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Thread started 08/19/09 12:54pm

paisleypark4

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Is it suicide to smoke knowing it kills you?

Just a question I always like to ask people...

What are your thoughts? Im not religious and not part of any religion.
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Reply #1 posted 08/19/09 12:57pm

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yes, but like many other things it's too slow a process to matter to folks.
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Reply #2 posted 08/19/09 1:02pm

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crap

smoking does not necessarily kill you
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Reply #3 posted 08/19/09 1:07pm

paisleypark4

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Dewrede said:

crap

smoking does not necessarily kill you


But it has. My uncle died from it...does that mean it kills you ...or not?
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Reply #4 posted 08/19/09 1:22pm

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paisleypark4 said:

Dewrede said:

crap

smoking does not necessarily kill you


But it has. My uncle died from it...does that mean it kills you ...or not?



No, that means that it killed your uncle. Smoking increases the likelihood of dying from certain diseases. The tobacco industry has always pointed to people who smoked for decades without problems as proof that their product was not harmful. Obviously that is not true, but it is true the smoking doesn't kill everyone who does it. My Great-Grandfather smoked for 80 years and lived to be 103 years old. His wife smoked just as long and she lived to be 102. Some people just don't get affected by cigarette smoke.
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Reply #5 posted 08/19/09 1:28pm

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Darwintheorgangrinder said:

paisleypark4 said:



But it has. My uncle died from it...does that mean it kills you ...or not?



No, that means that it killed your uncle. Smoking increases the likelihood of dying from certain diseases. The tobacco industry has always pointed to people who smoked for decades without problems as proof that their product was not harmful. Obviously that is not true, but it is true the smoking doesn't kill everyone who does it. My Great-Grandfather smoked for 80 years and lived to be 103 years old. His wife smoked just as long and she lived to be 102. Some people just don't get affected by cigarette smoke.

So be it told that the production of putting poisons into your system knowing it can harm one self, and when one is medicated and knowingly told that they are affecting their health by contributing to obliterate their health they are not attributing to their death? Is a drug addict not guilty for putting toxins in his body either?
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Reply #6 posted 08/19/09 1:51pm

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It's stupid to smoke.
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Reply #7 posted 08/19/09 1:52pm

GirlBrother

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Who wants to live so long that they don't even know their own name?

Have a ciggie and stop worrying!!!
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Reply #8 posted 08/19/09 1:52pm

PunkMistress

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No.

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Reply #9 posted 08/19/09 2:00pm

GirlBrother

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Here's two pictures of a well-known smoker and a well-known non-smoker...





One died aged 83 after a happy, fulfilling, and smoketastic life - and the other didn't.

Discuss.
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Reply #10 posted 08/19/09 2:04pm

aroundtheworld

blunt if u think that humans are only rational thinkers i would admit that a person who smokes though smoking could kill you has a suicidal tendency...

but i think humans are also irrational, emotional, wonderful crazy and PLEASURE seeking stoned

by the way i truely enjoy smoking smoker
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Reply #11 posted 08/19/09 2:06pm

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Really whats the difference if a person stuffs cheeseburgers and fries in their body and never exercises? They all know fried and fattening foods are bad for them, yet people eat them everyday multiple times a day...shrug im just sayin...
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Reply #12 posted 08/19/09 2:06pm

Dayclear

I guess you could say that, but damn your gonna die regardless. confused
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Reply #13 posted 08/19/09 2:09pm

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If smoking is suicide, then procreation is pre-meditated murder.

Whenever a child is born into the world, the only certainty is that one day it will die. Life is a death sentence.

So, whenever somebody tells you not to smoke around their children, point out to them that they've already condemned them to die by creating them in the first place.

Everybody should smoke. We're all going to Hell in a handbasket anyway.
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Reply #14 posted 08/19/09 2:45pm

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GirlBrother said:

If smoking is suicide, then procreation is pre-meditated murder.

Whenever a child is born into the world, the only certainty is that one day it will die. Life is a death sentence.

So, whenever somebody tells you not to smoke around their children, point out to them that they've already condemned them to die by creating them in the first place.

Everybody should smoke. We're all going to Hell in a handbasket anyway.

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Reply #15 posted 08/19/09 2:46pm

Harlepolis

CalhounSq said:

GirlBrother said:

If smoking is suicide, then procreation is pre-meditated murder.

Whenever a child is born into the world, the only certainty is that one day it will die. Life is a death sentence.

So, whenever somebody tells you not to smoke around their children, point out to them that they've already condemned them to die by creating them in the first place.

Everybody should smoke. We're all going to Hell in a handbasket anyway.

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Reply #16 posted 08/19/09 2:57pm

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GirlBrother said:

If smoking is suicide, then procreation is pre-meditated murder.

Whenever a child is born into the world, the only certainty is that one day it will die. Life is a death sentence.

So, whenever somebody tells you not to smoke around their children, point out to them that they've already condemned them to die by creating them in the first place.
Everybody should smoke. We're all going to Hell in a handbasket anyway.


falloff Good one clapping Dont believe in hell....we just create it in our own Earthly illusion. eek
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Reply #17 posted 08/19/09 3:08pm

uPtoWnNY

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It's stupid to smoke.



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...and it's really disgusting when women do it. Who the fuck wants to kiss someone who smells like an ashtray? barf
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Reply #18 posted 08/19/09 3:10pm

MarieLouise

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Of course it's not suicide. I smoke, but I don't want to die. Doing something that increases the chance of dying sooner, is not suicide. Suicide is the desire for an end, the only last option.
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Reply #19 posted 08/19/09 3:10pm

Harlepolis

uPtoWnNY said:

RodeoSchro said:

It's stupid to smoke.



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...and it's really disgusting when women do it. Who the fuck wants to kiss someone who smells like an ashtray? barf


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Reply #20 posted 08/19/09 3:19pm

amorbella

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Russian roulette (Russian: Русская рулетка Russkaya ruletka) is a lethal game of chance
Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize
u simply imagined this
So u lean over and give her a kiss
Here on earth, here on earth,
with u it's not so bad
Here on earth, here on earth
eye don't feel so sad
Stay right here
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Reply #21 posted 08/19/09 3:22pm

exenn

I don't smoke to remove myself from this earthly life. My intent is not to die, so the act of smoking is not suicide as far as I'm concerned. I would think that if you wanted to kill yourself, there would be much more time-efficient methods for getting the job done than smoking cigarettes.

But it's dangerous, for sure.
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Reply #22 posted 08/19/09 3:23pm

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Only to the person watching you smoke.
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Reply #23 posted 08/19/09 3:53pm

NDRU

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If it were then so would be eating McDonalds, not exercising, drinking too much, living in a polluted city, driving a car, skiing, sitting at my desk for too long, etc, etc.
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Reply #24 posted 08/19/09 3:54pm

NDRU

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I know smokers who also exercise or eat well. So doesn't one healthy act factor into the situation, or do we only count the unhealthy act?

That said, I think smoking is a very bad idea.
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Reply #25 posted 08/19/09 4:08pm

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Smoking probably wouldn't be so bad if the cigarettes didn't have all that other shit in them. Honestly, I look at the people I know who smoke cigarettes and the people who smoke weed, the people who smoke cigarettes seem to have an addiction, spend more money on their stash and are at higher risk for lung cancer. confused
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Reply #26 posted 08/19/09 4:25pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Smoking probably wouldn't be so bad if the cigarettes didn't have all that other shit in them. Honestly, I look at the people I know who smoke cigarettes and the people who smoke weed, the people who smoke cigarettes seem to have an addiction, spend more money on their stash and are at higher risk for lung cancer. confused


and a few cigarettes are not going to kill you, that's how people get started. But after a while most of us smoke more & more.

Additives or no, we're not meant to inhale smoke!

Though I agree there is something different about cigarettes. When I smoked weed I could go jogging immediately afterward, but not after smoking cigarettes.
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Reply #27 posted 08/19/09 4:49pm

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NDRU said:

If it were then so would be eating McDonalds, not exercising, drinking too much, living in a polluted city, driving a car, skiing, sitting at my desk for too long, etc, etc.


I'm committing suicide as we speak then neutral
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Reply #28 posted 08/19/09 5:05pm

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ZombieKitten said:

NDRU said:

If it were then so would be eating McDonalds, not exercising, drinking too much, living in a polluted city, driving a car, skiing, sitting at my desk for too long, etc, etc.


I'm committing suicide as we speak then neutral


might as well light up, then
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Reply #29 posted 08/19/09 5:05pm

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using that logic, then:

walking near a road is suicide.
eating anything you haven't grown or killed yourself is suicide.
exercise is suicide.
taking pharmaceuticals is suicide.


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