I am of the belief that sexuality is a spectrum, ranging from 100% homosexual to 100% heterosexual, with the rest falling somewhere in between.

Me and my gay friends have discussed this, and I would class my self as almost 100% homosexual, but I know some of them are more towards 70-80%, but dont class themselves as bisexual.

Sexuality is far to complex for fixed labels. So I dont think bisexuality is a myth, but I dont think the label fully explains the diverse types of sexuality which exist.
[Edited 6/23/09 6:17am]

Pochacco said:

Lock-jaw!

meow85 said:

When it comes to men, I agree. I bet every single flamer in here claimed bi-sexuality. I did

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Just cuz you were lying doesn't mean everybody is.

You sleep with gay men, so your experience of male bisexuality are guys who are fucking guys. They are more likely to be the 'transitional' pseudo-bis.

I know those guys exist. I married one of 'em. But I know that real bisexual men exist too, and it's insulting for you to say that they don't. It's no different than christian whackjobs insisting that YOUR sexuality isn't a real thing. Knock it off.

superspaceboy said:

we do

tackam said:

MacDaddy said:

oh lawd Jesus, your new avvie



Mien Lawd

superspaceboy said:

we do

At least ONE compares to you, darlin'.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Just cuz you were lying doesn't mean everybody is.

You sleep with gay men, so your experience of male bisexuality are guys who are fucking guys. They are more likely to be the 'transitional' pseudo-bis.

I know those guys exist. I married one of 'em. But I know that real bisexual men exist too, and it's insulting for you to say that they don't. It's no different than christian whackjobs insisting that YOUR sexuality isn't a real thing. Knock it off.

PurpleRighteous1 said:

I want everybody to GET that. When people claim that bisexuality isn't real, or that it's a choice, it is deeply fucking insulting to those of us who know you're wrong, because you're calling us liars! You're calling us liars, and you're denying part of who we are.

To which I just wanna say: shut your ignorant face.

Imago said:

I always think of bisexuality as a stop on the way to Gaytown.

I guess it all depends on how you define "bisexual". Are you talking in terms of which sex you're attracted to, which sex you have intercourse with, or which sex you have an intimate relationship with? I have only met one bisexual person (that I know of) that has intimate relationships with both sexes. All the others have had sexual relationships with both but only had the same sex as their mate. I do believe there are people that have loving, committed relationships with both but I feel they are the exception to the rule.

How about people are whatever they claim to be? I can't believe the money wasted to study this type of shit.

meow85 said:

But you're female, right?

I think it's interesting that -- even on the Org -- most are posting that they regard self-described male bisexuals with skepticism. I do, too, and have friends who probably would identify themselves as such.

Is it that -- in the same way gender roles are often different in society -- the perception of male sexuality is held by society to be less flexible? This isn't news, I know: Someone else has already touched upon the temporary experimenting college lesbians who find their ways back to dudes.

But is the meaning taken from that then that society as a whole makes it easier for such behavior in women but holds men to a much stricter classification of sexuality?

And, if true, would that be caused by a more fundamental (self-)identification as a patriarchal society?

CarrieMpls said:

Bi people frequently end up in opposite-sex relationships because it's SO MUCH EASIER. It's easier to get into them (because heterosexuals are so much more common than homosexuals, and because it's easier to hit on people with the presumption of straightness), and easier to be in them (because of the lack of bigotry).

Bi people also face a fair amount of pushback from other queers (eg. gay men think bi men are liars just as much as everybody else seems to, and lesbians often think bi girls are traitors or some such thing), so that it's easier to hang out with people who share your het half than your bi half.

I mostly date fellow bisexuals. I find that straight men can't grasp the reality of my faggotry (even if they think it's hot ), and lesbians think my fondness for dick is, to quote my ex-girlfriend, "gross". With bi folks, it's just not an issue.


And bisexual men absolutely exist. I've known (and dated) several of them. Most of them mostly date women, for the reasons mentioned above. They have a harder time of it being out than bisexual women do, I think. But they're among us.

SCNDLS said:

Then you'd be wrong.

Oh, and one thought on the study itself:

In my experience, bisexual people are more likely to be attracted to the unconventionally attractive. Ie. whatever the researchers were putting up as the potentially arousing material may not have been their thing (I, for one, can promise you that, if you put up images of what your average straight guy is supposed to find attractive, it would do nothing for me. . . but there are plenty of girls I'm hot for, I promise ). I don't know WHY, but that has been true of many of the bi folks I've known. Also, many people watch porn that isn't directly related to their real-life preferences. Alllsooo, I've known bi people to say that they're more sexually attracted to one gender, but more likely to fall in love with the other.

Point being, it ain't that simple. Give people a binary choice when it comes to sexuality and gender, and you will get fucked up results. For many of us, hot lies in the shades of gray.

Kthx.
[Edited 6/20/09 22:31pm]

tackam said:

I'm not calling you a liar. Just the boys you've been with

CarrieMpls said:

Bi people frequently end up in opposite-sex relationships because it's SO MUCH EASIER. It's easier to get into them (because heterosexuals are so much more common than homosexuals, and because it's easier to hit on people with the presumption of straightness), and easier to be in them (because of the lack of bigotry).

Bi people also face a fair amount of pushback from other queers (eg. gay men think bi men are liars just as much as everybody else seems to, and lesbians often think bi girls are traitors or some such thing), so that it's easier to hang out with people who share your het half than your bi half.

I mostly date fellow bisexuals. I find that straight men can't grasp the reality of my faggotry (even if they think it's hot ), and lesbians think my fondness for dick is, to quote my ex-girlfriend, "gross". With bi folks, it's just not an issue.


And bisexual men absolutely exist. I've known (and dated) several of them. Most of them mostly date women, for the reasons mentioned above. They have a harder time of it being out than bisexual women do, I think. But they're among us.

lazycrockett said:

EXACTLY!

Sluts, freaks, whores, ect...

I am of the belief that sexuality is a spectrum, ranging from 100% homosexual to 100% heterosexual, with the rest falling somewhere in between.

Me and my gay friends have discussed this, and I would class my self as almost 100% homosexual, but I know some of them are more towards 70-80%, but dont class themselves as bisexual.

Sexuality is far to complex for fixed labels. So I dont think bisexuality is a myth, but I dont think the label fully explains the diverse types of sexuality which exist.
[Edited 6/23/09 6:17am]

tackam said:

Every single "bi-sexual" guy I've been with were straight GAY! Remember, I'm prolific

tackam said:

Right on, again. I think I love you.

I wonder how my results in this study would have come out? I'm about as sex-positive as it gets, but I find porn boring and porn stars of both genders repulsive.

johnart said:

And that one is not she!

meow85 said:

I know, same here. Plus, a lot of it for me depends on the specific act, as far as what's hot. Making out? Same-sex of either gender is hot, opposite-sex is not. Oral on a guy? I'd rather watch a guy do it. Oral on a girl? Either is good. Fucking? I prefer to watch an opposite-sex couple. Role-play? Gay men pwn that shit. BDSM? Only interested in watching men top women. None of that has ANYthing to do with my real-life preferences. I would leave a team of researchers very, very confused.

tackam said:

I've watched a lot of real-life sexin' in my day. That wins over porn sex anytime, regardless of the act. As long as I find the participants at least nominally attractive, we're good to go. I think it's the enthusiasm in real-life that does it for me. So many porn stars look like they're mentally doing their grocery lists.

Also, I'm one of those freaks that thinks sex scenes in regular movies and TV are hotter. Don't ask me why. Though I am of the opinion legitimate actors should get into doing porn.

And of course this whole conversation almost entirely ignores the lie that is the gender binary, which completely changes everything. I mean, if I'm a male-leaning andro bio-female fucking a female-leaning andro bio-male, how the FUCK do they fit me into their little study?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I can't believe you don't see the error in your logic...