Butch girl/effeminate boy

Who of the people in your life is most like the opposite gender? Is it indeed yourself? What is it they do, say, wear etc...Is she really butch? Is he really effeminate?...

I am not very butch.

I.

ALMOST.

CREATED.

A.

PICTURE.

THREAD.

WITH.

THIS.

EXACT.

PIC





What was your question?

The most butch girl I knew was in the military. She alway swore bascket ball shorts and basket ball tank tops with team numbers on them. Her hair was a boys style, she chewed dip, and she worked in the 'receivers team'--yes, that's the name of the work unit she worked it (radio receivers. ).



The most effeminate guy I knew in real life was a gay name Kam who worked at a restaurant I worked in when I was 16.


Right now, the butchest person I know is my cousin. She resembles Elton John. The most effeminate guy I know is is probably a friend of mine, who is straight.

THERE IS NOTHING BUT THE VOID

CarrieMpls said:

I am not very butch.

my wife is a waste of a perfectly good lesbian. i'm some bizarre twink head on bear body disaster. i'm really glad i haven't got a photo.

JDInteractive said:

CarrieMpls said:

I am not very butch.

Hello Prince.

never in my life did i get to see my maternal grandmother in a dress.

nor did she ever have long hair - not even in the old timey days.

in fact, in the 50s and 60s, my grandmother used to wear her hair kinda like roy orbison and she'd often wear dickie coveralls. if she was feeling fancy, she had an outfit that kinda looked like something han solo would wear, only sometimes with a bolo tie.

a few years after my grandfather died, she "softened" a bit in the 80s, got herself a perm, and started wearing crafty teddy bear sweaters like every old lady in the midwest wears. by the time she died she had the look of just about any woman in her age group....but it took her a loooong time to get there.

and she was always very masculine in her mannerisms and behaviors. she smoked marlboro reds, rode a harley, and played steel lap guitar, bless her soul.

Old Timey. Love that

CarrieMpls said:

JDInteractive said:

Hello Prince.

Hello, Morris.

My wife and I, seriously.

JDInteractive said:

CarrieMpls said:

Hello, Morris.

I am not Morris.

Anxiety said:

CarrieMpls said:

JDInteractive said:

I am not Morris.

Well, I am not Prince.

Wow. I know some folk in various stages of transitioning who entirely confound this question for me.

Them aside, the most masculine woman I've met was "Laura," an ex-girlfriend of my Lesbian cousin. She always dressed in button-downs, Dockers and penny loafers, had a haircut a bit like James Dean, and had very masculine mannerisms. When she shook your hand, she'd crush every bone in it. And when she sat, her legs went wide open... until she went into that ankle-over-knees leg crossing that many men do.

The most feminine man I know is a friend of mine I've known since Middle School. He dresses butch enough, but his voice, his gait, his obsession with Louis Vuitton bags, his fleeting haircuts... and colors.. and textures... and length are all woman.

I think I can be a very butch chick and I am okay with that.

i have a difficult time pointing out especially effeminate men, because i think threads of masculinity and femininity run on so many different parallel tracks where men are concerned. a guy could pride himself on being a dandy, but at the same time he has very butch tendencies that he doesn't even appreciate in himself; or vice versa, where a guy thinks he's the most macho, "straight acting", masculine thing on earth, but if he sees a mouse he screams like tori spelling and jumps on a chair. maybe it's that the guys who work to be one extreme or another all too often take for granted the little natural mannerisms that betray their choice of drag.

I will hold off on a tirade on gender roles and the negative human implications of culturally-forced sexual dimorphism (loss of unique identity, continuous world war, unnecessarily brutal sexual competition having little to do with genetic health and evolution) to simply say I'm extremely attracted to people who don't fit into conservative male and female boxes.





Though she's hardly the most butch woman on the planet, I've repeatedly announced my perpetual hard-on for k.d. lang. If I found a woman who remotely looked like her, she'd need a restraining order quicker than you can blink.

This is barely on-topic, I just really, really like to look at pictures of my k.d.

INSATIABLE said:

I will hold off on a tirade on gender roles and the negative human implications of culturally-forced sexual dimorphism (loss of unique identity, continuous world war, unnecessarily brutal sexual competition having little to do with genetic health and evolution) to simply say I'm extremely attracted to people who don't fit into conservative male and female boxes.





Though she's hardly the most butch woman on the planet, I've repeatedly announced my perpetual hard-on for k.d. lang. If I found a woman who remotely looked like her, she'd need a restraining order quicker than you can blink.

This is barely on-topic, I just really, really like to look at pictures of my k.d.

Vendetta1 said:

You and k.d. can get it.

I suppose I'm somewhere in the middle.

PunkMistress said:

Anxiety said:

Just today Chris and I had a conversation about how he thought Jo was the only really bangable girl on The Facts Of Life, and how that probably laid the foundation for him to grow up and marry a dyke.

INSATIABLE said:

Vendetta1 said:

You and k.d. can get it.

That's it. I'm just going to get it overwith and tattoo 'PROPERTY OF IVY' on my ass.

johnart said:

I suppose I'm somewhere in the middle.

Vendetta1 said:

johnart said:

I suppose I'm somewhere in the middle.

I don't think you are feminine at all.

i remember when i was 13 and i was talking with my friend chris about purple rain (theyd shown it the night before to celebrate 20th year anniversary)

and he says in the most campest way ever

''*sigh* how is that man not gay?''

and i laughed because loads of people think hes gay lol

Anxiety said:

contrapposto said:

Anxiety said:

I swear to god that is EXACTLY how i wore my hair to the senior prom.

Vendetta1 said:

contrapposto said:

I swear to god that is EXACTLY how i wore my hair to the senior prom.

contrapposto said:

Vendetta1 said:

I'm not proud of the fact that I tried to look like Simon LeBon and wound up looking like Nancy McKeon instead.

contrapposto said:

Vendetta1 said:

I'm not proud of the fact that I tried to look like Simon LeBon and wound up looking like Nancy McKeon instead.

Just a little bit of make-up, and I'd be willing to do myself.

I don't think I'm very masculine, but I've been getting the "Are you a lesbian?" question pretty regularly since I was 16

Really don't know what I'm doing to give off that vibe, but I just assume it's cause I'm pretty open-minded and not really too 'girly'

novabrkr said:

Just a little bit of make-up, and I'd be willing to do myself.

Vendetta1 said:

I think I can be a very butch chick and I am okay with that.

contrapposto said:

Anxiety said:

I swear to god that is EXACTLY how i wore my hair to the senior prom.

*is effemibutch*

Hee.

I must have my jewelry and sometimes a little makeup or nail polish. I enjoy a nice blouse or pretty shirt. I like soft scents and head scarves. I like lacy boyshorts and the hipster lingerie type stuff. Hell, I can easily drop forty dollars plus online on that stuff alone.

On the other hand, I usually dip into "don't give a damn" mode. That's when I grab the nearest t-shirt, boxers, pants, and my skater shoes and head out the door after slicking back my hair and covering it up with a black scarf. This is usually in sans-purse mode with my entire life neatly stuffed into my jean pockets.

And somehow in either mode, guys still get fixated on my chest! Arrgh!

Elixer...baby it sho' ain't about no liquid ailment fixer! But I ain't complainin...

Anxiety said:

I LIVE for Katherine Moennig, the actress best known for the role she played as Shane McKutcheon on "The L Word" . She was a high fashion model prior to her tv success and just reeked Peter Lindberg style androgyny; she almost looked like a circa 90's baby Linda Evangelista, in person she's so tiny but she just has mad swagger

Yeah...I can come off as feminine...

I have a very very slim build. 5'10" 137lb.
and fem features

I remember taking my ex girlfriend out 2
dinner and the waitress came up from behind me and said.
"what can I get u girls"...lol

My 2 best female friends are lesbians, but are not butch at all. And I haven't got anything masculine about myself as far as I know.
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nyse said:

Yeah...I can come off as feminine...

I have a very very slim build. 5'10" 137lb.
and fem features

I remember taking my ex girlfriend out 2
dinner and the waitress came up from behind me and said.
"what can I get u girls"...lol

Deadflow3r said:

nyse said:

Yeah...I can come off as feminine...

I have a very very slim build. 5'10" 137lb.
and fem features

I remember taking my ex girlfriend out 2
dinner and the waitress came up from behind me and said.
"what can I get u girls"...lol

You're the exact same size as my ex. Everyone kept telling me that he was gay. His best friend was an older gay man whom he use Uncle. I thought. Now it's been 7 years since we were together, he married some other woman. He truly is straight and pretty. My daughter looks just like him, lucky girl!!!

It's strange that we push men to be as macho as they can be and make them feel that they won't get any attention from the ladies if they don't. Meanwhile Mick Jagger, Steve Tyler, David Bowie, Prince, MJ, Little Richard etc, have to fight women off of them. The only type of effeminate men that are hurting are the ones that are insecure because of it. Insecurity never rocks.

My ex was a bit of a lush. He had no problem being around gay men at ALL and would go to gay bars because he knew men would buy him drinks. I met him at a gay bar, I was there to enjoy the drag queens and figured getting picked up would not be a problem. I talked to him like a normal friend. Had no idea he was picking me up. Quite funny. Very nice guy, unfortunately very big substance problem.

johnart said:

I suppose I'm somewhere in the middle.

Nerdsexy

I was just thinking about you, wondering if you wear the same cologne
It smelled good... on you
Had the next boyfriend of mine try the same kind but it stunk on him, though
... You sure did smell good

I think of myself as being very androgynous, but I don't get feedback along those lines. I have a very female appearance, but I do get along better with men. Given a choice between a male and female existence, I think I'd be happier as a male, but since I didn't have a choice, I'm fine with being a chick. Whatever.

Butch girls and femme boys are hot. I'm attracted to a huge swath of humanity, with the more femme women (bio or MTF) being the only folks who consistently don't do it for me. If I'm gonna kiss somebody in lipstick, I want it to be a boy.

People have said I'm effeminate before. People have joked about me being gay. I don't really see that, I must admit, though I know I'm not a really macho guy. My wife isn't really a girly girl though. She's really quite tomboyish.

More masculine as a child but now I'm a bit of both. It seems the older I get the more feminine I get.

tackam said:

I think of myself as being very androgynous, but I don't get feedback along those lines. I have a very female appearance, but I do get along better with men. Given a choice between a male and female existence, I think I'd be happier as a male, but since I didn't have a choice, I'm fine with being a chick. Whatever.

Butch girls and femme boys are hot. I'm attracted to a huge swath of humanity, with the more femme women (bio or MTF) being the only folks who consistently don't do it for me. If I'm gonna kiss somebody in lipstick, I want it to be a boy.