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Thread started 10/19/10 7:26pm

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Why is "For You" out of Print?

"For You" is no longer offered in the iTunes US music store, nor amazon downloads, and on Rhapsody it is there but you cant buy it. Is it out of print? and why? I noticed it is still available in European digital stores.

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Reply #1 posted 10/19/10 7:33pm

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PimpandCircumstance said:

"For You" is no longer offered in the iTunes US music store, nor amazon downloads, and on Rhapsody it is there but you cant buy it. Is it out of print? and why? I noticed it is still available in European digital stores.

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Actually at Rhapsody you can download it the price is $0.00 per song

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Reply #2 posted 10/19/10 7:34pm

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PimpandCircumstance said:

PimpandCircumstance said:

"For You" is no longer offered in the iTunes US music store, nor amazon downloads, and on Rhapsody it is there but you cant buy it. Is it out of print? and why? I noticed it is still available in European digital stores.

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Actually at Rhapsody you can download it the price is $0.00 per song

Thats cheap!

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Reply #3 posted 10/19/10 7:36pm

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mostbeautifulboy said:

PimpandCircumstance said:

Actually at Rhapsody you can download it the price is $0.00 per song

Thats cheap!

So does anybody know why it is not available in any US stores? Anytime a P album becomes unavailable it depresses me.

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Reply #4 posted 10/19/10 7:56pm

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PimpandCircumstance said:

So does anybody know why it is not available in any US stores? Anytime a P album becomes unavailable it depresses me.

I know of at least one band here in Australia who deleted (possibly wrong terminology) albums they planned to re-release shortly afterwards, as it gave time for those CDs to clear the shelves - ie. no point having CD "X" and CD "X-remastered" on sale at the same time.

Yes, it's a long shot and I'm forever optimistic, but I wouldn't necessarily see WB pulling Prince's first CD out of circulation right now as a negative...

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Reply #5 posted 10/19/10 7:57pm

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PimpandCircumstance said:

mostbeautifulboy said:

Thats cheap!

So does anybody know why it is not available in any US stores? Anytime a P album becomes unavailable it depresses me.

Same here

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Reply #6 posted 10/19/10 8:09pm

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Chiquetet said:

PimpandCircumstance said:

So does anybody know why it is not available in any US stores? Anytime a P album becomes unavailable it depresses me.

I know of at least one band here in Australia who deleted (possibly wrong terminology) albums they planned to re-release shortly afterwards, as it gave time for those CDs to clear the shelves - ie. no point having CD "X" and CD "X-remastered" on sale at the same time.

Yes, it's a long shot and I'm forever optimistic, but I wouldn't necessarily see WB pulling Prince's first CD out of circulation right now as a negative...

But if that is the case why is it still available overseas....the same thing is true with the Love Symbol album. It was taken out of the US stores last year but is available in other countries.

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Reply #7 posted 10/19/10 8:39pm

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PimpandCircumstance said:

But if that is the case why is it still available overseas....the same thing is true with the Love Symbol album. It was taken out of the US stores last year but is available in other countries.

Oh. Well, in that case, I got nothin', sorry sad

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Reply #8 posted 10/19/10 8:42pm

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Chiquetet said:

PimpandCircumstance said:

So does anybody know why it is not available in any US stores? Anytime a P album becomes unavailable it depresses me.

I know of at least one band here in Australia who deleted (possibly wrong terminology) albums they planned to re-release shortly afterwards, as it gave time for those CDs to clear the shelves - ie. no point having CD "X" and CD "X-remastered" on sale at the same time.

Yes, it's a long shot and I'm forever optimistic, but I wouldn't necessarily see WB pulling Prince's first CD out of circulation right now as a negative...

The US pressings go out of print every few years. The shelves are empty for a while and import stock is brought in if there is enough demand. Eventually the CDs are re-pressed and distributed, but there is a lag time for retailers. This is the case for all regular Warner Bros CDs that haven't been taken permanently OOP.

Anyone looking to buy Prince's back catalog at this time should just get a good used copy, wait a while, or a find NOS of one of those beautifully packaged Japanese SHM discs.

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Reply #9 posted 10/19/10 8:42pm

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ecstasy said:

PimpandCircumstance said:

So does anybody know why it is not available in any US stores? Anytime a P album becomes unavailable it depresses me.

Same here

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Figure of speech, yes? I mean, it doens't actually send you spiraling into an actual clinical depression...does it?


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Reply #10 posted 10/19/10 9:42pm

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because all of the copies have been sold out and WB does not think it is worth it to repress more.

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Reply #11 posted 10/19/10 10:47pm

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Warner Brothers won't own the rights to that album for much longer so it probably isn't worth it for them to press up some new copies. It isn't exactly the strongest seller in his catalogue either making it even less attractive for them to repress it for the very short amount of time that they will still have the rights to it.

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Reply #12 posted 10/19/10 11:57pm

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gamera said:

Warner Brothers won't own the rights to that album for much longer so it probably isn't worth it for them to press up some new copies. It isn't exactly the strongest seller in his catalogue either making it even less attractive for them to repress it for the very short amount of time that they will still have the rights to it.

That makes some sense of course, but I doubt that it is permanently OOP on the WB imprint. Pandemonium, Sheila E's S/T and Romance 1600 earned a repress, but those numbers have to be even less than For You.

Prince gets the For You rights back in 2013, but he isn't exactly keeping his post WB catalog in print. In fact, most of his NPG works were only pressed once, some in larger quantities at the start - and then they were forgotten by him.

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Reply #13 posted 10/20/10 5:24am

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Still, it's strange that it was removed from US iTunes, no? (I'm such an optimist... I feel like Charlie Brown vs. Lucy's football razz)

For the record, iTunes Canada still shows it as available.

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Reply #14 posted 10/20/10 8:24am

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PimpandCircumstance said:

"For You" is no longer offered in the iTunes US music store, nor amazon downloads, and on Rhapsody it is there but you cant buy it. Is it out of print? and why? I noticed it is still available in European digital stores.

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Like someone said above, just buy a used copy from Amazon or a local used CD store smile

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Reply #15 posted 10/20/10 8:38am

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squirrelgrease said:

gamera said:

Warner Brothers won't own the rights to that album for much longer so it probably isn't worth it for them to press up some new copies. It isn't exactly the strongest seller in his catalogue either making it even less attractive for them to repress it for the very short amount of time that they will still have the rights to it.

That makes some sense of course, but I doubt that it is permanently OOP on the WB imprint. Pandemonium, Sheila E's S/T and Romance 1600 earned a repress, but those numbers have to be even less than For You.

Prince gets the For You rights back in 2013, but he isn't exactly keeping his post WB catalog in print. In fact, most of his NPG works were only pressed once, some in larger quantities at the start - and then they were forgotten by him.

Indeed. Not really a point in owning the copyright when you are not going to do anything with it. I doubt WB not showing much love for For You has anything to do with any rights returning to Prince tho'. Here in holland the Prince bin gets more empty every year. In the record store it looks like has a catalogue of about 5 albums now, when it is actually about 35. There may still be a copy of lotusflower, musicology or planet earth there, but for the rest it's the old stuff like PR, SOTT, Parade, Lovesexy.

Apparantly they still find it worthwhile to reprint those every now and then.

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Reply #16 posted 10/20/10 8:48am

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I hope prince and his music doesnt fade away from the future generations minds, it would be a pity

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Reply #17 posted 10/20/10 10:53am

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I have a feeling there will be a heavy demand when he meets his maker...hopefully no time soon though.
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Reply #18 posted 10/20/10 11:59am

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PimpandCircumstance said:

But if that is the case why is it still available overseas....the same thing is true with the Love Symbol album. It was taken out of the US stores last year but is available in other countries.

Japan has many albums that are out of print elsewhere on CD, especially US soul and funk acts that are ignored by American record companies. Many such albums have never been on CD in the US and can only be found in used record stores, or for expensive prices on the internet, if they can be found at all. Some current groups like Swing Out Sister almost exclusively release their albums in Japan.

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Reply #19 posted 10/20/10 1:48pm

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The physical copy goes in and out of print every few months or so at amazon.com. For a little extra coin, the import from Japan is still available.

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Reply #20 posted 10/20/10 2:31pm

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PimpandCircumstance said:

"For You" is no longer offered in the iTunes US music store, nor amazon downloads, and on Rhapsody it is there but you cant buy it. Is it out of print? and why? I noticed it is still available in European digital stores.

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i bought the physical copy from amazon like a yr ago...biggrin

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Reply #21 posted 10/20/10 4:36pm

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Are all the WB albums still in print save TGE and TBA?

Is there ANY post-WB album that IS still in print?

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Reply #22 posted 10/20/10 4:51pm

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Are all the WB albums still in print save TGE and TBA?

Is there ANY post-WB album that IS still in print?

tge is appearently out of print but you can try and order on amazon.com

Emancipation, crystall ball, rave un 2 are all available on amazon

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Reply #23 posted 10/20/10 4:57pm

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hhhhdmt said:

databank said:

Are all the WB albums still in print save TGE and TBA?

Is there ANY post-WB album that IS still in print?

tge is appearently out of print but you can try and order on amazon.com

Emancipation, crystall ball, rave un 2 are all available on amazon

eek Really??? Brand new copies??? eek

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Reply #24 posted 10/20/10 5:18pm

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databank said:

hhhhdmt said:

tge is appearently out of print but you can try and order on amazon.com

Emancipation, crystall ball, rave un 2 are all available on amazon

eek Really??? Brand new copies??? eek

yes i believe there are some new copies of emancipation on amazon but i am not 100 percent sure

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This is amazing because both EMI and BMG lost interest in Emancipation and Rave so early after their respective releases. And as for Crystal Ball, it was manufactured by Prince himself and only distributed by BMG if i'm not mistaken, and it's hard to believe that Prince would have kept this album in particular in print eek

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databank said:

This is amazing because both EMI and BMG lost interest in Emancipation and Rave so early after their respective releases. And as for Crystal Ball, it was manufactured by Prince himself and only distributed by BMG if i'm not mistaken, and it's hard to believe that Prince would have kept this album in particular in print eek

If there are any copies of Crystal Ball(retail), Emancipation(both versions), and Rave Un2 out there still sealed and legitimately un-circulated, they would be new-old-stock and not from a re-pressing. Best Buy sold sealed versions of both the petri-dish and jewel-case Crystal Ball in their stores. Amazon Marketplace dealers can sometimes have NOS, but are most often full of BS.

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Reply #27 posted 10/21/10 5:19pm

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And they complain about filesharing...

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Reply #28 posted 10/22/10 5:33am

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And they complain about filesharing...

Right. Their defense to that is that their property is stolen anyhow, so why would they still have to make costs and effort to make it available?

It's a circular argument. They hardly offer their music on the net either. How are people gonna get their hands on it legally then?

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Reply #29 posted 10/22/10 6:40am

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yes, I am lucky I bought all Prince official albums in the mid 90s, but today I cant find them in Brasil (or find imports for a very expensive price).

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