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Thread started 08/09/10 4:41pm

yeahthatsthe1

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"You dont have to make the mistakes I did"

At least that's what I think Prince said, (something like that) At the BET awards. Anyways my question is what mistakes?. . . bikini underwear? lol What do you all think he meant?

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Reply #1 posted 08/09/10 4:53pm

NouveauDance

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Yeah, I think he was talking about being lascivious on stage (in reference to preggo Alicia Keys getting up on the piano).

He should've kept his trap shut on that one.

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Reply #2 posted 08/09/10 4:54pm

motherfunka

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Signing over the rights to his masters.

TRUE BLUE
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Reply #3 posted 08/09/10 5:00pm

Timmy84

His sexual stuff is what he meant I believe.

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Reply #4 posted 08/09/10 5:01pm

Onthereal

I took it as signing over his masters and being as obscene as he was on stage (and offstage). Might be why those close to him can't reveal much about him.
A good lamp is the best police. *Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Reply #5 posted 08/09/10 5:11pm

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I personally don't think Prince views his sexual past as a mistake, AT ALL.

More so I believe he was referring to having to make compromises to the record label.

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Reply #6 posted 08/09/10 5:15pm

Timmy84

Militant said:

I personally don't think Prince views his sexual past as a mistake, AT ALL.

More so I believe he was referring to having to make compromises to the record label.

Then why did he give Alicia the eyebrow when she did what she did? lol Other than the fact that she was pregnant writhing lol

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Reply #7 posted 08/09/10 5:16pm

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I'm pretty sure he was talking about the years of being fisted and how it took a toll on his rectum. At least that's what I read into his statement.

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Reply #8 posted 08/09/10 5:18pm

etifaim

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Militant said:

I personally don't think Prince views his sexual past as a mistake, AT ALL.

More so I believe he was referring to having to make compromises to the record label.

That's what I was thinking too, but then again, he's a JW so he probably views all of his sinful days "in the world" as mistakes...which is asinine because he wouldn't have become the legend he is today.

"For those who know the number and don't call...Fuck all y'all"
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Reply #9 posted 08/09/10 5:19pm

etifaim

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Timmy84 said:

Militant said:

I personally don't think Prince views his sexual past as a mistake, AT ALL.

More so I believe he was referring to having to make compromises to the record label.

Then why did he give Alicia the eyebrow when she did what she did? lol Other than the fact that she was pregnant writhing lol

LOL I really think it was just the fact that she was pregnant that she received the "Oh no you didn't" face.

"For those who know the number and don't call...Fuck all y'all"
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Reply #10 posted 08/09/10 5:20pm

Timmy84

etifaim said:

Timmy84 said:

Then why did he give Alicia the eyebrow when she did what she did? lol Other than the fact that she was pregnant writhing lol

LOL I really think it was just the fact that she was pregnant that she received the "Oh no you didn't" face.

It was probably a combination of both. lol Especially the fact that she's with baby. lol

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Reply #11 posted 08/09/10 6:11pm

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I think he thought Alicia getting up on the piano was camp and kinda cute, I think he enjoyed it. She's pregnant, it's not like she was up there trying to show her ass, she was just channeling him, something he'd done in the past. I don't think he had issue with it at all.

I think the "mistakes" he was referring to were his image back in the day, especially now that he's all JW and I've read in many recent interviews he doesn't wish to talk about his past persona... not to mention the fact that he doesn't sing the old songs anymore, the ones that refer to sex and have sexual themes.

In addition I also feel he was talking about the drama with WB. Hindsight is always 20/20. Maybe at the time he thought he was doing the right thing, but perhaps looking back on his antics then and the bridges he burned maybe he feels that he could have gone about things differently.

None of us will ever really know specifically WHAT he was refering to with that "mistakes" speech at the BET awards, but we all have moments in our lives that we regeret, things we said and/or did in the heat of the moment and wish we could take back. Why should P be any different.

Prince esta muerto...
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Reply #12 posted 08/09/10 7:11pm

Militant

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jaybendy said:

not to mention the fact that he doesn't sing the old songs anymore, the ones that refer to sex and have sexual themes.

Yes he does. He just doesn't sing the lyrics that he considers to be overly vulgar.

The sex is still very much there in Prince's songwriting, it's just more subtle now.

Let's not forget that just last year on Bria's record there was a track where the lyrics refer to female masturbation in the shower using the shower-head.

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Reply #13 posted 08/09/10 7:34pm

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Militant said:

jaybendy said:

not to mention the fact that he doesn't sing the old songs anymore, the ones that refer to sex and have sexual themes.

Yes he does. He just doesn't sing the lyrics that he considers to be overly vulgar.

The sex is still very much there in Prince's songwriting, it's just more subtle now.

Let's not forget that just last year on Bria's record there was a track where the lyrics refer to female masturbation in the shower using the shower-head.

He wrote it.. but he didn't sing it.

But yeah, I see what you mean but you get what I mean too.. he can't NOT sing those songs, it's what we all wanna hear when we see him live, but like you said, he's running around changing the lyrics and what not.. his new spirituality would be compromised if he didn't. Like you said it's the vulgar-ness (is that a word?) that's no longer there. I mean sex is still gon be sex, he's just finding more... um... creative ways to talk about it.

I am still sad abt him feeling like he's above all that now. But then again what's he suppoed to do? He's 52. He can't run around the stage and hump the floor like he used to. Honestly some of the lyrics he's written would just be odd coming from his mouth after all this JW stuff he's been touting as of late. Guess it's better than him being a hypocrite about it. **shrug**

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Reply #14 posted 08/09/10 7:41pm

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yeahthatsthe1 said:

At least that's what I think Prince said, (something like that) At the BET awards. Anyways my question is what mistakes?. . . bikini underwear? lol What do you all think he meant?

He meant live in sin the way he did- curse in songs, perform lustful acts, ect

"Not to sound cosmic, but I've made plans for the next 3,000 years," he says. "Before, it was only three days at a time."
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Reply #15 posted 08/09/10 8:06pm

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maybe its just something a mentor says to his 'students', or a father to his 'children', like an obligatory cliche.

this too shall pass
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Reply #16 posted 08/09/10 10:24pm

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jaybendy said:

None of us will ever really know specifically WHAT he was refering to with that "mistakes" speech at the BET awards, but we all have moments in our lives that we regeret, things we said and/or did in the heat of the moment and wish we could take back. Why should P be any different.

THIS...

It could be anything, like something more broad&personal as a human being and an artist, not just limited to something directly related to his career. Could be whatever he thinks he did wrong or shoulda done differently. I'm not at that stage of my life, but I can imagine he's been looking back on the past like that more often now that he's in his 50s.

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Reply #17 posted 08/10/10 12:29am

NouveauDance

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squirrelgrease said:

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the years of being fisted and how it took a toll on his rectum. At least that's what I read into his statement.

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Reply #18 posted 08/10/10 12:34am

Reel

NouveauDance said:

Yeah, I think he was talking about being lascivious on stage (in reference to preggo Alicia Keys getting up on the piano).

He should've kept his trap shut on that one.

I agree, that's what I believe he was referring to. However, I have no problem with him trying to point the "youngins" in the right direction.

Although I'm your biggest fan...I'm also your biggest critic. Can you deal with that?
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Reply #19 posted 08/10/10 12:43am

Reel

jaybendy said:

I think he thought Alicia getting up on the piano was camp and kinda cute, I think he enjoyed it. She's pregnant, it's not like she was up there trying to show her ass, she was just channeling him, something he'd done in the past. I don't think he had issue with it at all.

I think the "mistakes" he was referring to were his image back in the day, especially now that he's all JW and I've read in many recent interviews he doesn't wish to talk about his past persona... not to mention the fact that he doesn't sing the old songs anymore, the ones that refer to sex and have sexual themes.

In addition I also feel he was talking about the drama with WB. Hindsight is always 20/20. Maybe at the time he thought he was doing the right thing, but perhaps looking back on his antics then and the bridges he burned maybe he feels that he could have gone about things differently.

None of us will ever really know specifically WHAT he was refering to with that "mistakes" speech at the BET awards, but we all have moments in our lives that we regeret, things we said and/or did in the heat of the moment and wish we could take back. Why should P be any different.

He might not sing the old sexual songs, but the new ones that he sings are just as sexual but in a subtle way. Ie:

Lolita

Working up a Black Sweat. Hummm what kinda sweat Prince?

Although I'm your biggest fan...I'm also your biggest critic. Can you deal with that?
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Reply #20 posted 08/10/10 12:47am

NouveauDance

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Reel said:

I have no problem with him trying to point the "youngins" in the right direction.

Well, it's only his opinion in hindsight that it's the wrong direction. You could just as easily argue that signing up to a nutty doomsday cult is also the wrong direction, but I doubt Alicia wanted to point that out to a living legend on stage.

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Reply #21 posted 08/10/10 1:28am

Reel

NouveauDance said:

Reel said:

I have no problem with him trying to point the "youngins" in the right direction.

Well, it's only his opinion in hindsight that it's the wrong direction. You could just as easily argue that signing up to a nutty doomsday cult is also the wrong direction, but I doubt Alicia wanted to point that out to a living legend on stage.

JW's are not a doomsday cult. They are just firm in their beliefs and kinda only see things in black and white. I should know...my grandmother studied with them for 40 years, and then she was baptized and became one and stayed that way until she became senile, and then "we" did the ole switcherooo on her because she didnt know what she was at that point. But my point being, is that they are not the terrible organization that folks paint them out to be.

Some things about them are bothersome, ie...peer pressure within the organization, as well as reports of families not talking to other family members who leave the church or who are excommunicated. But in general, it's not as bad as people think.

Although I'm your biggest fan...I'm also your biggest critic. Can you deal with that?
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Reply #22 posted 08/10/10 2:44am

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Whether it's what he meant or not he's already said he egrets his past persona
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Reply #23 posted 08/10/10 2:59am

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Reply #24 posted 08/10/10 3:47am

NouveauDance

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Reel said:

JW's are not a doomsday cult.

Well, that's splitting hairs. I guess any sect of Christianity is a doomsday cult, since it's founded on the notion an ancient magical superhero will fly back to Earth and destroy all in his path in an epic apocalytic battle of good and evil. That one sect calls it this and one sect calls it that is neither here nor there - either way, I dunno if I'd take council from a megalomaniac who gleefully awaits this mythical destruction of the planet.

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Reply #25 posted 08/10/10 4:09am

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NouveauDance said:

Reel said:

JW's are not a doomsday cult.

Well, that's splitting hairs. I guess any sect of Christianity is a doomsday cult, since it's founded on the notion an ancient magical superhero will fly back to Earth and destroy all in his path in an epic apocalytic battle of good and evil. That one sect calls it this and one sect calls it that is neither here nor there - either way, I dunno if I'd take council from a megalomaniac who gleefully awaits this mythical destruction of the planet.

You know, really? If you really wanna talk about religion, go to the Politics and Religion section, some people really take offense to that...

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Reply #26 posted 08/10/10 4:12am

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NouveauDance said:

Reel said:

I have no problem with him trying to point the "youngins" in the right direction.

Well, it's only his opinion in hindsight that it's the wrong direction. You could just as easily argue that signing up to a nutty doomsday cult is also the wrong direction, but I doubt Alicia wanted to point that out to a living legend on stage.

At the end of the day, they are all nutty cults. Try explaining any religion to a non-believer and good luck having it make sense. Don't be so naive.

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Reply #27 posted 08/10/10 5:01am

NouveauDance

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smoothcriminal12 said:

You know, really? If you really wanna talk about religion, go to the Politics and Religion section

This type of stuff gets discussed ALL the time in this forum in relation to Prince, you just chime in now? shrug

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Reply #28 posted 08/10/10 5:07am

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NouveauDance said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

You know, really? If you really wanna talk about religion, go to the Politics and Religion section

This type of stuff gets discussed ALL the time in this forum in relation to Prince, you just chime in now? shrug

Yes. Yes I do.

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Reply #29 posted 08/10/10 6:03am

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smoothcriminal12 said:

NouveauDance said:

This type of stuff gets discussed ALL the time in this forum in relation to Prince, you just chime in now? shrug

Yes. Yes I do.

What-ever.

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