Imago said: The SHORT answer to your question is that I grew up relatively repressed, with a certain amount of self-shame and loathing to cause me to not be 100% comfortable with my sexuality in all it's forms (I don't even talk about my straight partners with my family), and this causes me to be promiscuous and on the downlow all the time. I'm fucked up.
For better or worse, this is the trait I relate to most. | |
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Cinnie said: Imago said: These are all gross stereotypes I have based only only 2 experiences, and both my bi-friends were/are very good looking. The guy 'Blake' from my facebook that Anxiety and Muse are always joking with would have been the 3rd 'bi', but I have reason to suspect he may just be straight. He told me he was bi, and was very explicit about his attraction towards Chris Cornnell, but in the 13 years I've known him, he slept with multiple girls and no men.
omg I Blake I wanted to add him just to oogle him He's very magnetic. It's funny I've never been charmed by his spell. You should come out to Amsterdam to meetup with us this winter. You can laugh your asses off at Tim and I recounting stories about how we used to go around the various Air Force bases in the region snapping photos of all the women he'd slept with. | |
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Cinnie said: Imago said: He's not typical. Although I've known 2 bis, I've known at least 5 or 6 guys who claimed to be 'bi', but I'm 100% sure they're really gay. I don't bother to challenge them as what you view yourself as is your business, and I find those types of gay men very charming. Actually, I find all gay men in general charming. Your like big nympho girls with no clue how to hold down relationships, generally--it's cute.
You agreed with my generalization on bi men but not on my generalization about gay men being complete nympho maniac sluts? | |
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Imago said: Cinnie said: You agreed with my generalization on bi men but not on my generalization about gay men being complete nympho maniac sluts? Sometimes the truth hurts | |
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Cinnie said: Imago said: You agreed with my generalization on bi men but not on my generalization about gay men being complete nympho maniac sluts? Sometimes the truth hurts And just because you now know Blake claimed to be 'bi' doesn't mean you can try and win him over like Herman and Anx have been doing. | |
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Imago said: Cinnie said: Sometimes the truth hurts And just because you now know Blake claimed to be 'bi' doesn't mean you can try and win him over like Herman and Anx have been doing. I haven't added Blake on Facebook, just to save myself from temptation and deliver me from evil. | |
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Cinnie said: Imago said: And just because you now know Blake claimed to be 'bi' doesn't mean you can try and win him over like Herman and Anx have been doing. I haven't added Blake on Facebook, just to save myself from temptation and deliver me from evil. Imagine knocking on his dorm door early one morning to find him wearing only boxers, his soft white skin glowing in the pale blue morning light with his grey blue eyes looking at you as if he's seeing through you as if to say... "Dude, not now. I'm about to have sex with some circus freak I brought home last night...." | |
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Imago said: Cinnie said: I haven't added Blake on Facebook, just to save myself from temptation and deliver me from evil. Imagine knocking on his dorm door early one morning to find him wearing only boxers, his soft white skin glowing in the pale blue morning light with his grey blue eyes looking at you as if he's seeing through you as if to say... "Dude, not now. I'm about to have sex with some circus freak I brought home last night...." Even the circus freak part gave me a chubby | |
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Imago said: Cinnie said: I haven't added Blake on Facebook, just to save myself from temptation and deliver me from evil. Imagine knocking on his dorm door early one morning to find him wearing only boxers, his soft white skin glowing in the pale blue morning light with his grey blue eyes looking at you as if he's seeing through you as if to say... "Dude, not now. I'm about to have sex with some circus freak I brought home last night...." ok red shoe diarys! thats enough!...until you fill me in on who yall talkin bout | |
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There is such thing as bisexual....that means you like both...it means gay too....you like both sexes. If people wan to be called bi..good for them. unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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Christopher said: Imago said: Imagine knocking on his dorm door early one morning to find him wearing only boxers, his soft white skin glowing in the pale blue morning light with his grey blue eyes looking at you as if he's seeing through you as if to say... "Dude, not now. I'm about to have sex with some circus freak I brought home last night...." ok red shoe diarys! thats enough!...until you fill me in on who yall talkin bout Here he is in my door room. This was 1993. The battlestar galactica outfit was not what he usual wore. We played dressup that day and invaded the Officer's club for "country Music" night BTW, this is a very unflattering picture of him. He's actually quite handsome. | |
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Depends, all peeps are different and have their reasons so to each their own. One of my bi friends once said some days he feels like eating fish and other days like having a hot dog. | |
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Interesting read.
I do not have the scientific knowledge to either confirm or debunk the statements that were made in the article. But what interests me the most is why do most people always feel the need to label someone. I personally think that if we are not able to immediately know where to place someone, that person scares us. Because then it becomes unknown territory. And that might become confronting in a way, or expose an aspect of our sexuality/personality we don’t want to see uncovered. I would say that I’m definitely a gay guy although I do not have the stereotypical mannerisms that many people think are part of being gay. But fuck that, I’m proud of who I am and VERY comfortable with my sexuality. I have had sex with men who claim to be bi, some of them really were some of them might not have been. I’ve had sex with straight men, those were very close friends of mine so I know that they really are ‘straight’ or as straight as can be as perceived by the masses. They would for instance never fall in love with a guy or have a relationship, or whathaveyou… the fact that they have had sex with a guy did not make them a lesser MAN (in their own view) they were curious and pleased with the experience. There was nothing more to it. Anyhow: a person’s sexuality or sexuality in general is very complex and consists of many different layers. You yourself know best what to do or what not to do with it. Ta | |
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MacDaddy said: Interesting read.
I do not have the scientific knowledge to either confirm or debunk the statements that were made in the article. But what interests me the most is why do most people always feel the need to label someone. I personally think that if we are not able to immediately know where to place someone, that person scares us. Because then it becomes unknown territory. And that might become confronting in a way, or expose an aspect of our sexuality/personality we don’t want to see uncovered. I would say that I’m definitely a gay guy although I do not have the stereotypical mannerisms that many people think are part of being gay. But fuck that, I’m proud of who I am and VERY comfortable with my sexuality. I have had sex with men who claim to be bi, some of them really were some of them might not have been. I’ve had sex with straight men, those were very close friends of mine so I know that they really are ‘straight’ or as straight as can be as perceived by the masses. They would for instance never fall in love with a guy or have a relationship, or whathaveyou… the fact that they have had sex with a guy did not make them a lesser MAN (in their own view) they were curious and pleased with the experience. There was nothing more to it. Anyhow: a person’s sexuality or sexuality in general is very complex and consists of many different layers. You yourself know best what to do or what not to do with it. Ta 100% agreed. | |
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The term "bi" also gets you laid. (with other men)
It's like some exciting token dudes throw around when lookin for casual male tricks. It' somehow "ups" their desirablility. Don't believe me? Look around Craigslist sometime. There's prolly more folk looking for "straights" "bi's" "military" "married" dudes in there than anything else. IMO went it's all said and done and the dick is swangin in front of your face, the dudes looking really don't care what the actual bottom line is. It fulfills a fantasy to think (or be told) the other dude is bi or straight, or something "unnatainable" that makes it risky and secret. Sets a mood. | |
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johnart said: The term "bi" also gets you laid. (with other men)
It's like some exciting token dudes throw around when lookin for casual male tricks. It' somehow "ups" their desirablility. Don't believe me? Look around Craigslist sometime. There's prolly more folk looking for "straights" "bi's" "military" "married" dudes in there than anything else. IMO went it's all said and done and the dick is swangin in front of your face, the dudes looking really don't care what the actual bottom line is. It fulfills a fantasy to think (or be told) the other dude is bi or straight, or something "unnatainable" that makes it risky and secret. Sets a mood. Half the time "we're" are own worse enemy. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. | |
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johnart said: The term "bi" also gets you laid. (with other men)
It's like some exciting token dudes throw around when lookin for casual male tricks. It' somehow "ups" their desirablility. Don't believe me? Look around Craigslist sometime. There's prolly more folk looking for "straights" "bi's" "military" "married" dudes in there than anything else. IMO went it's all said and done and the dick is swangin in front of your face, the dudes looking really don't care what the actual bottom line is. It fulfills a fantasy to think (or be told) the other dude is bi or straight, or something "unnatainable" that makes it risky and secret. Sets a mood. It feels less like a sexual fantasy to me and more like self-loathing. A lot of gay men I've known like me because I have masculine traits, and they are drawn to that. But they themselves are mostly feminine. It seems really weird that a feminine man is repulse by feminine men. It seems self-loathing. But I see it all the time. | |
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Imago said: johnart said: The term "bi" also gets you laid. (with other men)
It's like some exciting token dudes throw around when lookin for casual male tricks. It' somehow "ups" their desirablility. Don't believe me? Look around Craigslist sometime. There's prolly more folk looking for "straights" "bi's" "military" "married" dudes in there than anything else. IMO went it's all said and done and the dick is swangin in front of your face, the dudes looking really don't care what the actual bottom line is. It fulfills a fantasy to think (or be told) the other dude is bi or straight, or something "unnatainable" that makes it risky and secret. Sets a mood. It feels less like a sexual fantasy to me and more like self-loathing. A lot of gay men I've known like me because I have masculine traits, and they are drawn to that. But they themselves are mostly feminine. It seems really weird that a feminine man is repulse by feminine men. It seems self-loathing. But I see it all the time. But for a lot of guys it IS a sexual fantasy and has nothing to do with self-loathing. I have no reason whatsoever to loath myself, never had issues with being gay and I intend never to have any. I can see why sometimes it does appeal to have sex with a bi, or straight guy, purely because of a fantasy, whatever the reason behind it. And I've been there, enjoyed it, that's it. But what works for me is a guy confident about his sexuality, whether he's straight, bi or gay and doesn't give a rat's arse what other people think about it....feminine or masculine. That's what's attractive (for me at-least) and I have noticed that those guys often also find themselves attracted to me. | |
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MacDaddy said: Imago said: It feels less like a sexual fantasy to me and more like self-loathing. A lot of gay men I've known like me because I have masculine traits, and they are drawn to that. But they themselves are mostly feminine. It seems really weird that a feminine man is repulse by feminine men. It seems self-loathing. But I see it all the time. But for a lot of guys it IS a sexual fantasy and has nothing to do with self-loathing. I have no reason whatsoever to loath myself, never had issues with being gay and I intend never to have any. I can see why sometimes it does appeal to have sex with a bi, or straight guy, purely because of a fantasy, whatever the reason behind it. And I've been there, enjoyed it, that's it. But what works for me is a guy confident about his sexuality, whether he's straight, bi or gay and doesn't give a rat's arse what other people think about it....feminine or masculine. That's what's attractive (for me at-least) and I have noticed that those guys often also find themselves attracted to me. I find it very interesting that you've slept with straight guys that you agree were straight. I'm curious to know, in your opinion, when would you stop viewing these "straight" dudes as straight? | |
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meow85 said: I'm calling bullshit.
When it comes to men, I agree. I bet every single flamer in here claimed bi-sexuality. I did 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Imago said: Also, has anyone every met a masculine gay man?
I've met men who 'acted' masculine. That is no lisp, no limp wrist, walked like an ape, etc. etc. But they were playing a part. Get them behind closed doors, and ...voila! Paul Lynnd Yes, my first boyfriend, an ex cop. And he was never Paul Lynde behind closed doors . | |
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SilverlakePhil said: Imago said: Also, has anyone every met a masculine gay man?
I've met men who 'acted' masculine. That is no lisp, no limp wrist, walked like an ape, etc. etc. But they were playing a part. Get them behind closed doors, and ...voila! Paul Lynnd Yes, my first boyfriend, an ex cop. And he was never Paul Lynde behind closed doors . | |
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Imago said: I agree the vast majority of bis are really gay.
Almost every guy I've been with claimed to be bi, but was gay. I've known 2 other true bi's, and one of them I've never seen fool around with another guy, while the other came on to me---I'm not attracted to bi guys for some reason. I've always had a sneaking suspicion in me that a lot of gay men are curious about women though, and just won't admit it. So I may be way off base. This thread isn't just about you. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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Imago said: tackam said: I'll tell you, there is something extremely peculiar about identifying as queer, walking around with a man I'm dating who also identifies as bi or queer, and being universally perceived as straight people.
I've been in serious relationships with five guys. All have been presumed to be straight while they were with me. Two actually identified that way, and one of those wasn't SO straight that I didn't watch him suck cock a couple of times. :p Assumptions, assumptions. . . I agree with everything you've posted so far on this thread. It's just much easier with a girl, on many levels, and the sex is easier to workout too I have no clue where gay men get off on saying they know how to please another man better than women, cause women are pretty damned good at it. Gay men get off on saying they perform oral sex better than women. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: Imago said: I agree with everything you've posted so far on this thread. It's just much easier with a girl, on many levels, and the sex is easier to workout too I have no clue where gay men get off on saying they know how to please another man better than women, cause women are pretty damned good at it. Gay men get off on saying they perform oral sex better than women. we do 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: superspaceboy said: Gay men get off on saying they perform oral sex better than women. we do Preach it brotha | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: superspaceboy said: Gay men get off on saying they perform oral sex better than women. we do Anyway, how can something be a myth if it's practiced? Probably not a popular answer...but I think bisexuality is probably just a lifestyle choice....my opinion is based on studies I've seen or read. But not being bi I wouldn't really know, now would I? | |
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JustErin said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: we do Anyway, how can something be a myth if it's practiced? Probably not a popular answer...but I think bisexuality is probably just a lifestyle choice....my opinion is based on studies I've seen or read. But not being bi I wouldn't really know, now would I? Guys might like having you down there but that don't mean you're doing a good job! Since you can deep throat champagne, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but generally, women don't hold a candle! [Edited 6/22/09 12:35pm] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: superspaceboy said: Gay men get off on saying they perform oral sex better than women. we do bullshit. I've had some guys down there who didn't know what the hell they were doing. Gay's aren't given some special gene that makes them a hoover. It's like kissing you have to either learn or be taught how to. N just to tangent a bit shoving your tongue down my throat n trying to eat my mouth ISNT kissing. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. | |
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