tried that caramel Frappe the other night after work. It was actually pretty good.

oww i been wanting to try that too.they need to serve breakfast all day is the business.
Reply #76 posted 03/31/10 12:18pm

PurpleJedi

Acrylic said:

I'll eat one of those French Fries for $20. smile


Does $20 cover the stomach pump? barf

lol
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Reply #77 posted 03/31/10 12:20pm

Acrylic

PurpleJedi said:

Acrylic said:

I'll eat one of those French Fries for $20. smile


Does $20 cover the stomach pump? barf

lol


I said one french fry. lol
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Reply #78 posted 03/31/10 8:35pm

ZombieKitten

PurpleJedi said:

ernestsewell said:


Why the fuck is there high fructose corn syrup is BREAD?


To be perfectly fair, just about ALL store-bought bread has it.

My kids eat alot of break, so I go out of my way to find Arnold brand sliced bread that is the only decently-priced one out there that doesn't use High Furctose Corn Syrup.

Actually...it's hard to find ANY food out there that still uses real cane sugar nowadays. There's a bodega by my office that imports Mexican Coca-Cola, so occasionally I splurge $1.50 on a (real) bottle of Coke made with cane sugar.


I hope that never happens over here omg we still only have cane sugar to sweeten over here, we even have buses fuelled by ethanol made from cane sugar

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