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Our Obssession with Wealth I have actually sat down and watched a few of these housewives series of reality shows and figured that the audiences (us) are obssessed with wealth. It looks like it obviously can't buy class, smarts, or common sense, but we watch it.
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I actually have very little interest in those types of shows.
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I am constantly appalled by them ATL and other Bravo "housewife" bitches and how they handle money, especially since most of them are fronting and have since lost their homes. You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that Love survives so we can rock FOREVER. ~ RIP MJ | |
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Money means jack shit to me and I hate all reality television. I will never get people's obsession to keep up with the Joneses. God DAMN there are a lot of dumb motherfuckers walking around! - George Carlin
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I crave more money...I know it will make me happier. unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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Well, I'm not ashamed to say that money means a whole lot to me but I don't place it or things above people. But financial security is very important to me and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I've been on my own since I was 18 and I've been stone cold, top Ramen broke and have since been blessed in many ways. So I respect the power of money. I need money for all the basic necessities, creature comforts, and to pay for the many wonderful travel experiences I've had and the great opportunities to indulge family and friends. Plus if I can help a few people out along the way that's even mo' betta. So, stop hatin' on money. Yeah, money!!! You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that Love survives so we can rock FOREVER. ~ RIP MJ | |
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SCNDLS said: Well, I'm not ashamed to say that money means a whole lot to me but I don't place it or things above people. But financial security is very important to me and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I've been on my own since I was 18 and I've been stone cold, top Ramen broke and have since been blessed in many ways. So I respect the power of money. I need money for all the basic necessities, creature comforts, and to pay for the many wonderful travel experiences I've had and the great opportunities to indulge family and friends. Plus if I can help a few people out along the way that's even mo' betta. So, stop hatin' on money. Yeah, money!!! You a mess. I am very thankful I can feed my travel habit. But people with real money don't impress me. God DAMN there are a lot of dumb motherfuckers walking around! - George Carlin
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Vendetta1 said: SCNDLS said: Well, I'm not ashamed to say that money means a whole lot to me but I don't place it or things above people. But financial security is very important to me and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I've been on my own since I was 18 and I've been stone cold, top Ramen broke and have since been blessed in many ways. So I respect the power of money. I need money for all the basic necessities, creature comforts, and to pay for the many wonderful travel experiences I've had and the great opportunities to indulge family and friends. Plus if I can help a few people out along the way that's even mo' betta. So, stop hatin' on money. Yeah, money!!! You a mess. I am very thankful I can feed my travel habit. But people with real money don't impress me. You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that Love survives so we can rock FOREVER. ~ RIP MJ | |
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peacenlovealways said: I crave more money...I know it will make me happier.
I'd like some more money too. I think the real problem with our obsession with wealth has been the near total emphasis on having a lot of "stuff", meaning all of the finest designer brand name fashion, high tech gadgets, deluxe kitchen and bath appliances and accessories, the biggest gas guzzling vehicle with leather seats and a booming car stereo, etc. Yes, travel has also been emphasized a lot, but usually it involves luxury cruises or trips to exotic places like Hawaii, the Caribbean, or Europe. I'd like to travel to those places myself, but my real main motivation for making lots of money is to get some freedom to do what I want to do and not have to worry about bills, mortgages, or other costs. While I'd love to have some cool gadgets, I don't absolutely need them. Preferably, I'd like to own some income generating assets or an online business which generates me enough money so that I don't have to go to a job and work 40 to 50 hours a week and spend 2 to three hours each day commuting to and from this job. | |
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SCNDLS said: Vendetta1 said: You a mess.
I am very thankful I can feed my travel habit. But people with real money don't impress me. God DAMN there are a lot of dumb motherfuckers walking around! - George Carlin
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Oh, and Kitty Kat, I see you're starting real early with all that Tar Heels shit. You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that Love survives so we can rock FOREVER. ~ RIP MJ | |
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Imago said: I actually have very little interest in those types of shows.
It always astounds me that there are so many wealthy people who seem sooooo damned ghetto. Dog the Bounty Hunter, The Hogans, ATL, and yes--the Osbornes But even in my own comfortably middle class life in the last few years, I discovered I was one of the only one of my group of friends who didn't have my own home theatre system complete with 50 inch flat screens. Seriously Sure, I owned the kayak and took multiple trips to Miami beach to go dancing, etc. etc.--but this is different. These are things I buy to do , and not status symbols. I'm quite a bit more poor this year than I've been in DECADES, but I've been very very lucky in that I've travelled even more this year than the previous years thanks to very generous family. But I firmly believe now, within every fibre of my being and not just lip service to a cliche, that happy people look back on memories of what they've done--not what they own. When I watch shows where these people get excited over planning extravagant get-togethers where nothing goes down but petty drama, I feel no tinge of jealousy whatsoever. But when I watch that fine ass Scottish dude, Ed Wardle, camping out alone in the wilderness, I feel inspired. That being said, I'll always want enough money to buy the next Apple product, and get my hair did---but those aren't so bad, are they? But seriously, I like travel and eating out, but never spend that much and certainly never pay over the odds for a name or location for status and having bragging rights or anything like that. I know all the things and experiences I like and I can afford them and I don't strive to have anything more. I want to be a nice guy who's good to people and I want to have some fun. I used to love 'things' but somewhere along the way my greedy Xmas lists and birthday requests and fascination with gadgets gave way to contentedness and a disgraceful lack of conventional ambition. That's not to hang shit on people who feel differently though. I admire people who have lots of money, who've worked hard for it, and in particular are still sensible with their money and keep some perspective. I admire ambition, in a way, and that drive that I don't have. I'm not envious though. Different strokes for different folks. I like to see the go-getters doing their thing but I'm ok not being one. Experiences over things, for me. I'm the one sent to kiss you out the mood you've slipped into. | |
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ultrablue said: Imago said: I actually have very little interest in those types of shows.
It always astounds me that there are so many wealthy people who seem sooooo damned ghetto. Dog the Bounty Hunter, The Hogans, ATL, and yes--the Osbornes But even in my own comfortably middle class life in the last few years, I discovered I was one of the only one of my group of friends who didn't have my own home theatre system complete with 50 inch flat screens. Seriously Sure, I owned the kayak and took multiple trips to Miami beach to go dancing, etc. etc.--but this is different. These are things I buy to do , and not status symbols. I'm quite a bit more poor this year than I've been in DECADES, but I've been very very lucky in that I've travelled even more this year than the previous years thanks to very generous family. But I firmly believe now, within every fibre of my being and not just lip service to a cliche, that happy people look back on memories of what they've done--not what they own. When I watch shows where these people get excited over planning extravagant get-togethers where nothing goes down but petty drama, I feel no tinge of jealousy whatsoever. But when I watch that fine ass Scottish dude, Ed Wardle, camping out alone in the wilderness, I feel inspired. That being said, I'll always want enough money to buy the next Apple product, and get my hair did---but those aren't so bad, are they? But seriously, I like travel and eating out, but never spend that much and certainly never pay over the odds for a name or location for status and having bragging rights or anything like that. I know all the things and experiences I like and I can afford them and I don't strive to have anything more. I want to be a nice guy who's good to people and I want to have some fun. I used to love 'things' but somewhere along the way my greedy Xmas lists and birthday requests and fascination with gadgets gave way to contentedness and a disgraceful lack of conventional ambition. That's not to hang shit on people who feel differently though. I admire people who have lots of money, who've worked hard for it, and in particular are still sensible with their money and keep some perspective. I admire ambition, in a way, and that drive that I don't have. I'm not envious though. Different strokes for different folks. I like to see the go-getters doing their thing but I'm ok not being one. Experiences over things, for me. One day you and I will be old men and you'll be all like, "remember that one time in Patpong, when we went to that club where those Pandas humped each other on stage to Paula Abdul And, I'll be like, "yes, too bad we had to leave early to start the Mullet Man Poodle Thread v 3.0 Lawd, the memories. C:\Otaassk~.exe The new best Prince M&M thread ever: http://prince.org/msg/7/323876 vivid is my new boo! | |
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Imago said: ultrablue said: But seriously, I like travel and eating out, but never spend that much and certainly never pay over the odds for a name or location for status and having bragging rights or anything like that. I know all the things and experiences I like and I can afford them and I don't strive to have anything more. I want to be a nice guy who's good to people and I want to have some fun. I used to love 'things' but somewhere along the way my greedy Xmas lists and birthday requests and fascination with gadgets gave way to contentedness and a disgraceful lack of conventional ambition. That's not to hang shit on people who feel differently though. I admire people who have lots of money, who've worked hard for it, and in particular are still sensible with their money and keep some perspective. I admire ambition, in a way, and that drive that I don't have. I'm not envious though. Different strokes for different folks. I like to see the go-getters doing their thing but I'm ok not being one. Experiences over things, for me. One day you and I will be old men and you'll be all like, "remember that one time in Patpong, when we went to that club where those Pandas humped each other on stage to Paula Abdul And, I'll be like, "yes, too bad we had to leave early to start the Mullet Man Poodle Thread v 3.0 Lawd, the memories. I'm the one sent to kiss you out the mood you've slipped into. | |
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SCNDLS said: Oh, and Kitty Kat, I see you're starting real early with all that Tar Heels shit.
Dude, that has been my signature since Apri '09! GQ rated Duke as one of the top 25 douchiest schools in the nation! " 'tis the season after all...peace on earth and goodwill towards total assholes... | |
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Imago said: I actually have very little interest in those types of shows.
It always astounds me that there are so many wealthy people who seem sooooo damned ghetto. Dog the Bounty Hunter, The Hogans, ATL, and yes--the Osbornes But even in my own comfortably middle class life in the last few years, I discovered I was one of the only one of my group of friends who didn't have my own home theatre system complete with 50 inch flat screens. Seriously Sure, I owned the kayak and took multiple trips to Miami beach to go dancing, etc. etc.--but this is different. These are things I buy to do , and not status symbols. I'm quite a bit more poor this year than I've been in DECADES, but I've been very very lucky in that I've travelled even more this year than the previous years thanks to very generous family. But I firmly believe now, within every fibre of my being and not just lip service to a cliche, that happy people look back on memories of what they've done--not what they own. When I watch shows where these people get excited over planning extravagant get-togethers where nothing goes down but petty drama, I feel no tinge of jealousy whatsoever. But when I watch that fine ass Scottish dude, Ed Wardle, camping out alone in the wilderness, I feel inspired. That being said, I'll always want enough money to buy the next Apple product, and get my hair did---but those aren't so bad, are they? I don´t really know you that well but, from what I can tell, the travelling has done you very good on so many levels, whether mentally, spiritually,personal level or healthwise.You should even travel a bit more if you have the possibility to do so. And you are right about happy people being the ones who can look back and have fond memories of what they have done, rather than what they have. | |
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Money isn´t everything and I am definitely not into status symbols but the most important and fascinating thing about money, IMO, is the fact that it buys you freedom, time, even health and the possibility to help and to travel.
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KatSkrizzle said: Instead of buying boatloads of pocketbooks and throwing lavish parties, I'd rather stash some more away in my mutual fund.
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728huey said: I'd like to travel to those places myself, but my real main motivation for making lots of money is to get some freedom to do what I want to do and not have to worry about bills, mortgages, or other costs. :
Exactly. Money is extremely important to me, but as a means to an end, not as a tool to impress anyone. I care about it not because it allows me status or flat-screen TVs or anything else people use up their credit limits on, but because it allows me freedom: freedom from worry, and hopefully freedom to live the life I want when I'm a feeble old man drooling all over myself. If anyone here ever saw the way I currently live, you'd probably think I was a bus-boy or a 7-11 clerk making minimum wage based on my apartment, my mongrel stereo system and archaic computer. I could not give a shit's dick-ass about that stuff. What I do care about is having the means to retire at 50, go back to school to get an economics degree & then spend the rest of my days listlessly laying on a couch reading all the books I don't have time for right now because I'm working every waking hour. Most economic fallacies derive from the tendency to assume that there is a fixed pie, that one party can gain only at the expense of another. | |
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damosuzuki said: 728huey said: I'd like to travel to those places myself, but my real main motivation for making lots of money is to get some freedom to do what I want to do and not have to worry about bills, mortgages, or other costs. :
Exactly. Money is extremely important to me, but as a means to an end, not as a tool to impress anyone. I care about it not because it allows me status or flat-screen TVs or anything else people use up their credit limits on, but because it allows me freedom: freedom from worry, and hopefully freedom to live the life I want when I'm a feeble old man drooling all over myself. If anyone here ever saw the way I currently live, you'd probably think I was a bus-boy or a 7-11 clerk making minimum wage based on my apartment, my mongrel stereo system and archaic computer. I could not give a shit's dick-ass about that stuff. What I do care about is having the means to retire at 50, go back to school to get an economics degree & then spend the rest of my days listlessly laying on a couch reading all the books I don't have time for right now because I'm working every waking hour. | |
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KatSkrizzle said: SCNDLS said: Oh, and Kitty Kat, I see you're starting real early with all that Tar Heels shit.
Dude, that has been my signature since Apri '09! GQ rated Duke as one of the top 25 douchiest schools in the nation! Coming from GQ that means a lot. [Edited 10/23/09 6:33am] You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that Love survives so we can rock FOREVER. ~ RIP MJ | |
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uPtoWnNY said: KatSkrizzle said: Instead of buying boatloads of pocketbooks and throwing lavish parties, I'd rather stash some more away in my mutual fund.
Like Chris Rock said, there's a difference between being rich and being wealthy. Wealth lasts generations. You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that Love survives so we can rock FOREVER. ~ RIP MJ | |
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728huey said: peacenlovealways said:
I crave more money...I know it will make me happier.
I'd like some more money too. I think the real problem with our obsession with wealth has been the near total emphasis on having a lot of "stuff", meaning all of the finest designer brand name fashion, high tech gadgets, deluxe kitchen and bath appliances and accessories, the biggest gas guzzling vehicle with leather seats and a booming car stereo, etc. Yes, travel has also been emphasized a lot, but usually it involves luxury cruises or trips to exotic places like Hawaii, the Caribbean, or Europe. I'd like to travel to those places myself, but my real main motivation for making lots of money is to get some freedom to do what I want to do and not have to worry about bills, mortgages, or other costs. While I'd love to have some cool gadgets, I don't absolutely need them. Preferably, I'd like to own some income generating assets or an online business which generates me enough money so that I don't have to go to a job and work 40 to 50 hours a week and spend 2 to three hours each day commuting to and from this job. 2 to 3 hours... unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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damosuzuki said: Exactly. Money is extremely important to me, but as a means to an end, not as a tool to impress anyone. I care about it not because it allows me status or flat-screen TVs or anything else people use up their credit limits on, but because it allows me freedom: freedom from worry, and hopefully freedom to live the life I want when I'm a feeble old man drooling all over myself. If anyone here ever saw the way I currently live, you'd probably think I was a bus-boy or a 7-11 clerk making minimum wage based on my apartment, my mongrel stereo system and archaic computer. I could not give a shit's dick-ass about that stuff.
What I do care about is having the means to retire at 50, go back to school to get an economics degree & then spend the rest of my days listlessly laying on a couch reading all the books I don't have time for right now because I'm working every waking hour. ^^^ THAT'S what I'm talking about. I'm not up on technology - if you came to my place, you'd swear you were in 1989. But I don't care, it's more important to have loot in the bank and investments, than all the latest 'stuff'. | |
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SCNDLS said: uPtoWnNY said: Like Chris Rock said, there's a difference between being rich and being wealthy. Wealth lasts generations. Mike Tyson was 'rich' too. | |
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uPtoWnNY said: damosuzuki said: Exactly. Money is extremely important to me, but as a means to an end, not as a tool to impress anyone. I care about it not because it allows me status or flat-screen TVs or anything else people use up their credit limits on, but because it allows me freedom: freedom from worry, and hopefully freedom to live the life I want when I'm a feeble old man drooling all over myself. If anyone here ever saw the way I currently live, you'd probably think I was a bus-boy or a 7-11 clerk making minimum wage based on my apartment, my mongrel stereo system and archaic computer. I could not give a shit's dick-ass about that stuff.
What I do care about is having the means to retire at 50, go back to school to get an economics degree & then spend the rest of my days listlessly laying on a couch reading all the books I don't have time for right now because I'm working every waking hour. ^^^ THAT'S what I'm talking about. I'm not up on technology - if you came to my place, you'd swear you were in 1989. But I don't care, it's more important to have loot in the bank and investments, than all the latest 'stuff'. Same here. When it comes to technological trends and gizmos I've always been I've often wondered if construction of a red lightsaber takes place before you can become a Republican, or is it something you do after initiation. Dah, well... | |
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Adisa said: Same here. When it comes to technological trends and gizmos I've always been
Some of my relatives call it being 'cheap', but when those fools need help, guess who they call? | |
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uPtoWnNY said: Adisa said: Same here. When it comes to technological trends and gizmos I've always been
Some of my relatives call it being 'cheap', but when those fools need help, guess who they call? I believe it. I also don't get with all the bullshit shopping for clothes either, but I'll let Bill Cosby do the talking for me on that topic. LOL. Seriously, I only buy what I need in the way of clothing, and I only buy it when I need, never just in case. I've often wondered if construction of a red lightsaber takes place before you can become a Republican, or is it something you do after initiation. Dah, well... | |
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uPtoWnNY said: Adisa said: Same here. When it comes to technological trends and gizmos I've always been
Some of my relatives call it being 'cheap', but when those fools need help, guess who they call? In 7 years of friendship I have never once borrowed money from him while he has borrowed from me more than 10 times. 2 weeks ago I lent him $150 because he didn't have quite enough money to go to Malaysia to do his visa run. I'm the one sent to kiss you out the mood you've slipped into. | |
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SCNDLS said: KatSkrizzle said: Dude, that has been my signature since Apri '09! GQ rated Duke as one of the top 25 douchiest schools in the nation! Coming from GQ that means a lot. [Edited 10/23/09 6:33am] The working class heroes out number your prep school spoiled brat boys any day! " 'tis the season after all...peace on earth and goodwill towards total assholes... | |
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